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2 THE OSHAWA TIMES, Thuredey, September 26, 1963 GOOD EVENING NEED ACTION IN WARD SYSTEM Much discussion has been heard of late about the pro- posed Ward System plebiscite for Oshawa which is to be discussed by City Council again at an early date. The Lake Vista Ratepayers' Association -- one of the few groups of this kind locally, although Oshawa is sadly in need of more ratepayers' associations -- will take the bull by the horns at a special meeting Sunday night (starting at 7 p.m.) in the basement of St. Philip's Roman Catholic Church. 4 The group plans to form for such a plebiscite, so that the e its wishes are in this regard. Much has already been written in this space regarding the urgent need for a restoration of the Ward System in Osh- awa, where City Council representation is lopsided in re- gards to area representation. Too many of our aldermen reside in the northeast area north of King street; on the other hand, that vast residential area extending from the east to the west city boundaries south of the CPR tracks is with- out representation. It is not good enough to say that all elected representatives are interested in the welfare of the entire city, as well as their own immediate area. An alderman does not have time to keep fully informed on the particular needs of all areas even if he is conscientious and hard-work- ing ally ask Council to clear the way lectorate can decide what Mayor Lyman Gifford has already indicated that he is strongly in favor of their restoration of the Ward System, but the proposal will not go down too well with certain of his colleagues who naturally fear their elimination from the Council scene if such a plan is adopted. IT ALSO HAPPENED IN HAMP POOL'S DAY Murray Johnston has denied rumors that his estab- lishment has discontinued the sale of Argonaut football tick- ets. He says: "We Argos are a tough breed. We don't retreat in the face of adversity, It would be tantamount to treason to desert the good ship Argonaut at any time, especially a crisis. So what if. she is listing badly, if the aft deck is mostly shot away? Didn't this happen in Hamp Pool's day?" ... Is it true that Tommy Gilbert of the Ontario Regiment Asso- ciation is taking vocal lessons and that he occasionally sings publicly? Mr. Gilbert says it isn't so, but Joseph Homes, also of the ORA, says it is. It seems incredible that Mr. Sri By CARL MOLLINS | KITCHENER (CP) -- John, Wintermeyer saw. his political aims and personal 'ambitions collapse here Wednesday night in a tumble of numbers that showed Ontario and his home riding had rejected, him. The Kitchener Aawyer sped to the leadership of the Ontario Liberal party in three years met his Waterloo in a rid- ing of the same name in the space of an hour, Waterloo North riding voters, who first elected him in 1955 by more than 2,000 votes and doubled the winning margin in 1959, spurned him this time in favor of political initiate Keith Butler, a war-wounded insur- ance agent who won by almost 3,000 votes in a total poll of more than 39,000. Voters elsewhere in the prov- ince were just as decisive in rejecting the Liberals, sharply reducing the »arty's weight in an. enlarged provincial legisla- ture, | |DOOMED POLITICALLY? | | Mr. Wintermeyer, grey-haired| but trim and fit at 46, thus) seemed doomed politically as |the electorate apparently put paid to his leadership. | He won the leadership in 1958) after three years in the legisla-| ture and an apprenticeship at! Notre Dame, Harvard and Dal- housie Universities and in mu-} \nicipal politics. The political blow was com- pounded by anxety in the fam-| ily. His father, millionaire in- lvestor Alfred C, Wintermeyer,| \73, was sent to hospital three| jhours before the polls closed tor| surgical treatment of a perfor- ated hernia. | Elder Wintermeyer, who sut-| \fered a stroke two years ag Wintermeyer Rejected By Home Riding Voting who |p. |1960, came to Liberal headquar- ° and was confined to a wheel- chair, was said to be in grave condition late Wednesday. The Liberal leader AA defeat in his home riding within an hour of poll-closing and for- mally recognized the Conserva- tive victory in Ontario at 9:38 m, Gloom settled