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scitsieenseinnatsas Lew Hayman Wonders' Why Fans Keep Coming en IAC | SULLIVAN Canadian Press Sports Editor Hayman cans 52 A0y-is except to the men's and at his office walk over to his table in restau- It really doesn't bother him he'll talk football to 'anyone, anytime. He's been in '= business as coach, manag- g director, general manager, 'partner in teams since he came) to Canada from Syracuse Uni- i vauey in 1933 as a. 23-year-old. Of course, he has experienced Be ig ne years" since 1961 ith Argos. They made it to the 'rate Conference playoffs in 11960 and since then, says Lew, | "we've successively got worse." He wags his head in wonder- ment when he considers that scribers have declined only 2,000 or so since those heady 1960 days to a low of about 16,800 thie season. "And this, t00, y, with the worst club ima- ginable on the field," Hayman said in an interview this week. He has received about 30 let- ters this year, just half the number sent to him in 1964, DEMAND DISMISSALS Early this season, when Ar- gos were going nowhere fas' some letters said that Hayman should be fired, coach Bob Shaw should be fired and that the club on get rid of cer- tain playe' Later og 'after eight straight losses, Argos finally won a game and the letters took an- other twist. "Funny thing about it," says Lew, "at the start of the sea- son some people wrote and phoned to say why don't I stick my nose into the coaching dut- fes. Then, when we won a same or so and came close on a cou- lot of them blast me and the coach and some of the players and then come up with con- structive criticism, saying why don't you do tiiis or that. "Every letter with a name and address on it gets a reply." Argos have a won-lost record of 3-10 going into this Sunday's final game of the schedule at Hamilton. "If we put on any kind of a show against the Ti- ger-Cats, we might not lose very many subscribers next year. "The team now is beginning to jell and I think we can be a contender next year if we can mews on some positions." He declined to name the po sitions, saying "Let's leave this to the coach." Total attendance at the seven home Argo games this season is down about 25,000 over 1964. "In dollars, we're down about $100,000, but I think we'll end up in the black after we get our cut of the Eastern Confer- ple of others, I was told to keep my nose out of it." But he's happy to get letters | the club's season ticket sub- and phone calls. "You know, @ BOWLING MOTOR CITY l@ had one bowler with over that was Bill Smith who 13, 244). Oever 6 MacDonald 644 ( Over 600 -- Mac 1117), June Hill 626 Ga 201), Rudy ost | mick 621 (202, 3) Leo Gorman 606 (256, mm) bang! Don Wilson 603 (218). -- Ron McKeegan 256, Muriel ' rognick 248, Nina Wilson 248, Steve Roz- nick 23%, Joyce Taylor 223, Garry Perry 22, Kari Kenney 221, Joyce Ruff 213, * Don Wild 207, Ted Smith 208, Betty Mac- 700 and P. 204, George Felees oy ine' rants rid Ladies' high single -- C, Hill 268 Lemons -- Barb Smith 97, Bruce Simp-| Ladies' high triple -- N. Meinichuk 'a7 | son 97, Elaine Rines 96, Pearl McKeegan | (146, 258, 233), e 9, Jack Dodds 88, Ella Roznick 78, | Men's high single -- J. Montpetit 273. Dianne Noden 77, 45 and Morrice Ruff ony + ee --. J. Montpetit 689 " -- Spinners 11, Lucky Strikes 600 Bowlers -- B. Melnichuk 631 (211, Standi iW, mistite. 