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Henry Lumley, 104, of Chat- ham, Ont., told police his en- tire savings of $400 was stolen SAVINGS STOLEN from his home during the weekend. He is shown here with the sugar sack in which Ea ak Ace mee tactic eect ain tad ae a cen TORONTO (CP) -- Attorney- General Arthur Wishart said Monday Ontario's laws govern- ing the granting of court injunc- tions against labor unions are 'being compared by his depart- ment with injunction laws of other governments, "We've started research to see what is done within other jurisdictions," he told reporters after representatives of three separate unions had asked him to launch an inquiry into the use of injunctions in labor dis- putes. William Froude, president of Local 27 of the United Auto Workers (CLC) in London, Oni., told the attorney-general an in- junction obtained by Wolverine Tube Limited of London is help- ing to destroy a UAW iscal , |Seeking its first contract with Wolverine Tube. he had kept the money. --(CP Wirephoto) AT JAYCEES' TOWN HALL FORUM Candidates Reply To Phone Queries Following presentation of their platforms during the Jun- ior Chamber of Commerce- sponsored Town Hall forum Monday night, aldermanic can- didates were subjected to ques- tioning by a telephone audi- ence. (See story on Page 13) Here are some of the ques- tions, and replies of Aldermen, alphabetically: Maintenance of parks in Osh- awa? Al. Gordon Attersley: There is no thought of taking any away. | With the revised assessment the mill rate im gg ue now taxes are up again. iy Attersley You said council made a mis- take in not extending Gibb street? Ald. John Dyer: It was a colossal error that we did not make provision for 'the traffic jam we know is: going to hap- pen (when the Civic Auditorium opens). The extension has been planned for a long time. It will cost thousands of dollars. We have to go through three-quar- ters of a mile of pasture field with no service costs forth- coming. How about going to con- ventions with no reports forth- coming? Ald, Cephas Gay: I gave a report on the Firemen's conven- : The rates are ited from estimates. We have fixed costs and capital costs. The population is increasing and we have to pro- vide services. If we stagnate we could hold the tax rate. Whe- ther or not the present rate is realistic is purely a matter of Do you plan to spend the win- ter in Florida (asked of Ald. Cecil Bint). Ald. Bint: Yes. I'll be down there in February and will miss two council meetings. It will improve my health so I will be able to represent the city ali the rest of the year, including the summer months. How many times have you been excused from voting for conflict of interest? Ald. Bint: On four occasions. I work for land developers. Do the Works Department have more men than they need, and how about wages? Ald. John Brady: Manpower is an important question and it is under continuous scrutiny. This is the responsibility of the Director of Operations and he has not yet recommended lay: vention in Peterborough. The money to go is in the bud- get and is approved by council. NOT DISSATISFIED Are you dissatisfied with your salary? Ald. Gay: No. Before we got the raise (from $1200 to $1500 a year) we averaged 28 cents an hour for meetings attended. The increase is in line with other cities. Your stand on ward system? Douglas L. Gower -- The sys- tem has worked other places; it could work here. It could save the time of people coming here (to council). You said we have a Director of Operations who does not di- rect? George C. Martin -- He is not given a free hand to direct. It is the custom of council to inter- fere. You will hear more about this during the next week. Do you favor the creek valley expressway? Mr. Martin -- It is a very dan- gerous pipe-dream. It is not necessary to ruin that part of our city. There are other ar- teries we can use, and for less ing off any men. WAGE BILL UP As the city expands the wage| bill grows. We should pay a} fair wage but this too is under | continuous watch. | How. many members of your family have worked at city hall?! Ald. Brady: My daughter} worked for the Board of Health for two years. Hiring is their! (the Board's) prerogative and I have never attempted to influ-| ence them. | Why. has the city not paid} its share to the hospital? Ald. Brady: The hospital was in fair financial shape and) there were reasons the city} needed the money. One of them benefitted the hospital -- for the city's share of the Hillsdale Manor extension Why should not single women pay the poll tax now that te a minimum wage law. And is the tax necessary when it costs so much to collect? Ald. Brady: The provincial Act governing poll tax is so constructed that it does not per- mit single women to pay the og tax. The minimum wage And the city has no to do with it. s still making money: collecting it. | Your views on the