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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 17 Nov 1869, p. 3

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'P"' . . [ F " ' tp .-, 'y": . . k; , -~~ '-'r"s- .. - ,.= .. . l '/ ting place tmiwiiii a m ' EET.' MllMllll . 1: J, " red by theriudiiii-' "on. " " if no" Mn to int out '23-, o ton attt Illll' Rh aw", in. 19lM _ __ _ L' .'.f' (.lll'llt"Soii4?, " ttur" The oomshtutioa , the correct chi-use 82ty But there 'i?,:,';',":',', Tt.1tf2ft ai . TV "s ttttP',.', by m" ' l "r mtgt - ~ ' 1v . u . w pad govt the aims and promo- had been no agitation in connection with 359,) th r. d , dhe did, not rise to oppose r w ividett "130 two o1t--amrrtthante' , rT " . f ted as or t: 'll of society. ttag gained I this tg',ftt arid he oould not 0000"" why 2"»'4 . (t secon reading 0.! thiy Bill, but should IB, ('16er baker? clerke, bt.---and the nn- 5'7 - iti ' ' q upon Tmd,',',', or". while growing wealth and the on. gentleman had introduced. the _ ,.',? hy" 1I',tf, gptlti,a.ui.tm m 'uPpirting it, , 'ttl dpo p tuttiort who lived in "looms, ho. , . , " " PmDefity are yharmful auxiliaries of consti- measure into this Parliament, stultifying as F , 'l'del tt tt'ftrte,ne "Nature of hisown. Q tht,') tpa',dd7it'ggt, tutd might be here , V 3' 'Nll - Lrd _ I tuionat S',,',",',':', Lord Seniors, being on F hedidthe recorded opinions of those hon. _ ,' the fre t " the words ot the Bill, with , th " an away to-morrow. It was claimed 1 :' r' .57" 'rl. , r a joint 'd'fg,','i'tnt'e, of the House of Lords, is members who had voted against it before, i . e tt ngle "yyp.ti.on of. the amount men- . " the first ch." should u admitted on the 25;;- 1'11"." __ _ reported a having raid tut--" The power l unless he could at the. same time bring for- I gonad, were idehtieat with the resolutions he . around of inhs1ligenca. 1yw..eou1d we know sii, ' r, riff,' 7 ' ' f ', . l aion 01thevote wastheonly truesecurity which ward proof of some kind to show that the l I'd the honour3to than last year. (Cheers) i [ 1 1.l: tortttt by an exemination " to intel. _,' (tti/rr/ii';: "ii $t l an magnum", had for the possession of life vote which was given last session would be i . I t had been his full intention to bring for- l ectua1 a1.sility and "Piremt.P.ta.' And such 'I. ii}. ' . , , and pro rt n As oontiUi;tsd with the arte, unjustly in this. The gentlemen _,' ward the matter again; but his hon. friend, V an examination was impossible. Hitherto, T l .. , ; ' ;'ilirr'o';1% Eepubuc our franchise is con. w tt would receive the franchise throu th the the member for Prescott (Mr. Boyd) by; l _ " regarded the frauehise, iau11igeuos had I f ' f traeterd-niid I will rilt say not wisely so; bat measure of his hon. friend were not suffering ', been too quick for him. (Laughton) They _ been measured by the Pouession of a certain ../ , " _ i the grounds of comparison are unfavourable my injustice, they were not overburdened l knew that the Wise men came from the ' "notrnt of property, try.1 it ont, ot them '. _ t ' P. as re ta us The privileges of citizenship by taxation more than the rest of the com- l hast, aid he was glad to see that the wise SOUng men had the Intelligence claimed, and '., '1; _ , . unbroken. as to voting, we do not offer; munity and so far as the legislation of the 5 man hom the East had seen fit to adopt his valued the "Machine, it surely would not be l J, l 1 , but we on on egimilar policy, oxtendsoar l House Gi session waaoommrned, it had been '. words we, batim. dif.fit.iult; for him to entitle himself by ac- I, _ ' . Gaiiiii"C'ai,ri thus root our institutions l favourable to income. The "emptied had 2 Hon. Mr. WOOD-Without . ' " quinng the necessary amount of property. I _ " A more dee l in the affections of the people. ' been placed at a higher amount, and he oould I tion marks (Loud hm ht gwtng quota. Ashe the second class-the shifting popala. t _ till ' The objegit'ion which the fear of leading to see no