quickly into the crowded hotel ballroom that was Ontario Liberal headquarters for the evening. In Waterloo North, which takes in the twin cities of Kit- chener and Waterloo and Men- nonite farmland to the north, the first poll reporting gave Mr. Wintermeyer 40 votes to 31 for Mr. Butler and 19 for New Democrat Morley Rosenberg, a student lawyer. TREND TO PCs Thereafter the trend was to the Conservatives, Mr, Wintermeyer maintained his. composure and his ready smile in the face of political de- struction, congratulating his op- Tg both locally and provin- cially, "There'll be another day and there'll be another fight,' he said, But he declined to com- ment on his own political future before he left headquarters shortly before midnight for an attempt at a night's sleep. Mr, Butler, who helped organ- ize the election of his brother Bill to city council at the top of the poll on his first try in ters to accept congratulations. "I'm delighted and semi- stunned," he said in an inter- view, He attributed his scucess to a good door-knocking organi- zation, the support of the local Secretary of State Dean ing their meeting Wednesday Rusk, right, shakes hands at headquarters in New York with Foreign Minister Vaclav of the U.S. mission to the David of Czechoslovakia dur- United Nations David later insurance industry and the back- ing of war veterans. "The industry in which & id RUSK MEETS CZECH Prominent Candidates And How They Fared #227 I 0/work was with me completely,"| TORONTO (CP)--How promi-| Charles MacNaughton, named) Voters in York West returned t Hits U.K. By JOSEPH MacSWEEN Canadian Press Staff Writer The French suggestion that Britain should join nuclear f \forces with France seems to - |have touched a twanging nerve in London. The timing of the move caused a particularly frosty re- ception at the British foreign office, which in any case tends to examine with special care any proposal emanating from President de Gaulle, The cabinet was already wrestling with an agonizing de- cision on whether Britain should endorse the United States plen for putting Polaris-armed ships to sea manned by crews from several NATO countries. The Earl of Home, the British foreign secretary, was reported to be still convinced -- as he left for New York Wednesday General Assembly -- that Brit- ain should at least join without commitment the forthcoming discussions of the NATO multi- lateral fleet. NEW OPPORTUNITY | Home was hardly overjoyed that at a crucial time the French proposal gave opponents 'of the U.S. project a new oppor- told newsmen his country js in- |tenity for debate. tereste din buying American | Reflecting the general unpop- wheat if conditions are favor- |Ularity of President Kennedy's --(AP Wirephoto) Plan in defence circles, senior __.___.... British officers of all three serv- ices are said to feel the French French Proposal : to attend the 18th United Nations} ThA BRaA RR Sa Nerve {secretary of state for foreign jaffairs, put forward the nuclear. jidea at Monday's meeting of the: |17-nation Council of Europe in' Strasbourg. He said: ". . 4 If Great Britain con-. ceives of her future as being' witht) the community of Eu." rope, she can find in this field~ within the community of Eu-° rope, she can find in this field the opportunity for a positive" contribution, taking into account. the necessary choices that such a decision implies." TOO VAGUE In the prevailing British view, this is far too vague a proposi- tion for London to become con- cerned about at present. It is known de Gaulle distrusts the {mixed-manned force because: jthe U.S, would retain the right lof veto over use of its Polaris | missiles. | Th. U.S. would fire them only in its own imterest--not neces- sarily that of Europe--in his view. But British officials note the French nuclear force does not yet exist and, in any case, an- joffer of partnership to Britain jhas yet to come, They also re- jcall a statement by Edward Heath, British deputy foreign minister: "What is essential is that any |European. point of view on de- |fence should be directly related. \to the Atlantic alliance," idea deserves ideration. In a more general way. the snap British reaction appears to jbe that de Gaulle is merely jon ouclear matters, holding