i a i a ta ali sal ascetic ate Mal ial aati ONTARIO RIDING OLIVER HODGES ", .. the revelations shocked you all" AT POLITICAL FORUM 'Adult Alternative To Bickering', Says Hodges could be one of the finest parks in Canada," he said. 'Federal money is. needed here for water- front development." Automation can, and will be, a blessing with a plan, Mr. Hodges said. "But we don't even know our manpower resources," he said, Oliver Hodges, New Demo cratic Party candidate, held up a copy of the Dorion Report. "T"m sure the revelations in here shocked you all," he said. "This is one of the most shock- ing things that can happen in a democracy. One wonders why these things happen at all." CANDIDATES HAVE THEIR SAY AT JAYCEE FORUM Robert Thompson, leader ofi the Creditiste-discredited Social Credit party, is the only party leader capable of leading a gov- ernment at the present time. This is the considered opinion of Dr. James Edward Rundle, Independent candidate in the Nov. 8 federal election. Last night .at the Jaycees' political forum in Hotel Gen- osha, Dr. Rundle repeated his assertion that this is an "'oppor- advocating such & study. He said education should be free "for all with the minds to absorb it." PC, Grit Rooms Hit By Pickets Pickets paraded in front of the committee rooms on Mon- day of the Liberal and Pro- gressive Conservative candi- dates in Oshawa asking for a fair deal for striking printers in Toronto. "How do you feel about the Toronto __ news; _. strike?" was the slogan carried on pla- cards by the four pickets, mem- bers of the Toronto Mailers Union No, 5. The local mem- bers are on strike in support of the Toronto Typographical Union, Local 91, which struck the three Toronto dailies July 9 last year. Mr. Hodges said Canada has been governed for 98 years by the old parties. 'CONSTANT QUARRELING' "They have lived together for so long, amid constant quarrel- ing. Promises. We have had lots of them. The Liberals promised Medicare in 1919. "Now there is an adult alter- native -- the NDP which gives performance instead of prom- ises. "Our platform is made by thousands of people meeting to- gether across the country, and| at provincial and federal ses- sions. It has a great, broad base," he said. Mr. Hodges said a federal) government should aid economic ' expansion by putting in serviced lots for new homes and bringing down the interest rate to three percent. He said Oshawa's harbor area should be developed for industry and recreation. "This city has a beach which | Medicare Hottest Issue Raised At Jaycee Forum most of the provinces are Sset- ting up their own plans? "Not most of the provinces," corrected Dr. Vipond. "Just a few. The federal government is anxious to participate. Portabil- ity across the country is impor- tant. Also, the same standards of coverage should be available " | Medicare was one of the hot- test topics debated by the four candidates in the November 8 federal election -- two of them médical practitioners. Dr. James Edward Rundle, In- dependent candidate in Ontario Riding, called the Medicare views of fellow doctor-candidate Claude H. Vipond "radical and almost Communistic". Dr. Rundle said what is need- ed for a Medicare program is "maximum coverage with min- imal (that is, government) in- terference"'. Dr. Rundle said later in an in- terview he used the term "Com- munistic" because he feels Dr. Vipond (Liberal candidate here) "ig more interested in making political hay out of the Medicare issue and less interested in the position of doctors and the wel- fare of patients". Communism is not generally interested in individuals, Dr. Rundle said, adding: "His bro-| .nout Medicare chure (sent to all doctors here)) «y favor it," he said. "It was is a mass of generalizations andi}. Conservatives who appoint- not what he really believes." 'eq the Hall Commission (Jus- 'OFFERED NOMINATION' tice Emmett C. Hall) to bring jin a report. The first part was Dr. Rundle also revealed he/goq ' pages. There are many dif- was offered the federal Liberal neules to be ironed out." Dr. Vipond said Quebec is involved in Medicare. 'A plan has been worked out and the federal government is prepared to help other provinces meet the demands of Medicare." In reply to another question, Dr. Vipond said Saskatchewan doctors didn't reject that prov- ince's Medicare plan "'holus- bolus". He said the Canadian Medical | Association didn't like "three or four things" but it is okay now. Conservative candidate Mi- chael Starr, who has held On- tario Riding for 13 years through six elections, was asked nomination here months ago". In the forum question' period, | Dr. Rundle said the Medicare) More Dump Land program has to be compulsory) Sought By City "Jt provides mental and phy-| Oshawa is running short of sical insurance for all and|dump land, everyone should be compelled to} City council last night agreed take part," he said. to ask the Township of East Also in the question period,|Whitby to pass a bylaw to con- Dr. Vipond pointed out that|/sent to the acquisition by. the "our (the