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Home Newspaper of Hills Wednesday Novembers Page SOME VETERANS WONDER Is Remembrance really meaningless Nov 11 with all its try and proud traditions Is meaningless and ant to a great many of Canada younger citizens in the opinion of a number of Hal ton Kills veterans of two world wars Robert Stewart who left his horn near Acton to serve his country In adds hut Remembrance Day will die out once the World War II veterans are gone Do wo remember the sol diem from Waterloo he asks What makes us any more important than they It anyway World War he says The theme we heard over and over was that this was the war to end all wars Yet years later we turned around and did it all over again We t learned a thing Mike McGill first world war veteran from George town agrees that the cance of Nov li Is passing and also wonders If It is worth preserving The kids don want to hear about what we did or saw he says I don t know how we could make It mean them They re Just not Interested and I not sure we should try to Impress them with Nov Ha importance Mrs Henderson of Glen Williams was a child in England during the Second World War and later married a pilot She also feels that today generation ha no Interest In remembering past glories They I Interested In what we did They want to live their own lives We had to leam from our own mis takes and so do they All veterans agreed how ever that remembering Is important to them as Indiv duals Idant belive in living the post but year I like to go and talk over old times with others who shared similar experiences says Browne a WWII an from Mr Stewart says he never bothered with Remembrance Day all the years he lived away from Acton Then when he retired and came back he found he enjoyed attending the parade and the service Somebody always had to work Nov 11 so Id work and let the other men have the day to go to the parade I go the service now we re back in Acton The names on the mean something here The first name on the list In the furniture store window this week Is A And I knew Art He was kilted about SO yards away from me In France In 1918 Allison Henderson a member of the regular army stationed at Camp Borden feels that Remembrance Day means something to all the men and women in the Canadian Forces Brian Comber loin the son of WW1 veterans Pat and Dorothy Chamberlain feels that Remembrance Day Is a good Idea but need not be confined lo though la of those killed in battle Brian was In Vietnam and Germany with United Slates Army He says he was casually acquainted with half a dozen men who were killed In Vietnam during the 19 months he was there yet his memories on Rememb rance Day tend lo centre on civilian Mends he has lost through Illnesses and accld The idea of setting aside a day to remember friends lost Is good but it wauldn thavetobcNov 11 Brian says It could be any day Nov II just happens to be the one the government has picked Mrs Kay a George town woman with three sons in Canadian Forces feels that Remembrance Day is being neglected Giving school children the day off gives them no idea of what the holiday stands for she We dldn get Nov 11 off school she says We had two minutes silence during school and we were told what was all about Maybe they should go back to that idea because kids don t it these days Most parents are working Nov 11 so they don lake their kids to the parade and the kids won turn on the service from Ottawa when they re home atone The Long March Although Canadians were involved in World War 1 from Its early stages It was not always easy to recruit enough men to raise a bat talloa lor duty overseas When the 104th BaltalTon began looking for recruits in the fall of 1915 It was Then one of its founders Colonel Danville received permission for the battalion to march through Duffenn and Hal ton counties to find recruits The lMth were the only group lo do this and they needed special permission to get this concession Since Col Don lie was a brother Inlaw of Sir Sam Hughes the man at the head of the Canadian Army it waa easy to guess how the permission was granted says one of the men who marched with the battalion in Its recruiting bike from Camp Borden to in the fall or 1916 Dr Allen Buchanan a retired Acton dentist remembers leaving school in Grand Valley as soon as he turned 18 and going Camp Borden join the lMth Battalion They needed men to form a battalion and there was only to TOO men on the march It took them IB days They usually rested up a day at each town they topped In Most of time were bedded down in churches Dr Buchanan says they were given chicken dinners in Orange lie and and when the call for food went out in Erin after their arrival they got over 200 pies Their stops were Shelburne Grand Valley Orangeville Alton Erin Georgetown Acton Milton Burlington and They spent the winter of 17 in the Barracks in Hamilton The 204th Battalion was broken up during the winter and some of its men rilled up the llh ranks In April 1917 the battalion left Halifax aboard the Carpalhia a ship that was recognized in those days because It was the first one to reach the Titanic Buchanan was a signaller during WW1 He pent nearly a year in England before he was posted the 102 North British Columbia Battalion and went to France His I major engagement was he Battle of Amiens That was