17 THE OSHAWA TIMES, Wednsedey, November 8, 1961 | East - West Seer Merits Debated BOMBAY (CP) -- A sizzling debate is raging here on the relative merits of oriental and occidental methods of peeping into the future. It all started with the visit to India recently of a Canadian astrologer, Theodore Gormick of Toronto. Arriving in New Delhi with the idea of understanding Hindu astrological technique, Gormick unwittingly sparked a contro- versy by doubting the often- claimed superiority of oriental star-gazing. He told the columnist of a leading daily newspaper he con- sidered the western system of astrology 'far superior." "Indian astrologers," said Gormick, "'often rely on mind- reading and guesswork and fre- quently mix astrology with such things as palmistry. "They also usually predict only matters vf mundane prac- | | | tical interest to clients such as)jf) jobs and marriages. Western methods are more scientific." PROVOKES ANGER This was too much for India's future -diviners. The Gormick remarks could not have pro- voked more anger had he said that Eskimos knew better San- skrit than the Brahmins of Banars. Gormick became the target of attacks, challenges and taunts. One leading astrologer sent word to the Canadian that he was prepared for a competition. The newspaper columnist en- thusiastically backed the idea. He got in touch with Gormick and wrote later: "Mr. Gormick hedged. He did not think he could find the time, nor did wi feel that a test would prove anything." Far away in the Punjab vil- lage of Jargraon the local doyen! of astrologers, Pandit Ramkis- he, read about the controversy and took a train for New Delhi. Gormick and Ramkishen de- bated the fine points of Hindu and western astrology for hours- Ramkishen then told the press that his adversary had con- ceded defeat. He claimed Gor- mick "showed great diffidence about western astrology." DISPUTES CLAIMS The astrologer from Jargraon also laughed away the Cana- dian's claims that he had predicted the Suez crisis and President Kennedy's election and said: "All these things are stale news for us Indian astrolo- gers. We knew about them long before Mr. Gormick and his friends." Gormick said Ramkishen had given a misleading picture of the discussions. He describe. Ramkishen as "childish" and reaffirmed his low opinion of Hindu astrology. Pandit Ramachar, a leading astrologer of Bangalore in My- @ore state, deplored the contro- versy. "After all, facts have to be faced. We here freely concede that the west is far ahead of us in science. Likewise we are| far ahead of them in the mystic} field." | BROUGHAM By MRS. M. 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