Liberal's) Medicare|city of a 4.47 acre parcel 'of plan preserves the doctor-jtownship land between Simcoe patient relationship, the patient|and Ritson just north of the city can pick his own doctor or he| boundary, required for an exten- can go outside the plan, the doc-| sion of the sanitary land fill site. tor can practice outside the plan| If East Whitby passes a con- -- and this puts it outside the|sent bylaw, the city will expro- Communist label."' priate lands owned by Mr. and He said $15,000,000 has been|Mrs. Fred Conlin, including the allocated to train medical per-|township parcel. The land has sonnel. He sais the plan will ap-|been used as a gravel pit. ply to all Canadians, regard-| The dump site between Simcoe less of financial need, by July 1,|and Ritson rd. n., was filled 1967. earlier this year and the city Dr. Vipond was asked whyjhas been excavating and dump- the Canadian government is set-jing on a former landfill site on ting up @ Medicare plan when the east side of the road. tunistic election" called by Prime Minister Pearson. Dr. Rundle predicted Mr. Pearson will step down only if his party wins a majority "'to avoid fragmentation of the party"'. HEAD OF UNIVERSITY "He has been offered a posi- tion as head of a university, and also one as a permanent repre- sentative to the United Na- tions," Dr. Rundle claimed in an interview later. In his 10-minute talk, Dr. Rundle predicted another minor- ity government would be return- ed "and this one the most shat- tered yet". He said that if most of the Independents running are elect- ed "they. will be the tail that wags the dog and the only way the country could be run other- wise would be by a Liberal-| Conservative coalition'. | Dr. Rundle agreed this would never happen. He said his aim in running as an Independent is to force a re- turn to the two-party system and stop politicking "which has as its main aim the party and not the people". | | Dr. Rundle, who filed his nomination papers Saturday "to} show my sincerity', said his| aim is not to split the Con-| servative vote in the Riding. "There has been little to) choose between the two major| parties in recent years," he lsaid. "Mr. Diefenbaker is excel- lent-as leader of the Opposition. "Mr. Pearson is a statesman, not a leader. He has been com- promising through many crises. This may be a good inter- national approach; it is not good here at home." Dr. Rundle said the Liberals can't take: credit for the present prosperity. "It is parallel to that in the United States. More credit is due the Diefendollar (92.5 cents to $1 American). "The Liberals look progress- | | DR. JAMES E. RUNDLE «, . . we will be the tail that wags the dog" Socred Leader Only One Fit For Leader: Rundle vely worse with their compro- mising,"' Dr. Rundle claimed. "The Prime Minister retained Walter Gordon when his budget (subsequently revised) would have disgraced a Grade 13 stu- dent. "When (Guy) Favreau's in- tegrity was questioned, he was retained in the Cabinet. "And the scandals increase, side-stepped only by this oppor- tunistic election." Dr. Rundle said if elected he would support legislation which would restore democracy to the people and stop politicking for the party, and which would re- store individual rights. He said he would support leg- 1 lislation to decentralize federa' power and restore Canadian unity, He suggested municipal- provincial - federal conferences to obtain the latter. Dr. Rundle said we need leg- islation to keep Canada neutral in respect to armaments and said he would support United Nations policing. '"'to this extent'. "J would support legislation to prevent Canada from. becoming a U.S. satellite, to maintain our independence," he said. "And I would support any legislation to restore integrity to the federal government." Dr. Rundle said he would also back legislation which would minimize federal-provincial con- ditions of grants to municipal- ities to prevent them (the mu- nicipalities) from over-spending. "] would also support any leg- islation to adjust the following to the cost of living: old age pensions, disability pensions, baby bonuses, family allow- ances and students' allowances. "If these student allowances were extended to the university level (to graduation); this would encourage students to stay in school," he said. BARRIERS FALL MONTREAL (CP) Ideo- logical and political barriers be- tween Canada and Russia are slowly dissolving, Prof. John G. Nicholson, chairman of McGill University's Russian depart- ment, said Saturday. "There are no major differences be- tween the Russian and Cana- dian systems of education," he said in an address on the cam- pus. | | | A General Printers Ltd., low urniture. was itender for office f | by city coun-| rejected last night cil. Instead, as it did in August,) contract to the T. Eaton Co. Ltd., which submitted the sec- ond lowest tender. The vote last!