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Emergency Numbers - Hospi tal 723-2211 Police 725-1188 Fire 725-6574 | She Oshawa Time * OSHAWA, ONTARIO, THURSDAY, OCTOBER 29, 1964 Sactutil Section ' City and district. es ing. features, sports and classified advertis- WILLIAM "BILL" HART | Committeemen Give Views Thirteen of the 14 centennial committee Ts appeared before cil Wednesday night to air r opinions on a city project. With the committee dissolved last Oct. 13, all spoke as in- dividuals. Garnet Tubb, repre- senting the Inter-Service Clubs Council, did 'not appear. All members were heard.prior to 'council's in-committee vote to back Mayor Lyman Gifford's swimming pool proposal. Committee chairman William ©. Hart told council he has not changed his stand. Mr, Hart ad- dressed council the night. his committee was disbanded. He said then he was backing an arts theatre as a natural focal-point project. He claimed his committee's final 7-6 vote for a grandstand was "too chancey" to accept as a bind- ing decisi He also 'clai Mr. Hart defended his claim ite hendiey iedoeated in an Au- its. t it Joc: in an Au- ditorum complex, not attached to a school. "When there is something on, the public would be using that facility alone. A theatre would not be obscured to the same de- djinto their own pockets." if}swimming pool and the theatre taxpayer raise that? No. We are paying taxes now." Donald Iverson, representing the Royal Canadian Legion -- "On the facts we had, I don't see how we could honestly come up with anything but the grandstand. "The pool sounds glamorous but the man-in-the-street doesn't grandstand but Alexandra Park is not the place. "If culture is so good for peo- ple, why doesn't it pay its own way? The Toronto Symphony : Orchestra :cost $560,000 to. run last year and took in only $240,- 000. "To make the Auditorium pool pay, 285 people a day would have to use it. Would you get this many in January? If the know the facts. I voted for the © ALD. BRANCH (L) MAYOR GIFFORD _ citizens want a pool at the Auditorium site, let them dig NOT PROBLEM Mrs. G. S. Morrison, repre- senting the Catholic Parent- Teachers Association: 'Both the can be obtained. Dollars are not the big problem. "There is a definite need for a pool. But a theatre lack here makes it a most suitable proj- gree as-it would if located on the Auditorium site." | Here are the rest of the com-| ments, in the order persons ap-| peared: TO FIT PURSE Ald. -John Brady: "'We tried ect. I recommend a theatre." Russell McNeil, representing Oshawa and District Labor Council: 'I'm not, ashamed of any of the three projects but | dropped the grandstand be- cause outside opinion was not |strong enough, COULD THIS BE REASON SO FEW ATTEND Humor enlivened a meeting of City Council Wednesday night when Oshawa's Centen- nial project was 'considered. Alderman Finley Dafoe was on the losing end of an ex- change with "Pat" Monaghan, a Centennial.committep mem- ber. In outlining the reasons for his. support of an arts centre Mr. Monaghan said that the building could be ; used for, among other things, political meetings. Pisa. "ff MEETS? A CENTENNIAL SWIM- MING POOL .similar to this. CAMERA RECORDS COUNCIL CHAMBER SCENES AS CENTENNIAL PROJECT TALKS TAKE A NEW TUR. NEEDS RATIFICATION NOW IN OPEN COUNCIL one -- located on a site ad- joining the W. A. Porter Col- legiate in Scarborough -- has been proposed for Oshawa by Mayor Lyman Gifford, The proposal. was made by His Worship at Thursday night's meeting between City Coun- cil and members of the now- defunct Centennal committee. The pool could be built for $167,600, His Worship told the meeting. The building would cost $148,000 and the sun cover, $19,600, Mayor Lyman Gifford's secret centennial proposal turned out to be a swimming pool -- sim- ilar in design to the one in the picture shown above. And city council backed his |proposal in committee Wednes- |day night on a 10-1 vote. Ald. Finley Dafoe opposed the 350 Hik $1,350 Hike Jan. 1 For as "my s"" becaus - Treasurer Leig sg ee vote on his motion to build a pool at the Thornton road south site. Aldermen John Brady and Walter Branch, both members his present $11,250 salary tojof the Auditorium executive $12,600. A year later he will|committee, supported him. reach the job's maximum of | $13,500. MEET IN WEEK | Council adopted these recom-| Council will meet in a week to mendations in a special report:|ratify last night's decision. The salary range for position of|votes came at the end of a four- city treasurer remain $10,950-|hour meeting during which 13 of $13,500; Mr..Markson's salary|the 14 centennial committee be $12,600; the treasurer get}members spoke to council. the present maximum in 1966.