She Oshavwn imes Published by Canadian Newspapers Limited 86 King St. E., Oshawa, Ontario T. L. Wilson, Publisher WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 20, 1963----PAGE 6 Indifference Not Age Main Election Menace It seems certain now that the voting age in federal elections will be lowered to 18 years, a prospect which fills some people with con- sternation and horror. We doubt if the younger voters will justify the trepidation, however. Wisdom is not a special 21st birthday gift, and young people in their late teens are not likely to be any more foolish in the polling booths than their elders have been. The big question, of course, is how will the youngsters vote? There are 750,000 or so of them, and if they voted with any sort of unanimity they could swing an election. The politicians undoub- tedly have already noted this fact and are already sawing new planks for their platforms -- and this may be the most dangerous aspect of the matter. The conduct of this Parliament and its predecessor has done little to indicate a high degree of political responsibility among a large number of our elected repre- sentatives; one shudders to think of the "free" benefits which may be offered the youngsters as bribes for their votes. If the youngsters are responsible voters, of course, they will examine Things Best Answering a question from Op- position Leader Diefenbaker, Prime Minister Pearson states that the government plans to follow through on its election campaign promise to ' extend family allowances to chil- dren beyond the age of 16 who stay in school. Obviously, the two lead- ers are just playing politics -- but _again at the taxpayers' expense. It is not believable that the lack of a government subsidy of less than $2 a week is going to force a senior teen-ager to leave school. Very, very few youngsters could not easily find opportunity to earn at least that much in a week, and earning it for themselves. would be far better for them than a govern- ment hand-out, Yet, extending the all political promises with the greatest of care -- in which case they will be acting with more judgment than large numbers of their elders. It is the possible at- titude of the 18 to 20-year-olds which is causing most of the dis- cussion, The Kitchener Record sug- gests that "many under 21 have a greater claim to vote on the basis of maturity and mental develop- ment than the majority of those over 21, if the truth be known. But, by and large, and in spite of gen- eral attitudes far less alarming than some would make out, today's under-21s don't really seem to be reaching out for responsibility." Much the same comment is made by the Hamilton Spectator: "We have not noticed people be- tween 18 and 21 getting excited about the voting privilege. If Par- liament approves, the democratic will be broadened. not interest will be intensified is something only an election will decide. Indifference and tepid opinions, so common to- day, are the real menace to our parliamentary system, not the voting age." Forgotten family allowance only to 17-year and 18-year old students in the public and private schools would cost the taxpayers about $42,000,- 000 a year. Like the proposed Canada Pension Plan, the proposal to extend family allowances was a hastily-conceived idea that needs a second look. It is quite possible that both proposals were written into the campaign platform by impractical advisers more concerned with a vote-catch- ing image than with the obligation of power. Some campaign better forgotten. And the opposition would serve the country best by letting them be forgotten. voting base Whether or promises are Euromart Farm Hassle The European Common Market's council of ministers is debating a proposal for a sweeping adjustment of farm prices. If agreement is reached, it will have a profound effect on agricultural trade outside as well as inside the Common Market area; if agreement is not reached, the resulting strains may be too much for existing unity. That is the Euromart dilemma. Framing a workable policy will be exceedingly difficult, for it means hammering out a compro- mise acceptable to the community's two most powerful members, France and Germany, the Milwaukee Journal points out. In Germany, farm prices and pro- tection are generally high. At the same time, domestic production does not meet the needs of the country. Germany, therefore, is the largest importer of the Common Market "six". This produces a na- tural anxiety both that farm in- comes should not suffer and that trading links with third countries should not be damaged. She Oshawa Times T. L, WILSON, Publisher Cc. GWYN KINSEY, Editor The Oshowo Times combining The Oshawa Times (established 1871) and the Whitby Gazette and Chronicle (established. 