reasontowarrant the change proposed. . l M PE. R , . . g or) q lehlon-hc thought there could be no greater , I l : democracy offers, in excluding these intelli- , Perha in time they might come to when ; I th hill 'e X "id if he did not introduce ty? than to admit them into the body po- rl i NI . gent men from the franchise, is equally as "l "£880, but he hoped it; would not be M. l, it it , 'll should, herever, humbly "9' litie as electors. He was not afraid ot trugt- ., ' r, ll ll strong against educating the masses; far it is (Hal's hear.) Be did not think that the ex- ' _ Ego III . ( ',h', hear.) He thould not trouble ng the p20pitr of Canada. The presoc' elee. ,_ . well lindwn that " education progresses it ampleof iiMrnitedstatet1.waa.arttetple that ' so u once lwth any lengthy remarks, in con. l fora: body was the people or Crcud . i . causes the old conditions of societv to change they were prepared to follow Ill that resp3s't, . I h q once 'lj e very able tstatement ot the trxf'haih'rvi,r, only a limited . 0'3; S-- , " e --the under strata of society working up- for he heard that there was not more cor- gin-hie!!! if for Prescott. It had been asked l whom the people of Canada .difi' to _ . ilE!! ' wards. But who is there, on this ground, ' rapt legislatures in the world than those of l y t T, tt ould not extend the franchise to Ct Wider it safe to entrust the freebies fit . ' I Ei l' would deny the people the blessings of educa- the United Statee. It th? tnatotmmt w!"f I f Ciel: w 'lt t'eat,tl statute labour, and so mm"? for Prcsuvtt, had Quoted the 033.3330? i , _ 7al tion? 'l. Afewwordsas to the moralgrounds of ', aslander upon that body, i.t..was one much 1 bit]; . . e con only say that he was not a 1.: some (iLinent English s"i'aTi1'd.i"'d';"t:)','fi', , _ 271's _ the argument and I have done. A. a rule, l was promulgated by the public press of toot th t"de universal suffrage, and he thought ci an income iraueis"r.e,. but it sh mm be re- 'l i "'4 r itis not 'iiiiiii'tiiri class that crime is recruit- , WWW. and prpbably the very oirotvnsunty , it ere .must bt, . line drawn some- tt embered, these were merely opiaiom/Liie' ' Bri:")', ' ad, nor do they people our gaola and peni- I that the franchise of that country was uni- l ere. Still, he did not; believe that lad Lot become law in England. When whit . _ , F, "s'.' "' . teitisrietr. They populate the churches, and versal, and that every one had a right to vote 'dfit'i,, '"ht 'dl, benefit gained by were celled the Fancy i4"rsachieisir----iueladm, l . _ l . ..ru' ' more the Sabbath l "a members of Meehan. might have led to that corruption, which he tion f the e most Intelligent por- franchmes of this kind-were proposed to an: 1 ' l . . " tCt ic's Institutes and Mercantile Library Asso. ho and believedwould never one: in the f ho 6 community from the exercise , angiish House of Commons they Were utteci . . x r f ~iations tavail themselves oi the beneiitoi a I latures of this country. (Hear hear) 31' W. franchise. Speaking for hiss own i, nously rej cttrsl. a" l br, ' a: a", press ; patronize our lecture rooms i ia. ith these few observations he thought that f1t1tifs, he f,'ge, s'le that the measure WM l Mr. GOW thought the hon on 1.. s" I (r cg " i', vest their eeyipg. in Building and other Saw. this Bill should not be passed by the i cheeks?" agone, and would when passed c ntre WellingtciiMr, "my; ham)? ilol' tb:., ' ' . , ,, it . . dnumberamon themour Home. E F . ranc recto tb most respectable and _ t 615'" ' _aw." we _ p. 