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THE OSHAWA DAILY TIMES, WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 9, 1931 PAGE Women's Interests in the Home aad the Ccmm unity Mundy. Phone 812. Mr. and Mrs. Harvey Simpson, of Chatham, who have been the uests of Mrs. Simpson's mother, Mrs. E. L. Vickery, King Street Cast, left this morning for their home. LJ LJ . The Ladies' /Branch of the Lawn Bowling Club held its sec- ond bridge and dance of the win- ter season in Welsh"s Parlours on Monday of this week. Twenty- tive tables were played, and a prize was given 'to the holder of the highest score at each table. Daneing was enjoyed after tne bridge games. WOMEN'S MEETINGS HELPING HAND CLASS Twenty-five members of the Helping Hand Class of Simcoe Street United Church had dinner last evening at the Grand Cafe and afterwards Miss Leah Smith presided over the election of. of- ficers for 1932, Mrs. E. Bateman was re-elected president, Mrs. Norman Hoag was elected vice- president, Mrs. N. Clarke, secre- tary, Miss Verna Trewin, treasur- oer, Mrs. Alex Fisher, convenor of the socil committee and Miss Wilma Gordon, convenor of the bazaar committee. Mrs. T, Adair, | teacher of the class occupied a | place of honor at the table with | the president, Mrs. Bateman, Mrs. Adajr~extended an invitation to all class members to her home | on Tuesday evening of next week. MARY STREET HOME AND SCHOOL CLUB The corridors of Mary Street School took on a very gay ap- pearance on Monday evening when teachers and parents of the Home and School! Club worked to maké the annual club bazaar a success. Along with the sale of work, refreshments were serv- ed snd a programme presented | when Misses Mildred Gerrard and | Dorie Dundle played a piano duet, Mrs. Cameron sang a solo and Miss June Luke gave a reading | and played a piano solo. Two dolls were raffled, the first, do- nated by Mrs. Bowden was won by Mrs, Gibbs of Colborne Street, and the cecond, donated by Mrs. Hicks was won by Mrs. Smith, of Wood Street, Mr. Martin won the raffle of a centre plece that had been donated by Mrs. George Allchin, The proceeds of the ev- ening amounted to over $40.00. SIMCOE STREET CHURCH LADIES' AID SOCIETY Mrs. Albert Wilson was elect- ed to the presidency of the Sim- coe Street United Church Ladies' Aid Society at a meeting yester- day afternoon. She succeeds Mrs. F. Bradley who has held the posi- tion for the past two years. Mrs. L. J. Moody was elected 1st vice and Mrs. E. Bradley 2nd vice. Mrs. Smale is the new recording secretary and Mrs, Charlie Wal- lace the treasurer. All these names were suggested by the nominating committee whose re- port was adonted by the society without discussion. . Money was collected from the various groups of the Ladies' Aid Society and the sum raised during the year reached the am- ount of $1,530.00, = A cheque de- ducted from this sum will be gent to the church board. Three members of the Society, Mrs G. Trewin, Mrs. L. J. Moody and Mrs. Horsey were yesterday made life members of the Wo- mer's Miggionary Society. Followinig the business session vocal solos were rendered by Mrs. W. A, Hare and Mrs. Alex Fisher. Master Teddy Morgan played the drums while his mother accom- panied him at the piano. Coffee and cake were served at the con- clution of the meeting. Arash--asgkinsore DDD has rival in : no the treatment of i sere, A doctor's f orm ala F. W, THOMPSON DRUG STORE re CEDARDALE CLUB AT WESTMOUNT The members of the Cedardale Home and School Club were en: tertained by the Westmount Home and School Club after the regular monthly business meeting held in Westmount School on Monday evening. It was the first occasion when the two clubs had met together in any way and the evening proved very pleasant for both societies. Mrs, G. Bliss presided over the short business | that preceded the pro- gramme in honor of the guests. Mrs. G. Flavelle sang 2 solo. The 4th Oshawa Guide Company which is composed of girls of Westmount School sang and did a dance. Vocal solos were ren- dered by Mrs. S. Knight and Miss (., Weeks. Miss Molly Wards- ley gave a recitation and selec- tions by the Westmount Male Quartette composed of Messrs. Flavelle, Weeks, Doherty and Bavan, were much enjoyed. Mrs. Burroughs played the piano ac- companiments. Mrs, Frank Rob- son, president of the Cedardale Club, extended on behalf of the ladies she represented their kind thanks for the entertainment pro- vided in their honor. Refresh- ments were served at tables at- tractively decorated, before the jolly party ended. 