1863) is published daily and Statutory holideys excepted) Members of Canadion Daily Newspaper Publish- ers Association. The Conadion Press, Audit Bureau of Circulation and the Ontario Provincial Dailies Associetion. The Conadian Press is exclusively 'entitled to the use of republication of ali news itched in the paper credited to it or to The Associated Press or Reuters, and also the local news published therein. Ali rights of specic! des- patches ore also reserved. Offices Thomsen Building, 425 University Avenue, Toronto, Ontario; 640 Cathcart Street, Montreal, P.Q. SUBSCRIPTION RATES Delivered by carriers in Oshawa, Whitby Ajax, Pickering, Bowmanville, Brooklin, Port Perry, Prince Albert, Maple Grove, Hampton, Frenchman's Bay, Liverpool, Taunton, Tyrone, Dunbarton, Enniskillen Orono, Leskard, Brougham, Burketon, Cloremont, Columbus, Greenwood, Kinsale, Raglan, Blackstock, Manchester, Pontypoot and Newcastle not over 45c per week, By mail (in Province of Ontario) outside carriers delivery oreos 12.00 per year, Other P ealth Countries 15.00, USA. end foreign 24.00, France has the lowest level of prices among the six. With bulging surpluses in a number of products plus prospects for further increases in output, the French are strongly interested in opening up new mar- kets, particularly in other Common Market countries. A. tentative compromise would speed establishment of a single agricultural market by first setting common price levels for cereals -- wheat, rye, barley and corn. At present these prices vary greatly, resulting in a veritable jungle of prices for such byproducts as beef, veal, ham, milk, butter and eggs. If cereal prices were harmonized, most food prices presumably would follow suit. : To compensate farmers who would have to accept price cuts, the proposal envisions subsidies that would be paid through 1970. West German farmers alone. would re- ceive $140 million in the year starting next July 1. Main attraction of the compro- mise plan -- for Canada and other outsiders -- is that it attempts to hold Common Market agricultural imports to about their present levels. Canada has a_ subtantial grain export trade with the six- nation community. Whether this arrangement will be acceptable to the French remains doubtful. Bible Thoucht Trust ye in the Lord forever, for in the Lord Jehovah is everlasting strength. -- Isaiah 26:4. The word forever in its truest sense exists only in the vocabulary of Heaven, In whom. else or what else can we trust both for here 'and hereafter? TO BANNOCKBURN OR OTTAWA REPORT Doctor Appalled By Eating Habits By PATRICK NICHULSON OTTAWA--While many visit- ors are shocked by the spec- tacle of members of Parliament at work in the House of Com- mons, the Liberal MP for Tor- onto-Parkdale is appalled by the sight of his colleagues eating in the parliamentary restaurant, "All that ice cream covered with rich chocolate sauce!" Dr. Haidasz exclaimed to me. "That's the sort of food which makes so many of them 10 pounds or more overweight!" Stanley Haidasz -- his Polish "The purpose of the nutrition division is to instruct Canadians what a balanced diet consists of," he told me. "I think that, in this day and age when there are so many food fadists and so much advertising on TV and in other news media about fancy vitamins and rew types of food, it is all the more im- perative that public health au- thorities should continue inform- QUEEN'S PARK family name is pr "hayed-ass" -- is*a 40-year-old Toronto-born doctor of medicine who is now a veteran sitting in his third Parliament. He pre- viously sat in Canada's two s'i}ortest parliaments, the Diefenbaker minority houses of 1957 and 1062. He is not only an experienced family doctor, but also an in- tense and hard-working politi- cian, who has already won pro- motion to the appropriate post of parliamentary secretary to Health Minister Judy LaMarsh. He had recently joined in the celebration of the 25th birthday of the nutrition division of the health department when I posed , to him the question: 'What is READERS' VIEWS WHITBY REPORT Dear Sir: It is time that our Whitby re- porter's stories of the Whitby meetings are corrected and that public apologies be printed with the correct statements on the Whitby page. I have not bothered to correct little errors before because I be- lieve everyone is entitled to some mistakes, but when a re- porter gives a story to the news- paper to print and that story is not the whole truth, but his