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what if einstein newton had been discouraged dear sir i jk tetter to the editor from bint gold up in list weeks he- raid theres an old saying if youjtih could and adults would i tm a topical seventeen year w jtadnh wbfi woulii uke to 0et something off bis dhest in your letter you referred to jim ejeertonaa a child and wwby6also wanted tilm to atop clamouring for us to 1u tea to your ideas i just thank god that ifap codarvale board ifidnt heed your advice bfc- causer of jims j w ilow lave a rottee house ua our- telve in cedarvate you asked what we could do there thai we couldn do in the hiob school church lib- try arena or pool in the high school we are told wbat classes to attend where to sit and what to do we may not talk smoke chew gum or tjook outside- the window dur ing spares we must a u in col- ilthree f eet aparttrom each other and maintain com plete silence while concentrat ing on our studies n th school library wo may not talk to one another or make any iioisea whatsoever is this the place for us to relzt3 our ideas toourfncndj7 the arena surely isnt the place for on to nit down with a friend to pby cards discuss things or to htvo a game of ehsss and how alien do par ents invite us to their homes so that the two generations can find out something about each other not often enough in the coffee house we can sit don and communicate with old and newly made friends instead of sitting in front of the boobtube at home we can discuss life and the world around us as you prob ably used to do hofore televi sion was invented perhaps this sort ol understanding of human values will aid us in the future i agree tlat we are- often too idcajuic or unpractical but to say tjiat our ideas arcnfc worth a damn is utter nonsense yd pointed out sorrseramons in your attice now let me do 19th century advice for todays problem 16 queen street georgetown ont dear sir re the letter by mrs goldup all i can say is thank you very much for 10th century advice for a 20th century problem yours truly jim egerton is highpark for the birds world war ii r teehager shoots holes 4n letter rapping teens ten 2 jgtorgc t own the aamowlwt i wonder- would have happened if albert kin stein or sir isaac newton had been discouraged when they were young or if their- teachwrs had referred to their ideas as ohikiiah or imrnature surely you see my point you also implied that we ne verread the newspaper 1 1 could take apoll and collect fifty adults and fifty twmsat random andasfccdt hem to identify puoblo hanoi pierre elliott trufleau maotso tung and joey small wood would you care to guess which side would win sonic pepu- are distrustful of our coffee house may i sujjiohlhallkoydropbyrany time that its open so that they can nee what the youth of georgetown is doing to better ihemtclves akx coudskctttng lpl main st south georgetown ont although i have had no occa- q izlzj rj sion to visit thla office several igen victqria s ueaa acquaintances have mentioned their satisfaction with this and the time- and money sayecmn this way even if there u no georgetown enough to talk about juvenile wor available there in a cer- i delinquency you dont give a taj satisfaction in the feellitg dear editor why houd wc7 thal someonp u intekft in regarding the letter of a b disresp- vour pobcms mrs goldup i would first like j f i iieen victorias dead says this teen writer nn doarsir regarding the loiter from mrs goldup 11 is nice to hear advise frofnen adult whd u out of u an for your seven year om you mustbe so proud dont forget that in a jew years hewill become- one of- us- irre sponsible teens whouier you like it or not but h am sure he will net compjtain brian rallcy rsr toronto i suphascrhas no rrrrrnf innnjrrntrrj i guess high arrttto7 the birds thanks press help in employment offi 165 guclph street georgetown 6nt dear editor t suppose it is an indication of the power of the press as there is now in town every week a man from the brampton employment office i 16 queen street georgetown ont dear sir i would like to take this op portunity for the first time in my life to exercise my right of freedorrtof speech via your newspaper- which i fought for a front lino infantry teen- agcri in europe world war ii i do not say this as a boast but only to put emphasis on what 1 am about to say youth should be seen and heard too i will try to respectfully ans wer and explain a few errors to ux goldup letter to the edlt6r fw 131068 i will try tobe a hrief as possible but i am afraid that- volumes could not cover a pubjoct liko this 7 will answer your letter in two parts first as a father and then as an interested cluie the life of a teenager in george town- today j am the father of this poor child who has lipped and is not of his right mind who has no jclf discipline ifi conceited and the world owe him a living and makes as much sense j her 7 year old if your 7y is as bad off as jim is in your estimation my heart truly aches for that child sincerely