| night was 7-4. The difference in tender prices was $78.26. The General Print- ers tender was $4,944.88 and the) Eaton tender, $5,023.14. In August this year council) accepted an Eaton's tender for| office furniture which was $143) higher than a General Printers) tender. | Gay, Margaret Shaw, Alice Reardon, Christine Thomas, Clif- ford Pilkey and Norman Down and Cecil Bint voted in favor of Ald. Bint's motion that the Ea- ton's tender be accepted. | Opposing were Mayor Lyman) Gifford and aldermen Alex Shes- towsky, Richard Donald and G don Attersley. Absent were Ald. John Brady and Ald. Hayward Murdoch. All members except Ald. Down voted as they did in. Au- gust. After the meeting he said he had "no comment" on his vote, Printing Compa Vetoed Again By Council Last night, aldermen Cephas vg ny Tender In August the vote was 7-5 in favor of the Eaton's tender with Ald. Attersley absent. Ald. Mur- doch in August voted against the Eaton's tender and Ald. council awarded the furniture|Brady in August voted in favor.) Although there was no discus- sion on the tender motion when it was introduced, Ald. Shaw later in the meeting question- ed two accounts of $401 and $20 which were paid to General Printers. She asked if council had de- cided on any policy about buy- ing from strike-bound firms. Ald. Clifford Pilkey said coun- cil had not set a policy but "I m sure council will be asked in future to set a policy'. The, Oshawa and District La- bor Council at its last meeting agreed to ask council if it had a policy regarding purchases from strike-bound firms. Mayor Gifford said tenders are not called on any purchase un- der $1,000. He said most of the furniture in the tender last night was for the engineering department but that a desk for the clerk's department was also included because it was felt the city could get a better price by including it in a larg- er tender, seca site SM a OTS AS MN MICHAEL STARR «... the aged have been neglected" Honesty, Integrity Are The Issues, Says Starr Conservative Michael Starr|Department of Youth; NHA mor- said the issue now is honesty|agages for older homes. d integrity "The aged have been neglect- vas vole ed," Mr. Starr said. He said a "Our platform is unity in Can-|$100 a month old age pension is ada," he said at the Jaycees'|necessary. He said expansion of Forum, "We propose an open|foreign trade is needed because Confederation conference for of a $280,000,000 deficit. unity through equality, and the) He said the 75- per cent con- drawing up of a new Constitu-|struction grant program for vo- tion, if necessary." cational and technical schools, Mr. Starr said Conservatives brought in in 1961 ("when I was would delete the 11 per centjin") has deteriorated into '"'a sales tax and a similar tax on measured pause"'. production machinery. This would be changed by a He promised also; a deduc- Conservative government, he tion of up to $500 of municipal promised, 'because there is taxes on income tax; an_ in- nothing more important than crease in university grants from|the upgrading of our labor $2 to $5, the establishmene of a Ohe simes OSHAWA, ONTARIO, TUESDAY, OCTOBER 19, 1965 SET ALARM THURSDAY AM, YOU COULD SEE EXPLOSION A solar phenomenon will be visible here from 1 to 6 a.m. Thursday morning. Ikeya - Seki, a comet detected by two Japanese astron- omers Sept. 18, will make a hairpin loop around the sun in that period and scientists think one of two things could happen, Some think the comet -- which will be travelling at about 1,000,000 miles an hour by Wednesday night -- might collide with the sun and explode and others say it will swing past, perhaps breaking into several pieces from the gravitational force. If the comet, with its 10,000,000-mile-long tail, does survive it will head back in the direction from where it came toward the outer reaches of the solar system. For North American viewers it could be the brightest spectacle since the great comet of 1882, which broke into four pieces during its approach to the sun. There is a chance that local viewers will see the tail of the comet Wednesday night too as the sun goes down, but that depends on just how clear the skies are locally. At the time of the comet's closest approach to the sun it will appear about a fifth the size of the moon and be almost as bright. | | | Expense Account Breakdown Asked and earn $5,000 to $6,000 a year can't afford to paritcipate in conventions. He said he has attended only one convention in three years because he cannot afford to at- tend under the present setup. And he said Ald. John Brady, presently attending a week-long Fire Chiefs convention at Miami, has been on council about 10 years and has only at- tended a few conventions be- cause he couldn't afford to attend more. 'NEED POLICY' "Il'm not trying to vindicate Ald. Gay's account," said Ald. Pilkey. "It's about time council had a policy." Ald. Gay said during the meeting that he had sent a let- ter earlier in. the day to Frank Markson, city treasurer. He said after the meeting that he recommended in his letter that a policy on expenses be set. Three other aldermen also attended the housing conven- tion. Ald. Alice Reardon, who attended both days, did not stay overnight and had no travelling expense, submitted a $20 bill. Ald. Margaret Shaw, who at- tended both days, stayed over- night and drove Ald. Thomas, submitted a $49 expense bill. Ald. Thomas said after the meeting that she had not sub- mitted an expense bill but said it would be about $30 to $35, covering registration, hotel and out-of-pocket costs. Accounts, totalling $4,443,985, including Ald. Gays', were ap- proved for-'payment by council. | Ald. Cephas Gay was criti- \cized last night by Ald. Chris- tine Thomas for his expense account at a housing conven- jtion in Toronto last month. The brief, but lively discus- sion ended with members of council agreeing a policy on convention expenses should be set, Mayor Lyman Gifford said he has discussed the matter with the city treasurer and promised a policy by the first of next year. Ald. Thomas asked Ald. Gay to explain how he spent $75 at the convention. | Ald. Gay replied that the $75 was paid to him in advance and that he returned $35 because he was able to attend only one day of the two-day convention. | Ald. Thomas said Ald. Gay drove to and from the conven- tion with a city official and asked him to explain how he spent $40. 'NO DISCREPANCY' "There was a certain amount of miscellaneous expense," said Ald. Gay. '"'There was no dis- crepancy that I know of," He also said he had to pay for a breakfast and lunch and that by attending he had to forfeit a day's wages. Ald. Thomas said the conven- tion registration fee was $15 so if Ald. Gay had two meals they cost $25. "You went just a step too far,'. she said and suggested he return another $20. Ald. Clifford Pilkey said aldermen who work in industry DR. CLAUDE VIPOND «, .. nothing secret about pact" Herbert Flintoff that the motor- cycle club intends moving activities outside the County of Ontario before Dec. 1, 1965. "Police surveillance of the premises will continued, and, of course, if at any time evidence of law-breaking is observed, appropriate charges will laid," said the commission. Prepare For risis, Says Liberalism Has Wide '£0 Director _ Appeal, Says Vipond Liberal candidate Dr. Claude| H. Vipond said Liberal govern- ments over the past 65 years have produced great leaders and have made major contribu- tions to national unity. "Under Mr. Pearson, the forces which have tended to fragment the country have less- ened," he said at a Jaycee political forum. 'The threat of separatism has greatly abated. "The two Conservative ad- ministrations since 1930 have been disastrous, have lost us friends internationally. "Liberalism has a broad base, appeals to farmers, trade union- ists, senior citizens and ethnic groups. "Pfomises? We have (on our brochure) a list of 36 concrete achievements made in the last 29 months. "There has been greater pros- perity. The Gross National Product is up to $50,000,000,000, up over five and one-half per cent last year. Only 176,000 are out of work, less than three per Oshawa and Ontario County must formulate a plan to pro- vide for the continued function- cent, considered full employ-|ing of municipal government ment." and the necessary services of a Dr. Vipond said there are|municipality in the event of an three plants in this area hig emergency. built to handle auto parts for) Col. F. §. Wo the United States. And 50,000 to) County iierbiaes aioe 4 60,000 jobs will be created here|ganization co-ordinator, pointed in Canada by the auto pact. this out Monday night to city He said the Liberal govern-jcouncil. He was quoting the ment has produced an income/Emergency Measures Act of tax cut, a balanced budget,|Ontario. brought into being the Canadian Development Corporation "so eek oer Prssnreied = Canadians can invest in the de-|neads to review their peer phan of their OWNlilities as set out in the EMO Dr. Vipond listed these social ashe' cot Borer oy --_-- security benefits produced by|ten plan for their departments Liberal governments: uneM-|to operate under emergency con- ployment insurance, old agejditions, Council approved Col. pensions, fam -ly allowances,|wotton's request hospital insurance, portable| He also said an exercise will -- and Are age assistance.|pne held Wednesday: in which in immorality -in government, Dr. Vipond said all that had ee on cman been suggested at the forum incial was guilt by association, "'Mc- be yg -- Carthyism". No Milk Hike A jont committee of council and public and separate school board members was approved last night by- city council. Ald. Richard Donald _intro- duced a motion to establish the committee so that 'mutual problems and interests may be continually under review." As proposed by Ald. Donald and approved by council, the joint committee will be com- posed of two members of coun- cil, two members of the board of education and one member of the separate school board. It will meet on a regular schedule. CHAIRMEN NAMED Mayor Lyman Gifford ap- pointed the chairmen of coun- cil's parks, property (Ald. Hay- ward Murdoch) and finance (Ald. Gordon Attersley) com- mittees as council representa- tives. Later in the meeting