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l4 ET?!" l Mr. CALVIN was of opinion that those 2 who were intelligent should be allowed to C vote, and he thought that the man who Was . receiving an income of $200 or $100 over the ', amount exempted from taxation, should be i considered intelligent. (Hear, hear,) He had on his little island about 120 Voters for members of Parliament. Only two of these men earned $1,000 a year. They were intel. Q ligent, and were this law passed, they would 3 have a right to vote equallly with one of . their 'rawyertr--the man that sawed in the pit-the bottom sawyer. (Laughter.) It was argued that a man who got an income I might be here to day and away tomorrow. 3 Well, if he was away to-morrow, he would I not vote, would het (Laughter,) , AFTER RECESS. 1 Mr. SEXTON resumed the debate. He I called the attention of the Speaker to a f breach of privilege on the part of the hon. 1 member for" North Huron, who. duriug the l absence of the members, had placed bottles E of brine on the desks. This he considered 3 an as-sault on the House. (Laughter , Hoe. _ evr-r, he would speak on the motion before l the House. He considered that the property ': qualifieation should not be the only test of i Intelligence. 1f the man who could secure for 1 himself property to the amount of $200 pos- _ erased the intelligence necessary to exercise the right of the elective franchise, so did the man who was able to earn a certain income. he believed the man who was taxed should he allowed the right to Tote, for in the ata. jcrity of cases it would be found that the i man who earned an income exceeding four hundred dollars was just as well qualiifed to have a voice in the management of public nfuirt, as the man who possessed property to I that amount. Be believed the day was not far distant when taxation would be made the I haiis of the franchise. l mu} m support of his manure. (Hear, Lu.) The House tonight had heard the same tale that they had heard your after w n for the last tmsntrtim or thirty years, i,, Cl an longer, on questions affecting the ex- trrsin n of the frmchlee. He remembered u Mn the franchise in this country was lsated exclnsjvely on the actnsl possession of a patent. homing short of that would en- ti: le n mm to vote. When it was proposed ti): t the {machine should ho ave... .a-.1 LL - 7, Mr. MCKELLA It said that two years ago he had the honour of introducing a resolu- tion embod5ing the principles that were in- volved in the Bill now under discussion. m had reflected on the principles involved in that resolution from that period to the pre- sent time, and had bend it discussed in the Hume and out of the House, and the more he had reflected on the matter, and the more he had heard it discussed, the more con- winced he was of the justice and correctness of the principles involved in his hon, friend's B. 11 And he thought hr, hon friend hem Prescott might well feel proud a' the inability of even two Ministers of the C owr --N bo had atiemntad th- e...» " --- -- "- ["un a); t the franchise should be extended, they ha,, heard the same objections that had been urged to-night, and urged by the snare party -- the Conservative party-ot which the At- torney-Gwen] Watt now 1odiaAinguUhed . number. (Hear, hear). The objection then it» the extension of the franchise was, that it w as a tevolutionary measure, that it was De. n (cutie, and that, it the franchise Were changed, universal suffrage would certainiy be 'L. consequence. Well. it was changed l parties who were in possession of their lands m re entitled to vote, and no evil remit: had fiowed from it. At 3 later period rt was Itill further extended to tarties in occupstion. It n person was ." und ttthe "senor in na-lk.. " - '4 Mr. PARDEE said it was necessary to draw the line somewhere. And the man who was assessed on an income ot $200 was i net as much entitled to the franchise " the msn| who was assessed on a freehold of $200. Both paid taxes into the treasury. The one was just " good a citizen as the other, and contributed " much towards the miterisl wealth of the country as the other, and the chances were that, if called upon todefend the oouhtry, he Was more available for that purpose than the other. Fe was not surprised that the Tres. surer and the Provincial Secretary ehould oppose this measure. Their Conservative tendencies would induce them to do so. But 1e expected that a different course would be taken by their colleague, the Commissioner of Public Works(Mr. Carling) For