ver- sion, then it is time to ask: Is our Oshawa Times working in the best interests or every citi- zen or has it become a biased paper? The fluoridation meeting which was held in our Whitby Town Hall was, according to the citizens of' Whitby, one of the best democratic meetings ever held in the Town 'Vhitby. Following the .ueeung I had many of my most .avid pro friends congratulate me on my talk and my stand on our free- dom of rights. The meeting was not fixed, guest speakers were not paid and I strongly object to Mr. T. Moore calling my pro friends and anti friends a _ pantisan audience, Invited guests are not out- siders, they are friends who have facts in writing and photo- stat copies of what is done and being done in our fluoridation battle. Mrs, Burton had a_ photostat copy of a letter by Dr. G. Bates and in this letter he tried to stop foreign citizens from exer- cising their democratic rights to vote on the fluoride question in Toronto. This same doctor tries, with the aid of his Health League, to brain wash every council and when he and the audience were given an equal opportunity to be heard from the floor he never once tried to speak, but the audience participation was ex- cellent. I did say I had talked with Dr. M. Dymond and that he was really worried about the citizens ebing denied their freedom of choice. (In talking with Dr. M. Dymond I find him to be a man who is honestly concerned about moral rights as well as our free- dom of rights.) I did not blame fluoride for my recurring illness and aller- gies in our family. I have an audience of 200 or more who can testify to this, I did say that I really tried to use fluoridated water but with my recurring illness and the amount of fluoridated water I was drinking my_ condition became worse and as a result I was forced to get well water, and my condition improved so we stayed on well water. I spoke on the list of foods in the Morden Report and as a housewife and mother who likes GALLUP POLL to prepare good meals I felt the amount of fluorine in these foods which we use each day plus artificial fluoride in the public water supply was in my opinion too much, that no per- son should be forced to accept the drug sodium fluoride in the public water supply because we all drink different amounts of water and get an uncontrolled dose of this poison drug. I spoke of our allergies in our family, and I asked is it fair and is it democratic to force people with urinary problems, liver conditions, heart troubles, diabetics, allergies etc. to haul well water? I also referred to a newspaper story in the Weekend Tely in which Dr. Hoffer re- ports his findings on mental ill- ness being caused by: poisoning of the brain. Dr. Hoffer claims his scientists have found a way 1 t the urine for unknown bsiances which they believe is associated with the befuddle- ment in about half of Canada's mental patients. He said his con- troversial psychiatric research program has already made a good start in proving that major mental illnesses. are due to faults in body chemistry. I then read a part of a writing on The Concept of Safe Tolerance Dos- age by J. Baldwin Bruce, BS, MD, FACS, AMAS. A Nobel Prize winner has stated that any poison which in- terferes with the respiration of the cells causes. irreparable damage and leads to deteriora- tion and can cause cancer. Let me. explain: every poison taken into the body, if it cannot be ex- creted rapidly in its original state, must be detoxified. This places a heavy and continuing burden on the liver and other organs. This process of detox- ification uses up vitamins, prin- cipally tie B-chain and vitamin C, and vitamins from_ other parts of the body, thus creating a vitamin deficiency, causing organs to break down, leading to degenerative diseases such as cancer, etc. The sodium fluoride in fluoridation "is an excellent example of this process, and be- ing cumulative can never be eliminated, thus causing a con- tinual breakdown of metabo- lism. In regard to fluoridation the problem is compounded be- cause the water is consumed in- discriminately by young and old, healthy and sick, weak and strong, without consideration for individual differences, and even includes the doctors. I said at the meeting that the family doctors should prescribe the drug sodium fluoride for their patients according to the age and health of each child (in this way no person is denied their freedom of rights, and no child who can safely take fluor- ide is denied the use of this drug). I also said no doctor, no den- tist, and no citizen should ever Gordon's Stock Lower Over Past Six Months By The Canadian Institute of Public Opinion (World Copyright Reserved) "The "'image" of the Minister of Finance, Hon. Walter Gordon, has. suffered recently in the eyes of Canadians. Four in ten people -- 40% -- say their opin- ion of him has gone down in the past six months. Only 7% say their opinion has gone up, UE sss tecneis soaedoiconsiens _It is in Quebec and the Mari- time proviistes that Mr. Gordon has suffered the greatest set- back. Forty-five per cent of the people in those regions say their opinion of him has worsened. The question: "What about Mr. Walter Gor- don, has your opinion of him gone up or gone down in the last six months?" Gone Gone About No Up Down Same Opinion 7%. 