out ithe lure of membership in the Labor Minister H. L. Rowntree, | | OSHAWA'S BIGGEST REAL ESTATE MOVE ~|he said in reference to the biginent candidates fared in Wed-/highways minister a year ago, |European Common Market. was returned in Huron, Gilbert could live so dangerously. Remember the furor sev- eral months ago when he publicly demanded that the bag- pipes be ostracized as a musical instrument -from the Ar- mories ('Petrillo kicked them out of the union, why should we have to listen to them here?" he asked indignantly.) Even Scot tempers, slow to anger, were frayed by this quip, de- livered at an ORA executive meeting. Irate letters to the editor followed for several days. Civil war was narrowly averted. : A Jot of Scots would like to hear Mr. Gilbert sing, pub- Lesage Cites | Advertising | Dangers MONTREAL (CP) -- Premier, Lesage said today that adver-| | Mr, Butler, who lost his right/economics } right leg above the knee in Nor-|Wa8 reported re-elected in Tor- insurance companies of Water-|nesday's Ontario election: _ loo. He said the support was in| Robert Macaulay, 42. minister votes rather than funds. both of energy resources and of and development, onto Riverdale 35 minutes after polls closed. Major Franklin J. Miller of |Niagara Falls, running as Pro- |gressive Conservative, was de- feated by Liberal George Buka- |tor, member since 1959, mandy during the Second World War, is one of five Dominion Council members of the .War Amputees Association. The 43-year-old Conservative said he felt Liberal support for a state - run federal pensions Syl Apps, former Toronto Maple Leaf hockey player, took Kingston for the Conservatives, |defeating Mayor William Mills, | Liberal. | Reform Institutions Minister Allan Grossman, former chief |liquor commissioner, took Tor- jonto St. Andrew for the third time. Ada Pritchard, prominent in first elected in a 1956 byelec. tion, to another term, Liberal Leader John Winter- meyer was defeated by insur-| ance agent Keith Butler in Wa-| terloo North. | Premier John Robarts was re-|_ Comment is in cloudy terms, however, largely because the whole issue is clouded, No one seems to know the exact mean- ing of the speech in which) -.. SOON! roinnce turned in London North, his elec-| tion reported 40 minutes after polls closed. Donald C. MacDonald, leader of the New Democratic Party Michel Habib-Deloncle, French' licly or otherwise. \tising creates needs and excites|program and criticism of Pre-|.,A8ticulture Minister William|Hamilton civic politics forjin Ontario, was returned for his REALTORS PLAN FOR CIVIC NIGHT President Sol D. Hyman of the Oshawa and District Real Estate Board is busy these days beating the publicity drums in support of an important upcoming event of the Board's fourth Annual Civic Day Dinner in the Hotel Genosha Wednes- day, October 16, at 7 p.m. The realtors make a fine contrib- ution to the community in this way by honoring municipal representatives publicly. Jack Sheriff is again in charge of the program committee, .. . Mayor Lyman Gifford took oc- casion to warn industrial and business leaders this week (at the Canadian Automotive Museum Dinner) of the danger of granting too much credit. 'The day of reckoning is coming for all levels of government, for many business firms if this mass credit-buying is continued," he warned. "It's about time that more people learned to pay as they go along and not charge everything." .. . The Oshawa and District Associa- tion for Retarded Children will celebrate its 10th Anniver- sary Saturday, October 5, at 2:30 p.m. There will be a short ceremony at the Glenholme School. This will be followed by the cutting of the birthday cake and the open house at the school and workshops. : INTERPRETING THE NEWS Election Dims Test-Ban Hopes By CARMAN CUMMING Kennedy has made clear re- Canadian Press Staff Writer| 1 The long shadow of the Amer-jhas come to take the first cau- ican presidential election, still|/tious steps out of the cold war more than a year Hong is) morass. dimming somewhat the hopes) Ee : pentane by the partial oe ae ssi clear test-ban agreement. Republican candidate, is sure The Senate's approval of the; pact Tuesday should have been) an unmitigated triumph -- for| President