centennial project? Jan Drygala: I'm not against a pool but my choice is a cul- tural centre. We should provide 70,000 people here with food forthe mind. | Are you for or against the ward system? | Jan Drygala: I am neither for nor against. It may result in a certain section getting more at- tention than another. I think the citizens are intelligent enough to decide. Why was Bond street chosen over Athol street for the one- way system? Ald. Norman | Down: Athol| would cost much more than Bond to convert to a one-way | street. The city would have to|quate with the crease? ad much more property. + money. Would you vote for another | pay increase? Ald, Hayward Murdoch -- No, and there is no suggestion of it. The mayor's job is a full-time one, though, And the day has to come when council will have to take another look at that. How much debt is foreseen in the five year plan? Ald: Murdoch -- he forecast is $14,000,000 to 1969. The pro- gram will be examined each year and will go to the Ontario Municipal Board for approval. _ There are three major figures: roads and 'bridges -- $3,500,000; schools $2,250,- 000: secondary schools -- $5,333,000. That's over $11,000,- 000 of the total. In this same period a little more than $10,- 000,000 will be retired. Where can we cut down? That's up to council and the Board of Edu- cation Elaborate on the ward system and your stand? Ald. Cliff Pilkey -- We made an exhaustive study and put to- gether an 1l-page brief, which has been distributed, Advocates of the ward system are sayi si bring new blood to coun- cil. | In the past 10 years we have} had 28 different aldermen; and| only five of the 28 are now serv-| ing. None have served continu-! ously in the past 10 years. We| are getting changes. | Under a ward system cliques| would form on council. If you! were outside the clique, you! might get nothing done. What co-operation is given to the Director of Operations? Ald. Pilkey -- The council has co-operated with the Director of Operations. Our responsibility is administering policy: Detail is his business. At no time has he indicated to us that he hasn't! received co-operation | Is council representation ade-| population in-| vd was extensive. After annex- sewers, roads and other serv- Ald, Pilkey -- One Toronto ward has two representatives and 115,000 people. Surely we, with a 13-man council, can look after 70,000 people. How much will it cost to build the creek valley expressway and has an alternative been con- sidered? é Ald. Pilkey -- The projected cost is $6,000,000, with 75 per cent being paid by the provincial overnment. Cloverleafs will be fully paid for by the province. Can you help control the high cost of education? Mrs, Margaret Shaw -- Edu- cation is not expensive. But multi-million dollar schools are. This council, to my knowledge, has never questioned the Board of Education on expenses. Beautiful schools don't matter. The little red school house is still a lesson. Why are you leaving the there. The union has been on strike against the company since Aug. 19. Local 27 was certified a year ago by the Ontario Labor Relations Board but is still Mr. Froude said that 42 hours after the strike at Wolverine had begun, the company cb- tained a court injunction limit- ing picketing at the plant to six men--three for each of the two! ap aang sae gates. He said this had made the picketing "completely inef- fective." Mr. Wishart met for 45 min- utes with representatives of the Auto Workers Union and of the International Typographical Union (CLC) to hear their de- mands that injunctions made against them be revoked. The ITU is on strike against Tor- onto's three daily newspapers. Earlier the attorney-general, Labor Minister Leslie Rown- tree and Provincial Treasurer James Allan' met for an hour with representatives of the United Electrical, Radio and Machine Workers (ind.), which is striking against Lan- ark Manufacturing Company of Dunnville, and Globelite Bat- teries Limited of Toronto. Mr. Allan was present be- cause his riding of Haldimand- Norfolk takes in Dunnville. The union asked Mr. Wishart to investigate the actions of magistrates, who, the union claims have shown bias against striking workers in Dunnville. The attorney-general rejected this demand outright, saying he would not interfere with the jurisdiction of Ontario magis- trates, judges or other judicial officials. Ross Russell, the Electrical DRAKE'S LOG This week is going to be busy for the rates of the "Drake". Today they will have their usual parade and it is hoped that those who have not been able to attend because of extra studies can come along now that the examinations are over. The annual Christmas Dinner will be held in the Naval Vet- erans' Hall on Viola street, off Ritson road. The dinner is at 1900 hours and all must be there by 1845 hours, in uniform. Drake Corps is parading to Westmount United Church Sun- day, with Air