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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 9 Nov 1869, p. 1

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" Mr. GRABAME (York) seid the petition . " i'iiilaG of the Briggs; 12,'LfS'8lSflll of ? ' h i was constructed ia the shape it was now pro. . In the Dominion House of 'd,,ef,',fglrl 1 f, sented in for the very purpose of avoiding was the leader of the Liberal par); Mit coming under the rule of hat year, an , . Mackenzie, who last spring 0 Deed I' F. i there was nothing in it whioharould allow of , tion similar to the one now "if; the Elm" cl' the interpretation that the Attorney-General _ He (Mr. Fe uson) did not tl . I th OMe had put upon it, because it neither asked for members on the other side of the 'k',',',,',', hon . money, land, or anything ot that kind He l . a right to put words in the titi se had . 2 2 still held to the opinien that petitions of that ! it did not contain. The leader 3: 'l'd"l, that l nature should bereceived. If the rule Were i sition asserted that it asked tor to e "[999 _ fully followed, " laid down by the Attorney- I' of acres of land. There was no 'ddll 'le,',',', General, the Jrouy would not be able to re- in the petition. It did not air for 1.0 d trig cents a jre.t,iht? in favour of any asylum or I contradicted the hon member beca n ii lie 2 similar institution, because they all, more or , not wish it to go, abroad to the 1'h e did 3 ' less, contemplated something In the nature ' the Company asked for a ant V',',',', d t.htt i, 2 of money; in fact, every petition partook of The ttttttttttton was foungirsd m alny kiad. ' that nature. Therefore. he held that if Suspicion of the hon. membe ere y on the they threw out this petition, they would de _ Mr. BOYD id t r. stroy the right .of petition altogether. On South Simcoe df Lit,' hon. .member for " , almost any subject on which a petition the Opposition . h en occasion to eGrge i, might be presented to the House there must right of titi wit witshmg to prevent the , i be somethihg of the nature referred to, in the sition hops '23. A. a member of the oopo. . f."., of building, or in some other way; but the hon. memb the charge. It wastrue that _ this did not in any way refer to such ues- the atte 'll,',',' " for Bruce last session drew i'ii;iii,"ii'iiiiiiruia1r,.ydyoutse1t the(l'i n Ion of the Houae to the f . y in. . that; by th ul not .v _ member fo.r. South Simcoe. It was therefore the rulin t e r y, ot the House directly within the rule of the House in this l . shall beng the Brstiah House of oGiiiiil fact, and he thought, therefore that the pre. the sam tollowed. The hon. gentleman " i 'i eept established hy the Dominion Parliament titi e 'de tsh.o?ed that m no 0'" could a I 3 lit receivmg . petition. of a very much strong 2;. l? " lug aid from the Crown be reeeiv. . " er .charael;er than that of the petitioners in aho ld JC,', tbl? p arent to all why such a rule this case, ought to guide to a very large ex. th ll G enforced, for if no such rule existed tent the decision of this House. He remim. e ovenment would be deluged with i bered that when the rule of last year Ji, tgi) petitions. But, while he took i adopted it was held out by the Attorney- Atlagmuné' he could not "it" with the io , i General as Y' argument in favour of it, that . - ing'bmeial. It had been the custom the Dominion Parliament would not r tt . V ' .no 'f.?" resorted to howev - 't "Thl8lt) LE tl I SLATU any such pe!tition, " it was then 1uritS.,' t . oeive rlidte, sffiratiag iiuiiit' 6: tgl . en; . t ' It E, te 2t hid not been t1t.yys. He ihoirghr, tt'ptdhrti2r aid trout the other; t- ---- ceioer;d ore, that the petition should be re be 'i'fll'l','dl ',t? 2e,rttg',ri'eide', oould h r: TUE"DAY . . 