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a. 2 THe OSHAWA TIMES, Thuredey, November 5, 1964 'GOOD EVENING -- By JACKGEARIN -- INTEREST IN PLEBISCITE PICKS UP Interest in the City's 'forthcoming plebiscite on the Ward system is starting to pick up at long last. "with any Kind of luck it could develop overnight into & red-hot municipal election issue, if some of the recent mail » to cross this desk is any criterion. The Ward system dispute is anything but a one-way Street with all of thé valid, reasonable arguments lined up oh one side. There is as thuch to be said for it as against it. & Some critics of the Ward system are trying desperate- ly to create the general im- pression that the great bulk of support for it is only to be found in the south resi- dential area known &s Lake ) Vista. Such statements will not | stand up tong under close inspection. The idea for the plebiscite, it is true, Was originally. conceived several months ago by a.majority of the directors of the Lake Vista Ratepayers Associa- tion. These directors helped to implement the idea by organizing a petition, but one point should be remember- ed -- the 400-odd-name peti-. tion contains many names of those resident in areas far re- moved from Lake Vista, including a good number from north of King street. The demand for the plebiscite, regardiess of how it may go, Was anything but a regional affair; otherwise, Council would have conveniently filed the petition away in the musty "received and filed" archives. For the sake of the record, Council did delay for several months after the petition was presented becausé some councillors felt that it had been signed by too tany husband-ahd-wife teams. The clamor for a plebiscite from several sources undoubtedly prompted Council to accept the petition as it was. No less than-seven of our aldermen are residents of the northeast area, while the populous distric south of the CPR tracks (from east to west) has only one resident alderman -- Norman Down who lives on his farm in extreme east end. Mayor Lyman Gifford also Yesides in the harbor area. ALD. DOWN WHAT'S NEW AROUND THE HARBOR? What is so rare as a@ publicity release from the Oshawa Harbor Commission? For a considerable period, news out of the Commission has been about as hard to come by as confidential. memos out of the Soviet Embassy, Ottawa, if we exclude the recent @nnouncement that Arleigh Hillman was to replace fellow- lawyer Thomas M. Rundle as secretary. The reason, undoubtedly, has been that business down around the harbor has not been booming; also, Commission meetings have not been too frequent. All of this preamble is by way of announcing that the three-man Commission will hold a meeting this week; wheth- er or not the Press is admitted, this department sincerely hopes that the Commission issue an up-to-date statement on what has been happening at the Oshawa Harbor. The taxpayers of Oshawa should be interested in the operation of the harbor; not only did they loan the Commis- sion approximately 40 acres of iand on a long-term deal (with certain re-sale rights), but the outlet represents an important investment for the future of this community. For instance, more than $500,000 was expended by the Federal Department of Transport to build the 500-foot east-side wharf in 1963; also, the dredging bill has been big in the past three years. To further illustrate the close association between the City and the harbor, City Council permitted James Williams, | City Industrial Commissioner, to spend several weeks this year on Harbor Commission business (which synchronized with his own efforts to bring new industry here). | The Commission has not been niggardly in the past about Providing pertinent data on its operations, but it has been silent far too long in the present instance. The taxpayers should be brought up to date on such matters as: The number of ships using the harbor this year, to date, as compared with last. Total harbor revenue, as well as operational costs (includ- ing salaries for the three-man commission, secretary, whar- finger, harbor master. It would also be useful if the Commis- sion would provide a breakdown on the rental revenue from tenants. Fred C. Mallory (former chairman of