| His Worship named two city- Effective dates were decided by|owned sites for the pool: the eouncil. southwest corner of Adelaide The motion 'which increased|#venue ast and Wilson road Mr. Markson's salary was pro-|"0rth (mine acres); the south- posed by Alderman Walter|¢ast corner of the Hillsdale Branch and seconded by Alder-|Manor property, south of Ross- man Finley Dafoe, It read: land tay -- oy jbo Rit- ee : son road north (30 acres). by PER i - Pont nag He repeated his belief that Oct. 6, 1964, with regard to the| We have to take the pools to evaluation of the City Treasur- the children, not the children to er's position be adopted - ithe pools". ' Council." opted by this The mayor stresse' his proj- ect idea would stand out as a 'OUTSIDE METHOD' birthday gift and stay within the Ald. Walter Branch, city y|dollar figure of the centennial finance chairman, said the grant -- $186,400. city's Stevenson - Kellogg guide City Treasurer I. Frank Mark- son's council-approved raise, ef- fective Jan, 1, 1965, will push He quoted Pickering archi- ing public monies for these things. He also said no official word has come on a time extension. He said council will have to abide by the Nov. 9 deadline and "move fast". Plas for fi- nancing, permanent main- tenance and completion date must go in with the city's ap- plication. Ald. Hayward Murdoch blast- ed 'what he called "our money- minded, materialistic way of life', as evidenced by. "all the fuss over what the project should be". Ald. Murdoch, who set ip the centennial committee during the mayor's sickness earlier this year, said he would have advo- cated a Health and Welfare building with a juvenile court ('it's desperately needed") if he had had any idea the three final projects would be a pool, grandstand and arts theatre. "We should have been looking for something different," he said. "None of the three is dif- ferent. I foresaw centennial gar- dens or the Historical Society project (extension of Lakeview Park and acquisition of nearby historical buildings). We have have got away from all that.' He advocated a plebiscite. Mayor Gifford said each proj- ect represents a complex ques- tion. "'No doubt you would get a minority report.' He noted sev- eral centennial committee members admitted there were few points separating all three on their rating~sheets. Ald. Murdoch, who was ill last Gifford's Pool Plan Is Supported 10 to Ald, Alice Reardon -- for pool but not at Auditorium site be- cause of cost and distance. Ald. Cliff Pilkey -- mayor's pool suggestion okay, but not at Auditorium site. Grandstand no public support. Theatre worthy; city;should start putting money away for one. Ald. Cecil Bint still for grandstand but what. about pos- sibility of enclosing Rotary Pool and building another one, if enough money? Ald. Norman Down -- woild not oppose pool but Auditorium site too far west. Ald. Tom Rundle -- grand- stand no appeal to me; theatre need but far beyond budget; pool within budget, would. get. great deal of use. Ald. Walter Branch -- back- ing pool at Auditorium site, this pool designed as _ separate, Board of Education should con- sider adding theatre to school anyway. bata READ LETTER (Ald. Branch read: a letter from the Oshawa and District Labor Council. The ODLC favor- ed a pool at the' Auditorium Site, the same site if the grand- stand were adopted). Ald. Finley Dafoe -- Oshawa people are primarily working people. The appeal is for arenas, rinks and pools. I have VOTE APPEALS COURT FRIDAY » JAMES WILLIAMS nothing against culture but 'it should be backed by those inter- ested. They should not run to council on sideline issues. North Oshawa park is a possible loca- tion for the pool. Ald. John Dyer -- will back closed pool, within budget. Sur- prised grandstand first choice. Reluctantly dismiss theatre, cost outside centennial grant. Auudi- torium pool never should have been discussed because its cost way outside grant. 