i would like lo give ltz a little insight to uie life of this teenager who hasflippedr3im is a teenager i9years old llrhasarthvcragoheauhy body jim is now preparing for his fi nal cxanisatgeorgetowti high school not bad for the men tality of a 7 year old eh that god willing will send jim fully equipped into this wonderful heritage that he has waited for so long he has had a good christian upbringing so lix by your standards jim should live to a rrpe old age dead t wanlesjt hut just how did you and your doctor and lawyer friend am- your disregard for todays i use yourselves in bygone days teenagers- seem so very childish i if you think we do not have wor- adults like yourself should bciries and doors are not slammed seen and not heard you say in our faces njkw i suggest that you are sick of our teenage com- yo clos reread your tetter plaints- but little do you real- as tar as putting up or shutting lxe thaljtodays teenagers will up the youth of today will dc- be paying for your old age finitely put up j pension tomorrow i vw cajm lhot tufl oucr the world doesnt owe us a erntion is trying it make it a life of case as you say but hi better place for ufi to live in dnes owe us life and that is all and in the same breath you supplied by mcrv riisic a orch wc ask j condemn ui for trying to do lheeftra o fergus 1 same for ourselves i it is nice to see that you have n above avcraee seven thank you very much for year old son at your disposal create fur us a new pble g j he must be real whiz j of love i do not think it wisl 1 previously mentioned youthln is far from your hankout it was oruaniitd by i im sorry i cant ect ost inj our youth to help us out ofjcaledon hills because i went extended to despite numerous local hypro- jcesd a compass besdes i lo iumn who w mar- eritcs to help ourselves in find- not have a bicycle it is nicc sllu k 17 lni somo form of recreation to tee that you have so many edm un d nd thus conquerini boredom olympic gold medal winners for il friends and that you will not with support hko yours wcj in your o al anniversary brcetinrs to mr re obviously doomed to failure mrs jom busnell who helping ourselves does not dlscusledly yours j cc their weddink ball club dance at hornby golf club the hornby- ball club held their anuual danco recently at the hornby tower coif course with 200 attendlnc xfusic was belated- weddintf anniversary r and mrs lcs- who eelobrated j their 22nd wedding anniversary on friday february leili eemso cliildish to me butj thoo1jim not supposed to know better some have ncrvc dale carlelon alio 10 i anniversary on feb 27th missionary in india is speaker to presbyterial qrampton presbyterial vis hed its u annu tnee in st andrcatfs vresbyunan church tort credit krs v norrif the retiring prctidcnt- chaired both the mcrnlng and afternoon lesslous mrs s mr ncuiy of orangevill h charge oflirauvottotwnfur the morning and two ladies from milton for the afternoon dur ing lie morndtig session lmt xjoia powric regional scritary for tho synod and synodlcal of toronto and kingston led in the dlrcutdon of the various sports most of which showed ail in crease over jdflfl mrs f blaci the synoical president instelbd tbeoliiccra for 1658 at the clcce of a lunrhcou served by the latiis of et an drews church greetings were extended to the wms fron preebytery by the moderator rev mcgown of milton from st andrews port credit by rev jackson and from synod- leal by the first vice president mrs j mcftorland during the afternoon srdon the ladle heard the report of presbytery on misdjiia as giv- n by rev l d ij turret of dixie a solo let there be peace on arth s mrs john mcclurr of norvil introduced the apeaker mjm aaak uf the uuuo jfcdooakl school of india mlsa leask is in crda jn furlough but will be return loon to resume fisr d v tits in tiulla recaikc cf chan in lha go vernment of india missionaries are having trouble sccurmh visas to return to tlisir work thert ru iz htmtf eelsfof tn ute in having been granted a visa for at least one year in her addrs misj loas told of her vor among tlu girls of her school she akcd especi ally for prayera not just for tho girls in tli illen mcdonald scliool but also those in the government school uhre lt u tiiird indeed to bo a clirlstlan kica uau ttnejeed uw imrortiinco o praying for thoso ut hemo ind trying to win them far chrht for it is they who one day will hi going back lo their natlvo land and take tfw nicake with tliom airs coxiuvid of cjarkson preoldtd over the new business and urrt norria closed tho moo ting with prtyer officers ror k rvit- punt president mrs v nor- kfjf camsjclvllle president mr a coxhcud cuimdou 1st vice prea mrs ej urowii- erin 2nd vi- president mrs ibrofd rod r r 2 brampton corr secretary vr j ydunii terra cotla recording aecrp- tnry wrs j h mocracken llratnpton treus mntw wooer coolvllle secretaries alcrnoon croups mrs f g suable waldo mar evening groups mrs the february meeting or the north trafalgar community club was held at the homo of mrs