the Oshawa Indus- trial Commission and City Council's representative on the OHC) is chairman. The other commissioners are Alex Shestow- sky and Harry Millen. aN LIFE CAN BECOME TERRIBLY COMPLEX OVERHEARD ON A KING ST. BUS: 'How complex can life get? A friend enrolled his precocious pet mongre! in a 10-week Obedience test course for canines, but it isn't work- ing out. The dog can't seem to. concentrate, keeps fallitg ¥ 'behind in his classes. To add to friend's misery, his wife, who never did like the mongrel, wants to get rid of the animal if it flunks out on its final test. Now he wants to give it a cram course," Security NELSON, B.C. (CP) It, probably cost Mrs. Erik Thor- berg about $1,500 to have her' fri second child. Mrs. Thorberg travelled from her home in Nesbyen, Norway, to this southeast British Colum- scheme in Norway, she could not enter h be cared for by a doctor, Her first' child was born un- der the Scandinavian country's "secunity from the cradle to the grave"' and she didn't like it. "If you think you have to wait a long time for the doctor here, <you should go to Norway," she said So Mrs. Thorberg came to ends until the happy event. September and Mrs. Thorberg left B.C. Monday. |winds will sweep cooler air into |the province today bringing an ) Pr time collection. The public is asked to donate toys -- old or new -- to heedy children by taking them to Jaycee col- lection baskets set up at Shell Six children of Oshawa Jay- cee Tobie Couture's family are seén here getting the ball roll- ing for the Oshawa Junior Chamber of Commerce's Toy- GM Quebec Plant WANTED: TOYS FOR THE NEEDY Oil Company gas stations around the city. The six Cou- ture children imbued with the spirit of giving are, from the Frozen By Construction Stoppage STE. THERESE, Que. (CP)--|tion Council (CLC), refused to Negotiations started Wednesday |start work Wednesday morning night between 200 construction |until they received wages equal workers who staged -a suddeén|to those paid in the Montreal |work stoppage and contractors |area. | building a General Motors as-| Contractors engaged in con-| lsembly plant in this community |structing the GM plant employ | 20 miles north of Montreal. (only a day shift. The workers, all members of} Picket lines were set up out- unions affiliated with the Mont-|side the site. : real Building Trades Construc-! A construction council spokes- WEATHER FORECAST | Mainly Sunny, Turning Cooler TORONTO (CP) -- Forecasts |Friday, Cooler. Winds northwest issued by the weather office at}15 to 25 becoming light tonight. 5:30 a.m.: | Lake Huron, southern Geer. S$: sis: Gusty north w es t|gian Bay, Algoma regions, Lon- | as wi ad don: Mainly cloudy with a few | scattered ae bbe nf end temporarily to the mild|sunny with c loudy periods. weather of the past few days. | Cooler, Winds northwest 15 to 25 Considerable cloudiness is ex-|becoming light tonight. pected in all areas with scat-| Timagami, Cochrane, White tered showers or snowflurries in|River, western James Bay re-| ) man said the men themselves decided not to work until they received wages negotiated for the Montreal parity zone which ends about three miles south of the GM site. | The spokesman said wages jpaid at the site are from 60 to 80 cents lower than those paid equivalent workers in Montreal. For example, con- struction laborers are paid $2.05 at the GM site and ¢?.78 in Montreai. 32 30 28 Kingston ......00. Killaloe ... Sault Ste. Marie... Kapuskasing ...... White Rivers doeeee / mesa cn ae Panta sad ong me egy A Balkanization: By KEN KELLY OTTAWA (CP) -- Liberals Speaker Alan Macnaughton cut off further discussion by ruling it out of order. But Mr. Bi aR EAN nese oa aa a NE BNA Formula 'Means Dief Mr. Diefenbaker argued that some of the provisions Of his prodded away Wednesday at a sensitive spot on the Prégres- sive Conservatives' anatomy-- he opinions of former justice ir & pro- posed formula for amending the constitution. Prod Justice Minister Favreau to say amending formula's effect on federal and provincial powers. Lib-/ARISES FROM TALKS government's 1961 formula are contained in the Liberal for- mula "'but there have been sev- eral changes made that did not exist in the plans we had," Under certain