the last time the cavalry was used he gays They found a train bringing In reinforcements to the Germans and they sent the cavalry up the line and shot them as they were coming off the train He gat a piece of shrapnel In his left arm in September and was shipped to hospital In England He was fit again and on the parade ground ready to leave for France when word came through that the war was over We took our own leave and headed for London then he chuckles I never did get lo bed that night He began his dental training in 1919 and spent the Second World War In Ihe Royal Canadian Dental Conn Id never have enlisted Id known 1 couldn get overseas he says Since he was over age to go overseas hi settled for an administration course and ran dental clinics In Toronto and later in Winnipeg Robert Stewart another Acton man who was on the Borden to march with the lMth Battalion enlisted in January 1916 He was only IS at the time Ho joined the Boy Bugle Band In Milton and was sent from there to Then tbey were sent to Camp Borden to cut trees and clear the ground for the base Dr Buchanan and Mr Stewart can both remember Camp Borden as a city of bell tents with two big water towers and a railway siding near by They say there were about 10 men In the camp in 1916 Mr Stewart went to France with the 116th Bat tali on in January 1918 Prior to that he had been asked if he d care to join the band because word had gol around that he could play the bugle I told them no he said I enlisted to be a soldier and 1 going to carry a rifle Boy did I regret that when the big shells started flying around he gnns Mr Stewart won he Military Medal at the battle of Cambrai It was the last big of the war he says He was one of three men left to guard about a dozen wounded men Their senior officer promised to send a rescue party but when he did not arrive two days later Mr Stewart sergeant or him to spike their gun and go for help If they had dared to return the German fire that was falling all around them the enemy would have been able to locate them and they d all have died The three armed men mode it back to their com and each earned the Military Medal because they carried a wounded com panion along with them The wounded men they left behind were captured They survived however and the sergeant raised so much fuss over theorricer neglect that the man was demoted Mr Stewart says When he arrived back Canadian headquarters two surprises were waiting for Mr The Prince of Wales was visiting Canadians on a tour of the forces and ihe com manning officer had found out his age It seems his older brother had nagged his mother into going Queen a Park with proof of his age and demands that he be Bent home because he was too young Mr Stewart was sent to a Young Boys Battalion at a camp in Wales to wait until he turned IB and could go back the front While he was the camp he took part In a riot at a local dance It seems that boys from the camp had gone to the dance and were giving soldiers from the regular British army unit stationed nearby such a lot of com petition For local girls that the older men threw the Some of the young men returned to camp for rein or cements and about 1 of the 1 2000 boys in the camp returned to the dance with They tore ihe place Mr Stewart says and the authorities had to call In a unit of Young Boys with fixed bayonets to try to stop them They wire scared he says and looking back he feels sorry tor them could hove taken Ihcir guns away from them he says because most of us had been to the front and we knew how But they I any experience and they didn t want to hurl us The Canadian camp author check midnight and everyone who had been to the riot forfeited a month pay he says When WW II broke out Mr Stewart enlisted This time he spent his service supervising construction of new telephone lines in Newfoundland Nova Scotia and New Jim Yates says that when he Georgetown early In 1942 to Join the navy he enlisted because it was what everyone was doing He found himself facing the some problem other icemen faced and boredom drove him to asking for transfer tliat got him off a quiet job Into something Jim began his service as a radar operation on board HMCS Baddeck a mineswe eper plying between Victoria and Dutch Harbour Alaska During the five months he was on it the only event he recalls was picking up vors off a Russian transport vessel that sank When he was drafted to a corvette the the Indian word for Flying Goose his ship plus four Enlisting was the thing to do other corvettes and a destro yer were escort vessels for convoys crossing the North Atlantic There were lo ves sels In each convoy he soys and crossing took IS or 17 days depending on the route Weather claimed nearly as many ships as the enemy did he says He remembers caught by the tall end of a hurricane miles south east of Newfoundland in 1943 They made crossing wllh smashed turrets and no lifeboats or Co die floats but two other escort vessels had to turn back to have damage repaired and rive Liberty ships were lost In that storm After Jim had made three crossings on the the ship was loaned lo the Royal Navy and he spent months In the English Channel and thi North Sea At the end of the war Ihe Outarde had the longest overseas service re cord for any Canadian cor velte The ship was scrapped In July 1W5 The Outarde was one of the ships