1965 Officers to come up with a project to fit} "I voted for the pool but I'm the purse. I supported the pool/not sold on the location, The all the way through. I helped to/theatre is good but pretty cost- draw up the Auditorium com-|ly and hard to keep operating." | mittee brief before I knew I| R. S. White, representing the| was appointed to the centen-|Home and School Council: "An nial' committee. jarts theatre is the most suit- "The pool would complete our) able and lasting centennial proj-| sports complex much faster./ect. The. promotion of the cul-| Whether selected or not, the|tural is an ideal centennial re-| pool will be a reality; also the|membrance and a benefit to grandstand and track. We have|the community." $2 acres at the site." | Rey.. Alfred .Woolcock, repre- Ald. Walter Branch: ."I fa-|senting Oshawa Ministerial As-| vored a pool at the Auditorium|/main concern was. financial. site, It is inconceivable to think|The swimming pool and theatre] the money ($100,000) can't be/are equal. All the projects could! raised by the Auditorium com- be included in a city long-range} mittee. |program." "The grandstand is imprac-|; Pat Monaghan, representing tical at Alexandra Park. Park-|Rev. M. Darby, Roman Catho-| ing is congested now; the area|lic Church: "Oshawa has many 4s residential. The arts theatre/athletic facilities. But the mind| idea is excellent and is needed.""| must also be stimulated.| tects Rankin and Milne as say- ing the covered pool can be built for $167,600 (building, night and left before both votes, left this written comment: "One pool anywhere could be the nu- cleus of a second Boys' Club. I feel: the Historical Society pro- posal was the best deal for us." Reaction around the council chamber table went this way: OTHER PLANS Ald, Cephas Gay -- for sep- arate pool; worry about location) later. Ald. John Brady public favors a pool, not necessarily at | Auditorium sute; I continue to jsupport this site. on salary ranges is based on minimums. - standards - maxi- mums over four- and six-year periods, depending on the iob. | $148,000; sun cover, $19,600). "In Mr. Markson's case," he|_, William O. Hart, chairmary of explained, 'we are moving him|the centennial committee; «said up more quickly." Mr, Markson| Heating the pool could push the came to Oshawa April 1, 1963,/CSt to $185,000. He told council at $10,950, an has had one|his committee had investigated raise to his present level. the pool, at W. A. Porter Col- The sqcial report was pre- legiate in Scarborough. pared by N. S. McFadyen, resi-| He said it is a 70 by 40 foot dent manager of the King and|P00l, not Olympic size, and with Simcoe branch of the Canadian|n0 provision for spectators. Imperial Bank of Commerce,|The Auditorium committee brief Oshawa, W. L. Hetherington, |called for both, ° CA, of Gunn, Roberts, City a 7 auditors, and Daniel Fleming, NEXT STEP a' Ald. Gordon Attersley -- favor City personnel department head.| His Worship said the next step|neighborhood pool; city _ not Mayor Lyman Gifford says he|iS to get an architect's advice properly served; let plannin i on sites and preliminary plans. |board tell us where to locste. in| would like 'to see this 'outside € d salary report" method adopted|He said he is opposed to spend- most populous area. in the future for department ; "I've been on the hustings for more than 30 years in this area," Alderman Dafoe said, "and I have never seen more than 100-150 people at a politi- cal meeting." "Maybe that is because some don't state their political platforms clearly enough," Mr. Monaghan retorted. Ontario County Judge Alex 'C, Halt will hear 220 voters' list appeals at Oshawa city hall Friday afternoon. Deadline for appeals was Oct. 23, There were 14 appeals from individuals and 206 from the city's assessment commissioner on behalf of persons where there has been a change of ownership. To be able to vote in the December municipal elec- tion, one must be a British subject, 21 years old and be an owner or tenant in the city. Are Installed _ The 9th Cub and Scout Group Committee installed its officers for 1965. at St. Gregory's Audi- torium recently. The Group Committee consists of Don Brock, chairman; Tom Simmons, vice-chairman; Jack Dalby, vice-chairman; George Price, secretary; Ian Lee, long- time treasurer, wil] again retain that position. Z Scoutmaster Bernard Dickey gave a report on the activities of the troop. In attendance at the jnstalla- tion were. Rev. L. T. McGough, Mrs. Moira Atherfold and Miss Cathy Duquette, Aklela of the 9th Cux. ALDERMAN DAFOE and stick the $186,000 in the bank." The centennial committee was represented by 13 of its 14 members. City Counci re- porters, and a few spectators, brough the assembly in the council chambers. to 41. One humorist in the audi- ence circulated a suggestion among the committee mem- bers which met with laugh- ter, and nods of approval. Anonymous suggestion, No. | 37," it read, "Rename Lake- | view Park 'Centennial Park'--~ g| Se | |Rowe street. No one ~ was in- jured. George Campbell, ing Sports: "The. Auditoriums pool would no' be an