Kennedy. But never-| theless the treaty -- and the} spirit it has generated--may "give him headaches next fall. | By that time, if the odds-| makers are correct, Kennedy! to wage a persistent campaign to the effect that U.S, strength is being eroded, that it is not mainaining adequate defence against communism. Abroad, that campaign will probably win little sympathy. In the U.S, itself the impact will be much greater, jappetites which not all citizens| can satisfy. | "The people are then tempted| jto call upon the state and the| ;community to provide the goods |\that advertising offers them and which they cannot obtain immediately by -- themselves," he told the Newspaper Adver-| tising Managers' Association of |Eastern Canada. | "This is a very great danger, ja very real danger that the future of advertising repre- |sents," the premier said, "not only in our Western society which ds abundantly provided for, but in a world in which jpeople are still, generally) |speaking, unable to possess all) |the plenty that advertising puts 'before their eyes." He said if advertising, "'which |today is almost all-powerful," jwould combine its efforts to promoting human values "which are the sole aim of true| ~ | progress," as well as to spend-| ing material appetites, "the face of the world could find jitself changed." | | Premier Lesage said com-| jmercial advertising in all its| forms, and particularly in the; |newspapers, is one of the most dynamic and essential elements| jin the economic life of a |country. eccet peatedly that he feels the time| WEATHER FORECAST mier Robarts' plan for pri- vately-operated pensions "'influ- enced insurance people" to vote Conservative, DEATHS By THE CANADIAN PRESS Toronto--George M. Kelley, 92, a retired lawyer who prac-| tised in Toronto for more than 75 years. Carmel, Calif.--Chauncey J, Hamlin, 82,.for 28 years presi+ dent and director of the Buf} falo, N.Y., Museum of Sciencé and former civil leader in Buf- falo; of a heart attack. Wisconsin Rapids, Wis.-- George Frechette, 57, a leading figure in the broadcasting and television industry in Wisconsin Stewart, 48-year-old farmer, re-|years, took Hamilton Centre for turned in 1. iddlesex North|the Conservatives and became which he won in a 1957 byelec-|the first woman in the legisla- tion. |ture since 1951, George Wardrope, mines min-| Leonard A, Braithwaite, 39- ister since 1961, was re-elected|year-old lawyer, became the lin Port Arthur, first Negro in the legisiature | Ontario Communist Party|when he won Toronto Etobicoke, Leader Bruce Magnusson was/4 New seat, for the Liberals. ldefeated in Port Arthur by| Farquhar Oliver, 59, former [Mines Minister George Ward-/Liberal party leader and dean lrope. jof the legislature, was returned | John Yaremko, whose provin- for his llth consecutive term 'iin \cial secretary's department was|Grey South, a seat he has held under constant campaign, fire,|Since 1926, was returned for a fourth tern|_ Rev. W. A. (Wally) Downer, in Toronto ;Bellwoods, |59, wartime army chaplain and 'Transport Minister Irwin Has'|Speaker of,the house from 1955 kett was re-elected in Ottawa|t0 1960, was returned for his South. |elghth consecutive term as Con- | Stephen Lewis, 26-year-old son|Servative member in Dufferin- took} president of the NDP, Robert Nixon, 35, president of of David Lewis, national vice-|Simcoe. Scarborough West from the Con- servatives, and also defeated Liberal Joe Krol, member of | five Toronto Argonaut Grey Cup |football teams. | IT'S A WASHOUT | Kenneth Bryden, former dep- LONDON (CP)-- Britons who|Uty labor minister in Saskat- send their clothes to the laundry it knotes in the bi vie Ae as ee porn Haldimand - Norfolk returned their money back. A Bank of Provincial Treasurer James Al- England bulletin says modern|!an for a fourth term. detergents wash the notes! William Murdoch, speaker of "whiter than white' and the|the last legislature, was | ink ruins the clothes as well. |feated in Essex South by Liberal! baie --|Don Paterson. Lands and Forests Minister Kelso Roberts, controversial for- mer attorney-general, was re- for more than 20 years; of.a coronary thrombosis. Official forecasts issued by the Toronto weather office at 5 a.m.: Synopsis: Southwest