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Sa RETIRE ecmneyeene ae | She Oshawa Times Published by Canadian Newspapers Limited 86 King St. E., Oshawa, Ontario TL Wilean Publisher __ ae SATURDAY, OCTOBER 16, 1965 -- PAGE 4 National Medicare In '67 Fine Idea If Health and welfare Minister Judy LaMarsh would seem to have adopt- ed a more diplomatic approach to her politicking while in Oshawa than press reports ordinarily credit her. In comment on when Canadians were likely to have a national medi- care program, she cushioned her es- timate much more carefully than many in her party are wont to do. The promise generally made is that it will be available by Canada's Birthday, July 1, 1967, But Miss LaMarsh did not say that in Osh- awa; her words were that "we have asked Canada's premiers to let us know by the end of the year if she can be ready by ... 1967". When the Hall Royal Commission on health services reported last year, no deadline was set for the im- plication of the medicare program, The year 1971 was mentioned prom- inently and costs were estimated on that basis. At that time, too, Miss LaMarsh was realistically cautious. She pointed out it would be a leng- thy business and refused to suggest a target date. Thus she has been Hats Off To Today we at The Times are pleased to pay well-deserved tribute to our young and enthusiastic part- ners in the publishing business in Oshawa, the carrier boys and girls who deliver your newspaper. These youngsters are little mer- chants with a big business. For those who produce newspapers they She Oshawa Sines T. L. WILSON, Publisher R. C. ROOKE, General Manager C. J. MeCONECHY Editor The Oshawa Times cumipining The Oshawe Times lesteblished 1871) and the itby Gazette and Sere satablithed 1863). ls published dally fundeys and Statutory holidays excepted). ot Car Daily Publish- ere Association. 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It's Possible consistent in Oshawa in hedging her comment. Unfortunately no such hesitancy has been shown by her colleagues. At the federal-provincial confer- ence in July the prime minister re- vealed the federal plans and sug- gested that each province have its program in operation (with 50 per cent Ottawa help) by Canada's 100th Birthday ! This would mean that all the pre- liminaries outlined in the Hall Re- port would be completed in consid- erably less time than two years: that the lack of facilities and per- sonnel, the immense detail involved in such a comprehensive program would all be put straight in some 20 months. It is a tall order indeed. As a promise it undoubtedly has a wonderful appeal. As a practical proposal it borders the impossible. Miss LaMarsh would do well to put the facts before her party's cam- paigners, If we can have national medicare by 1967, how the Pearson team intends to achieve it on such a short deadline would be of much greater interest to the electorate than the promise left ridiculously unexplained. The Carrier are the most vaiuable link in the chain. Delivery is the heart of the newspaper business. It is the final step in a complicated and costly ef- fort to supply the news as quickly The efforts of thousands of people all over the world are all for nought un- til the carrier boys and girls com- plete the job by putting the news- paper in the hands of the readers. A special source of pride for the boys and girls who tend newspaper routes today must be the success achieved by many who have carried the news before them. In the busi- ness world, the professions and scores of other worthwhile pursuits in society the names of former newspaper boys are prominent. They started early gaining ex- perience in business, nfeeting cus- tomers, learning the importance of courtesy, friendliness and considera- tion. It has been said the fourth "R" in education, isa newspaper route, So we give a nod of appreciation to the youngsters who are serving their community, the future and themselves. It's a salute to young adults who may well already have successyin the bag ! J ww, OSHAWA: PROFILE Manager Of Chamber "Wears Many Hats' Daily ' "By RON DEVANEY of The Oshawa Times Staff If report writing, meeting or- ganization and committee work appeal to you, envy Jack Mann. This is the life for the 31- year-old secretary - manager of the Oshawa Chamber of Com- merce. The Chamber story is his story. "Generally the job is one of management operation and de- tail similar to that of business, Book-keeping, reports, super- vision of staff and records and the follow-up committee work are probably the main aspects of the job,"' he says. Basically, of course, the Chamber is a' service. It is a JACK MANN non-profit or ganization with members' dues the only source of revenue. PUBLIC INTEREST "We try to create an interest in public events," Jack Mann says. "Our work and money is *spent' in trying to improve the community. '"'We want to get people con- cerned enough to think and - or