't fr" read . it if "W' inatitutionts , an . g . . F intelligent class of men who were now 1 Corr, ctly. As he (Ur. we) uuucr- _ "a , / ' embryo statetrmen, lawyers. iadoss, minis- Eon. Mr. WOOD wished to say that in the l virtually dietranchiiw:d throu h n t b . tstood the "in: all those rated for $200 $31)») Ki, r _ . ters of the Gospel, merchants and manufac- DominionParliameni;,intowhieha8illhadbetyt ' , possessed of real "33,0 IT g 4"', sing . a d$400, respectively, would be entitled tr .4,.f: . I 'tu'GrS- It may be said that the people of introduced unimady referred to,it might be ' any reason for denying. thi: coffins)? ll' the lisnchize. But by the Assogsmeljg my; we". er Ontario would not consent to this mensure. ' reasonable that there should be an Act with l he could hardly believe it possible that a up]: the a.u:plus over $400 W53 rated. There. (reg. Sir, for my part, [have a higher opinion of I respect to the franchise for the Dominion,the F popular Legislature like thi id . fore the mm mc, to entitle to the fruachiise irall T the people. of this ccuuti'y3_ 's.y, do I stand provisions of which might not apply with f , the second reading of this pl: $1723 1,gl,'.t tnugt be of the amounts named, in LX699; 0i BRh, . alone in this opinion, for tHtl J can A. Mae. isqual force in their own Province. In Nova For his own part he should sup rt th iiil '. $400 (Cries of tio! no!) Thoush this mode 't P '33 2 donald-a gentleman man whom probably Scotia and elsewhere the population was loss through all its stages and "990 e 1 tie franchise higher than he would like'to _ " the country does not possess a shrewder ob. in number and more scattered, and in order i tunity with a great deal of i'd'Jf'df GEE)". have it, he would support the Bill being in Illrt' server of the trig? 0:331)? tfltr.,ifitetgti ft obtain a fair vote of dthe inhabitants l hear). , p ure. ( ear, 'ttg, ot this: principle, and trusting theistic "if? ive cheers -in 18 tee ton I m ro use t was necessa to exten the ranchise , e "3 mic t be modified in r. -' to. ;-_-. _-' _ :ltthe "3382" session oi the House of Com "a..." whichryit was not thoughstf; proper, dt': hlr. te,cef,iilt/v"hcf, supported the The arguments of the mover 0612:1321 l, ' . ,3 , . mons, roposes to give to all persons more with the surrounding circumstances, to ex. if; "1130813280 it e iT,d, it extended the considered to be unanswersble, and hedid ~ 333 i", ceipt a? an income of $00. , year the right tend it, and for that a Bill had been intro- ex pesto 'lf ass w o were better able to ; toot feel that they had been answered in any 333,33 " to vote. Turn my proposition rcand--look duced to extend the franchise; but whether ironic Itll . .mo,rt,.r,1tll...? of it than many f degree by the remarks from the other side of ireitiii1 , at it-dissect it - and having done. so, with that Bill would become law or not, was yet } . 33:;ng t tf at" l; ith regard to the amount i, the House. It had been suggested by the E.f,tfr"'ii' t calm and ditrpassioriato minds., unintiuenoed tobe tested. He wished to call attention to i hi heruh 'Ill, t ' e would place it rather Provir cial Secretary and by the Treasurer . 1'5: it ' by the glamour of party considerations, but one fact, and that was, that they ounht to b g ' d9 d is: It', a matter Which could that there could be no stopping mid my be. ' 7 _ _"'",'-' ," ' impressed with a desire to act justly, and l be consistent in this matter. He believed grape Tl at. ter stages ; if" " to the tweeuttheptcsrtsht Bill and "Blvgrsal " Cao, ti), .' F . q fear not the result. (Cheers) ; that his training and habits of thought were tl" 2'l t at m fee hm: d here to-day 3 He could not gee that that argument was any L"'ii'i,'e." b HON. MK. CAMERON said in oiftsring a i ashberal a that of almost any one in the an of'i'l'di'ot1"t"h1'ri,'i' e l not think it more applicable to this Bill than it was ti, ' ' ( . h . . few words in opposition to the second rea 1- House; but he had not yet come to the con. w in 31°: on a IU "use 0;" $30 voters the existing system. It was said that the . ' ii . . . . jug of the Bill, he did not object to the spirit clnsion that. manhood luffrage should be _ mien Pit " Jfd the 'e, c fongeable, and Bill drew an arbitrary line. The line was no t ' or the view which the hon. member for Prer adopted In this Provinee. His opinion had i w re more so d", tt t? st'l' re erred to, who more. arbitrary than that of the edition V ' I cott (Mr. Boyd), had advanced in reference been, and he thought it was the opinion of " 'if, k Cdr',',' o more "all;ml banking frarchise When it was said that in Vina": if, to the character of the class whom he wished both parties, for a number of years, that they 1 c '" te, an "wt?" 