the last three or four years that hon. gentleman and the member for Bothwell had been running a t It, who should be the fore- most champion for a Liberal franchise, and on this occasion he was sure the hon. gentle- man would not allow himself to be outdone by the member for Bothwell. (Laughter and cheers.) l e wan obliged to obey the lawn that were u ade for him. But against this it was said , l at the man who contributed nothing to the m enue should have no voice in the spend- ing of it, We thus arrived at the principle, that taxation should be the basis of repre- mutation, and with that he quite agreed, for , e believed that universal suffrage could not be tolerated in any country, unless there was unixeraal intelligence and education, which was hardly to be looked for. Mr. PARDEE waI somewhat aurprieed thutthemember for Nowlk (Mr. McCall) rl ould have moved the tist moutha' hoist. He had be u almost let to believe that that ion. gentlemin wee in favour of umvereal au"rege. lie knew this at least, that the honourable gentleman was in favour of extezding the franchise to the other eex. (Hear bar.) But, perhaps, it was his gal- l. ntry which induced him to do that and mt Lecauee he thought they were rated suf- ticiuttly high, to entitle them to vote. (Laughter.) The member for Grenville (Mr. Clarke) was afraid that an income franchise might lead to fraud. But the same objec- tiun would apply to the existing franchise. It was well known that there wasagood deal of fraud practised now for the purpose of enabling parties to get their names ttt the necesmeut roll. (Hear, Hear.) nimarily, it might appear on mt principlea that every citizen of uh age should be entitled to vote,, beciuse Hon. Mr. W00 D-. [Les not every person pay taxes? ' e, in; "iiiu"t'F iw acquaiitéd with thiG'iri cum-unco- of every individual in it. l, Itill further éxigixaedrv to occupstion. It a person was a manor in pone-don of a lot 55%," - V." .. - £4.sz i"st,!id 0 " rn-r-.~- "um: amoun- ments he chose, and, if his amendments were not " reed to, he would then be at liberty to vote for throwing out the Bill at the third reading. He (Mr. McKellar) was not certain that he should himself vote for the sums which his honourable friend had put in the measure, but he would vote for the principle that the class referred to in the Bid, of intelligent, industrious men, who were a source of profit to the country, should not be excluded from exercising the franchise. (Hear, Bear) It was a very an gulrr thing, that, as the law now stood, a u an might become a member of this House, at d come here to make the laws, who was rot at liberty to vote for another to be eent here. He held that the greater contnined u loner r, and that, if a man was qualified to to a member of this House he should be empowered to vote as an elector. (Tsar. heir.) This, Bill would enfrenchiee n Inna Mr. CLARKE-That attacks the pria. ciple. Mr. McKELLAR snidit must hotness. urcd in some way, and what he contended was, that the mode adopted in the existing franchise was a very arbitrary one. The member for Grenville,' as he understood him, had not attached the principle of the Bill, but had dwelt on the difficulty of ascertain- ing how a man we: possessed of a certain income. we. to be the measure of intelligence, surely the man whose abilities and skill enabled him to earn 8400 a par, was fully as well qualified to exercise the franchise " the man who earned, it might be, $100 or $200 a year, but got a vote because he occupied a piece of gm wad of the value of 8200. Hon. Mr. WOOD-U, according to this Bill a man who has $400 income in acity, has trufficient intelligence to vote, how is it that the man who has $300 of income has not '3 riT land, his name was Fa on the 1"iTiriirirtiia roll. and, if the pro rty was of tsuffiaient e value, u was entitled,0 to a vote. When the _',rastrlri" was extended in that way, there "as the same objection that it would be a m: st revolutionary measure, that it would introduce evils of various kinds, and that Universal Suffrage would certainly flow from in just as they had heard to-night. Well, , ti ey had not heard one of those hon. gentle- men get up to-night and say that the classes ti en admitted should now be disframshitusd. (Hear, hear.) The Provincial Secretary, when he rose, said that property should As r-presented, and that ther franchise which _ the friends of this, Bill were contending for was not based on property. He asked the House whether a man receiving in cash a salary of $400, or more, had not a larger, deeper, and more permanent stake in the country than the man who happened to set- tle for a time, perhaps for a few days, just when the assessor came round, upon a lot? The lattermight be merely a monthly tenant, here to-day and away tomorrow. So far " iota-est in real estate went, so far " interest in tl e cour . ry Wt nt, so far as permanence of residence Was concerned, he held that the class which his hon. friend, by his Bill, in. tended to cover, had by far a deeper stake in the pros rity of the country than the other. (Hear, Egan) He thought it might very fairly be enquired. why, in iixing the proper- ty qualification, $200 qualified a man in the country, whilea much higher amount was required in the city-or, why aman assessed for $200 Gould have a vote, while the man arsessed for $199 99 had not. Was it the one cent which qttalitied or dieqitslifitsd a man? It was clear that the fixing of the particular amount was merely an arbitrary or rough may of measuring the intelligence of the man, for he held that intelligence and moral worth should be the true tests of the 'ttli/i/a"'" of a man to exercise the fran. .C ise . r Mr. MCKELLAR said that was the very point he pe, coming to. " lt. moperty Attorney-General MA000NALD-Who Is to be the judge of that t t, recome a member of this House, re to make the laws, who was I to vote for another to be sent held ye! the greater contained t, and, iChis amendments we-e he would then be at liberty to ring out the fhll at the third I (Mr. McKellar) was not he should_ . himself vote who left this me of the Pen. of the country. 'x it; the Univer- lt Mr. SINCLAH ol the Bill, thou um .Lur. mmmuuALL contended that the Home shOuld vote on the principles contained in the Bill, and not on what it did not con- Uin. If the hon. member for Algomo desi- red to ea tend the franchise still further, he u uld introduce a measure for that purpos u Mr. FERGUSON seid this Bill, if planed, would give the franohme to nearly every man ever twenty-one years of age, for there were few who did not earn more than $200 in one way or another. If the framers of tht, Bill intended tn h,6,.-a_, aB Mr. CUMBERLAND can Bill did not serve the nurp Watt intended. If intelligem test, why not include the g universities, who, though wi any income nya,1.i.liediiomr, highest standard of intellect.' Mr. MCUUUGALL conte House should vote on the prim in the Bill, and not on what Uin. If the bon. member f ted to extend the franchise cold introduce a meumm a the measure was a good one, support. Mr. LYON rose to speak of a few charges made against the Conservative party. It had been asserted that they had opposed this measure throughout on the ground that it led to universal suffrage. He contended that this very Bill now before the House was a proof that such an attempt was being made, and for that reason he opposed it. _ Mr. EVANS recommended the hon, mem- ber for South Ontario to make use of the bottle of brine, with which, he observed, each member was furnished, to preserve those brilliant ideas with which he had amused the House. Hts) vlv. Evans) balimnd 'l%"i'i'iia It was TiiFif a proper'inTIeng mate course to bring the question before the House again, so as it possibleto induce mem- bets who had opposed the income franchise formerly, to reverse their votes now. If not carried now, or next session, he be- lieved it would be carried after the next election. (Hear, hear) For his part, he went heartily for the Bill. There was one feature of it--a matter of deuir--whioh he thought should u altered. His hon. friend proposed that the qualitieaiion should be the income over and above the amount exempted from teseMetrtrrnenii. m (Mr, McKellar), as regarded the conferring of the franchise, would be disposed to allow 'no exemptions; but would tax him on the full amount of his income, for the privilege of voting. (Hear, hear.) He had no doubt that the Bill would receive the support of the hon. Commissioner of Public Works, Mr. Carling. That hon. gentleman had been very much exercised about the qualifiettion that was fixed in the Act of 1866. Re raised the outcry that poor men were diUranchissed--that poor men were de- prived of the right of voting. If the hon. gentleman was sincere then, he had now the opportunity of bringing within the pale of the franchise another large, intelligent and in- flvential class,cq ually worthywith those whose interests the hon. gentleman had formerly advocated. He believed, therefore, they would have the