40% 24% 29% 7 45 19 29 "4 34 28 31 6 39 27 28 CULLODEN ? be allowed to vote and add a dren to be given these shots; of any municipality and deprive any citizen of his freedom of rights. Immunization cannot be com- pared in the same breath as fluoridation. Parents give their consent in writing for their chil- dren to be given these shots; fluoridation is the most dictator- jal piece of legislation to be passed in Ontario, It denies citi- zens of their democratic free- dom of rights to choose drugs for themselves and their fam- ilies. MRS. BEULAH STURGESS Whitby FLUORIDE Dear Sir: As a subscriber to your paper for 25 years, I strongly object to some of the reporting in the November 15 issue, of the meeting on Fluoride spon- sored by the Whitby municipal council. This meeting was well advertised through press, chureHes, home and school or- ganizations, and other groups. The out of town speakers on the panel were unpaid guests, two against, and one for Fluor- ide I. greatly resent having everybody in the audience ap- pear as ill bred, ignorant yokels. This audience was a good representative cross sec- tion of Whitby -- clergy, pro- fessional, business, and other intelligent open-minded _ citi- zens. This misleading impression of the audience was given by print- ing Terry Moore's (obviously a bad loser) statement, and that of Dr. Bates, a Toronto mem- ber of the audience. Your Whitby reporter would be well advised to choose his words more carefully in order to give more accurate re- ports, or else stick with "wire service." Whitby EFFIE THANKS Dear Sir: We would like to take this op- portunity to express our appre- ciation for the fine response you have given our news service program in connection with the Convention of Jehovah's Wit- nesses held in the Newcastle Community Hall. The assembly was not only beneficial to the hundreds that attended, but also to the many good people in the area who ex- tended their hospitality so gra- ciously to us. T. DOWN Public Relations WILSON Newcastle TODAY IN HISTORY By THE CANADIAN PRESS Nov. 20, 19638 ... A decision arrived at 70 years ago today--in 1893-- by the United States Su- preme Court held that the Great Lakes and their con- necting waters constituted the "high seas." The US. and Canada signed a bound- ary waters treaty in 1909 which guaranteed. the lakes to be free and open to in- habitants of both countries on equal terms. 1759--The naval humilia- tion of France was com- pleted when an_ English squadron defeated the French at Quiberon Bay. 1947 -- Princess Elizabeth and the Duke of Edinburgh, formerly Prince Philip of Greece, were married in Westminster Abbey. CLAIM RECORD NOTTINGHAM, England (CP)--Two Nottingham Univer- sity students claim to have set a world see-saw record. They rocked for 10 hours as a charity stunt, a balanced diet, and why is it important?" Dr, Haidasz has had wide ex- perience as a general practi- tioner in Toronto, and has at- tracted widespread interest by his views on diet. MOST: OVER-FED The short answer to my ques- tion, he said, is that mést Ca- nadians are under - nourished and over-fed, while the less wealthy families tend to assess their financial priorities ill-ad- visedly, so that they spend their money on the wrong things first. The purchase of adequate quantities of the right foods is not an optional disbursement: it should receive priority. is meet the needs of man being." "True," the doctor added, "there are certain illnesses: which need a special diet. But this should be prescribed by the patient's physician. We have al- ways stressed that self-diagno- sis and self treatment are dan- gerous habits. Furthermore, ex- cessive doses of certain vita- mins can have harmful effects." "From my experience ag a practising physician, I learned that the vaste of my patients consume only. coffee as their breakfast. The first meal of the day should be a substan- tial one; this would prevent a lot of the symptoms of