circumstances, the provinces would be altowed to pass legislation in the federal field, he said. Canada could be mme was able to get that quotations from the memo give a true picture of the left, Lori, 3; Michael, 5; Mark, 7; Cathy, 9; Paula, 6 and Paul, 6 --( Ishawa Times Photo CBC Red Charge Serious: Tory OTTAWA (CP)--Justice Min-} ister Favreau said Wednesday he will discuss with Quebec At- torney<General Claude Wagner charges by a Quebec cabinet minister of Communist activi- ties in the CBC, He was replying to Heward Grafftey (PC--Brome - Missis- quoi) who said serious charges had been made against the publicly-owned corporation ' by Provincial Secretary Bona Ar- senault. He asked whethér Mr. Arsen- ault had provided the RCMP or Mr. Favreau with any names or facts with respect to his charges. Mr. Favreau said he will be seeing Mr. Wagner Thursday in Montreal and will take the mat- ter up with him then. AUSSIE-U.S. LINK Australia is prepared to spend some $14,000,000 in a TV-com- munications satellite link be- ta the U.S. and Australia by |MAKES CHARGE Conservative sensitivity on the subject arises from discus- c|Sions behind closed doors of the caucus of MPs about the atti- tude the pafty should take on the government's proposed amending formula. A number of. Conservatives have attacked it in the Com- mons and Mr. Diefenbaker was quoted as stating in Toronto Monday that the formula goes a long way to introducing prin- ciples which will destroy fed- eral powers. Mr. ernment's formula. ae -- backs pete of the vernment's proposed formula as identical to the one Mr, Ful- ton proposed as tive justice minister in 1961, At other places, it questions whether too much limitation is being placed on federab powers through new parts added to the 1961 provi- come "a loose association states -- the Canada... of ,, balkanization of There have been reports that - Leon Balcer, Quebec Conserva- tive leader and MP for Trois- Rivieres, led a group of Con- servatives in 6pposing the criti- cisms voiced by Mr. baker and some of the servative MPs. Diefen With publication of of the Fulton memo, one serv- ative source charged that "the Balcer-Fulton axis is at work." sions, Part of it was Commons last Friday by Eldon Woolliams (PC --Bow River). uoted in the Next time, try... Other of it were quoted Tuesday in press reports sug- qretine Mr. Fulton's views con- ict with those of his chief, Op- position Leader Diefenbaker. To some Conservatives the whole subject is tied up with whether an indirect leadership challenge is being offered to Mr. Diefenbaker. Mr. Moreau charged in the Commons that Mr. Woolliams in quoting from the Fulton memo last Friday argued that it supported the contention that the 1964 formula places a new interpretation on powets which could be delegated by Parlia- ment to the provinces. Mr. Moreau said news reports about the memo quote it as say- ing the provisions confer no new jurisdiction or power on the provinces nor diminish federal jurisdiction or power in the slightest. He asked Mr. Woolliams to table a copy of the Fulton memo which, Conservative sources said, was written by Mr. Ful- ton at Mr. Diefenbaker's re- quest. When Gordon Churchill (PC-- Winnipeg South Centre) pro- tested that such a request was a flagrant abuse of the rules, Transport Minister Pickersgill said he possessed a copy of the memo and it stated the exact opposite to the Woolliams' in- terpretation. %. B@ the attraction PL John Ovens, 0.2. OPTOMETRIST 8 BOND ST. E., OSHAWA PH. 723-4811 Mosoonee ..', € Timmins Y Yi CH 4 WHAT YOUR FA 7) eo of opposites. . iy XIN ospital or} British Columbia to stay with| the more northern regions. Lake St. Clair region, Wind- sor: Variable cloudiness and jcooler. Mainly sunny Friday. Winds northwest 15 to 25 be- coming light tonight. Lake Erie, Niagara, western |Lake Ontario regions, Toronto, |Hamilton: Variable cloudiness and turning cooler, Friday jmainly sunny. Winds northwest |15 to 25 becoming light tonight. Eastern Lake Ontario, Hali- burton, Killaloe, northern Geor- gian Bay regions, North Bay, |Sudbury: Cloudy with a few jshowers. Variable cloudiness t "NOT MUMBO JUMBO" his afternoon. Mainly sunny gions: Cloudy with a few show- | ers or snowflurries. Friday |mainly sunny cooler. Winds jnorthwest 15 becoming light to- night. ue We I Kes) eK Forecast Temperatures IN |Low tonight, High Friday; »y | Windsor 5 \St. Thomas, London .... Kitchener . Mount Forest |Wingham .... Hamilton |St. Catharines... Toronto | Peterborough Trenton "Great Lakes Booklet Set Down In Plain Talk OTTAWA (CP) -- The fed- eral .resources department has She said,|nublished a 14-page pamphlet, Great Lakes Water Levels, to) pr se some of the problems connectéd with changes in the) lake levels and their possible |solutions. | Resources Minister Laing said Wednesday. the booklet, which features color pictures and sketches of the jakes sys jtem, is expected to fill an im- portant information gap. Too often the private citizen, who suffers from dramatic rises and fails in the water levels, The baby was born in mid-|firmly believes that 'the engin-/four years ahead is probably eering community is hiding be- hind what may appear to be written mumbo jumbo," the minister said. The pamphiet discusses the geographic conditions of the lakes, the differences with other water systéms and the causes of changes in the water levels It tries to answer some ques-} tions about cyclical patterns in these changes, a downward) trend and the effects of stor-| age in Lake Superior and On-/ tario. : The booklet concludes by in- dicating that the problem of it forecasting three or jelaborately the highest hurdle to overcome | before solutions can be found. bia community so she would not be forced to have her baby at | SING DEMANDS MADE ON THE CHILDREN'S AID SOCIETY Over the last ber of through the Ch has increased by 134%. This is one indication of how the work required of the Society has grown even-faster than our Community has grown. This increase has taken place even though the Children's Aid Society has been ever more reluctant to provide subsi- tute care for children away from their own parents, unless absolutely necessary. Most of this substitute care has been provided with the con- sent, and often at the request of the parents. Usually the request has been made because of illness, lack of housing, desertion, loss of income, or other social or moral handicap. Often in any one case a number of these factors exist. children five years the num- requiring care ildren's Aid Society Many of the children com- yb Pt tL Ey LL BBA The newsmaking trend: Wl patterns versus solid shades Ml | Decisive stripes and colourful patterns in to- 2s day's accessories call for contrast by a solid jay os colour or subtle pattern in your suit. | | When you choose your suit for Fall, look Be 1 ahead to your accessories. If you like domi- | g nant colours in haberdashery, select a plain- H tL shade cloth for a styling blend that will be in | PB) effective good taste. | get Come in soon...while our selection of clothes by Cambridge is now at its finest ve x Return From ing into the Society's care are born out of wedlock. home, attended only by a mid- wife. Under the socialized medicine Message To Members Of CHAMBERS [/* " we. FOOD CLUB hee a 146 -- 44 Special Weekly | | 42-- %% as 443 -- % 208 --~ ~ 209 -- 210 -- 240 -- 264 -- 497 -- 177 613 -- 9% 633 -- 88 681 -- 88 Property Management Course Mr. Richerd A. Young, Vice- President and Mr. Steve Eng- lert, Seles Representative, have returned from Kansas City, Mo. t institute of Real Estate Man- @gement in property menage- Sment.. Both hed attended , Course number 1 held in Pitts- | burgh last Spring. GUIDE REALTY LTD. Realtors 16 Simcoe 5S. 723-1121 Steve Englert Oshawa Community children. HAROLD E, PIERSON, Pres. 11 ONTARIO STREET The Children's Aid Society is concerned that 'so many children need to be separated from their' happening in all cases. Many of or prevention services are made possible through the grant receivel each year from the Greater We urge all to support the Chest Campaign. to the limit to help us do what 'is needed for the Chest. GREATER OSHAWA COMMUNITY CHEST ROBERT J. BRANCH, Executive Secretary rents. We try to prevent this | PHONE 728-0203 a pes | = x a ai | | aT A NAME FOR Fl "Doorway to a Man's World" 23% Simcoe South 728-7974 Open Fri. Ti 9 P.M. FOERE T rey | rT RE I A os smi oe ; ae ee -- Gaia oTEerEriririrter;eaetst ttt rity) fire