act. To stimulate, and thereby improve, the community . "This latter asnect includes helping bring businesses here. We are largely backed by the business community. "For example, we are _jinter- ested in the education field. Im- proved education facilities af- fect industrial potentials, Firms thinking of locating here like it better. This is one of the things they check." Birth of the Canadian Auto- motive Museum was a Chamber project. Both the Greater Osh- awa Community Chest and the Industrial Commission had their beginnings in Chamber discus- sions; Mr. Mann pointed out. "We also helped with the first meetings of the recently-formed Social Planning Council and helped encourage the interest in regional planning. SEVERAL 'HATS' "Our university committee did a lot of background work over several years and some of our people are on the com- munity college committee." Jack Mann wears several 'hats' around the Chamber of- fice. He answers over 500 letters a year which come into the Cham- ber office seeking information on everything from tourism to industry. He edits a two to three page monthly bulletin which carries these indicators of the standing of the business community: car and truck production figures, new homes, unemployment fig- ures, post office sales, tele- QUEBEC EDITORS COMMENT... "phones in tise and the DBS average weekly earning figures. He is manager of the auto- motive museum, with staff super vision, display develop- ment (most cars are loaned) and promotion his responsibili- ties, And he is secretary to all 11 of the Chamber's - committees: the Board of Directors, the executive committee .and nine sub - commi tees:-thembership, industrial affairs, visitors and convention, education, commer- cial affairs, policy, transporta- tion, civic affairs and public re- lations. Then, there are special com- mittees, temporary in nature, set up for special events such as the visit of the Ste. Therese Chamber of Commerce. (This was prior to the opening of General Motors' Ste. Therese plant.) One of Jack's first duties wher he came to the Chamber three years ago was member- ship manager. The total stood at 400 then, about 500 now. "Most of the larger progress- ive commercial and industrial firms are represented, as well as several smaller companies. "Plus professional types such as doctors, dentists, pharma- cists, lawyers and, of course, hotel and restaurant owners." Acting as secretary to the Chamber's 11 committees is a big part of Mr. Mann's job. COMMITTEE WORK "I meet with the chairmen of these committees to prepare agendas. Then | take the cor- respondence and take care of the follow-up work and get the minutes out." Jack was born in Kapus- kasing, Ontario. His mother died at his birth, His father died 2% years later. He was brought up by his grandparents at Chesley, near Owen Sound, and went to live with his uncle in Aurora when he was 15. At 19 he was out of school and had a job with a construc- tion firm. There followed jobs as store manager with a sport- ing goods store chain, a stint as a variety store manager, and now the Chamber. He was active in retail mer- chants and shopping centre as-~ sociations, gaining an_ insight into the group work which he thrives on today. He married Florence Fisher, a sister of his former boss Doug- las, in Aurora in 1953. They have one child, Raymond, who goes to Westmount school. Jack's personal hobbies are working with wood and square dancing. : : Jack holds memberships in the Ontario Chamber of Com- merce executive, is a director of the South Ontario Agricul- tural Society and is secretary of the South Central Ontario Re- gional Tourist Council. He is a member of the Canadian Muse- um Association and the Oshawa Historical Society. BIBLE Jesus answered and said unto him, 'Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the king- dom of God."' -- John 3:3. Our human nature is to be selfish, self-centered and self- seeking, However, Jesus calls upon all of us to rise above this level of living and dedicate our lives to serving God and our fellowmen, nana mover TOLL} ..» COMPLEX ELEMENTS 'Several Roads Open For Exploration' This is a selection of edi- forials on current topics, translated from the French- language press of Canada. Montreal Le Devoir--A cold look at the history of Canada makes it clear that neither rigid biculturalism nor loose multiculturalism will hold its complex elements together Because of its history and evident geographic makeup it is necessary to give official and definitive recognition to the English - speaking and French-speaking groups. This official duality is the corner- stone of the whole Canadian structure. But it is also nec- essary--unless one is a bar- barian and lacks any respect for life--to try to find effi- cient ways of recognizing va- rious cultural groups which have, by their work and a laudable fidelity to their origi- nal traditions, acquired the right to Canadian citizenship. The Lesage - Kushir agree- ment (an agreement between Quebec Premier Jean Lesage and the head of the Ukrainian Committee of Canada)-recog- nizes both French and English as basic teaching languages in our country. It also ac- cepts that the languages of other important ethnic groups be recognized as "subjects" in schools where these groups are large enough and show enough interest to justify this service. The important difference lies in the meanings of the expressions "teaching lan- guage" and '"'subject."" The teaching languaze is the main language, that in which most ff not all of the subjects are taught. The subject is just one of the many which make up the study program. cultures, French and English. This recognition of two ethnic the combined population of Brazil and Japan. Just as it is in our interest not to multiply indefinitely the number of official languages and cultures, so it is our moral duty to permit some complementary and very no- ble cultures to survive and even to spread in Canada. If the principle . . of bicul- turalism was jealously applied to two cultural groups only, this would simply be a slightly refined formula of an old ego- ism which we want to exclude from the Canadian ideal. On the other hand, history teaches us that it is already hard enough to obtain true recognition of two cultures without throwing ourselves into a program which would tend to impose the equal rec- ognition of several cultures. Between the two extremes there are several roads which it is our duty to explore dur- ing this period of research and re-evaluation which we are all experiencing. -- Claute Ryan (Oct. 6) Quebec le Soleil--La Fed- eration des Jeunes Chambres du Canada Francais and the Canadian Junior Chamber of Commerce have settled their differences, The reconciliation ; . ends a two-year split which was marked by use- lessly provocative statements and deplorable sectarianism. As the national junior cham- ber declared at its annual meeting in Halifax in 1963, it recognizes again, and per- haps more precisely, the equality of the two national groups within the junior cham- ber was to be translated into concrete actions. To this end, the French and English branches of the group formed a joint committee charged with developing a_ single group. Among other proposals, there is the matter of an ex- ecutive vice-president belong- ing to one of the two cultures succeeding a president of the other culture. Alternating French- and English-speaking presidents at the head of the national junior chamber is an excellent step of the kind to illustrate the character of this country. If the national.junior chamber really took this road . it would give other Cana- dian groups an example to imitate which would illustrate acknowledgement of the na- tion's bicultural nature. ... (Oct. 5) Sherbrooke La 'Trihune--- The United Nations' popula- tion year book has some im- pressive figures-on-world-pop- ulation growth In one generation--1930 'o 1943--the world's population has increased by a third to reach a total of 3,160,000,000. And the greatest increase, as > has been noted before, was in the region where poverty and illiteracy are most wide- spread, Asia. Asia alone fur- nished more than half the new population The year hook points that in the first three of the '60s the world popula- tion grew by 170,000,000, or out vears The birth rate of, Europe has risen in recent years, but in Mali it is up to 62 births for 1,000 inhabitants, and a declining infant mortality rate also contributes to increases in the population. The year book reveals, too, that the rate of marriages is falling everywhere but in, the United States, Canada and Europe. Then there is the fact that women live longer than men, with 73 the average age, except in four countries: Cam- bodia, Ceylon, Upper Volta and India. In India the aver- age male age at death is 42 and the average woman dies at 40, The demographic explosion has pushed the number of cit- - ies with more than 3,000,000 population from six in 1950 to 16 today. Tokyo, New York, Shanghai, Moscow, Chicago and London were already in the category; now Bombay, --Peking, Cairo, Rio de Janeiro, -- Tientsin, Leningrad, Sao Paulo, Osaka, Mexico City and. Calcutta--_h-a-y-e--joined them. Paris proper comes néxt with 2,790,000, This. gigantic population pressure throughout the world, especially in the poor countries, makes understand- able the growing popularity in certain responsible circles of the doctrine favoring birth control and limitation. These problems become terrible as it becomes clearer that all the zood will in the world and all the wealth of the fortunate lands could never feed those now dying of hunger, (Qct. 7) nd CANADA'S STORY iat aM tt NNT Quebec Saved By Bluff By BOB BOWMAN When Count Frontenac was sent back to Canada in 1689 to be Governor for the second time, his instructions were to try to regain the support of the Indians. They had been showing signs of favoring