The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 29 Jan 1868, p. 6

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rnb of the sales of those lands, might determined by the arbitrators to be in soms measure the property of Lower Canada as well as Upper Canada. But the position thas, as he conceived progerly,; taken by the CGovernment upon this subject, was one -u-h&-'u- judgment, rendered is necessary tKat should hbavo a policy upon it, good faith the contract with the settler, with | reference to the proceeds coming in year by year of tho sales of all the lands, for which certain prices were pald on the falth of that | contract, 'Thes was the posftlion taken by | the prople whom he had the houour to renresont, asd haviag regard to the great | difficulties with which |he§ bad had to | struggle, the enormous debt $ ay had had to ' urndertake for the construstion of roadz--the amount necersary to bs raised in tke courty of Brucs this ysar to mest its obilgations being no less than $75,000--hav-- ing regard to the magnaitude of this charge on the people, he thought it would not be dealirg justly with them to doprive them o' the relief to be given by thcir receiving their proportion, in accordance with tho terms of the order in counclJ, of every shilling which came in from the sales of thees lands made while the order in council was iu force. If upon duse consideration--and he did not ask a definite answer at this timc--the Govern-- ment shoutd thisk this argument to be a forcible aud senrible one, is would then be their duty to see that the point was urged before the arblirators, whoo thuey considcred whether there school lands wore in part Lower Canada's or not--the polnt that good faith botween the Government ard the pur. chasers required that, wish zo much of the lands as were sold under the orders 12 coun-- oll, the price of the lands »hould bo appled # of the Governmerk with respect to R lands, had just'g contended that it AmpAhe duty of the C«vernment to pay re-- gard to th«ir obligations to lndivlival«e who | bad procss¢éed on the !aith of Orderaita Cona-- oll. And is was on that view that he (Mr. Biske) placed the care, with refersnos to this Improvemect Fand. This fusd wis | deriv:d from a csrtain proportion --onre: fourth, 'as regarded oro olsss of lands, and _ ore » filt>, azs regarded snothor--sf the moaneys received from yoar to year from the sales of lands ; the pro-- | portlion reosived from tho galea in aiy par-- | tloular counnty iscladed within the provisions | of the erders in couvce!l and Aots relating to the subject, being conelgned to that conrty to be exposded is loo:l fmprovemeonts, high-- ly necrssery for the advancement of the county, Of the faish of thors Orders in Counci!, which in fact provided that ozo-- feurth cr one--fif.5, asthe case wmight be, of the price of the lan's, should be applicd to leca\ improvements, very largs sales were made in the county, one of the ridings of which he had the horour to represent, The poople were charged $2 an acre in the frovt rownships, and $1 50 au acrsa in the back townships, on the understacdlog--for such was the law--that that propsrtion of the price shouid be returned, not to the indi-- | vidual, but to the county, to be appli:d to |looal Improvaments, It this amounted to ! this, that, in that new ciuoty, where they world necersarily have to tix th:--mselyes | for thelr looal Improvements, such as gravl |rozx's and bridges, and where th:y had in | point of fast taxed themselves to & very large extent, they distinotly understood that part lol tho prices of their lands was to be resived back again, asd spplitd in such a way as to be an equalvalent for a certain amount of jocal tazxation, which they would otharwise havo had to bear, Sailcs were made on these torms, and for a number "o! yoars the fund was continued, and the proscribed proportion of the annual procceds was duly applied in th:o way he had stated. Then the policy was changed, and it was decided to dissontisue the Improvement Fund. As far as now salss taking vlacsafier | that period weroconcerned, ho bad nothing | to say, exoep' that it was a mettor of polloyj for the Government to determino «hsther the proveeds of theso new sales should be | aubject to a dedrction for the bencfit of the | concty. But ho did ssy that thera rested an | .' ob!!p'tlgg on the Government to orrry cut in measure the property of Lower V well as Upper Canada. But the Uhas, as he conceived progerly,; tak CGovernment upon this sutkject, in his judgment, rendered is "m & -5. ;: w, n ty m"c explained in tbhi should have such a polic; the a n, --Ho had heard v J with refero Efio&on pms the Crown an Lo w wan _ e ¥hat should havo a policy upon it, sBhoogh is might not be neovventy that that should explained in bkis Houre-- should have