2 00m . rwar I referred to h 2 r a The SNAKE}, t a , Nov: l 1860. ti p. LOUNT considered the right of pe- . t'e,meth,/ti,,g,tu Boyd) .y.u.lt.1 there. i i, , , .1» v, - i ook the chair. at three l ttion " one of the privilege of this House I, . for a grant. L t Pl on, ." it did not ask ( o'clock. generally, but he was afraid that if th t . e It be received and referred PETITIO rr,ling of the hon. Attormry-0tntsra1 J',)', oldego'limiee; and even thoughtherhoald . The follo . NS. 3 fdh"T,1,tste1l,; the right of Petition mum land the: fgd?geb"d it"? of mm" or , w . . , . . Mr. Scott 12g petitions were pretseniasdt-- i in th: tre tre,)',? 1?tg, was . net recommended by the Crown. hTlll "flea . li . ( rey)---l?rorn the Board of Pub. I 1xord nor the gli hte Pe iuo.n. th Bingie ty.'tnpathiae,f with the memb f are are E f :10 Instruction for the County of Grey pra . l of the (U/lf/el te/tttee, on the put tfuncoe, and would vote for ins-2c 0;. South T l l mg for certain amendments in h y l, of land from th C s t ey Wanted a grant Mr. WALLIS beli li.' ion. r ; School Act. t e Common , emerie strong gummy? thellpfreim the Pres to be received " it tti'id211' If?" ought a t , i . ' e e Ielr b .. e ' o " 'i Debit. Whaler-From the Township of tiomg of thiymero,, which v:an Siop'iii'v he, "031d 'uqaysat; that it be 're,',.,'),',',"',':,',',', ' Li 'life pPtpg for the tsatabluhtmsnt of an preipared and couched in rtsspeet0llvai.r,oge it, an: lt acommittee, who could exatniae f . l p amic Hospital, 'lt which asked for nothing in by:., hie. Wlthnltlt h they should find anything Wm"; HURON AND ONTARIO CANAL tttgritty',',":',',,,"",',),:,',',',',' 'Pr for "lining At 'i?, could report it to the House. = . The t . i . ou ht to . . reatn1rer 3 strong box, I ty.. en. MACDONALD . l i tion of Tee,otr,teg 'lfdh,ece t"crgt 'rt1y1.1te'g,1c1ig,'fi, innehriigi'etzed It!" the t t,'gggttttl' tf.,', country shoulduftg- hte:?, l . amp Canal Com ' an n aria the project . f . ' . 3n agonisni to . . 8 inflame would ref . ', ! hom yester day, Paw, which was deferred l t','d'uTtdl'id,'o,'di, hgglifzdhieet ??*thllt'ye on e a? 1'itelye'p2,t'd of any grietfnzel'eth l : Attorn . , both in the old ' ' "l "forest . . o tt Person was " . . i ed that 1:333:31," giACDOhALD request to oppose the feg,yt,hi"g/fl, Y.1.tl this, f' a???" else tm.rrtd which (',1,tt,ht, I In th . n tt read. Ihminion Parliament . U petrt.io.tr Tha. ' ti retell" of this Legulature and a f e petition, which Was " . much a received petitions of a ; Ion was tent in, akin a re ' peti- . tgl left Clerk, the Company ',g1'tdi'grlg thay this 5ltu,,r,','; and he tnought; tGt be my if it were other; he thoald I or made such arran em t a.' e tt B u oo upon the ruling of that of that kind would not . . any matter neers, contractors and g YP??' with "lil; l use as that of a Superior Court Som f of the House B room" the Ittentiou , United States and Gr capitalists in t e the wording of the claus . . Ito th d . . ut he must protest a ai . eat Britai "He th ' t es ot the petition , Octrine that ever titi g ttst , secure the early constru ti no " would en re erred to hy Mr. Lount " f ceived which had f , pe 1_ion must be re. 2 . and Ontario Ship c fi'.."': of the Huron tbutthere wasnothinght it ti/GG a pm " min: 1 or ita objtsot irtterentiall i the House to take the" i.and. they prayed ur" " the rule of last year M to the o it fall the ravenous , a claim upon the dom . Y , ' . . . ' _. . . . . ' . f the C . 