1, Go Go 10, Blue Birds 10, Screwballs 10, Doughheads 9% end Odd- balls 8. HARMAN PARK Ladies' High Single; V. Stanbury 271. Men's High Single: B. Meinichuk 284. Ladies' High Triple: T, Gow 642 (212, 233, 197). Men's "es Triple: B. Meinichuk 754 (284, 228, 600 and we -- D, Rukaruck 615 (198, 200 and over -- J. Montpetit 204, A. Robinson 243, A, Craddock 250, L. Kornic i. 219, $. Lawrence 202, 231, E, Ruka-| k 224, B. Taylor 219, G. beg ge ey Gow Sr, 225, F, Stansbury 260 and tpetit 202, bowled hig RESULTS [Temin 207, Norm Mooney i, 204, Fred | McKee 204, Harry Fave i, Ab. Burr) 201 and Peggy Branton 2 Standings -- Mscnlighters 21, Putters 8, | 20 Hebjois 19, Blimps 17, Kaymar 17, p| Norris: ' 17, Bluffers 16, Hideaways 15, Hi- |Lows 18 , Hasbeens 14, Frultcakes 14, Clip- | pers 13, "Lucky Thirteen 13 and X-Rays 13. HARMAN PARK LEAGUE Congratulations to the first section win- ners --- Bill Meinichuk, V, Stansbury, J. Montpetit, N. Brinkman, P. Taylor and M. Brown, 192, 228) 200 bowlers -- V. Stansbury 252, F. | Stansbury 205, M. Bosley 219, J. Melni- |ehuk 238, F. Montpetit 208, D, Gow 204, |&, Rukaruck 227, A, Robinson 251, 208, L. Kornic 200, J. Gow Jr. 211, G. Mac- igen 240, B. Duffin 216 and M, Carey i Lemons -- V. Stansbury 9%, P. Taylor? | 95 Ag Gow 77, P. Montpetit 92, J. Meini- ik 88, M, Denauit 84, D. Gow 87 and -" "Davis 89. | WEDNESDAY NIGHT LADIES | | 600 Games -- June Bird 608 (18), }213); jana Doris Bowen 600 (215, 176, P| 200 Games -- M. Harris ie F. Ptich-| | jard 225, B. Lean 214, 229; Cobbledick mons -- N. Brinkman 99, L. Kornie} 223, L. Worden 216, V, Dwell ey a] , N. Fa Sar 38, 81, M, Denault 85, D.|/A, Langley 207, &. Maxwell 207, J | . Gow 50 end P. Montpetit 58. Points -- Hot Bums 7, Lucky Strikes 0, isfits 0, The Sexy Set 7, Moonlighters 2, 3 5, The Lovers 4 and Curves 3. & ot» COUNTRY LeaGue "Points Taken -- Georgies 7, Skittles 0;) lanidcappers 5, Corner Pins 2; The Nuts} The Duffy's 2 and Rolling Stones 5, ar Bio gh eo 2. 200 --- Henry ley 715, Frank) liniey 202, Roy Mills 247, Keith Alder- 209, Bob Fredricks 208, 210, Marilyn inansmith 215, Ernie Mcilwraith 208, Ron rn 5 Marg Hall 203 and Stan rn 'Lemon League -- Barb Lioyd 81, Dave! Posten 97 and * Audrey Fredericks 94. = ORANGE LEAGUE S@ames of 200 and over -- Helen Mc- Fhe! Gerry Bickle 242, Ray Cooney Bernie Derry ar Bi Outs aes Bob Ellis 206, rit 7. elbert 20 "MeGilivery 211, 220, Hers Gill m, Paull rington 212, Alf Kern 228, Carol Mar- it 217, Yvonne Marshall 207, George 240, 206 and Bill Talbot 203. | Y Triples. over 600 -- Don (233, 203, 223), Jack Goodman 646 (231,/ 207), Eari ole? 623 (252, 185, 183), Marshall (221, 206, 175, Sam) ime 674 (224 a 284, 166 and Bob Poole) rod mins, 361, 261), * Lemon Leaguers -- Lovise Chambers) 95, Marg Coe 97, 83, Doris Derry 78, Lor- Engelbert 76, Barney Robbins 50, IN Stacey 80 and Vera Strong 96. Sta -- Winner of the first section, | in-Pickers 21; followed by Lucky Strikes Alley Cats 19, Blow Hearts 18, Try- irds 16, Spitfires 14, Strike-Outs 11 and intstones 9. ae ™ PLAZA FAMILY DOUBLES *" Over 600 -- Clare Hardsand 74) (316, )» Harold Nugent 729 (281, 277), Harry! $ 718 (286, 245), Fred Taylor 708 (314, ), Art Bryant 693 (241, 231, 221), Al Satan 669 (300, 209), Jim Morrison 44 (232, 223, 209), Bob Bryden 662 (236, 222), Madeline Morrison 661 (228, 219, 14), Ted Monaghan 661 (261, 