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"W tstir ctto 9 mt e tsof Ge" it --- _§_:'hat logoden [ffureporb ber 'tdl",' oilgverthgle re. aphOPBd Iggy on "tt,1, A". tt.et Wa nada tt " er fac eM. poinian G fl " .n e R " Co th t fl an 0n n IT tin pr0c tynmi mgs y We t onl 'aa . ted eed itt Of u1d y at ' m In ieel th - r re- th d g3 of trtyt e D Game," at o copie the ii gem' ppar ' . f 'dl'," of it rat two", are Cs. thi wet .o.tia port ltd e dur, y" w and ),','.il,",a)l,T,' (1!. For the pyming of an Act to declare Caro- line Maria Hersey a trustee for the sale of certain lands, 8w --Frotn Caroline Maria Hersey and others, of Hawkesbury, by Mr. Boyd. Mr. CARNEGIE presented the that report of the Select Committee on Wooden Railways. The Committee asked that leave be granted to them to send for persons. papers, " He moved that leave be granted accordingly. AM' Attorney-General MACDONALD asked the hom gentleman, to explain to what extent he proposed to send for persons and papers. He did not propose to go so far as California? Mr. CARNEGIE stated that the object was to send for Mr. Albert, who was now engaged in building the Quebec and Gosport road, and Mr. Foster, another gentleman who had had experience in building wooden rail. ways. The Committee would be tsatialied with having these two witnesses. The motion was agreed to. GAME LAWS. Mr. TROW asked leave to introduce a Bill to amend the Game Law of Ontario. (Cries of "Explain" He said the Bill was very short. By the old statutes of Canada the privilege was given to shoot deer, oariboe, &o. , to the 1st of February of each year. The late Sir Henry Smith. for some reason or other inexplicable to many leading sportsmen with whom he had convened, had got a Bill pass- ed limiting the time to the 1st of December. Re (Mr. Trow) proposed by this Bill that the time shouldbe extended " least to the 1st of January, so as to include Christmas. the period most suitable for the hunting of game. It was the wish of many parties interested in sports of this kind, that this Bill should - The Bill was read a firat time and ordered to s second reading this day week. CROWN LANDS. Hon. Mr. CAMERON laid on the table re- turn to an address for copies of all Orders in Council and Departmental Orders, touching the Crown Lands, mines and forests. JURORS' EXPENSES. Mr. SEXTON enquired whether the Gov- ernment intend to introduce (this session) a measure for making it incumbent upon cities united ri.th counties for judicial purposes, to my a just proportion of juror's expenses in. curred at the several Courts of Quarter Ses- sxons for such counties. Atty-Gen. MACDONALD seid the Gov. ernment 1nd no intention of iutrodaoin,r any measure on the subject referred to. UPPER CANADA COLLEGE. Mr. CHRISTIE moved the sppointment of 3 Select Committee to enquire into and report upon the endowment and will? of Upper Canada Cellege, and its rel: on! to the educationsl system of the country. also that the several petitions to this House, together with the evidence taken by the Jedueational Committee of last session. should be referred to the Committee, the Committee, to be es follows t the H99. Mr. ab. CHRISTIE belie ht " were many to {armor and?" ua been brought 9p. . t'! Nil") 11tritiy"i'l, draw the attentlon I, of tho mombcu of tU Home to the not that j'iittgiilrltltttuiiiigiolll'e', of "will: Cannon, tu Hon. Mr. McMurrioh, Messy: CoyngCrug, RM L1uder,Butty, MOGlU. 1itrtt..t0ttae), Shnegle, Rykort, Graham tBaatingr), Bays and Gamma. Attorney-Genera M ACDONALD objected to the apwin'ment of the Committee," thit ground that the hon, member had not made at . ttMet. Ile '.slt.uar, like to know what he wialted to ,Aeuy by the Committee, aad to for further txplytatiiiii.' it watt alto not itt .m- shoal be brought up. Tmmsnu, Nov. 18. the chair at three hf ng of some. l spy foundation' whatever, and remained en- ltoreated in _ tuely unsubstantiated. In fact the only . Bill should ingnd of complaint Jny.1/s against the insti- tation was that the Institution mononoliaed md ordered "lltlr, 'mrrmr and did not dintri'mts it i. s'ttllt my the different institutions of tho coun- try. Thr Rev. Ur. llarclay, when mammal info-re tit, Ummui'cm c, when a.ukrd his chief he table re- Emu-M"? ccmpUitt will thtt it, wp from Il Orders in t "h" .'