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Price of pattern 20 cents in stamps or coin (coin is prefer- red, Wrap coin carefully. Address orders to: Pattern Editor, Oshawa Daily Times, Little Betty, watching the farm hands spreading out a stack of hay to dry, could con- tain her curiosity no longer, so she politely asked: "Is it a needle you're looking for?" CE he CHEVROLET] SATURDAY CITY COUNCIL DEGIDES AGAINST JUDICIAL INQUIRY (Continued from page 1) der the Municipal Act, to take such action, Commissioner Stacey,~"That the whole story?" Commissioner Preston, -- "What action did councyj take on those let- ters?" Chairman, --"They were referred to committee of the whole, with in- stru-tions that we invite the Pub- lic Utilities Commission to be pre- sent and give their side of the ques- tion,--~so here we are.' Commissioner Stacey, -- "The charges are that there were prob- ably, some irregularities. That is t' whole story gentlemen?" Ald. MacDonald, "Possibly Bathe and McLellan's letter goes into more details as regards the al- leged irregularities." The Chairman,--"I will read it, acting on his own suggestion ana reading the letter addressed to the Mayor and City Council as it ap- peared in The Times some weeks ago. Commissioner Stacey,--"All right. First vou will agree, 1 think, that after receiving tenders, which after all are only for the purpose of al- lowing the owner of a building to use his best judgment and consider the tenders and the prices, it is absolutely open for that owner to do just as he thinks fit. He is not baund to accept any tender, "Let us take Bathe and McLel- lan's tender. That was for $72,332. That was their bid, which according to the letter which has just been read should cover everything in contract A of the specifications. But they say (reading from a cov- ering letter which accompanied Bathe and McLellan's tender) if we are the successful tenderers there will be several extras required. They say 'if Cooksville brick are required there will be an additional price of $550" They say 'this tender does not allow for any piling the cost of which, if found necessary, will be borne by the owners plus ten. per cent,' and that piling is certainly in contract A. They also say 'if more trenching equipment is to be used in the digging of the seventeen foot trench there will be an extra charge of $300, plus $40 per day rental for approximately two weeks, less an allowance of $200 for de-watering.' "Also 1 would point out that there was no cast iron pipe in this tender, and if they had supplied this it would have been extra. So, you see, if we had accepted Bathe and McLellan's tender we should have had to add to the price bid." Mr. McLellan~"That cast pipe is not in Division A", Commissioner Stacey,--"It is now. If we had accepted your tender we would not have got the whole work done, complete, for $72,000 odd. You will admit that won't you?" Mr. McLellan,---"Go ahead. Commissioner Stacey,--"You will admit that in order for the Commis- sion to say to you go ahead and do the whole job under contract A your bid would have been added to?" Mr. McLellan, --~""No. Oh no." Ald MacDonald, --~""Mr, Chairman, is this a debate between Commis- sioner Stacey and Mr, McLellan." Commissioner Stacey ~All right. In anv case the piling was in con- tract A, but Bathe and McLean say that if it was required it would be charged as an extra. Mr. McLellan, --""Yes, yes, I'l} ad- mit that." Written R®servations At the suggestion of the chairman the letter which accompanied the tender submitted by Bathe and Mc- Lellan was read as follows: "Enclosed find our cheque for $5000 accompanying our tender for the contract of Division A of the filtration plant, Oshawa. "Our price is for No. 1 brick of a well-known make. If Cooksville brick are required there wil} be an additional price of $550. "This tender does not allow for any piling the cost of which, if found necessary, will be borne by the owners plus ten per cent, "If more trenching equipment is to be used in the digging of the seventeen foot trench there will be an extra charge of $500, plus per day rental for approximately two weeks, less an allowance of $200 tor de-watering. "Division B is to supply all iron pine required. "If we are the successful tender- ers the various items will be sub- divided as required for monthly es- timating purposes." Mr, YE So ~"About the brick. We figured on Milton