235), Glen "Bwindells 659 (245, 220), Carman Barkley 488 (227, 220, 211), Jim Huxtable "a 4296), Lorraine Peebles 646 (268, 203), Ag gry 640 (229, 209, 202), Ray ranton 639 (226, 213, 200), Marg. urea (234, 214), wilt Anthony 633 (230, 229), J. Lesile 615 (219, 210), Joyce a 2p (228, 205) ene Art Tayior-612 Fisher | b Over 200 -- Hugh Hutcheson 256, Mil- dred Khmailone at, Bill Tonkin 235, Pat Hardsand 235, Norma Norris 232, Darla| @utkaluk 226, Dave Peebies 226, 202, jean, "Allin 225, Harold Creamer 221, Tom Rae "219, Bert Wight 214, Doug. Pelow 211, 204, Milde Mooney 210, we i) a4 Jack Mcintosh 208, Bruce 208, "206, "Teabell Creamer 207, An peril 207, Ethel ton 206, E. Lupton 204, C. Misztak 203 'onal B. Webster 201. Lemon League -- E. Maxwell 36, hed |R. Trowsse 94, K, Schneider 92, S. 4 Frieniere 90, 91, C. Atwell 88, S$, Fy 75) and H. Hoogstein 6), | Congratulations to "The Lucky Six",| ovr top team with 23 points. There ere} sith three more sections to be won, 0) keep trying Duncan 742 (223, 238,; Points Taken -- Flippers 12, Dippty| " 'and Joe Pinch 622 gd 186, 206, | Do' 's 14, The Ringos 6, Shindigs 21, Happy Gang 8, The Mice 18, and Dream- ers 10, MOTOR CITY MEN'S MAJOR "A" Group 1 -- Lucky Strikes -- nh Ristich 777 (281) and F. Major 713; chies -- R. Poole 783 (298); E. Ligealiiere 752 (275) and F .Hill 724 (280); Ozarks -- 0. | Keeler 950 (349, 335) and R, Bragg 812 (301); Bare - jal Bg 694 (279); Les Sabri rs 759 (294) and L. Sabins ind iy an spiliys -- S$. Himes 1S (275) and €, Jordan 714; Sports -- L. Arp 723 (274); Mick Mac's -- R. Hardie 797 (322) and H. Gillard 711. High Averages -- J. Cassells. 255, 0.| Keeler 254 and A, Perry 253. High Singles -- P. Knight 278; ©. Keel- ale 354 and ©. Keeler 354, | High Triples -- O, Keeler 950; H. Gil- lard 920 and A. Perry 893. Group.2 -- Blowers --- R. Davies 781) en G. Russell 732 (270) and $. Rogers! 720 (311); Cyclones -- A, Brown 732 (256)) and T, Stogwin 694 (289); Lucky Bees| \~ B. Strutt 759 (331); R. Wilson 666) (309) and V. Contin 684; Jets -- H, Clarke! 693 (269) and M, Childerhose 691 ett |Die Hearts -- M. MacPherson 820 (318 ., Pho gg 694 (289) and B. Sheddick | (263); Hope Fulls -- R. Cooney 805) Osis Ball Highs -- D.Cluciura 682 (265) and G. Taylor 658; Hi Balls -- H. Ballem 775 (288) and J, Strank ae High Averages Bishop 239, G, | High Singles -- G. Taylor 398, B, Web- |ster 393 and H, Ballem 348. High Triples -- H. Ballem 956, G. Tay: |lor 881 and D. Bishop 838. First Section Winners -- Group No, 1,) Lucky Strikes 15 points and Group No, 2 -- High Balls, 15 points. FRIDAY NIGHT INDUSTRIAL LEAGUE Points Taken Motor City 3, Playboys 0; Acadian 3, Pic-O-Mat 0; Dairy Queen dry Imperial 0 and Reynolds 2, Westmount High Triples D. Willams 731, D. Wotton 698, J. Hedger 675, G. Osborne 669, W. Helmecke 660, D. O'Brien 651, B Fisher 644, D, Solomon 642, P. Tompkin 642; Jv Bell 440, 4. Crantleld aaa. L Arn 637, B, Gallant '636, R. Smith 624, F. Lin- ley 606 and P. Cormier 600, Lemon League -- G. Stockwood 75, J Bailey 96, D, Jackson 91, K. Blakolmer 191, J, Sharp 90 and Cc, Linkietter as. Brenda Grennon 607 (219, lth wi H. Taylor and ty "jones. 2. ence and Grey Cup playoffs." GARNEY HENLEY GEORGE REED iiton Tiger-Cats, yesterday were named outstanding play- ers in the Western and Eastern football conferences. 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