out-and- "out centennial project. Some members felt it was not within their prerogative to put taxpayer in 'debt' for $100,000. ance costs, leaving it no chance|collided Inight on King street east near/drunk driving. (Auditorium representatives claimed they could raise $100,- 000 in addition to the centen- nial grant through pledges. But the city would have to guaran- tee this amount). "Maintenance costs are im- portant. The Auditorium esti- mate is $300 a day. The Boys' Club requires $30,000 a' year. (Grandstand maintenance costs represent-| Youth's artisitic OTHER VIE and cultural) ide 'must be developed, | S "A theatre in a secondary! Damage was estimated at|lawrence, 26, of 612 Finucane] sonnel every year. | (Continued on Page 25) MCVI Students To Hear Top Political Speakers - Damage $1000 As 2 Cars Hi head on. Wednesday were listed at $3500 a year).| Students at an Oshawa col- jj) FINE TRACK "Mexandra Park has one of the finest cinder tracks in Can- ada, and a football and rugger field too. Heré is a chance to get something we might not otherwise get." Mrs. Jack Aldwinckle, repre- senting Oshawa Folk Festival: "Eleven organizations repre- senting a great many people re- commended an arts centre. This should hawi»been given more consideration. "Tf the pool is a birthday pres- ent, then tell the people they will owe a third of the total cost. "Let's put an end to entertain- ment dollars leaving Oshawa and enjoy artists here in a place of which we can be proud." Tobie Couture, representing Oshawa Junior Chamber of Commerce: 'We were given a job todo and we diq it; all this criticism of the committee _ iss not right. jlegiate will get a chance to question politicians on contro- | versial subjects. | It is part of a plan by James |B. Palmer, history and econom- ies teacher at McLaughlin Col- legiate and Vocational Institute, / to get "teenagers" interested in politics, He has arrand for. four \ during the next four months, Dr. Pauline Jewett, Liberal MP for Northumberland will | Speak in the auditorium Novem- ber 9. "Mike" Starr, MP for the |Ontario Riding will speak in December. M. J. Caidwell, ex-leader of the CCF and MP for 23. years, (and now a professor at Carle- jton University and member of |the Privy Council), will speak in | January | Senitor Jean Francois Pouliot |Spea ; French-Canadian SWer questions from students for wil! give the | he reads in the papér really j / mean something. politicians to address the school | : re : heads. |. Police said the drivers were| Present policy is for council to |Robeg Arnold Bruce, 28, of 517|review salaries of departient Park road south and George R./heads and other non-union per- were COLLEGE PARK SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST the school would reduce mainten-|more than $1,000 after two cars street, | was with| | Bruce charged favor of the "political experi- ment." Mr. Palemr: says by giving students an active contact with politics they are likely to gain more interest. «: He said: 'I have found that when a student actually meets politicians his whole attitude changes. It makes the names "It would not be possible to take all the students to Parlia- ment so I am trying to bring Parliament to them." This is Mr. Palmer's second year of teaching in McLaughlin Collegiate. He describes himself| > as "an independent.' | e PAULINE. JEWETT : k for 30 minutes and an- "I voted for the grandstand. | point of view when he .speaks in/@ further 30 minutes. Operating costs for the pool would be $43,000. Should - the 4 February | Each of the politicians George Roberts, principal ofjaction and-later by discussion in| mile within the time they have! will'McLaughlin - Collegiae, ig in'the classroom Students will in no way be ', induced to 'support any party, | but Mr. Palmer said he hoped they would all eventually take! a "positive" approach, | He said; "I hope they will jask some. good controversial) | questions. : | | The success of ghe. venture will-be judged by student re- "improvements in the band. Gie Said His Worship, in appreval ofthe salary increase: 'Mr. Markson has done a great job for us. He has completely re- organized his department and has saved us many thousands of dollars.', Kingsway Band Membership Up This year the Kingsway Col- ege Band, under the new direc- tor, Mr. Jack McClarty, has ex- panded to 50 members. Mr. McClarty, who has his Bachelor's degree in Music and Education from the University of Montana, and his Master's degree in Musi¢ and Education rom Andrew's University, has been responsible for numerous CANDIDATE George C. Martin, City