weak- ness and dizziness which many people suffer in the forenoon," Plebiscites Have Some Advantages By DON O'HEARN TORONTO--The Ontario Fed- eration of Agriculture has come up with a new proposal on mar- keting. A convention resolution pro- poses "trial" ma¢keting schemes. - These would be started with- out a vote and run for two years. Then the farmers could decide whether they wanted them or 'not. At first glance this appears about as practical as giving marriage or the army a trial run. The great saving grace of the marketing program has been that a strong favorable vote has been required. There are those who feel that, even with this, compulsory mar- keting violates our principles. We surely can expect that government would not do away with the vote without the great- est of urgency. And there has not been evidence of this. In our approach to govern- ment on the provincial and fed- eral levels we do not make use BY-GONE DAYS 25 YEARS AGO Nov. 20, 1938 Four new street lights were erected on slender steel stan- dards in front of the Public Utilities building to demon- strate the proposed lighting for Oshawa's main. business: section. Dr. O. G. Mills was elected president of the Kiwanis Club. L. M. Sough and William Burns were elected vice-presidents. J. Harry Rigg of Oshawa took a prominent part at the East- ern Ontario Scouters' Confer- ence held in Peterborough. Rev. W. R. Tanton spoke to the Oshawa Property Owners' Association on the subject of "Co-operatives". Mr. and Mrs. George W. Mc- Laughlin were hosts at Sher- bourne House, Toronto, when the Durham County Club held "Bowmanville Goodyear Night'. A Youth Council was organ- ized in the city. Malcolm Young was elected president; Peggy McKibbon, vice-president; Bruce Anderson, secretary and Bruce Hinton, treasurer. The King Street United Church Young People's Union held a hard time part at which prizes for the best costumes Captain Morgan extra cient oe RUM were won by Miss Doris War- burton and Hayward Murdoch. Laura McLeod, graduate of OCVI, was awarded the Second Carter Scholarship for highest fifth year general proficiency in Ontario County, which carried a cash award of $60. J. Logan was installed Wor- shipful Master of Oshawa UI- ster Loyal Orange Lodge at a meeting of the Order. Mrs. Evelyn Bateman of Osh- awa was guest speaker at a din- ner given in Orono United Church. The Oshawa Welfare Depart- ment announced that 141 famil- ies were taken off the relief rolls, reducing the number on the lists to 736 families. Harmony School was closed by Dr. J. F. Rundle, medical officer of health, when one of the pupils became ill from cerebro-spinal meningitis. 30. DAYS OVERSEAS (OCT. Ist -- MAR. Ist) $312.00 ROUND TRIP AT FOUR SEASONS TRAVEL (OSHAWA) PHONE 728-6201 of plebiscites. In fact we scorn them. We might give this some sec- ond thought. For you can see where they could be of value. Questions such as marketing which involve general principle are an example, Where a new principle is being embarked on, such as in this case compulsory marketing of the individual's product, an expression of opinion from the public might well be taken... « There are those whe gone be against. this--those would say it was a mattef for farm- ers, or only groups of farmers, and that they should be able to run their own business. Others would use the old ar- gument that a government lives or falls on its record, and that the will express them- selves at the polls without pleb- iscites. The argument that one sec- tion of the community should be able to go against general prin- ciples, of course, is a false one. Actually, the rights of every citizen are very much con- cerned when compulsion is alk lowed in marketing. And the proposal that specific questions are decided at general elections is false today, if it ever was true. Elections are de- cided on a great number of fac- tors. And because an electorate selects a party it doesn't mean it agrees with everything it has done or plans to do. On specific questions it should be of value to have the general electorate give specific answers, Even aside from this, there would be one important inciden- tal benefit in that the public would become more edu- cated on public problems, If it were going to vote it would want to know. Now it largely doesn't care. Walmsley & Magill OFFICE EQUIP. LTD. 9 KING ST. E. OSHAWA 725-3506 \ \ { RUM Captain Morgan cae de Label Captain Morgan MICH AND FULL - poDiED FROM THE LARGEST STOCKS OF RUM IN THE WORLD Captain Morgan suggests these four Great Rums for Holiday Giving CAPTAIN MORGAN RUM DISTILLERS LIMITED @ SUPPLIERS TO THE ROYAL CANADIAN NAVY