such a policy anterior the Ho had heard with great sablefaction, the view expressed by the %}ov- exament as so the good faith which ought to with reference to all transactions the Crown and the subject, and be: the Crown and the immigrant, as to lb_'w made to them, and the | 4 { out in _ the _ deal--; E* Ahem, 'The memberfor Urln. \ oussing the quesiion as to the future : because that ijurd, the Mr. BL&KE then ssi4 that |f members desired to disours the matter, he would not withdraw the motion then,. The motion being put, ¥r. SINCLAIR sald that he could fally corfirm what kad falien from the hon. mem--« ber for South Bruse inj relation to tha im: provement furd. At the time the landsia Bruce were sold, the imprisslon among the G@rst settlers was that they would got one-- quaiter the purchass money raturned to them for public Improvements, And in that bellef | they were, he believed, strsngthened by the Orown Land agent, who gave the people to | understand thas they were only paying $1 50, and not $2 per acro for their laad--as their 503 would ba returned to them. The people of that part, he wou'd add, were very much surpr'ssd when thes Government re: fused to c:ntinue this appropriation, That courty, entering at osce into muni sipal goverrmsnt, had had a heavy burden from the outset They kai not bees long con: pected with Huron until they wera called upon to pay some of the debts for const:uct. iog the Buffalo and Lake Huron Rallway--a road from which they Gerived ro advantage. They had also to pay thoir according to the terms« of those o o whother that conclusion was re:d:g:'lzedB:t the arbitrators or not, ho would urge ths{ such was tke true polloy of the Government, the only policy which in honesty tho Gov. eramsnt could pursue, Hon. J. 8. YcDON&ALD said ho had just one remark to make, [% was quite consisient wih the relations in wihoh the hon,. gentle-- mau stood to the county which he represent. ed, that he should urge his vliews. But the hon gentloman must nout forgot that in past years, when there wero members from these counties In tho lato Parlizament of Canada, Mr, Macpherson and cthers, who supported the Governmeat--It was not urged upon the CGovernment that they should do avything ia the matter, Mr, BLAKE --Yes, it was, Hon, J. 8. ¥cDONALD sxrtd bhe knew that on one occatlon, Mr. Dickson strorgly srgued for a reservation of the Improvem:nt Fand but he forgot with what*rerult, The bon' gentleman asked the Government at thist'm® of éay to have & policy In the matiler. Per-- baps they mights consider it, but he would make no pr:iim'ses, ror hold ous any hoper. He could uot say whothor they would be able to show that r«lief had &é'rendy been extend ed to a iberal amount, Fo did not thivk th. Treaturer was at prose | in a posision to show how much had besn exporded under thesa ordsrs in Ocuac!], ta that seotion of the csuntry. Some mermke:s attempled to discusi the polot, but there was uo motioa befcro the share of Provincial exp:nses _ Hence they folt bad, bic:use they felt that some-- thirg like a contract had been eitcred into with them by the Goverament, but the lat. ter had not keps their poriion of that con: tract, The people of that county, he might explain, did no't ask avy favours at the haud of the Governmentia this mattor, They only demanded their rights, And in pressing theso he would distlaotly regudlate any idea of dertring to embarrass the Government But he thought it was owlng to his consti-- tuents, and those of the member for Scuth Bruce, that they shquld fairly bring a matter of this kind to the notlos of the Government, so that in the arbitration the claims of the settlers of Bruce would be attonded to. Mr, HAYS cald that his constituents also had an interest in this matier. They fels thas tho money derived from this Improve» ment Fund were justly theirs, and be would Ina'st in their being pald the quarter to which they were entitled, 'The member for North Bruce was right in claiminrg a share for bis constituents, tcoo, but he was wrong in complaining that they had derived xo benefis from the Buffe«lo and Lake Huron road ; for they had certainly been repaid aix times their outlay on that line. Ho (Mr. Haysr) would be most happy to join the member for South Bruce any tims in insisting on the rights of the settiers. Mr, McKIM complained that great 4 jus: tlce had been dono by the Government in taking away this fund, and nottlers were inquiring anxlously every day abous it, There was no justice in depriving them of a furd expresaly set apart as theirs, and on the faith of recelving which public improvs-- ments to a large extent had beon uszder-- Hon, Mr. MoMURRICH rose to z3y one or #wo--words in favour of the motion. He had bad tho honour of bringing this matter

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