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tire. Hubbard. stating that she hadheld 82.000 oi these debuturss which she had we M880 store pay. " "tdavit to this ' was on ill way. and he th " until f the House had iurtiser l'lu'hll',n'lt2' it. t the consideration oi the Bill should be poet. } Mr. GR AHA! (Hastings), irqnired , whether at the time these debentures were I issued, township Councils had suthorityto , pass a by-lew to create debt without the I assent oi the rate-payers, and, if they had, T whether they had authority to create debt to f the amount of 816,(00? I Hon. Mr, CAMERON said " had never l been contended that the corporation had 1 not power to create this debt. it ' it had done " inai'ormal manner. There 1 was no restriction " that time on the usage 5 ot such a by law by the Township (fanned 1 The detect in the by ~isw was that It did not 1 mvido a sinking fund or state the rate to be l loud. t Mr. HAYS narrated some oi the isots oon- t neotod with the issue oi those debentures, , and suggested that the debentures should he t paid up to such amount so the holders show. ' ed they had paid for them. He was prooeed- t . ing to read lire. Hubbard's telegram, when 1 Hr. LAUDER rose to order, and insisted l . that it was against parliamentary prsoiioo to 1 road telegrams in the course ot debate. l, t Kr. RYKER'P wished the hon. gentlemen 1 . to point out the rule which would be violated 1 by the reading oi the telegram. , t Mr. LAUDER said the hon. geniltmtn , _ was very sharp, but he ought to know that 1 a what he M. Lender) had stated was com ct. I t It was only recently that the rule had been so 1 tl far relaxed as to allow newspaper extracts , s to beread in debate. 1 Mr. OLIVER gave erothervorsion, differ. l i. ent irons thot of the member for Huron, with l t regsrdtothe issue ot the debentures, and j tt contended that justice to the widows and orphans who hell them, nqnired that they 1 his shcoldbelegeiised. 5 Its-. Mr. CURRN said that the whole question l " was. Were these debentures issued in good 1 ttto iaithi were they taken up in good faith , and did the township receive benefit i Ith iron: them in the expenditure on its [dark- Io. road? There ques tons must be answered 1 no in the atrirtastlvi. There was evidence sire In that the bylaw was approved of by the poo- ' trt. ple, ineltttyth-tbiequeat by law for a 1 ll? loan of $1 600 for the same purpose was 1 tii. ssnotscned by the vote oi a lerge majority ot ( .to the nee-payers. If the money ilrat obtained 1 I" had not beenexpended in accordance with : tie the wishes oi the people, they would not l have motioned the second y-lew. This l 'to house should not deprive individual: tf their l "to rights, in order to screen a weslshy town. k. Illlp. 1 rd. Mr. LO my said certain mem- l, y bore oi the Bay ham ocuncil . t formed themselves into a road crrnpsny. and . 3 then issued township debentures in favour of the company. A measure similar to this in had been submitted tot he Canadian Par, , llament and had been thrown tut. Dr. scam. spoke in ("curd up. Bill, 1 V: Tho flrat, second and third clauses were ! put and declared carried. Mr. HAYS rose to spark to the third . cisnse. Mr. LOUNT rose to order. The clause . u wascarried. , , Ir. BAY8-1 called " not carried." ' The customers said he had pronounced the clause carried. l Mr. ll AYS begged, so a representative ot d the people, to retest against this "tfling cf 1 discussion. an the carrying of the Bill in . this hurried manner. Mr. MON? (Ottawa) suggested that the t hon member might have " opportunity of _ e moving an amendment. and renewing the dircnssicn at the third reading. Mr. BL IKE said they had had the whole of this discussion before, and it would!» well to get rid of " now by going book on tho third clause. Hon. Mr. CARLING agreed with MI, Blake that the house should go beck on the clause, Hon. Mr. CAMERON resisted the prepo- sition. m did not want the time of the house unnecereuily occupied with a discus- sion. which wee merely obstructive in its 1 ehsrsuss. sitsrthopriedpieei the" had 1 been "qted. w. cementum = tttAlit ' l t-seoi sleet out. last home mould m encourage - lien on t9rhtthtsthtn." He I be would-othgeilsethese debentures beyond 1 . the value they represented in the hands of t their present holders. He suggested that the committee rise and report progress, and ' that a select committee be appointed to I make further investigation so to the feeis of I the one. t Hon. Mr. CAMERON refused to accept r the proposition ot the member for Alan ma. , All parties had had " opportunity ot being _ heard before the Private Bills Committee. if a . In. Hubbard had a right to receive 1 o 32 000 from the township, the person who tt. bought It even for 030, had the same right , a in law. l