The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 27 Feb 1868, p. 8

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TliP,'l',',,r,rN'iT2,',,ETcit? received br" e people with favour. m regretted to hear the manner in which the member for algoma had spoken of the engineer who had given evidence before the committee on be- half ot this company, ilatng that he was thhing toratraritraiof, The same idea was started in the committee. and Mr. Pox diatinc'iy stated that the firm of Mr Charles For & Sons ottnfiued themselves to the business of consulting engineers. It had always. been the case with any new practical idea, that it was opposed by leading professional men. When steam navigation was proposed, leading engineers scented the idea. The same thing happened with reference to railways themselves There was a great deal of bigotry among professional men. In medicine, allopaths, if they had their way, would allow none else to practice. He denied, therefore, that they should be bound by the opinions of Mr. Reid, and other engineers, who were attached to the old system, so as to prevent people, who were willing to invest their capital in railroads, from judging for themselves how they could unrest " most tprofitably. lie thought hon. gentlemen should pause be lose they hindered the building of railroads through the country. As for the trenship- meet objection, it had been shown to he of little weight. The military oNeotion was also a very poor one. The house had clearly the option ot allowing this road or preventing this district from having any railway con mnnication at all. n justice to the Oouuths of Grey and Bruce, hon. gentlemen ought to consider this matter seriously, and do what they could to further this road. Me. GR tHAll (Hastings) would not have spoken but for the observation of the last speaker. that members of the committee had been changing their views. For his (Ur. Graham's) part, he promised the promoter of the Port Perry road to support that project, and hence he had done so. The only reason he had heard in favour of the present road was that of economy. Bat against that, they had Mr. Cumberland's statement that he could give them a broad gauge line for the same money. m even offered them l running privileges over his line, and was willing to allow the promoters of this line to select any man te mske tho necessary arrange- ments. Now there was the hon. the Premier -. man noted for driving sharp bargains- let him be selected, and depend upon it a most economical arrangement would be made. He Mr. Graham) had gone into the c ouunit. tee in favour of the narrow gauge principle, but the statemen's of Mr, Read, at r Shauly, and others convince! him that the narrow gauge arguments were fallaoious, lid hence, he had changed his opinions. Mr. SWINARI'ON said the section of county he represented was just as much interested in the ounatruotion ot the proposed road as any part ot Grey and Bruce, " d he knew that the people of his section were thoroughly in favour of an independent line. They wanted no branch line. but were pre- pared to show their interest in the narrow gauge by subscribing $50.000 towards it. Mr. MCKELLAR said that this question had been tho roughly discussed in the railway committee. He was not a resident of Toron- to, nor did he reside " any point where the road would immediately bet,ofit himself or constituents, therefore he came to the consi- deration of the question ftautteroatedir When he came to the house he was some- what prejudiced against the narrow gauge, but from what he had heard,he was almost a convert to the narrow gauge, particularly for subsid in y lines such as this. It was argued that the adoption of this gauge would be detrimental to the general interests of the country --'shat it led to breaking bulk. Bat he found that, with a broad gauge, tho Great Western hardly ever sent its freight cars through to Montreal l that even the Grand Trunk West transnipped its freight ior the east " Toronto, and that the Northern seldcm or never sent its ', cars to Montreal or Portland-nor did they I send them west to Detroit. He found, too, l from a statement made by the members of the Corn Exchange of this city, stating "that although ihe members of this Association do all the produce business of this 'or-the largest market in fhttatic--tU, seldcm knew of a single ear of grain being forwarded to Montreal or the seaboard over the Grand Trunk Railway in Great Western cars, or in Northern Railway care ; nor do they know of any grain, except a: the time the Recipro- city Treaty expired. having been carried from station on either the Great Western or the Northern Railway in cars of the Grand Trunk Railway. Further, they state, with full knowledge of the husincse, that all the grain received over the Northern Railway or Great Western has been transhlpped; nine. tenths of it has gone forwarded by water for American ports, and the other tomb in ves- sels, or by Grand Trunk Railway, to other places. And they would take this opportw nity ot stating, that so great is the jealousy between the Railroads as to their cars going on other lines, that it costs about 83 a car to haul the stuff that has to go forward by either railroad from one station to the other, Which is much is excess of the cost of ttytahipment from cars to vmeis " What then became of the break of bulk "gtttrtant agairtat the narrow-gauge. It ap- Ptared tohim it fell tothe ground. Thin the "Pane-h of the measure changed their ' [round and argued that the broad'gange ': need be built as cheap as the narrow- ',

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