gordon leslie on wednes day evening feb 14th- mrs dave dowllng the president welcomed the ladies to the meeting which was opened with he singing of thft u nison the- roll call was swered by to members and one visitor the minutes of the last meeting were read by mrs john hannah the rcrc- tary several ret well cards wcr rse n xo u ttoth os btwhp were ill kinal preparations wcr made for he club euchre parly whidi will be hold in the trinity anglican church hall in strcourvulc on thurcday evening feb 20th at 815 pm the program was in charge of mrs fred near and mrs jack williamson a very humorous reading was given by mrs near mrs jack williamson conducted two conteitn with mrs alfred rail being the win ner of a heart contest tho ex change of valentines was held lunch wiis served by the hos tess the next meeting will be held at the home of mrs john cordingley on march 13lh blue grand valley girls oroupn mrc v mjrrls camp- belloville childrens groupn mrs l vhetoiontv nariivilla glad tidings mrs c w mc donald streetsvillo friendship and service mrs s mcneilly oringvils home helper hint j h veyli grand val- layiiiupply mrs l aduir kr injule literature mrs win kanduls rrampton ufe mem bership mrsc anderson ter ra cjtta historian int f i hiomiwoh brampton press mrs a t pony orangeville ragioiuil socrotary miss lois a powrie toronto i have no way of knowing what credentials you hold to judge anyone to the extent and depth that you have via a letter written to a newspaper rut i hope that this leucr jnlght help to restrain you from pouncing on some other person who wants to exercise one of their frccd oms until you have a few facts to write with the authority you seem to think you hold jim is eldest of 8 children high park or calodon hills either tor that matter marilyn bell dldnl learn to swjm at the li mo house quarry pond to the extent to enable her to be the first swimmer to swim across lake ontario she was a teenager at the timo of- this great feat the point that i am making hero is simply this i may liave misunderstood your remark ab out coming from toronto rec ently but if it is the same tor onto that i grew up in 1 dqnt understand your remarks about jilt having any youth ckntrc and not needing any the well invwn gils ryder coached marilyn across the lak and wait doing wonderful work with ihbv youth of toronto and the surrounding districts gus was only one of a list of poop- ikwktfwerehot too busy lb realize that the youth of today htrnv canada of tomorrow could list enough organizations who were interested in youth and youth centres clubs call them what you want to fill a pagu of the herald lwill add in all fairncssthat wofltillhad ourcancrygahfis and our junction boys gangs and hangouts which arc too nu merous to recall here if you wanted to be part of this move ment here was ample opportmi- ityirwasttp to- the- individual i recall the xoot suiters also this may b befohyourttntcal dont know your aie im 13 ioi aiu not talking about muddy york these xoot suiters were supposed to be tho hip claw of that time i remember the long chain hanging from their belts to the ground and how thd adults wanted to hang them around their necks from good sturdy limb of a tree somehow our memories fail us o conveniently when we want them to but thank god this fad passed on but alas another took its place and ao the story goes and will go tp the end of the world wo had tho clubs and the churches with youth movements and with their help and guidance some of these youth of that day believe it or npt turned out to be very solid citizens we wero able through these organizations go to a plans of our own choice and havo a good time with the type of youth wo wanted to associate with and it wasnt in tho roller room of a town owned community centre the youth of georgetown arc only sking for this same orp jwrtunfty is this such a grave financial strain to put on gtowrr tbe sire of georgetown i have slated earlier in my letter that the youth contrary to what you may think or have been led to believe do not want this for nothing and certainly dont expect it to happen over night they have proven this by some of uie activities that they have undertaken themselves to raise funds rutthen again not being of their right mind thoy gave some of this money to a cause they felt mora deserving than hhelr own example tho oxfam march from rrampton in which some of the membera from this hangoutwere so bored and lazy they walked 34 v miles in hmtrd ay att hecotttoffioc a mile to youthln per person if i may be allowed to brag a little more my next eldest son paul who hrn been raised the same way as jim was one of the walkers along with gary glaude on behalf of youthln for oxfam if you are bored en ough by my loiter now you car check these facu in the herald ai they were good en ough to print it for them says teem adijium are young children 40 norton crescent georgetown ontario february 20 10o8 he knows and has known for quite gome time that the world does not and i emphasize does