Cadets, Sea Ran- gers and Air Rangers. More de- tails will be given Thursday. A dance will be held on board Saturday at 1930 hours at the barracks. A silver collection will be taken to defray the ex- Busy Week For Drake Members will be one of the following: A pair of skates, or two cans of food, or a toy which does not need too. much repair work. By passing on these items some good can be done for others, and a good time be had by all attending the dance. Did you know that ... The deck above the holds in the old ships, which would now be call- ed the platform deck, was known as the orlop deck. The term is a contraction of a word of Dutch origin, overlap. In HMS Victory this deck was painted red and was the place where the wounded were taken to be treated by the ship's sur- geon. They were safer as the deck was below the waterline, and the blood would not show on the deck. The term, orlop, is still used in merchant ships. penses but the admittance fee For Teenage CACHE BAY, Ont. (CP)--Pro- vincial police have launched a i effort--backed by a school board? Mrs. Shaw--I'm worried about our $24,000,000 debt. If someone isn't in there plugging we will be getting our » debentures through the loan sharks. Your position on the King- Simcoe one-way system? Mrs. Shaw -- I'm opposed. Athol street is the right one. This is wrong for. the business merchants of the city. We will be taking the livelihood away from our -merchants,. lowering assessment and encouraging un- employment. DEATH-TRAP SEEN Athol street will be a death- trap in the next two years. What is the income from the Harbor and does the city realize anything? Alex Shestowsky, a Harbor Commission member -- The Commission is a crown corpora- tion. Financial reports are re- stricted. Council members do get reports. The city gets no money. Can you work with Mayor Gif- ford? Mrs. Christine Thomas -- I would not run if I thought I could not co-operate with the mayor. We have our own ideas but I promise I will give the chair the respect it demands. Your comments on a full-time mayor? Mrs. Thomas -- I made it a full-time job. The city is large enough for it. The salary is suf- ficient for a part-time mayor but I would be happy to be mayor again, at no salary B How much did the debenture debt rise during your term as alderman and mayor? Mrs, Thomas ~ I can't answer at a moment's notice. But the ation we had to provide needed \ices, | Why did you choose the alder- |manic race, rather than run for mayor? Mrs. Thomas -- As an alder- man, my voice will be louder. The mayor is the leader bu: the jwoman to death and ieft an- $5,000 reward--to track down a young prowler who slashed one other for dead with 54 stab wounds, Three provincial polic einves- tigators were brought to this town of 800 persons about 30 miles west of North Bay to help in the search. Police said Mon- day they are particularly inter- rested in information about a youth seen hitchhiking on High- way 17 near Sturgeon Falls early Sunday. The attorney - general's de- partment offered the reward for information leading to the con- viction of the man responsible for the death of Mrs. Alderic Lavergne, 69, the wounding of Jeannette Renaud, 32. Doctors said they were un- Police Step-Up Search Slasher saved her life by pretending to be dead. Dr. Oliver Marangere said 17 of Miss Renaud's wounds were major. and seven of them could have been fatal; Despite a heavy loss of blood, her condi- tion was reported to be im- proved at hospital in nearby Sturgeon Falls. COULD HAVE KILLED Miss Renaud told police the women were attacked by a prowler who entered a store under the Lavergne apartment Saturday night. She was awak- ened by the noise of the man's attack on Mrs. Lavergne and the youth then began slashing her with his knife. She feigned death, not moving even when the youth returned later and kicked her. After he left, she staggered to a neigh- bor's home. DAR ee nie CA I i igi ede dk Injunctions In Union Disputes Examined | Workers' organization. director, said he extracted a promise from Mr, Rowntree to investi- gate the use of juveniles as "strike-breakers" in the Lanark manufacturing plant. He said teen-agers as young as 18 were being employed. The union's brief said strikers had been arrested and "treated like hardened criminals by po- lice and jail authorities." It ac- cused police of acting 'as if they were members of a 'pri- vate force hired by the owners of the strike-bound plants." More than 100: electrical- worker strikers from Dunnville and 80 UAW strikers from Lon- don were in Toronto for the day of 'nbor meetings. The auto workers also met privately with Mr. concerning the strike at Wolver- ine. Premier Robarts had asked Mr. Rowntree last week to at- tempt to get the two sides to the bargaining table. But the labor minister issued a prepared statement after- wards saying "it is my view that the parties themselves will