the British colonies to the south, Frontenac organized a num- ber of attacks on the British settlements in New England, and these impressed the Indians that France was far from being beaten. However, the New En- gland colonies decided to hit back by capturing Quebec and Montreal. The attack on Quebec was entrusted to William Phips, youngest member of a family of 2 born in poor circumstances William had succeeded in find- ing 34 tons of gold and silver in a sunken Spanish ship. off the Bahamas, and progressed to be- vt NMR TODAY IN HISTORY By THE CANADIAN PRESS Oct. 16, 1965". . John Brown led a party of 13 white men and five Ne- groes in a raid on a federal arsenal at Harper's Ferry, Va., (now West Va.) 106 years ago tonight--in 1859 --in order to seize arms for his _dream_--_of _a--mountain stronghold: in which escaped slaves might defend them- selyes. The following day he and nine others were cap- tured and seven killed by U.S. marines commanded by Robert E. Lee, Brown was hanged Dec. 2 for treason, conspiracy and murder. His action was that of a fanatic and did not af- fect the politics of slavery much, except for providing the great marching song, John Brown's Body. 1555--Bishops Latimer and Ridley were burned at the stake. 1759--The third Eddystone lighthouse went into opera- tion, First World War Fifty years ago today--in 1915--France declared war on Bulgaria; British subma- rines sank five German transports in the Baltic Sea; Italian forces advanced on the western' shore of Lake Garda. Second World War Twenty-five years ago to- day--in 1949--Anthony Eden flew to Egypt to discuss the defence of Egypt with Gen- eral Wavell; HMS Liverpool was announced damaged by aircraft torpedoes in the -- Mediterranean; Western Un- ion cable service from New York-to London was broken off for nine hours; Brig. FE W. Sansom was promoted major general and ap- pointed to command the 3rd Canadian Division. Oct. 17, 1965 . . « First World War Fifty years ago today--in 1915---Britain offered Cyprus to Greece in return for sup- port of Serbia against 'Bul- garia the Bulgarian ad vance captured Egri - Pa- lanka and cut the Nish-Us- kub railway near Vrania. come Governor of Massa- chusetts, FLEET FROM BOSTON He sailed from Boston with a fleet of 34 ships and 2,300 men. On October 16, 1690, they were off Quebec, and Phips sent a young officer ashore to demand Frontenac's surrender. The young officer was blindfolded, and taken on a long route march before he was admitted to Fron- tenac's presence. When he pre- sented Phips' demands, Fronte- nac turned them down imme- diately and had. the officer marched back to his ship again, Although Frontenac's position was weak, he suspected that Phips did not have the experi- ence to conduct a_ successful attack. There was some fight- ing for a few days, but, as Fron- tenac had expected, Phips' at- tack was badly organized, and successfully beaten off. Quebec remained a stronghold of France until Wolfe captured it 68 years later. OTHER EVENTS ON OCT. 16: 1679--Quebec Council prohibited liquor being taken to In- dian villages 1738--La Verendrye sent mis- sion to find western sea 1820--Cape Breton returned to Nova Scotia (proclama- tion October 9) 1869--Joseph Howe left Red River after fact finding expedition 1907--Macdonald College opened 1911-Winnipeg got electric power 1914--First contingent Canadian troops landed at Plymouth 1917--Canada and U.S, made reciprocal trade agree- ment, MORE IN ONT. DISSATISFIED WITH DIEFENBAKER ROLE By THE CANADIAN INSTITUTE OF PUBLIC OPINION (World. Copyright Reserved) Opposition leader John Diefenbacker's popularity con- tinues to decline before the court of public opinion. Today, 29 per cent of the voters say they are satisfied with his performance; 44 per cent are dissatisfied, Just after the 1962 election, when Mr. Diefenbaker was Prime Minister of a minority government, 37-per cent ap- proved of his leadership and 41 per cent disapproved, I t is in the western provinces that the greatest num- ber (36 per cent) express satisfaction, although even in that part of the country more (45 per cent) are dissatisfied than Satisfied. Only 19 per cent cannot offer an opinion on the Opposition leader's performance, whereas in Quebec and the Maritimes 35 per cent are, undecided at this stage in the election campaign. ' Almost. half the voters in Ontario claim they are not Satisfied with Mr. Diefenbaker's leadership. The question; Are you satisfied or disatisfied with Mr. Diefenbaker as leader of the Opposition?" ' tenn greet Tt is in the western provinces that the greatest num- Maritimes, National Satisfied ....se00.. 29% Dissatisfied « 44 No opinion ...+e0+. 