Ald. Liaison Body Gets Nod; To Air Mutual: Problems "No Liberal Cabinet minister Planned Here and no Liberal organizer has been found guilty," he said, Milk companies in Oshawa don't plan on raising their re- tail prices before next year, although starting yesterday two firms in Toronto tacked another penny on a quart of milk. _ After an announcement of the increase by Borden Co, Ltd. and Dominion Dairies Ltd., both To- ronto, local milk company spokesmen said today they are not in any rush to take similar action. Generally, they thought a local increase might come some time early next year, but not before. Milk pricings here now range from 25 cents a quart of homog- enized milk to 17 cents for skim milk and 22 cents for butter- milk, all home-delivered. The boost by Dominion Dair- ies Ltd. will mean one change here -- in the price of sour cream sold by a Dominion Com- pany, Sani Seal Dairies Ltd., Toronto, But the rise in milk prices won't come into this area because the company does not have a licence to sell milk here, though it has sales rights the mayor appoint two alterna- tives was approved. E. A. Bassett, chairman of the board of education, said to- day his board would select two representatives at its next meeting. Separate school board members have not yet discussed the joint committee idea. Council and board of educa- tion members expressed inter- est in the joint committee at a meeting earlier this month. Ald. Donald originally suggested the committee at a planning board meeting last month. He said the committee could work to the henefit of everyone' and result in dollar savings. Ald. Donald said one of the' first items to be discussed by the committee could be the board of education's interest in a proposed subdivision at the northwest corner of Rossland Clifford Pilkey's motion that jand Wilson rds. on products. CAMPAIGN HO ROUNDUP The action in Toronto, in view of cost factors, means the milk there will now cost 27 Candidates in the Nov. 8 gen- eral election are getting into high gear with a round of forums, canvassing and coffee parties. Michael Starr, seeking re-elec- tion as Progressive Conserva- tive member for Ontario riding, was one of the four candidates who appeared Monday at a local political forum. He took off for a speaking tour of the West and is in Ed- monton today and tomorrow, On Thursday he will speak in Van- couver before his return to Osh- awa. Dr. Claude Vipond, the Lib- eral Party hopeful, began can- vassing this morning by meet- ing workers entering the GM South Plant: He then made for the West Rouge district for a day of canvassing, ~ coffee parties and receptions. VIPOND FOR TV A trip to Toronto is also scheduled today where Dr. Vi- pond will record a_ party political telecast. It will be screened. Wednesday -- coast-to- coast -- on CBC. Tomorrow Dr. Vipond will Hodges Files Papers; Starr's Off To West }soon. cents for a homogenized quart. The change is also being ap- plied to cheaper milk grades of skim and two per cent. Spokes- men say that the action by the two companies in Toronto is getting common across the country and it will eventually lead to price rises all over Canada. Other major dairies in To- ronto already have indicated standard bearer, Oliver Hodges, ie we ry nee | filed nomination papers thiS|or milk varies from 25 cents in morning at the Returning Offi- i cer's headquarters in Whitby. paving fet hing dd alles Mr. Hodges started off a busy day in the county town by meet- ing employees of Dunlop of Canada Ltd.; at the plant gate. A sige P7 the old folks at Fair- view dge is also on the schedule as well as door-to-door visits and coffee parties in the town. A coffee party in Myrtle, and a meeting with officials of the Canadian Union of Public Employees in Oshawa, will round off Mr. Hodges' day. The Independent candidate, Dr. J. E. Rundle, treated pa- tients at his surgery today. The opening day for his campaign headquarters will be announced other round of handshakes and coffee parties in Bay Ridges. The New Democratic Party Taxpayers Doing Fine: Treasurer Unpaid taxes to Sept. 30 total $513,000 of 4.34 percent of taxes collectible, compared with $508,- 000 or 4.75 percent for the same period last year. "This represents an increase of $5,000 in unpaid taxes but a decrease of .41 percent in col- lectible taxes over the same per- iod last year," said Frank Mark- son, city treasurer, in a report to city council this week. In another report, Mr. Mark- son informed council that 72 percent of the 1965 current bud- get has been spent or commit- ted up to Oct. 8. 4 Total budget is $13,779,000; ac- tual expenditures and committ- ments amount to $9,940,000; CANDIDATES AT FORUM The PC candidate in Durham Riding, Garnett Rickard, spoke Monday to the Cartwright PC Association. Today he is can- vassing in Port Hope and will appear at an all candidate forum at Pontypool, sponsored meet the workers at local plant gates before setting off for an- leaving $3,839,000 or 28 percent by the Durham County Farm- of the budget available. ers' Union.