brick, a brick of equal quality which, for some reason that 1 do not know, is $3. different in price. It is equal to Cooksville brick which would have cost an extra $550. «We called on vou, Mr. Stacey, you will remember, and asked about these items, and you said a contractor could always make himself safe on any items he tendered on." As regards the piling Mr. McLel- lan stated "we were mot prepared t~ stand the expense of piling not iwctually called for in the contract. engineer could come along and order piling to any amount, and we were not prepared | to sign any blank cheques like that," An explanation of why it was thought necessary to consider piling at all wos given by F. Dallyn, the consulting engineer to the Utili- ties Commission, to the effect that severar cracks had developed in the sting reservoir. "The contract distinctly says that viling will be required, if necessary, e put in at the contractor's expense" said Mr, Dallvn. Must Accept Hazard Mr. McLellan --" The contractor must sign a blank cheque?" Mr. Dallyn--""Well, that is tazard he is required to take." "Ir. McLellan ~""Well, we put in sur tender and covered ourselves as ad by Mr. him~ is iron a 'advised to sclf, Then r {any reservations, trenching equipment, we figured that we "would be saving the Com- mission the cost of this equipment. "As far as the pipe is concerned let me read 'The bidder to whom the contract, Division B, of said wor'- is awarded, shall proceed forthwith to fabricate or purchase all equipment and supply castings, pipe, thimbels, etc, as required by contractor, Division "A", as 1 see it that means Division A does the work and Division B supplies the material." Mr. Dallyn--"You are the only contractor, curiously enough, who read the specifications that way." Commissioner Stacey,--""Well, let us get back again. You wily admit, Mr. McLellan, that had we accept- ed your tender, it would have cost us more than $72,000? Your tender would have had to be raised just as you say Mr, Trick's tender was raised? Mr, McLellan, -- "If the work which we did not include had to be done, Yes" Not Bound to Accept Commissioner Stacey.~"All right then. Now we arc agreed, I sup- pose, that the owner has the option of accepting any tender he likes, or no tender at all. He can take the tenders and make the best bargain he can' . Bathe, "If Summerville's price had not been there, would you have taken the next highest bid for the ow man to shoot t at?" Commissioner nobody's price aim at." Why The Extra $10,000 Ald. MacDonald,--"Let us down to business. Were there ; reservations on Mr, Trick's der?" Commissioner Stace at all." Ald. MacDonald, --"Then extra §10,0007" Commissioner coming to that from some of our price, and Stacey,~"We took for any person to at why the | Stacey, -- "I We had tenders in the highest class firms. Men with splendid reputa- tions in this class of work, and sev- cral of these firms did not include the particular work tor which Mr. Lrick was allowed $10,000 in their tenders." { Commissioner Stacey read from three or four of the tenders to which he referred, and in which re- servations were made on this par- ticular phase of the contract. Mr, McLellan, ---- "How do know Mr, Trick did not include ths in his tender?" 'ommissioner Stacey,--"He said he did not. Many of the contrac- tors in Division A said they could not read this work into the speci- fications Wanted Definite Charges Commissioner Mason who was suffering from a severe cold and could hardly speak above a whisper, ~"You are putting the Commission on the defence. I would like the plaintiffs to present their case and we will answer them Ald. MacDonald, if that would be the proper proced- ure. We are met as the City Coun- | cil to obtain what information we | can regarding the awarding of this contract. I do not think we are here to try either the case of plain- tiffs or defendants." The Chairman, kv should know defi in ite charge : | Ald Hyman,--'We will get on much faster if we allow Commis- stone. Stacey to get on without all this criss-crossing." Commissioner Stacey, -- "I think that Bathe and McLellan have al- ready admitted that if we had ac- cepted their tender their price, as bidded. would have been added to They would have expected more than the tender called for (murmurs of assent from the meeting). "Now we had the right to let the contract to whoever we liked. We ~pencd the tenders in public. The tenders were all sealed and in the hands of the Secretary, and every tenderer, so far as 1 know, had an invitation to be present "What did we find. First we had a tender from the T. A, Brown Co. 0. contract A, for $108,568, without Next a tender, another straight' bid, for $95,700, Next a straight bid, 'without reser- vations, tor $84,795. Next straight bid was $74,000, and then came Mr. Trick's straight bid, $57,735, These tenders. so far as we could see then were all straight bids. "Noticing the $17,000 between the lowest and the next lowest, we call- am you I do not know Try Lydia E. 