support of that hon. gentle. man, (Hear, been) even though it shiuld present the spectacle of a divided Govern. l ment, on this as on some other occasions. m jbelieved if they did not carry the Bill to- l night, they would carry it at no distant day. _ He believed the country was in favour of it, innd that, as its principle must commend i itself to every one ivho.txam.ied it seriously [and dipatrtio.natels1 its ultimate triumph _ must be certain. (Cheers.) olranation ; yet ituhsd not excited his (Dr. MoGill's) passions at all. For the last two sessions this measure had been brought be. fore the Home, without a single new argu- ment to support it; and now it was brought up again in even a worse and more crude state than ever It had degenerated in the hands of the but member for Prescott First, the qualifieaticn was limited to $600; next it was termed to $500, and now it had come down to $400. ln s few more sessions it would, following the same rule, be reduced to universal suffrage. The sole object of the supporters of this Bill was to obtain notoriety - a notoriety which would not survive. (Laughter ) This measure was I Dermal and unfair one It reminded him of the violated sepulchre; it was sprinkled with benevolence and patriot. ism, and apparently got up t) beneti: those who did not desire it. Mr. RYKERT went on tossy that he per- fectly agreed that intelligence should be the qualification, but he would like to know if this was the principle of the Bill , He denied that it was. . It was a money qualuieatiort, and throughout the speech of its framer there was not the slightest proof that there was any such tendency in the Mother Country. I n point M intelligence we were rapidly passing the Mother Country, yet if intelli- ger ce were to be made the qtrsliheation where was theline to be drawn. Let intellectual development be the test; but he must oppose a lil which would give the most ignorant 11821 a right to vote so long as he possessed a certain tsv'arg Dr MCGILL had listened attentively to the introductory speech, and believed it aniounted to nothing" more or less than de- Mr. RYKERT believed the House had a perfect; right to bring up any measure session after session, but if so, some new arguments should be adduced in favour of it. When an attempt was made two years ago to reduce the franchise in the townships no men was more strenuously opposed to it; than the hon. member for Bothwell. Mr. McKELLAR---1 must deny thir. The journals of the country are here ,- let the hon. number show where I ever made such state- menu. a" - we ""16qu now did - "w 'r, tt least ther never expressed ,'ltdtf, 1tain it. He ooked upon this Bill a " non and unworthy of the hon. member had delivered a really lmhiiai speech 1 he introduced it. '. SINCLAIR said thst he we! in f e IPI, A, "19% l,1,,.lit, "had nt ad ',iislllj'.1li', ,.. ,'.,E\:" * - . :'."'M 'Y' .A.\' D contended that the a the uurpnae for which it intelligence was to be the ade the gradustes of the though without the neces- tls2,.lc, which "tds-ii/ui' '. Evans) believed 'e, and deserved his Bill WM ' a notoriety a. (Laughter ) and unfair one DOSsessed the The following notice: have been tttren I---. _, . . tmrely--Aet to vomit no ti r",; 't ', tomb: trutxrtintiated toe oatU In tltr,', dtlya Ions ' ,,' . (ci "g '. Gree1y--Bit1 to amend _ . " f ikii/ td'tflgtlfid'l sumac um ELEM" " o to; two previous '1'l'llrlrl'rJ.' is thought the Bill would create voters who were Intelligent and who were also conscientione 0110th to do what was right, and the persons gaining the franohiee under this Act would not be more liable to intimidation than other classes which now possessed the franchise After the wanin given at Ottawa by the Minister of Justice, If, did not think thtt.tluq would be going far wrong in giving this extension, and that it the Indiana at Algoma oouldsend web a representative as the hon. member for that district, they might trust; the clerk, and accountants of the city of Toronto with the franchise. (Laughter). It was not ne- cessary that this step should lead to univer- sal off rage. M r. BEATTY said he had voted Niinst the Bill v hen it was before the House, and he saw no reason to alter his opinion. The consideration put forward in favour of the Bill was, that the basis of the franchise Was taxation, intelligence, an! obedience to the laws. But if these constituted the true, legitimate basis of the tsuffrvge,they scald not stop short of universal suffrage. Tue suffrage was now truflieiently wide, and bat