9m or i tion with a View to thmatter into consider-a- cel ion of petitions ask; P. .non re th no o oantry. The et tt . Govern , W'.t' ng for aid in an ; iaCompany Chaml . 'd I oaot enabled with the sancte' merit being . He hoped the House would y in . ' 9 eon like h a , Hi- . . . . * t allow Vmoug supra. I "la , peared . adopt such measure; "ll' of the House, to '; ti petition to be laid aside no form and o y it assum a new '. shall deem . " my aid the House 5 Mr. McK ' . . ? "kttl thtrroeis. to take th . l 'd1ed2ieyigrbiref,i)2' Jxtt'if,i,e, fe' com. i hon. 'i,,e,cEedohufd'/t,tig1,i,',"ihit the t',',',,,tecitt",idettet Tokntak. Whiting, i or . tion did not . n, upeti- .. th . . . in? one ew that . sj)t',tggiitt,T,atls, MACDONALD or lie, to g,t,/tt,,/o,uytiprihAtirgef whitish?has???""1353:i , construction ! "veins it befo th 1°C o . Com 0 1 ands, to thi , session on the Imam-id A JPt last . ti . " 0 House at ill? Itis may. The exam le f . his 1 e 5 tions asking for aid" i et of 1807, peti- -i pe ltion from a corporation motel. a . House of Commons hp o the Dominion f . land could not be n the shape of money or g i that they have made arrangem y stating favour of r . . f. beta. invoked in 3 I . . , . tsfor con- eceivmg this et'ti i able friend who hiacf'wed If his honour. 'iritruotind a canal. If they had" 2 true that the Hone I,', l on. It Was: (M r. iiiiiiiaiiij de '.21dtro,fy"'f t"hirlmtition i .ar.rttrtgemen.ty he was sure no 0 made such the Petition. But 'il' 2f Lkmttnona received I this ruling ' It"" an alteration of "micro with their carryln thne wished to theimportunitie , y". OnlytOgei; rid of th t ' . should give . considered thi . g IP out. He o . '."'ao those who wered . i p02tion tltculieiutott,t' with "tet cn the iiii?jili'e,titiir: 1atddia' attack 1 f,'e,Ti',/"2hy,igug l gait. and ,'l'tll"ll'l tshouldi , . "". it Walt b one rather-t . a would , th . en at' din s,i . , to a ',ectlTe, .to aCommittee with sag; M d asked for the; had £01318 boldly forward 1 may 2f their gin, and 'w'illl'fll/lful' b12113" seemed asim {28:1},th of the question. It of refusing to none to Sleeved the Ptiuciple morning "lr,St and gazzled there in); but the tt p iagto receives tition nonty ts p pe tions, asking for I and ' tug ' buttonholin me . ext step w ald pe , gran was a good on . taking them g mbers petition N . 0 be to refer u attera .h tt. 0. and that such 'i, . " (LsughUr . T . to a 1Jomm tt that ould rest with th of all this th H ) o get ri) fron the Committe I. 08' and get th re art It Was true that the h e Goverrirnu,at. I tosit on in e Ouse allowed a Committe petition, he considee in favour of aid. 