. 0: tis,'. Ht d, use from the Format: and re, teaming ' sol er l zen mar Mime-ls. "(Ht to L1 one." " Cara'.' "Wit: for ayear or -:gl.t~en months, . ' "IG' tout, u, on [Lanai] sad alum tdey l oi tri 3'3 l igh'z::n~1:rs it wow czxellltul not b) "I. the Gov- theCran um- Sohnols which had given them is session) A liyi!.' l";"ff"y mug-anon but. to 1.9?" tan- tupon cities f adiada "High That was toe chief ground purposes, to l of co.m'tltrint, urged by that gentleman agamst expenses in. ll the ""11t1.1tiny; and anqther urged that Quorter Ses- n coutan,ed wuhm It the unnot- l ph? '0! the College, Graaunar School, id the Gov. 1 and Common School system of the c vuutry. . . l The Rev. Dr. liverson, who wan also cello-.1 F odaoing my ', by the hon. member, said he only wished thot to. them were more Upper Canada Colleges to ' alalil. the cushy ; and Ur. McUeul staterlhthte "we t Ing. The hon. memoor, in s or ' . tttit',',',':' Wide cut no one but session, and he could to tll {Jopo not do so this He thought that this sort of a0 t'Plff, thing should notbeailowiidtogoonforalltime V I " Ul',' to come. tad that an institution which Was I. tf this dolng 13-3 ka so Well should not be allowed on! taken b to lie un.dsr charges which were without any 'f'lli some: , fnondntion whatever. lt was due to the f nmittoe the Hour e and to the country that some specmo the Hall. Mr. charges would be made, and he hoped the rich Messrs l House would are?" upon the pommltbee pro- l, st, McGill. I tstrtttog a Specuhe report this year. [he l DI J'll ,harn l Committee ought to be composed of tttoittt l cert, r I genWmen Who were on it last. year, for any l member reading the evidence would atutd m ELD otsieutr1 th very different position from one who hurl mittee,on ttttt heard it given. " u new Committee was to bad not made be oonttituted, it should be formed ol.oyyh" "sowrut he ' men who Were interested in the institution, l .ottiis,at.ti? to and who would give . fair consideration to t Be wielttd the matter. Why, for instmce, should the "also not m hon. member for South Renfrew (ltr. Mo. o former '°" Dougall) be left out, and also the hon. mem. , bar for Bothwell (Mr. McKeuor)? Hon. Proviioiil luaretafi" was chairman, presented a report in reference to the Upper canada College, which stated that some pro- greel. had been made in Investigating the questions in connections with the jouegii,but that it would not be able to re ort thereon that session. He did not inteng'to trouble the House at any length with any reasons for the appointment of a committee, for he felt that the submission of the above report was a declaration of opinion. both of the Govern- ngent and the House, that further investiga- hon was unnecessary, that it would be ne cessary to reappoint the Committee this ses- sion, ind that the result was not complete. He would not refer to the evidence which was taken last session, for he did not think it prudent to do so since it was tpt pertially itC!t, tLt" was printed, but was still I ing undistributed, he supposed, on ', the shelves of the distributing offiets. l, of the House without any bonefit whatever l to the House or to the people of the country. ' (Hear, hear.) He hoped that the Commit. ' tee would be granted, and that a full and I fair investigation would take place. Personal- , l he wished for no other investigation, and l the fact that he had placed upon the Com. ', mittee three gentlemen at least who were ' warm espousers of the College, was, he thought, a good proof that he was fully pre- pared to consider this question. Mr. RYKERT said he was very desirous that there should be fair play in the matter, and thnt a full investigation should be made into all the charge! which were made by the hon. gentleman. It was very desirable that every public institution ehou d feel and know that Pt,rgt liable to be brought to tint Home order to undergo investigation, but he thought that the char ea brought agninst Upper Cursed: College ind entirely foiled. Eight tspecific charges had b3en brought by the hom member before the Com- mitteo of last session, and he believed that every member of that body was of opinion that those char-gee had been made without tuber 'v' Carma-a 1 a) d ti,ur, Mr. RYKERT said although that was 