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Fach HB1269--Men's woven border Handkerchiefs, of fine soft finish Egyptian Yarn. 3 and 1% inch hems, Good value EE EEE ERY Woven borders in wide 19¢ Dark warm- Some $1 (/Q) Brow FB1286 -- Men's Squares, to sell at twice Burgandy, Rayon Muffler of designs made the price! Blue, and White, 98¢ $1.50 value Copies n, Black ete. Now 80 is that all right, murmurs. of rar as we've gone, that natursi? (r as- sent), Five Straight Bide "We were doing the city's busi- ness to the best of our ability and we had five straight bids, and also scven other tenders who quibbled over these drains and trenches. "We did not know whether any of the tenders who had in straight bids were going to quibble or not, so after Mr. Trick came in Mr. Dallvn was authorized by the Com- mission tn question him, with the result that Mr, Trick said definitely that ke had not considered these drains and ditches in making his tender. "We also had scparate tenders for this particular work amounting to $15,876, $12,000 and $11,000 odd. We took this into account and taking even the highest of these figures it would not have brought Mr. Trick's figure up to the next highest tender. "We were anxious to avoid any misunderstanding at the start which would lead to trouble and difficulty afterwards, and nobody wanted to play any sharp tricks, "It ds quite true that we had the right to say to Mr. Trick, all right, go on home. We did not want to lose Mr, Trick's bid and we dele- gated Mr. Dallyn to see Mr. Trick and report at thes evening meeting, "Mr, Dallyn saw Mr, Trick and got him to put in several items: first the cast iron pipe costing $4,100 Then the excavation of the trench and the laying of the pipe, $4,320. Then the lead, $425, lumber, a diver, and several other things amounting to $11379. We came to an agree- ment with him for the whole thing for $10,000, and in doing this we got a complete contract. Absolute- ly no danger of a cent in extras, the whole tender for $67,735, the complete work for $6,225 less than the next highest tenderer,--who mizht also have quibbled--and $40, 833 less than the highest. Will Be No "Extras" "We thought we were doing good work for the city. Y'"» expect no extras whatever. In the past the experience of this Council and oth- er public bodies has been to get estimates for so much money, but has anyone ever heard of a contract being completed at the price of the tender? There are always extras but that is not 'raising' tenders. You can recall the last big contract, the price had doubled before you got through. "Now we as a Commission have already carried out one contract this summer below the estimated cost. It is finished in every detail, and the filtration plant is another contract on which we expect no extras, We were not going to start at the beginning and say you must do this and do that. No. We were ging to have a thorough under- standing in a proper manner, and do.our business fairly and squarely for every one "Some people may say why did not the Commission retain Mr. Gk bond, or make him go wrough with. his original tender. Well Mr, Dallyn said himself, that there was a possibility for some misunderstanding. We could have let the contract to the next highest tenderer and then fought with one of our own citizens in a law suit, and don't forget that the city coun- cil and other civic bodies do not always win lawsuits, "However, knowing the necessitv of the filtration plant, the need of creating work for our unemployed men, that it was our duty to give the civy the best and purest supply of water possible, and also consid- ering that we should take advantage of government grants for relief work we acted as we did. We feel that the work must be completed by March 31, that we could not aftora a lar it with the possiblity of los- ing, and we did not want any delay in the work." A "Misunderstanding" Ald. Waterous,--"This was on ac count of a misunderstanding on