'rl/d 'imcoe was eXceedin 10h. "Ember for Smith . ed of friende question, a Committee com ri e ed, if any member 'thttl)d not be receiv. (Joveri ment. g y indignant with the their J,tef"gLu,t Company. But, 3119: Mr. FERGUSON W) 16 . MR. FERGUSO'J " ' ber for West 1tc1,,torit'r'f"id, by the mom. the view taken b JT d perftsetly agree in MR M KE V t""""" What?" did the leader of th ' Mr. Harrison, what 1:213}:th fact that 'a1,','ntr,"efg,"elh it ttant; i. If She 'ie'A5cidy,t','ltirt, indie. . fe,,", A. o'f'/itofdfl)1,'tt,tt it Why, Sir i P ere Will not a . P'.". for. the Gove . . or Wilhed to op 0: 01150. (Hear h 1 out of the tion athing for an 11910310 word In the peti- f c fid mment let, him move avote of p e unless this il ear). -He knew well that did not think the y t Ing of the kind, and he ite),' D once and he would fi d Want , oth h tf "he received some " . . . . ad to h . a hon, mem- er ere, it would b notion or mg of last year Shiv?" mythlng in the ral. bop re I " t him, (Laughter) T I those who w . e. the death-knell of petition f . t? I"Jerald prevent t . ' h .gent oman knew ver w 11 . he; th ere moving In the m . mung. LSgu,hiyug,t.ttda' it on: hitters..." IT,', Jiifoii', P,",,,")?,'; t: i 'iltl,,1't',,'ltatg'tfgt1ti; 'ea,'),',',?,'.'),', te 00081 ered. ii' th gr. . 3 on be re- no l d s ow ia constitue t topleas th rom its rules in rd last session a . , Dominion Parli . " done for the gob n 3 what . e em. He asked th H t 0 " , petition from hi tarmsttt who he .""ne, yet at the " . tnut the Govern e ouse toaa great deal atron e t " Company e M. h Was t!upporting the G "19 main d went in protectin th to this bod g ' then what the '. tll . opposed it. He 1'u overatnent ' an "tremor of th g tsdo. . . y, was received y Mint in not ' ish t (l r. MoKellar) did Government . 1d tyountrr The Jection was raised . The some ob. hi tt p rolong the discu t l: siiio . on be unwortn of ruled there, but was ave l 13 int he thoiight tli . . " on, bat foe . n which they held ifth y. the po- . r. be r . Opetition tho 1 ' . their stand . i. " did not t .Attvaen. M ACDON A i said tte,, lib" Ut .iiyse hon. gegtlienlilov tbough 'llf2eli'ehahe,itr, of this kind edt, mitted mistake. t LD-at they com. l bun br t, 9 petition should lit t h on For his own n em by their best frie ds. that. a Ottawa, I cannot hel _ We te (121833 into the House at all if live retrporuibilit putt, he we ready to take T, Mr. FERGU v . p no, H o mg, i.t. was wasting the ti t ey ocuntr , o g,",.',,',',""),','.: the people of 'ft was t SON Said the hon ir, l Ouse to discuss the . line of tt h ylgainst 0mg drawn into . t " f and a: and patty) of the iiiiiii'; gentlemen "in! in. But the real Object (ifilestion any l f0.1emes which must end in jobs and i only was txpoml'h for its mt- "att/rt, "3:10th Wag "Printout if 'ld thers hod. , Sign, t',1d oould benefit only tcert,',',,? no?" w... i',ai11t,e1 'tgf",',',',, but 2 (33.13t f st:18h1"liftgt'tit"1 they btidh'ydre,1ilt1,t It 'll',url2d,Tl', k'Jit,tlti 'i;)ullC'lu'l't W ich he h an made a .' lie 1 n or a grant f p received ' e or aid, it could . been ado tt no doubt report, l cou d not see how 0 land. . . . On the other hand . not be . pted, but f would have could Vote f . l hon met i) I nothing it w . ' if it askedf . in, alth at th or the fact that it of ti or ittt Te'3eption m, n in" reoei ih' , " equally mcapable pr l He denied th 'slaat m0ment ot th , ".me e country which he . . e Section 1 w . lhe House w . . of bsitut . . at there .ebessiom not sustain hi , . reprtststtted w should be re a." willing that . . tition about me w" "Wishing in thi Was tot 1m 1n vloting for it WI." '. matio p sentedand printed forth . n . Ilt'.",1.ttlt'h' that lor",',',',,', land, timber or at 2l' ten /dfg,',t,poT,f,, to give to thiaenéhdrm that 1:1.0fthe community atJsrge ',tlS",'2t , with etudneer Semen" had been m o.'