80. _ yet the hon. member knew all about the Le educational system of the country. He would T refer the phi, Committee l but if -tlyt Je,', Mr. McKlllLtaR--.1 wu not on the Com- ' s' mittee last lost-ion. _ "irdt accepted. he moved the additi names of Moss". McKellar, Mgggtfgtllll: Clarke, Sinclalr, Lount and Williams (Dur- ham) to the list proposed by the hon. member for Wentworth. Mr. COYN E thought the proper coum would be to refer the question to the Com- mittee which bed it in hand last session. He desired that an institution, which received a large amount of public moneys, should be brought under the control of the laws of the land; and he hoped the Government would feel it to be their duty to permit a fair and thorough in- Tethigation. The result of such an investigation. he believed, would be to wipe out many prejudices which ex- isted against the institution, and to place it on a proper footing. He thought some im- provement might be introduced; although es to what that should be, it was not his duty at present to express an opinion. Dr. MCGILL also expressed the View that the Committee which dealt with the question last session should deal with it again. Mr. MCKELLAR thought it would be more convenient if the Committee of last session were re-appolnted. They were familiar with the evidence which had been laid before them, and could commence again where they had left off. But, " his hon. friend from North Wentworth had seen proper, for reasons best known to himself, to change the composition of the Committee, he thought it would be well for the House to adopt the hon. gonhlemau'ts motion-and for this reason: He believed it was a fair Committee, and they all hoped that this in- [ stitution would come out unstained from the I rigorous investigation it had been undergo- ing. And he felt it would be even better for the institution, if, after a fair investiga- tion by this Committee, named by his hon. friend himself, it were acquitted of all the charges which had been brought against it, (Hear, hear.) It was very necessary that the investigation should be completed, and that the whole case should be calmly and diapassionately diaousmd---for at present the institution was somewhat under a cloud, in consequence of these charges. A good deal had been said about the large amount of money given to Upper Canada College,which, it was alleged, ought to have been distribut- ed among other Oinstitut'ions tl, t,1i.reiltr, cu "ml'ub v'uv- --Wr_ie--" character. He did not know whether this _ l was so or not. He was not in a position to l I offer an opinion.; it was for this House, ' l through a Committee, to look into the case, 1 and see whether this was so. It was also 1 their duty to look into the workings of the I , imstituiiom Uf course. unless a fair i, , mvestitgatron were made, the result l, f l would be most damaging to Upper Canada 1 1 College. Believing there would be an im- i , partial report, and hoping it would be in ! favour of Upper Canada College, he consid- I f ered it might be better for the College, and l, strengthen their position, to have the repoit from a new committee, selected by the hon. gentle man who had made the charges. Hon. Mr CAMERON said that those who were friendly to Upper Canada College, he had no doubt, were as desirous of a full in. vestigation asthe hon. member for Went- worth. It was desirable there should has full inquiry into the services and bers.e,l%s of l that Gtftutiontothe country. as well as . into any particular grievance that mght be alhged to exirt'in Connection with it. Aul _ he was otiu'rod that the gentlemen named. [ I, by his hon. friend from Lincoln, would be i most anxious that every matter relating to ' Upper Canada Collage should be fairly and T thoroughly investigated. So far from those friendly to the institution believing that any ' investigation could do it bar" . rtaey believed it. would do it an immense deal of good. The l _ inquiry, so far as it had gone, had tended very materially to the advantage of the insti- tution, so much so that the accommodation was far too small for the admission of the applicants. He was satisfied that it was the publicity given to the character oi the iretilution by the investigation of last session, which bad in a great measure brought