27 100%, en a a a Quebec 100%, Ontario West 27% 27%, 36% 38 49 45 35 24 19 100%, 100% Viet Authorities Move Firmly On Hotbed Of Tribal Agitation BAN ME THUOT, Viet Nam (AP) -- Vietnamese authorities are becoming impatient with the mountain peoples of the central plateau Who want their own autonomous state, "We had put up with a lot lately,' the Vietnamese officer said. "This was the time to 4 Shad The acts were firm and swift. armor support surrounded the special forces camp. of Uon Brieng, long a hotbed of tribal agitation. "You can go back to your vil- lages, join the regional forces or become regular soldiers," the 500 Rhade tribesmen inside the camp were told "But whatever you decide, leave your weapons behind." The tribesmen complied, and the 12 American special forces men in the camp with them rounded up weapons and other gear The camp, established fhree years' ago, was then destroyed hy Vietnamese engineers. Farther south, a Vietnamese marine task force inched to- ward a village occupied by nearly 400 well armed Rhade tribesmen. It looked as though a fight would start, but the tribal chief stepped forward and surrendered. These were the latest moves in an ages-long dispute between mountain tribesmen, READERS» WRITE... WELFARE OF DOGS Mr, Editor: I am instructed by the Osh- awa Dog Obedience Association to write and submit the follow- ing points to your attention and to that of your readers. ' The Association feels that when regulations in relation to the welfare of dogs are under consideration, the members of vised ip consult Uasie eee vis consu! jose y interested and knowledgable in Vv problems connected with logs. : The Oshawa Obedience Asso- ciation has handled an ave! of ninety dogs per year for the last twelve years. The of its directors has never been sought and it wonders who does give advice to the Council on such an important question, Im- portant from a financial point of view, considering the inconte from dog licences, as: well- as from the point of view of the " and its owner. he Association is heartily in accord with the year round con- trol law, but it finds the condi- tions imposed to be unrealistic and needlessly severe on trained dogs. It is readily admitted that not all dogs are trained. Is that a good reason to stipulate that a dependable dog who will come immediately on command, should be penalized and never allowed a brisk run under his owner's supervision? There are many such trained dogs, with paid licences, living within the city limits. A dog being trained on a long line to heel or come to its mas- ter, or even competing in an obedience trial, is contravening the bylaw. The Oshawa Obedience Asso- ciation does not consist of a group of "dog fanatics'. It sim- ply has the interests of dogs and their owners at heart. It does not consider the plight of either dog or owner in these modern times to be a subject for levity. Rather it feels that this is a serious problem which can be solved with mutual good sense and good will. The Association appreciates the things that are done for ani- mal welfare in the city, but it also feels that the dog owners paying taxes and licence fees deserve more careful, serious and well informed consideration and legislation. Yours faithfully, DOROTHY M. GROSART, Club Secretary. DEBATE DEBATED Mr. Editor: It was with wonder to say the least that I read Mr. Starr's answer to a challenge of de- bate by Mr. 0. Hodges, federal candidate for the New Demo- crats. When he stated "he would not draw a crowd for the bengfikic . of the opposition" one does real- ly wonder if this is the real rea- son. Only a man who is taking his popularity for granted would make this statement. The time is long past that the working man takes no interest in politics. On the contrary he knows and keeps up with poli- tical activity not only at elec. tion time but also takes an ace tive part between elections. He wants the best man as his re- presentative in Ottawa. He will ask questions and he will demand good, thorough an- swers. There wil be no hedging or questions answered by ques- tions; . As the other candidates are agreeable to open debate, Mr. Starr might better reconsider his stand. As a member elect, can he really disregard the pub- lic right to hear all candidates in debate and be able to ques- tion and compare their answers. Or can it be Mr. Starr is not too sure of himself, the publie wonders if he has the right an- swers, Or, if put against the an- swers of the opposition he would fall short in open debate. Yours truly, MRS. MARIE BROOKS Whitby, Ont. 'YEARS AGO 25 YEARS AGO October 16, 1940 Dr. Horace Bascom of Whitby, was presented with the 50-year veteran's jewel, having been a member of the Masonic. Order for 60 years. 49 YEARS AGO October 16, 1925 Mrs. A. J. Stalter of Oshawa, was elected treasurer at the 48th provincial convention of the Women's Christian Temperance Union in Pembroke. Special Thanksgiving services were conducted in city churches by Rev. C. R. dePencier (St. George's Anglican), Rev. F, J. Maxwell (St. Andrew's Presby- terian), Rev. R. A. Whattam (Albert St.), Rev. John Galt (First Baptist), Rev. A. C, .Reeves (Knox Presbyterian), Rev. 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