."' of acres of its bli ai'pnsg it _ Promoters ought to be i, , with 5 Which would 'g, contractore and ca 'ate r ire particularly " the Colin 10 domain, I were received, the next thi latiahed. if work. Would tit: 'it', "athletics 0:12;: . trp"2t'a",turrt,,shg:sma:,e for £3an had al ( "2l",t, It should be Sent to ingozould be to aCommittee . . my harmi . I, , , """l:. The Hows ot"truetion l I r. PA RDEE-C atittee. $002," 1't,tg,tht,at Y hether 1332518. 11rhetr1'gtti'Tc,titlt, with"; fl')',:,','",? to i to refet it to a Comufiim P" Rouse refuse 88, . ' t th . 0 '.. tre', witl f s and dl/Ill,",,,' t', 339%? the tL/ttg 1? 22213:" (dr'lnl',h'd1'i',ll,f,r/titat,il/ this at: I utlt,"t,Tifh'ttrt, MACDONALD c on, , .' . Mi, t h, . 9. ac; ' "-ei'. 'tttttpete,', it Ple fc'd',htht'e Ufa" 'dll/hte,',','."' open it they ',"l,'atrf"t,(,uei1'irs,1 i C 12g _83(lined by 2di'2l""l!trt"1/d be noth. . and that it tlrtto forty millions ttwo ved Mr. FER . i '..i' "W." nor, there would b it We." ; tt 1'/rl;lullfo't"c'u'guk, tWhiCh ';;')ytee; . the 'fa',e'f,fieiSiupt,1 Bthe atseriirn of . ' i 2",', (2133:1213; on the questio: Jh'.l,'tr"2giii't l eatto every n ry and of the Was indignant with or JGhWell that t 2 a" . . g 1 ' surely they mi ii?" ot .this civilized great Mr M 1 the Government vie _ Mr GRAl-IAME (York wishes. The g Pr It " least th .World, . cKELLAR---Wa is , . . against the insiuuati Jlregged to protest . . Houseto Petitioners the Bte good ' Mr, FERGUS ' n'tit tro? " General, th t Ion of the Att l 323' '/t"t'o',t'gettir ii'ti'i':uil'ifrlt/).; _ got only Was 'fl,tUttt1, his denial. I' nature of ajgb tijeirat,rt'cit,ytit,fi gloat; i t ite the com hm ing take ' Overnment b th Shut with th Attor G is ttutter thowork Th mtrneorntsat and n to " perthsn ' ll e Stated that e , ney- eneral MACD; T ' . . . . prom, ml took the . the Attor. don't know " ALiLy Ing for land T,',' waa turtlling thereaio ' of , lidved that this - . right coilrse if h b ' on _ -oontinuedto money. Thelma atak of the m1 petition was auiatri tt tV Mr. GRAHAME said _ (i,itieii: reetived, 33:13:12: '.let'l'iyfeea"gt, 2tl not tlf2tQ,oplt et', "3533.? It,",,":,',,',') bringing this, phil,t1,,,hg,1, tlv, omlnittee and its goiu b 0 jeotions on . . . "tera who t' . ' n more than one . it ore the ' whioh iiiii'td .Wntended that g tstore a Liberal aid aairnilar Occasion it w used . Itell, awtmt of alt conne It'oe!tyt, and w . ..rfyiiitdtd l",',' $33: against it 2t,g1t _ ofthe 1ott,tiihff,u,",t, It ;"i/lh'lt',te c' . imam"! tusd t'lld'ftl1t11t'i1,g,iey',t' 'tttd 'h',', I ?er.tering with F that such . tt . people of the ri ht o wi9.ed to deprive th ,.' turtutihsntyral. -" mutton of the i pfm'on Wag gut; A,',"'),',?,'?, rightmla', Mr 1'l"lttft' petition. a i Mr. l? T, RGUSOV mad f o . _. . - . .. ' A . "ery hundred of th: to Itimsty-etitte out 2 Mr. FERGU 11o, it Was not. J i marks. He contended tl Mttttt further re- _ l . . '2' . _ people otontario. I been Mr. 'flfiP2til then it must ha f : General had given up tithe Attornav. '.- = r' .." c,.' I ' l . i, than]. diiiiG'wi tt Second leader. g0 .' mlach " -he had now Shag?! 0.356, ias"s. . H K V .. s.", '?sariiiit haia,r, _ -' P,:,,',,',.',,',,,,'),?? hon. them0 ('3'; soul cleimedk that the iii! grouad i " ' . s/iris, new" Ka "ic',tt"gt tthuAif' _ 1ksii 'auitii'il T o as ing for 1 ion, "'. . , ihiNi - q aired lor nothing, and 'iiiait or Mariel; _ .

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