'Y' Jrtt,'ft e a body (if ' I o Properiy under the value of 8300 'a'i1'iri :97 - . " _ to benefit by his measure, but he objected had gone. it anything, a litt e too far in the 3 we: as rl, t) pom to, "Pd " intelli- entitle to the irauchiiur--that property of the - . _ that the House. with all the knowledge that t5uyi.on.ot the franchise. (%str, hear). in . . git} "P 3?? "it ole of exerclsmg the item value of 8299 would not-wa, not that draw. . F ' L . had been laid before it, had on two previous Mu,nittie1.iei,t.11tiontr, where the greater 3 C' met)" "10:35]? "t for "g benefit of the ing an arbitrary line? He was of Opinion ' = _ occasions, voted against the introduction of sat of their deliyq were in the matter ot _ l perm 7i, (t eadr, as}? f e was not In that the classes referred to in the Bilt were l 3 _ the measure, and he thought, therefore, that nanar--to which these Local Legislatures , a "doll: o ex en Ing t , rauehiet, too far, fairly entitled to the franchise, and might be .' t, . it was not desirable inthe absence of further bore some resemblance, their powers being '.tnh deguppm-teddth; Bill because he thought safely entrusted with it, whether we looked , ri ' information, that it should be pressed upon aimed restricted to financial questions --no l . t can exten 6 too far already. This to their intelligence, their sobriety their) = l their consideration on the present occasion. one would think of havinga qus1ifieation mtg t seem somewhat of th contradiction, general stood conduct or their, psr,U' 7 The arguments that had been offered to. which was not based on a property qtaslifi" but he would explain It They gave a person tion in the country. 'rs, Treasurer had ' . ' . ' .. . avote who a ed $30 house rent: Mat was i , . ' .. _ - _ day had been offered before: nothing new cation; but there was some diiferense in the p y . , 1 mated thet the neling if the country wa. f had been elicited to show that any grave matter3of the franchise in reference to the l upttrgal estate, although it was professed 1 that we had gone a little too far ahdviv 2 . injustice, or any injustice whatever, except i Dominion. Everyone paid. taxes in the shape , it a em possess real property. Bat the i the criterion of extending the franchise of the sentimental character that had been ; of ousstotnsrs&.o.,t.o.t1y.srhrmirliosand therefore 1 act Ill' t at; it. was real property and i This was his (Mr. Gowu)osrn feeling, and r . _ referred to, had been done to the class of the g an nrgnment might be applied to that House persona ty WWW": and l, they car- ' he supported the Bill because he believed it . community that he wished to enfranchise. ', which would not apply with the same force _ "'dt out. that WmC'PIf' completely they I would bring in a class who would act as a 'l In all times past, at all events in this coun- ", I' ith #9th to th" orca'i'rt.riort W; this mire git: 41131036 1yoles to a man I c.uuL'te.rpt.oiee to the 'iuilutsuee of clssseta,wt1om _ . try,the franchisehad only been accorded to _, lie-urn. " to \iuni.,,ny institutions as l TN o /llt'ld" "H'Oth! Sy 3:1th man who I Q the misting franchise had, perhaps, improp _ property, property Which was of a stable ' "acted to [trow from Kile mu. man'nr for 1l"5aiiil'i' . t e.' .ougit I ere was no Ira. l l .erly ,yhriucd.. (Hear, hear.) Ae regarded , . . nature and character, that property which piggy, ['53 ii 'd) he, i, mama"); ci", '1 o Jee lon do String the franohtee to the , in'ciligesce, there' could be no comparison I 4 , T » was the permanent wealth of the country. I high for., i; g bl ntiments which t? use l i-co. c 'l', prfopose .' w 0 were as .lo.yal and as Ca. l lethu the intelligence oi the min who i _ . which did not move from place to place and hm M 3 Min" lk' i. a 2th the fact t it: is 2: KI exercming the franchise to the bena- l, m'mly tv.cupied a property worth 53 m» and ' never left the country, and which when the I w, uni 9",. m. tranchiv, m , up," who a", - i h old tb country as any other class. He ' that of the man who was in receipt oi an in- voter left the country remained Permanently ply Who-Md an income of or» i. were a: I l {11:11 hsupport this Ihll, and any one ot a . 