not owe him anything ho has worked on a farm since he was 13 years of age and still does weekends summer holidays easter holidays etc jim pays more than his share of board at home plus he used to help me with a parttime job on week nights with poor remuner ation for him he does not take daddys car to the drivein theatre because daddy doesnu have a car to take himself there we have five other teenage children and thu docsiiotmikc nif any authority by any stretch of the imagination i do have an interest in the welfare of ail teenagers i suppose this may have rubbed off on jim and pos sibly had something to do with jim and his genuine interest that ultimately led to jim be ing elected as the first president of that long overdue and wond erful youthln and their coffee house whichyou referred to in your letter as their hangout at the community centre it is a well known fact by anyone of us socalled a lults who have been bored enough to n read the papers as you advise tub tjlgth n la thlt there was an open invitation in a fairly recent letter to tho edi tor of the herald i quote the heading read hippies far from it youthln leader says 1 also quoum what has george town got to offer the youth dont want it given to us we are willing to work for it in tlie next paragraph of this same letter i quoto again i would like to extend an invitation to the adult citizens of george town to come down to the cof fee house any saturday trvenlng at cedarvale community cen tre to have a look around and meet some of the jlippiocj and drink somo coke or orange on the rocks or straight coffee- end of quote i am ashamed to report that the number of peo ple who made the supremo ef fort to drop in and sec a few focty for themselves were al most nil what gets my diuuler up is these same peoplo who will not see for themselves will condemn the loudest if some of these poor mu- guldod creatures who have so much criticism to qffrr to our youth jo4ay would just look back to the socalled old duyts when i was a youth in toronto lienor i mgved to this neck of tit woods as you call it ttnd i am protty proud of this neck of th woods they should be ablr to recall that barbara ann scott certainly didnt become caiiadas firstoljiuple leu kat ing queen on catfish pond in to the adults of georgetown re liz goldups letter head ed seen and not heard her ad vice to teens i believe that saying is quoted aa children should be seen clc not teens perhaps its such a translation that has caused the rebellion of teens i find it very trying to be treated like a silly child not credited with the intelligence to think for myself we are not children but young adults wo are not asking you to accept our policies but perhaps to help you to understand us but wait do you want to nleet us hal wav w your experience and conventional ways and dis cuss our new thoughts- or do you wish to dictate terms of life to us if it u the latter then i shall simply say that i pity your children tor they will know what it is like to live under a dictator without i thoughts or reason behind each order i liz goldup says we dont need a youth centre wo also donrt need tho second highest crime rata in ontario but wc havo it instead of taking a neg ative approach of defeat i urge you to help us try and reduce this by means of ai liz goldup says a hangout but a better one willi more fuhlilteslhti ri the coffee house could ever hope to attain you may not have had such a centre in your day hut the wnhdisehftnkihg evry day week and month because you dill not have or perhaps need a youth centre does not mean that we shouldnt fifteen or twenty years ago education was not mo easily attainable and many of our parents nevev fin ished high school docs this mean that we shouldnt either a youth centre provides young people with an education also in learning to get along with other people learning to listen to other peoples ideas jot ex actly by a solution to workd wide cold war but if one cant agree with their own society how can one agree with the rest of the world i havq one lait suggestion to llx goldup read 10i by sommcrsct maugham it has a great many parallels to your philosophy of life thank you youm truly laina peardon jim s steering service whi allunmnt whl balancing contplu brake srvlc irl rplri park st clo william for fast action multiple mstm6 service consult a member op the brampton real estate board t wonder how many of ua adults that critic ro jho lazy youth of today coula kayo or would have done this a thing if time permitted 1 majority of adults wont even walk to the corner store for a pack of amokes etc they will send the youth or drive over in their car myself included i would like to point out that they haveon other occasions helprrf nut with- tiomn very worthy causes youth forum red cross ymca and just re cently the march of dimes blitz the herald issuo feb is 1968 carries anarticle that tells yqtt about the marching mothers and teens collecting for the 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