have to re-assess and re-ap- praise the situation and seek new avenues to understanding." Seek Data On Growth Education officials in Oshawa have been asked to find the latest information abdut growth of student population in the city and present the information to the Board as soon as possible. Board of Education made the request last night when a mo- tion by Robert Nicol asking sec- ondary school princpals to de- cide on the next two sites for ONT schools was defeat- Stanley Lovell said that with the student growth information the board would be able to de- cide where the new schools should be built. He said: "All the principals should do is give us the facts we should decide where the schools will go." A second motion by Mr. Nicol asking the board to sell all property 'of no great value" to the board was also defeated. Mr. Lovell said the board did not own any sites not needed and that they were now buying land for schools in future Rowntree }: THE OSHAWA TIMES, Tuesday, December 1,1964 3 DR. M. C. SCHUMIATCHER is escorted by an RCMP con- stable Monday as he arrived at the Saskatoon courthouse SASKATOON (CP)--Dr. Mor- ris Cyril Shumiatcher, 47-year- old Regina lawyer, filed notices of appeal in Regina against a conviction on a charge of con- spiracy to defraud the public and a three-year prison sen- tence. where he was later sentenced to three years for conspiracy to defraud the public. Lawyer To Appeal 3-Year Jail Term in mining claims and ¢evelop- ment. Fawcett, a 66-year-old geologist from Ottawa, with conspiring with the late Walter Luboff to defraud the public between 1954 and 1961. ;|gram adequate to' p --(CP Wirephoto) Shumiatcher and Thomas were charged Shumiatcher, prominent in Saskatchewan legal circles and an active community worker, filed the applications immedi- ately after sentence was handed down by Mr. Justice D. C. Dis- bery in Court of Queen's Bench at Saskatoon. Application for $5,000 bail pending hearing of the appeal also was sought by Shumiatch- er's counsel. It was adjourned by Chief Justice E. M. Culliton of the Saskatchewan Court of Appeal until today, when fur- ther arguments will be heard from Shumiatcher's counsel. t Shumiatcher was convicted Saturday by a jury of 11 men and one woman after a trial of|j nine weeks unfolded a complex story of stock promotion and share transactions involving growth areas. seven companies dealing mainly month to Oshawa Board of Edu- cation will learn background ga the city educational sys- em. the class at a meeting last night after it was suggested by Trus- would enable new: trustees to what was going on. are not standing for the board this year. Plan Class For Trustees New trustees elected next attend a_ class .to information The Board decided to arrange ee Stanley Lovell. Mr. Loevil said the class oin in meetings, knowing just Four of the present Trustees NDP Chief Slams - Personnel Raids Ont. (CP)--Don- leader of the govern- ment Monday night for "raid- ing other countries for skilled personnel." to Stanley Rendall, Ontario minie economics personnel which they need themselves." "The practice underlines the fact that after 20. in power, the provincial : tives have failed to develop an educational and -- technical skills for a developing industrial society," said Mr. MacDonald. No Freeze-Up In The Seaway MONTREAL (CP) -- There were no reports of water freeze- ups in the St. Lawrence Seaway Monday, the official closing date for the waterway. A seaway official said the locks will continue working 'as long as the water is not frozen." He said there were 83 ocean- going ships in the system west of Montreal, 51 of them in the Welland Canal and the lakes be- yond that point. Vessels in the locks and. the lakes "will just come back down normally," . the official said. Of the ships still in the sys- tem, 51 were above Port Wel- ler, Ont., in the Welland Canal. Navigation on the seaway closed Dec. 14 last year. HEAT WITH OIL DIXON'S OIL 313 ALBERT ST. 24-HOUR SERVICE 723-4663 SERVING OSHAWA OVER 50 YEARS ensbenmamel -------- able to count the number of stab wounds on Mrs. La- vergne's body. Miss Renaud, who is engaged to Mrs. La- vergne's son and was staying at the Lavergne home during the weekend, suffered 54 stab wounds. She told police she "G00D FOOD NOON SPECIALS HOTEL LANCASTER 27 KING ST WEST business of council is done by the aldermen. The mayor is a chairman; he should lead. Afid I have 'been out of the country for seven months. Your comment on the ward system? Mrs. Thomas -- Not at this time. When we reach the 100,000 mark (in population) there will probably be a change in our form of government. Your comment on a full-time mayor? Edward Zalewski -- A full- time mayor would have more control in the city. He would Pg more ideas and do a better job. Do you favor a pool? Mr. Zalewski -- Yes, but more than one. 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