few voters would be added to the list by this bi!; and was the House for the sake of a few to disturb the basis of the present representative system, and adopt a principle which would lead to universal suffraae? The measure was unwise and hasty, and was not necessary in the face of ureeent circum- stances. NAvs-.Measrtr. Baxter, Boyd, Ca1rin, Christie, Clemens, Aok, Coyng' Crosby, Currie, Evans, Filzsimmonn, low, Wr Dougall, McKellar, McKim, McLeod, Me. Munich, OliYer, Fades, rum Perry, '&sxton,%inclair, Smith (Kent), Smith (uid. dlcsex), Springer end Williams tihmiltim)-- 27. The Bill, consequently, Watt lost. NOVA SCOTIA RESOLUTIONS. Mr. MCKELLAR "mourned that ha had received a telegram from Mr. Blake, desiring to have the resolutions in mhmmsii to Nova Scotie, of which he had gthttt Nth..." down for Monday next. Mr. COCKBURN brieil o osed th Bill. e Y pp i) M r, BOYD then replied on the whole de. lr. te. Be teverelycriticizedthe conductof the hon. member for South Ontario (Dr. M 2G1"). and commented on the arguments that had bo n brought forward. He repented some of the statements that were made in his open- ing speech, and closed with on eloquent ap- pe al to the patriotism of the members to give their assistance in conferring the franchise tll on a class who were continually adding to the capital of the country, and usiating in bearing the burdens of the Mate. M SPRINGER asked whether the mean- ing: of the Bill was that persons in villages shield be possessed of 8200 overthe $400 of the Assessment Law: If so he should vote. for it. Mr. BOYD said it was so. r'tty ~General MACDONALD said he had lis tened to a great deal oi talk and elaboration of what had been said on former occasions, and did not consider it necessary that he should make any lengthy remarks. Former attempts had been made to pass a similar measure to the one now pro- posed, but they had been defeated; and if this Bill was carried, he thought that the leader of the Opposition, who had tried his hand, and failed would have to surrender his place to the hom member for Prescott, (Mr Bey-d.) The rightist voting had always been connected with the soil, and whatever might be the condition elsewhere, there was no doubt that it was an easy matter for a mm to obtain possession of tmffieient real pro- perty in this country to qualify him for the franchise. With reference to the franchise as exercised in Nova Scotie, it must be re- membered that the Dominion Parliament had m t; createda new class of voters,they had only oonfirmssd the right tothose who had possess- ed it before Confederation. In the present case, however, they were legislating for thetnselvetr--for their own country, and they were asked to create an entire new body of voters, to adopt a principle which to his mind, woeld be disastrous to the best ia. terests of the country, and which would ac. ccrdlng to the sliding scale of one hon.gentle- men leedinevitebly to Universal Saifrdge. If it was agreed that taxation gave the right to a vote, why should not a vote be given to ell parties who paid taxes , The effect of the Bill would be to separate the franchise trout the soil, and to destroy the principle which had guided legislation up to the present time. He did not believe that the Bill in the Dominion Parliament would be passed; at any rate, he intended to vote against it. After some humorous remarks in reference totthe massif ilpwhigh the measure had been in roduce t isen preceding Parliaments, the. Hon. Attorney-General concluded by say mg that the hon. member for Prescott ought to have better gauged the feelings, both of the membere'of that House and of the country, before he introduced such a measure, after the defeats of former sessions. The amendment that the Bill be mad Past day tux months was then put, amid consiler- eble exutement, and the result Wtur--r'ss, :10; Days, 27. The division list was " iol.. -7"..- -"'"'""a, uvuovvl, UImUTUU, Carling (London), Carling (Huron), Carnegie, Clarke] Cockburn, Code, Corby, Crsig (illen (zany), Craig (Russell), Cumberland, Eyre. Ferguson, Ferrier, Galbraith, Graham" (Hast. ings), Graheme (York), Greely, H lyS, Hooper, Lauder, Lonnt, Luton, Lyon, Mao. donald, Matehett, Monteith, McCuli (yor. folk), McCall ( Elgin), McGill, Resd,Rioh vdl, Rykert, Secord, Smxth (Leeds and Grenville), Strange, Swiuarton, Tett, Trev Wallis, _Wig,le", Williams (Durham), 'Wilson and WcUL-46. loin. ..-L The House adjourned " 10:4,5 Tyt-carers, 1ieattn Egalter, Cameron lnfm j? , k L3: NOTICES or muons {A i;