the part of Mr. Trick?' Commissioner Stacey,--"Yes. He di' as I would have done as a contractor. He put into his tender just what he thought should go in and nothing else. It there was any- thing else then that was something which would have to come up after- wards," Ald. Waterous,--"Then you interpret the clause in the specifications which reads 'bidders shall not at any time after the sub- mission of this proposal dispute, or assert that there was any misun- derstanding in regard to the amount or the character of the work done' ?"" Commissioner Stacey, -- "That's quite casy. The bidder would say 'I am not disputing anything, I put everything in the tender as called for by tha specifications as I read them." It would be us doing the disputing." Ald. MacDonald, examining the plans and blue prints,--~""Your plans distinctly state that this is in tender how do A | Commissioner Stacey,--"Yes, We could have said. admittedly, 'vou nave got to do this job' but Mr. I'rick would have said 'l am not going to do it and I won't do it.' We admit that." Ald, MacDonald, -- "How . could any=tontractor, Mr, Trick or any- body else, gather tro m these plans that this particular ditching was not included in division A. '"lhkat is the whole question as I see it." Commissioner Stacey,--"There is always a space between the tender and the signing of the contract. The tender is only to find out the low- est price, then you have got to make a bargain after that, How many buildings have ever been put up for th price orig inally tendere the price originally tendered » Commissioner Mason.--""What is at the back of all this, Why should we, as Commission, ocmpel Mr, Trick to do this work. Is: there some' ulterior motive behind all this." Ald, MacDonald--~"He put in a tender and you should have--" Commissioner Mason,--"Yes, break the man to save the people $7,000 which would probably not have been saved anyway. Tell us what is at the back of your heads" Ald. Boddy,~--"I resent that. We as a Council are trying to get at the bottom of this whole thing." Commissioner Mason,--"I wis not referring to the members of Coun- cil." Commissioner Stacey,--"We could have done that, but why?" Ald. MacDonald "Was it not suggested to Mr. Trick that he had left this particular work out of his tender *' Chairman,~"I cannot see where Ald, MacDonald got that," Not Suggested Commissioner Stacey, -- "It was not. Mr. Dallyn asked Mr. Trick have vou figured on everything in this tender, right in front of the Commission. Mr. Tricks answer ws no, We could have said all riwht, good-bye, but we did not, We t-'d Mr, Dallyn to come to the best have ¢very der there cannot be any extras an we lars to the of his bond. have had us do?" nearl ning thin got everthing in', argsc would o'clock tenders would not be opened un the evening. t he could, without a extras mind you, in order to m the contract complete. We ing in Mr. Trick's ¢ a. eemer six or seven thousand dg good x "I wily admit that we could ha ut Mr Trick out of our heads, fcreht him in court for the Is that what you wo are Mr. Dallyn, explaining the alle ambiguity ot' the specification ht I had made it plain, the tenders came in the all questioned this particul of work. The most sensibl to do was to ask 'have a) thous whet this juncture an argum between Mr, McLellan Mr, Dallyn regarding the rese tions made by Bathe and McLellas At which appeared to have little bei ing on the subject under discuss e. Mayor's Explan . Mugen Erme Marks,~I want explain my position in this m: and also the action of the Comm and |§ as 1 see it. "The Commission was called § one o'clock for the opening of # ders, Mr. Summerville was in n office during the morning and nA said one o'clock but I was not of this matter and may have mi alout this. The advert 1 might have told hi~ th be no one there at and led him to believe ti him. It may have been fault that the Summerville struction Co. was not repr ent when the tenders were opened. "N- I want to say this, hea} opened Mr, Tricks tender we im ..ediately that some mistake. had covered evervthing." there mus We twvondered Ald. MacDonald, -- "Was Trick there?" Mavor Marks,~"No, not th Mr. Colvin (Superintendent of Water Department) was there i I think, will bear me out that (Continued on page 8) \L) te ue | QUALITY IS the best ECONOMY Lyons' Tea goes even one It is a double economy. huge sales (over 1,250,000 pa a day), it costs no more ordinary tea. 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