that took part in Jim says they were well warned about being sure that they wore some part of their uniform had their identified tion in some waterproof wrapping in their wallets and wore iheir when they headed for Normandy They must bo able id en tify themselves as enlisted men just In case ihey were forced to abandon ship be cause if Ihey hod been cough in Ihe casual gear they nor molly wore aboard ship ihey could have been accused as spies and shot by Ger North Atlantic they picked up a ship on radar that t identify They sent a request for identification three times be fore they threatened to open fire if they got no answer The answer came back final ly saying it was a British battleship and encouraging to carry on Canada w th your gallant ship FRIEND FROM FOE By SYLVIA VINCENT In peace I gently walked the earth I not been first to strike a blow But when post bloodshed found rebirth I had no choice In war but go Out there at night in cold damp sod The bloody stench of death was nigh Instinctively I turned to God In time of need He heard my cry For then one night in that hell place Tormented yes each poised to flee My foe and I came face to face I couldn shoot yet nor could he Since then I tried in life unfold To look upon all men as friend Remembering horrors still untold It not been easy so to bend But with God s help in daily prayer Anger and hate became outcast True understanding grew from fear Now peace within is mine at last Stories By Maggie Hannah Herald staff writer Mare Stories Page toy Free Creative Playthings STETHOSCOPE LAST WEEKS WINNER Kay Georgetown A SPECIAL HERALD FEATURE Looking for Fait Sales Action USE HERALD CLASSIFIEDS 8772201 Its a time to remember humor Tom is a World War veteran who served in the British Army He married a Canadian girl in l42 but they arrive in Canada until He freely admits that the painful memories have been packed away and any stories he are about the funny things he and his males had to endure Tom began soldiering before the war was declared in 1839 The government decided to begin preparing for war earlier in the year and loco militia groups were formed all over Britain he says He enlisted with the Royal Artillery They drilled it was pretty useless because they had no guns to practise We pretended to move the guns around and load he grins One night one of the fellows suddenly started hopping up and down holding his foot He d been loading the gun and he figured if he could pretend load a make believe gun he could pretend to drop a make believe shell on his foot When the officer asked him what was wrong he explained and asked to go to the first old people The officer went along with the make believe and sent him to make believe first aid station out in the middle of a field and he was stuck there for a couple of hours When war actually broke out they equipment and ihe fooling around stopped But not the boredom At one point early In the war Tom says he was so bored he volunteered for a Job that was supposed to get him to the front II fell through but he only found out when it was called off that had he gone he d have wound up In Finland fighting the Russians He recalls a British turncoat who went lo Germany and to broadcast German propaganda back to Britain He tell the Br how badly Ihey were doing and how well the were doing The British called him Lord Ha Ha he says but he no longer remembers what his proper Once he broadcast about how Germany had destroyed Saltly Docks In a bombing raid on Birmingham Since Bir is not on the coast Tom says he was quite put about the docks until he found a member of his com pany who was a Birmingham native and could explain that Saltly Docks was the local nickname for the sewage II sounded pretty presslve you found out the truth he chuckles Boredom drove him to volunteering again in early 1942 and hla males ex peeled to wind up in North Africa Not so It lurncd out to be Hong Kong but the city fell before their arrival so Ihey went to Ceylong Instead with Ihe 14th British Army the forgotten army They weren needed in Ceylon either when Ihey arrived so they got sent on to Bombay While they were in however their commanding officer decided to take for a route march to keep them busy while they wailed Ik They looked awful Scared the hell out us all he grins At one point he was stationed north of Asam Women carried water from a stream up a hill and poured It into a reservoir on the top he says This was the camp water supply and Ihe women worked at main toinlng it all day every day He was with a youngster in the camp one day and at one point held him over the water pretending he was going to dunk him A fearful broke out and the boy ran away He discovered lo his horror that the natives thought he had lei the boy the water and because he was an touchable Ihe reservoir was now polluted In their eyes and had lo be drained He was going to be charged with paying women to refill it he says only he was trail erred inside a week of the incident When Japan surrendered he found he get home unlll all the prisoners of war had gone unless he leered for fatigues on a hospital ship The hardest pari of the whole trip home was seeing the men gelling Dear John letters when their moll started catching up with them after all those months In prison camp he says 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