In- surance agent, announced to- day that he. will be a candi- date in the aldermanic race in Oshawa's municipal elec- tion Dec. 7. He is: president of the City of Oshawa Pro- gressive. Conservative Associa- tion and was chairman of the Oshawa Safety League for two years, He is also public rela- tions chairman of the Osh- awa chapter, Oshawa Heart awa chapter, Oshawa Heart Foundation and a member of the Traffic -Advisory Board of the City, He was return- ing officer in the 1963 Oshawa riding (Provincial)) election. Mr. Martin, 40, is. married and has one child. He has been in Oshawa' 11 years. He was an | aldermanic candidate in 1962. of these is the addition of a training band, which will ensure that positions vacated by gradu- ating students will be filled the following year: The band has spent the major- ity of its time preparing a vari- ety, of band music to be pre- sented next Sunday night at the Seventh-day Adventist Church Victory Banquet. This banquet will include the first concert appearance of the band and its director. r BREATH'S FLIGHT At cruising speed, jet airliner passengers travel more than a breathed in and out twice. '|and fund-raising, || Park _|Church, 1164 King street east, of the General Conference of To Dedicate Church After eight years of planning the College Seventh-day Adventist will be dedicated Saturday afternoon at'3 p.m. Guest speaker will be. Pastor W. P. Bradley, a vice-president Seventh-day Adventists, with world-headquarters at Tacoma Park, Washington, D.C, His Worship, Mayor Lyman Gifford will. bring greetings from the city, and Rev. L. W. Herbert will preserit greetings from the Oshawa Ministerial Association. All three pastors who have led through the build- ing program will be present, Pastor V. W. Collins, who help- ed launch the program and now of Boston, Mass., Pastor F. C. Fell, now of Jonia, Mich., and Pastor E. E. Duncan, the cur- rent minister. Pastor D. L. Michael will-ex- tend the Welcome at the Dedica- tion Service. Pastor P. G. Biy will give the Invocation. Pastor V. W. Collins will present the Scripture Reading, and Pastor} L. L. Bock will lead out in the! Pastoral Prayer. Mr. J. L. Leatherdale, first elder, will give the History of the Church, and the Kingsway College Choir, led by Ralph Coupland, will ren- der the Dedication. Anthem. The }ence Wells, Act of Benediction will be' pre- sented by Pastor E. E. Duncan with Pastor J, W. Bothe offering the Prayer of Dedication. Miss Gail Perry will sing "How Love- ly Are Thy Dwellings", and the Thank Offering called for by Pastor E, L. Green. The Offer- tory Prayer will be given by Pastor F. C. Fell, with Pastor P. W. Manuel pronouncing the Benediction. The organist for the service will be Mrs. Flor- START FRIDAY The weekend will begin. Fri- day night with a Consecration Service. Kingsway College Choir will present "An -Evening of Praise', with Pastor J. W. Bothe speaking. "At the ll o'clock Sabbath morning serv- ice Pastor W. P, Bradley will speak, with Pastor G. R. Nash, secretary of the Church's World Sabbath School Department, giving the Mission Appeal. The launching of the building program took place at the loyal- ty dinner, October 10, 1956;. the ground-breaking ceremony, May 25, 1959. CHURCH SEATS The church seats 1,100, and the overall cost including build- ing, furnishings, equipment and landscaping was $363,500. The church members raised $229,500 of this figure, with the General Pe ee Conference of SDA giving $55,- 000; Canadian Union Conference $27,000; Ontario - Quebec Con-. ference, $32,000; and Kingsway Publishing Association (include. ing the Lot), $20,000, The pi: esent membership stands at 712, not including the 300 Kingsway College students who swell the attendance during the school year. Following the Dedication Service on Saturday a tour of the building will be available to friends and guests. In addition to the Sanctuary, the building . provides an Assembly Hall seating 200 on' the lower floor, as well as a fully equipped kitchen. There are six fully-equipped children's classrooms, a Dorcas and Wel- fare Centre, complete baptismal facilities above the chancel area, Board Room and Library, Treasurer's Office, Pastor's Study. Mother's Room, and Deacons' Room. The stained- glass window was imported from' Holland, and the' drapes from: ftaly. Regular weekly services in- clude .Sabbath School, Sabbath morning at 9.30; the Church . service at 11 o'clock; Sabbath afternoon Vesper Service one- half hour before sunset; College Vesper. Service Friday at 7.30 p.m.; and Mid-week Service a 7.30 p.m, Wednesdays, . « ;