about this result. He believed any fair en- quiry uould show that the betstits conferred . on the country were more than oommeueu rate with the expense it involved-while if the endowments of the College were dist,ri- I Lined among oiher institutions through the country, they would be a more hasstelle to each, and would confer no appreciable bone. fit on the country. Mr. MUDOUGALL was decidedly of opin- ion that the House should not accept the Committee, moved by the member for Went- worth, or with the additions made to it by the member for Lincoln-but that the , Committee of last Session should be re up- ( pointed. l l } Mr. RYKIth'r----IGt; is what I want, and I took the course of moving the addition of names to the Committee proposed by the member for Wentworth; simply because that -, hom gentleman wouldnot consent to take the old Committee. F 1 Mr. McDOUGALL said, if the Committee _ had made a report on the evidence laid be- ' fore them last Session, that report must have been entirely favourable to the institution. . He spoke, without any prejudice in in the matter never having had anything to do with Upper V Canada College, bat he had had occasion to etc the good effects produced by the educa- ' tion given in that institution. It had little weight in his mind, that; particular masters - .. a I I, _L__-1.a 1.....- "V'b"' -- --_-e" #77777, _ u of country Grammar Schools should have their prospects injured, from not being able to sustain a competition with. Upper Canada. College, so long as tho bulk of the popula- tion requiring a superior education were bo. nefitted.. Unless evidence could be brought forward, vastly stronger than any that had yet been produced, he was aatisfed that they would be doing a great wrong if they were to divert from Upper Canada College, any portion of its endowments. He desired," the some time, to see the Grnmmsr Schools flourish ; and if they were not now osffioienhly supported by Government money, let them get additional support. (Hear, hear.) The Government had nowalerge amount of money on hand-over 82,000,000 it won "id-and if it were really true that Grammar Schools suffered from want of aut. fioient support, he did not see why a por- l tt of that reserve should not be given I t em. Mr. FERGUSON thought the her for TirGturrteurh,ty,g4, xield the mem- ielé "io, the WET! Mt generally expressed "trr-ntl,"' Home, tnil agree to have the some Commie. tee "mounted as made the investigation lat session. If he would not "res to this, it might very well be alleged that It was, be. cause he had found that that Committee did not suit his views. If the hon. gentleman would not accept this proposition, it would become his (Mr. F. 's) duty to move that the old Committee be reappointed. Mr. CLARKE drew attention to the rule . of the House, declaring that no select com- mittee should consist of more than fifteen me mbers and the mover ~whereu the Com- mittee proposed by the member for Simeon consisted of twenty-two members. Mr. FERGUSON was aware of the exis- tence of such a rule, but presumed It would not be irivttired on this pension any more than it was last session. Hon. Mr. WOOD thought it mod extra. ordinary that the member for Wentworth should not have named the same Committee as had this matter in hand last. tseaaion. In all his Parlimentnry experience he hurl never known a. one in which a committee had left an investigetion unfinished " the close of one session, and a new committee had_ been tppointed to continue the investi- . Hon. Mr. WOOD said that made it so much the worse, and had the appearance as if the hon. gentleman had simply selected i from last year's Committee the names which g would suit himself. He (Mr.W.) was desirous that the fullest investigation should be nude _ If it was a fact that Upper Canada College l did not yield benefits corresponding to the I amount of its endowments, let that fact be I known. But, it on the other hand, it was a act that the ineiitntion was a credit to the cu ur: ty, and that its advantages were so ap- jm aim ed that the number of applicants ex- ceeded the accommodation-it having been I m cesear} , recently, to refuse admission to u me forty or fifty who applied for it, which . he had occasion to know was a fact. having l Mme it.) s of his