winds have swept warmer air into most of Ontario during the past, Sunny, Warm jturned in Toronto St. Patrick: | Edward Dunlop, 44, who won the George Medal and was blinded during the Second World War, captured Toronto Forest chewan, retained Toronto Wood-! ne for the N™P. | the Ontario Liberal Association, was re-elected in Brant, which he won in a 1961 by-election. Eddie Sargent, Liberal, mayor of Owen Sound, won Grey North from the Conservatives running against two former Owen Sound mayors, Conserva- tive Bill Forsyth and NDP can-| didate Percy England. | Public Works Minister Ray Connell was returned in Hamil- ton-Wentworth for the fourth me. | Albert Walker, the first mem-| ber of the United Auto Workers (CLC) to run for the Conserva- tives, defeated T, D. Thomas, NDP member for Oshawa since 1948. Fred Young, executive direc- tor of organization for the NDP, captured the new seat of Tor- onto Yorkview. Hill, a new seat, for the Con-| Liberal Arthur Reaume, long- During Friday servatives, Dr. Matthew B. Dymond, healt ogg Boos 1008: was ; ae returned in Ontario riding. and cold tonight. Friday sunny, \urray Cotterill, wabie rela- with cloudy periods. Winds be-\tions director of United Steel- coming light variable. tonight workers of America and New and Friday. Democratic candidate, defeated Forecast Temperatures in Toronto Lakeshore by Con- time mayor of Windsor, was re- turned in Essex North, a seat jhe has held since 1951 Special Weekly | Message may be opposing Senator Barry) Goldwater of Arizona for a new four-year term in the White) House. ministration's approach came CALLED "PEACE ISSUE" out in a speech by State Sec In: the pre-campaign jockey- retary Rusk Sunday. ing between now and then a, He said government' officials matter that has been dubbed currently are hearing too much the "'peace issue" may bounce! from those who 'nourish hatred up frequently because they are frightened, It could put Kennedy in the|\those who want to withdraw strange position of defending at\from the world because they home a move that has been dislike it, those who are super- hailed almost unanimously|cautious because they trust abroad. nothing but physical power. The issue is much broader)..." than mere approval or disap-| proval of the test ban. The al NET EARNINGS ate's clear backing in giving its "advice Bev consent" has given the president a weapon against) " those, including Goldwater, who! "len kecae ge gy have reservations about it. td.. 3 mos ended rin a6. But in a broader sense the|1963" g49 967. 1962, $48,900) question involves the whole is- low Compahie Lid : sue of whether the present path ended J i a 113 of the cold war is to continue|si'g9° 2 'Class A an $11,366,519, or whether U.S.-Soviet relations| *,: lass A and B share; HONS 1969, $9,421,126, 86 cents, causes off in another direc-|y obiaw Groceterias Company, Already the lines for the fight are being drawn. A taste of the Kennedy ad- year Lows tonight, Highs Friday: Windsor ... 55 80 extreme north-|st_ 'Thomas... 55 rant province, The Kitchener 50 cool air is expected to advance) Mount Fores 45 |about as far south as Timmins wingham .. 45 jand White River this afternoon|Hamilton .... jand to about Muskoka and Ot-/ct Catharines..... tawa by Friday morning. It will/- Toronto |probably not reach southwestern peterbor | Ontario. Trenton Lake St. Clair, Lake Erie, Killaloe . |Lake Huron, Niagara, western) Muskoka . |Lake Ontario regions, Windsor, North Bay. |London, Ha milton, Toronto: |Sudbury seaee |Sunmy and warm today and Fri-|Earlton ......... day. Winds southwest 10 to 15. |Sault Ste. Marie | Georgian Bay, Haliburton,)White River eastern Lake Ontario reégions,|Moosonee | variable cloudiness today. Sunny| Timmins with cloudy periods Friday. {War mtoday atlittle cooler Fri- |day. Winds northwest 15 Friday, | Timagami, Algoma regions, North Bay, Sudbury, Sault Ste. |Marie: Cloudy with sunny inter- vals today. Friday sunny with a few cloudy .periods, a little cooler, Winds northwest 15 Fri- day. | Cochrane, White River: Clear | |24 hours although cooler air has {moved into the |west part of the 50 ough Your Original CARPET CENTRE Over 50 Rolls of servative gow Eagleson. 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