1 "me of Ihre, value of $1.00, 3500, or :,?l,000. ' ' . , added to the wealth of the country There l dy ied it u a man who Was ham-.- io en mi in ', e c aractcr. l, Hon. Mr. WOOD-we want to encourage T was no change that could be made in this, ; ll: musket against the enteitt'vst a: in we" ', Mr. CLARKE said, if the present Bill was l rumors. All ihat the people in receipt of ur l. 3 'rtattersoiaiasit struck his judgment, ex- try. oncii'ri he not tlsahave a use ? l coined, it would be impossible to draw a 1' cums have to do to entitle thrm to tie i i 'tr'A,tit1.E',ato,,tt "093:3, (lulalifica)tion Mr. Ms KliLi,Alt---L'ertail he mu ': '. r line g'dlta",'/,,d, Io,,', tht to the franchise l fiarjcLiises, is to get ahousa 3 i , w' . . sausage. ear, {gar tt ,mem - , a cons era enum er o men whom, at re- 1 g r ' l . ' a . I ., . would notbegitntraid,thatnumberisof person .i . - - _ 3, . , sent, it would be better to exclude. In T,',; . 1: h r: Semis-f," conlcdusion, repeated that he l . . aye, In number greater than the hr llor. Mr. WOOD il ell,the very m , u-m. , and in the olden tr th 1 . . open ty 1 wou in": and that to that , g _ ' would be tsniranchuusd by this ','l"L,'a'd' l vu concodo, that prirw.iyle, Vii f,'," " , for the 'f)'lfl1fd,1"1,',",'i7ih' e so e 11i1,',1iotbti,"'te l mid they wel.d..ha.re the aid of the member 2 ' , would still remain without the right of v0: l yond the lprinciplo of the hon. inc "h r l paticn of real estate ffe,'dTJlll'f,"'oN'l't,1'h" I hr Centre Wellington (Mr. Former). . 'si,, . Eng. But on what principle were they to g flight???" (,t evei'y. mm. who Winn was, that it was av'ailable to taxation; ano- COMMITTEE OF ELECTIONS 'r'f'r,r, .e deprived ot that right? It would not l 3 . . age, an Wa8 ocstediu the country, ther being that the owners and occupiers of , . I". ' be contended that the man who had resided 1 washable to be cuslled out to "mud the real estate, were c, id d th ; . Mcserg McWuzich, Cumberland, Go V, ' F '4. My five months in idisbrict would notbc 'ust l cont try. (Cheers.) Then the ntat1 who wat, derable of the comm 'ft th 2min. was". ' p, wt and Clarke, were here sworn at the hi. l . as intelligent " a man Gi,' had residedlfor i ham?" "tttite, la'oour or poll tax a" well as whose opinions ('vodl,','"l'l'?hrt, sluggish??? i Clerk's table as members ot the General '5 333 {it months. But if they abandoned the prop ttte/St-yet/til? most; rt.2tie',',t 2;." Another, and a stronger reason, was that the l CoanLittee of Elections. fl Iliii y " y (lamination they must in common sense , h t th . . . o, l "mp y fl'.'.','.?.! tt 13: value of it was easily asetsrtaituUhs, and with ; DEBATE RESUMED. " ' " " go to universal suffrage. He believed that i l t B e prc1Putly was an arbitrary one al. l certainty and that certaint . t di r Bl c. -.' ihe country was by no means ri e for "ch , 3 together. For the reasons he had stated, 9 th d ' . ti f " . y3exxs e Itt no Mr. McCALL (Norfolk) said he had come ' . i, " _ l , , thing. (Cheers ) He wouldp like to ask ', and also for those which had been "Nod 80 1 1rl,"2"irro? :12: g'f,gg,','l'e'alixoi',,1 'tet,'gdi; to the conclusion to oppose this Bill, Lstt . I ' t)',' . the hon. member for Prescott whether the l ably by the hon Provincial Secretary, he was I of this descri tio f o Inrt Xing e va ue t,0sion the property qualification of member a F ' 'e E j amount of $400 of income stood in the "att' T opposed to the second read ng, thinking so st, could be don op "is: £99: _waz'i easy, and I was done away with lie felt then that that l "' ' E." " value in the country " the sum of 8100 at any rate, they might leeye the quesatina ro ed the al on "13 y; ll m the case ', would beastep towardsadiscussion of these i : P2?.vl, dollars of real property, Income was only alone until they saw the action of the Ihr :92; 'A v nelson not be " ascer- l matters, invrlving the extension of the i . Kt _ crertaipsolongaithere were certain relation. minion Patliarrient on it. (Cheers) at); ii L'," 'llc',',',',', come Idem assessor, L (rarrhite to universal suffrage and vote l, - Illll Pt , ships between' the employer and the employ- i Mr. F'h'lutit',R should vote against the thug clzim the fame": " 8 d I, year, and i by ballot He had heard to-day very i . .3" . . . , . . . . V s _ ' ' - - Ere!.,' ed , but property remained at all times. It ' the Bill in consequence of the reductionin could not refuse than is}? t e 'li'd'rf/ ,' little argument adduced m favour of I . 7 u . therefore Struck him that "nothing further the amount of titialiticatiort, some statistics l might be alone "(1%?ng ' it1"et'2,h/' do: ( attending the franchise to the CIT" . l ~ " T was advanced in favour of the Bill than had _ in reference to which he gave. Re could not of the man himself. (hear hear l e Age ! of persons referred to in the Bill. l I d, " .2 r"r been already answered, that the House should understand how any person with such a claimed that the w d ' ' 1d.b he bogged to move that the Bill be not now 3 P, _ not consent to its second reading. Bis hon. small inccrne as $200 a year could consider it wider 1t1e'1r'i,Ut'lu'f"'tadl'f'lld' big" S',',',,)',,,',' read a second time, but that it be read a ' l It,,'- _ - 2312",; 3931' Boyd) had, paid wlyyt he: could t/t"t) gllel'ence to be deprived of a vote. for Prescott put upon it. It was. not only I second time this day a" 'ee!?',', C . _ . i . in! " it dida if? Ttlege,? 1"it"lirt' m: t "age?" were m receipt of tho income pro- the man who receivedthat salary every year. _ Seconded by Mr. CARN EGIE. I 1 F(i':r"i, iii') arty 'lhfl',"lS'lb")ll'ir,/e'l, t'l,U","d,T, 53:111.}, £333,012]: he very well able to own or or whose average receipts amounted to $100 3 l, Mr. CURRlE said he did not rise to op- . l 33. . ' Sh John A, Macdonald . iiiii"aiaLs Sir uired P - y of the rental now 116- a JY") but it included anyone . whose re- 3 i pose the second reading of the Bill. m did . il l ' 'r':" t' John A. Macdonald had 'G"r'ia'iii'iri' a Bill i q M . ( ' . ceipts from anything, or acquired In anyway, 3 i not think the member for Oxford (Mr. Perry) . [ s: F. E, into the Dominion Parliament g measure I T, full" ER disputed some of the state- amounted to t at sum. l, was entitled to all the credit of having .' I l EL ' granting the franchise to iiriiiild that WM ; inch 'lf t o'hon member for Centre Welliug- Mr. BOYD-certainly. ' Moog)? forward_this question. if he re 1 i It no rtratlon why the present iii7G should i on id r. heme}? with reference to the ', Mr. CLABKE--Taken in that sense ever mem red aright it was the membsrfcr Both. , t [l ' . 'r, adopt it If the D I , P li out had 1 amoun of qiuliticat,ion in the Assessment it in th . h . y f well (Mr. McKellar)who first suggested the . 1 . kF:j:,t1,,r - adopted. that and flt,'i'l1ofld,'S 'te, law of Acts (ll last and previous years l and then p cronb ' . ecommunity as an income. f provisions of this Bill tothe Committee on I h Ii-u, the land, Gil, it might be fairly urged as an 1,ht',rt120, say that the hon Secretary had t Mr. 1cliELLAR--0t how much, tLaugh, ', Municipal Institutions. But he J.)Ir. Currie) ( C j ' .4. V argument that it should be adopted in the " e l 9 "Workers of the Bill would com- , or) 3 would go further than this Bill. lie saw ' '_ l l 'it; rr Province, as it was not desirable that there pare 84 0 f, Ttpal property against $100 oi l yy. cykm.rE said the pauper tttl the no reatton why an intelligent merchant carry- _ " 1"'u' should be different franchises for the "we, 'fdl'lThid alt it was not the intention ot.tht l1 thief hadan income. And it any person ing on business in a building which 1 . I ( a ya senution of the people in this House and to real, ro J, aeed $400 of income " guest ' applied, to the assessor, and deposed that ' he rented from mouth to month,.ahouy1 not l . .3 skit the House of Commons. But that measure aid 233:3: y to that value. It had also been l he had a certain income, they must give have the franchise, if it were given to his _ lil, ' had not yet become the law of the land-it 'IT, air 1d8hould be rejected, since it had l him the franchise. The uncertainty of the clerk because he had a salary of 8200. IN hep . . i ia had not been pressed upon the consideration but he T, y negatived twice by the House; I , qualification would p" ace great opportunities the member for Bothwcll made hie, WOW" . ' . 1ilti of the country, and he w" not aware that been fLr/ltr,tt,',tl when the question had , ' for corrupt practices in the hands of un- l tion to the Committee, he (Ur. Currie) stated ' 1 Itl th' there Watt my agitation in the country for the r'1J,','d'ttl1e,h,. he voted against it on scrupulous persons who could by means of l he would support it, provided he woyyl go , . Ill such a measure as the hon. gentleman had turegi u that public opinion was not ma- ': the provisions of this Bill create any number also for making chattel property entitle to 4 _ MI introduced, to show that it was in any way now that"; "inaction, and that it was a l of voters. No objection could be taken to ' the franchise; and he was ready to repeat ' Bil desired. There had been very few petitioy. , 'd2Q'l1J', ti. House. But he was now '. the yrpljeation of persons for this . that offer new. (iiear, hear.) The'member . " " During the last session of Parliament he a," the co te,')', after due consideration, l franchise, because It often happened that a ', for Grenville (Mr. Clarke) hid Itit.1 great t 4 w .. thong t there were one or two petitions pre- tension of 'll) T, Was prepared for this ex- 3 ', man's income was only known to himself; ' stress in his argument on the assertion that 4 v . ' , P. canted, one or them he knew "me from the ! that a line e Iranchise. He thought, also, I i and there were also thousands of the assessor would be obliged to take the , . . _ _ city of Pronto, astd this, year they had had ' of the has)?! he drawn in this description I c"etl where men did not even know i more statement of the party wishing to be i . V 3 , no petitions on the Inhject at all. plrty C use " well as in that of pro- l tie amount of their own incomes, 1' assessed for income. But the law gave the l _ Mr. BOYD-mum, was no petition In lion Mr Wt , aid who was to decide in such case. . anesscr the right to exercise his own .judg- I ,,r, ' _ .,,c-.'lr Ai ' favour of tU Act ot Confederation those who; l)OD..But why not give it to f The effect of admitting the income franchise l u cut on the statement of the party wishing . _'c,iilh'iitict, _ 1fiia (Cheat) . M 0L 5° "Me to military duty? , of this Bill would be almost equivalent to tt be assessed. _ ijiii,liMlllitlk'i)'dla Hon. Mr. CAMERON "idalthoagh it we :0er h li ER said the line must be drawn 'r unive'isil suffrage. The difference would be T Mr. CLARKE -How is the assessor to " Q?" " if , 7 true that therehad been no petitionsin re- thieew 'tre, tm.1 0(mid be " easily drawn in l to slight that they might as well go the lnow? :33: 8ll ' Ri ' {crane-'0 sttl,teii yet it we. also true 1 this "fig" " m that of real property; and ' whole length of miiverasl 'tfate, ".0306- L, Mr CURRIE said the assessor in the vil- iftiti , _ J, "a, "M bien 'tated for Tfl-til 2 entle' .answued the whole of the hon f). I?,,:, was no demand made for mission to ,3 " township or town, as the case might a Aa" y " I.lle, - ~ . Kc, Ir'.- -u'at ,' .- w- " "went the there was no i.bu2..th°..¢1m too-ed " , tdkA,r,j,, x. _ r , J"' ". /iiil i'ltfgEruti'itici' "_,..:, (s%

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