own. attending the College -- dr, in ht that fact be known. gation in th'e. next. gaulon m the next. 1 _ Mr. CHRISTIE said there we: only one 1 name on the Committee he had proposed, l, which was not; embreoed in the list ot last ptr.. Mr. LAUDER was not sure but the mom in for Wentworth had some reason to find fault mth the composition oi the Committee last year. Some of its members were strocg. lo prr judiccd in favour of the institution, and had not scruplcd to declare that they were its warm friends, telling how rapidly, "hen boys, they had advanced from one form to another. One learned gentleman had cm. stituted himself a judge, and refused to put motxons which did not suit himself. Mr. CUMBERLAND thought if any gen- tltman was open to the charge the hon. gentleman who had just spoken had brought against his colleagues, it was himself. The rm tuber for South Grey had shown extreme sensitiveness during the proceedings of the Cotrmittee. Mr. SINCLAIR said his name, with others, had been left out, but he would not urge that their names should be restored. As a whole, he had confidence in the Committee 'r, named by the member for North Wentworth, and believed their report could only result in i strengthening the institution. Mr. CRA'd1 (Glengsry) urged tint the C l marittee of last Session should again have marge of the investigation. He desired that the lns'iiution should have a fair hearing, and would be sorry to see a new Committee appointed. Mr. RYKERT withdrew his amendment. M r PARDEE had no doubt the member for Wentworth would yield, to the general desire of the House. It should be remember- ed, however, that the course he had adopted was the only one open tothe hon. gentleman, looking to the rule that no Select Committee should consist of more than fifireen members The Committee of last session we: appointed, not for this special purpose, but on the gen- eral subject of the Education laws. I Mr. RYRERT) said the member for Went. worth had put 16 names on his Committee, and had put at least the name of one mem- ber who was not on the Committee last yen; _ so that the argument of the hon member for C Lambton fell to the ground. " Mr. CHRISTIE said he must confess that he was not satisfied with the proceedings of the Committee last session. How could he he so, when the Chairman decTared that, in prosecuting the enquiry, he considered lin. eelf the Court? He contended that several of his charges had been fully sustained by the evrdence of last session. it had been i proved that a master dismissed, it was said, for grossly immoral conduct, had been for , fifteen or eixteen years inreceipt of a pension {run the College funds of $1,000 per annum, and that other parties were receiving pensions, who were quite. capable of earning a respectable living. It had been proved. also that the College had very im- properly taken possession of the Grammar School property, leaving the Grammar School without adequate accommodation As regarded the composition of the Commit- tee, he was willing to withdraw the list he had submitted, and to substitute the list of the Committee. as organized last session. At l the same time he must express the hope that ' the warmth of feeling exhibited on the Corn. ', mittee last session would not be manifested again. Mr. CUMBERLAND could not allow the n oticn to be withdrawn, without bringing to the notice of the House the eve lenguege m do T so of by the member gr Wentwortb, with reference to one of the late odious ot Upper Canada. College. He could not help thinking that the hon gentlemen had made that reference without due consideration, end that when he came to consider the lan- _ gusge he had used, he would, before with. drawing hie resolution, withdraw that lan. guege. The hon. gentlemnn had no right to presume to onnveu the Itrength of the u- parte evidence laid before the Committee lest session ; end he should not have dared to point to my of tint eri. dence as establishing on nllegetion of gran immorality with regard to e gentlemen who stocd well in the public estimation. He (Mr. Cumberland) w" e member of the Senate of Toronto University at the time the chemo wn made. and he challenged the member 'iarlGe.e, and he challenged the memuo. for Wentwoxth by ttttr tut there Wu 8 confess that the i333: