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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 24 Nov 1869, p. 1

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Mr. Barber----From John Dewar and othaers _ of Milton, for an Act to render the Benchers of the Law Society elective. Mr. Oliver--From J. McCaughey and others of Ingersoll, praying the same. Mr. Coyne--From Alexander McDonald, | of Hamilton, pravyisg for an Act to revive "tho charter oi the Hamiiton and Port Dover Railway Co. for cortain purposes. Mr. Paxton--From the Whithy and Port Perry Railway Co., praying for an Act to smead their charter. Mr. Hayes--From tho Township Council of East Wawanosh, for share in the Land 4mprovement Fund, Hon. Mr. Cameron--From George Venal and others, of Toronto, praying for amead-- ments to the municipal iaws, so far as la-- iRbourers sre affected. WaepxE®Esopay, Nov. 24, 1889 The SPEAKER took the chair at thros 'o'clock.. The following petitions were presented :-- By Mr. Christie--From Thomas Stock and 196 others of East Flamboro', praying thas no alteration in the school law may taks place, as proposed in the Bill now before the Hoeuse. Mr. Williaims--From the Hamilton We lcyan Female College, praying for a Bill to amend then Act of incorporatioa. Mr. Fitzsimmons--From J. B. J. Robin-- zon and others of Newark, for an Act to in-- corporate them under the name of the 'C'Brockvillc Chemical aad Superphosphate 4 o." Mr. Eyrs--From William McConnsll and others, of Northumbcrland, praying for an Act to separate certain townships. Mr,. Christie--From Rev, Mr. 'King aud others of Toronto for the repeal of that por-- tion of the Municipsl Assessment Act which exempts from taxation the salaries and resi-- dences of clergymsn. Mr. Wigle--From tha Town Council of Windsor, for an Actto enable the electors to decide by vote upon the erection of a gaol and court bouse. For the establishment of an Asylum for 'the Blind--By Mr. Smith--From the 'Town Courcil of Chatham ; by Mr. Christis--from the Township Council of Beverley ; by Mr. Galbraith--from the Township Counsil of Ramsay; by Mr. Beatty--from the Village of Welland; by Mr. Ssxton--from the Township ~of Binbrook ; by Mr. Hays--from the Town-- ship Council of Fast Wawanosh ; by Mr. Ferguson--from the Township Council of Mulmur. Mr. Scott--From the Brockville atrd Ot-- tawa Railway Company, for an Act to enable them to sell a part of their line to the Can-- zcda Central Railway Company, Mr. Grahame--From the Weston Church School, for an Act of Incorporation. For an Act to enable the Erie and Niagara 'Railway to extend their line--By Mr. Pardse --From Jobhn McKenzie and others, of Pas-- Srolia; from Patrick McLaughlin and others. of Moore; from the Village Council of Oil Eprings; form P. Barclay and others, of Pe-- trolia By Mr. McCall--From E. S. Hellger and others, ot Walshingham ; from R. Kil. master and others, of Walshingham. By Mr. Baxter--From Joseph Hall and other, of 'Cayuga. Mr. Ferrier--From the Village Council of Elora, praying for an Act to legalize a cer-- tain by.law of said village. NMr. Fitzsimmons--From David Ford Jones ard others of Gananogque, for an Act to ro-- lieve him (Mr. Jones) from certain trusts Mr, Wallis--From the City Council of Teronto, for an Act to authorizs them t> exempt the Sungar Relinery of John Ald well from taxation. Mr. Boulter--From Hon. B. Flint and others of Hastings, for an Act to incorprrate a company for the construction of a Railway from Kingston to Madoc. LECISLATURE OF ONTARIO, Mr. Scott--From the " Ottawa Mechanics' Institute" and the "Otfawa Natural His. tory Society," for an Act to amalgamato the two societies under the name of the "Obtawa Literary and Scientific Society," Mr. Greely--From George O'Leary and «others, of the Township of Reach, for certain smerdments to the Insolvent Act. Mr, Wallis--From John A. Aldwell, of Toronto, for an Act to incorporate the To-- ronto Sugar Retinery, and to exempt the same from taxation. _ 1. £." ard "L. 8. F.'" --the Fees, the Fee Fund, and the Fees, The total of thess fe, between $70,000 and $80,000 Consolidated Fee Fund was . fees then goin mg 5 E;"mhd'"d Fund _ _ of the Province, The Fe# Fund originated many years 220 AS 2 fund for the' payment of |© _ the Judges of District Courts, 'This contin ued for a time, until the Judges were paid by galary, when the Fee Fund was commuted | in as far as it would go to pay the salaries 0; \ | the Judges. _ The fees were extended to th | Division Courts, and were kept in a separato form in the Public Accounts, under the do. signation of the "F F. Fund." The Law Society Fund was imposed by Art of Parlia ment for the purpose of enabling the Law 8o. ciety to provide accommouation for the Sq. perior Courts. _ Orgoode Hall was, in great part, ore result of that fund ; and on the 'credit of there fee®, Gebentures wers issued by the Province of Upper Canada, It was mot necersary for him to go into any partica-- Jars with reference to the debentures, and he would only say that about $16,000 of tham were now outstanding; and in consequence of the improvements that had been made in Orgoode Hall and elsewhers, the debhts that . syere founded on those fees were standing in the Public Accounts st $140,000, in addition ' to the sum of $16,000 of debentures, making the debt of the Law Socisty on account of this fee fund to stand at about $150,000. To 'this fund was also charged the expenses of . Clerks of Assize in the different counties, and | the issuing of precepes by the Clerks of As-- ' sBize in the City of Poronto. _ The amount of | fees of the Law Society--and this was the | reason for which hs more particularly wishedto \ introduce this Bill--amounted to between | ($14,000 or $15,000 a year, which was quite | ~ large enough to pay the interest on this debt, -- and to make a considerable reduction on the 'principal -- In 1867, the principal was re-- duced by upwards of $4,000; and, of courss, the reduction would be the greater as the principle was paid off, so the interest iwould then beless, and, in the courss of scme ycears, this Gdebt would be entirely |ewept away. It would then hbe for the Legis lature to say if in the future these fees ghould be continued, or Giscontinued, or whether they be collected in some other form,. As to the other two distinctions of 'fees, they now had the control of these fees, and ro necessity existing for keeping \these fee funds distinct from the Conszolidat ed Furd, be proposed in this Bili to unite . these feer; in fact, to unite the three funds, . +« taking the average income of the Law So-- | ciety's fees for five years. He proposed this | change for the purpose of obviating what caused to the professional man great incon-- venience and trouble by the dilferent ac courts, and stamps, and funds, and equal ® incumbrance to the distribution of stamos also, The necesssity of keeping thee various accounts, together with mansy oth=r reasors, was very troublesome. He hai communicated with the Fresident of ths Law Society, and he said that so far as th Law Society was concerned, thoy were quit: wrilling to apree to this alteration, a=d4 that the present system was, in fact, only estas lished to defray the expenses of the courts; and that when this debt was wiped out, it would te for the Legislature to say whas they woula do with them He,therefore, pro posed to issue a new stamp, and to have on'!y ope stamp, but, of course, of different d«-- mominations and also to put into one account in the Consolidated Revenue the entire pro-- ceeds of the three sources of revenue, charging the Consolidated Revenue only with the amount of the average arnual income of the Law Society from its fees. He also pro posed to do away with what was called the Grammar School Measurs Fund, and to Jo away with any distinction that might esist in reference to that portion of the Commo»r ichogl Fund which shall be awarded to the rovince of Ontario, 'Lhe Common School Fund arises out of a certain portion of mimy acres of land that have been set apart, and ' the Statute provided that the capital of the Fund should not be entrenched upon, an!: should be kept entirely apart for the uss o' the Province until it reached the total of 8200,0()() It had never yet rewhed that amount, and although grants had been ms1 in respect of it it had always bsen kept dis-- tinct, and the grants to schools had been g:id out of current revenue. Thers would no gain in the continuance of the accounts !9 their present form, unloss it was to mys-- | tify them. People did not take the trouble | to urderstand them, and loss was occasioned th.ereby. It was not proposed to interfere with these funds _ The Income Fund and the Crammar Schoo! Fund aroge from the Interest of the capital of the fund standing at $332, 000. There could be no harm so far as he could | see in giving up these funds, and he propos-- | ;;l t:he"':o"' to give them up, and to provide . i'. nl:lll?:xt': them year by year, a voto of Par | The Bill was then read a first tims, and the second reading fixed for Friday. oTHER FIRST READINGS. The following Bills were also. introduced, «and read a first time :-- Mr, CUMBEERLAND--'TO Axtahligh ma._! Pig' Mr, COLGUHOUN--To authoriss the brustees of the Presbyterian Church in th= Township of finch, and in connection with that church, situated 0n 106 14 im gho said towpghip. Mr. CRAIG (Glengarry),enquired whether the Governmert intend to ro--enact; the Sta-- trte whick authorized ail to be giyen by Government to the repairing of gaols ? , _ Aity..Gen, MACDONALD was understoo1 Mr., McKELLAR--To smond tho Act in corporating the Erie ard Niazara Extonsion Railway Company, and to changs iss neame, Mr. RYEKERT --To legaliso the amals. mation of the Cobourg and Peterborou: Railway Company, and the Marmorsa Iro Company. Hor, Mr. CAMERON--To amend the A : incorporating thes 'Toromto and Nipissie; Railway, Mr. CLARKE----To amend ths La; T jt ing to Bills of ladivg. aiw relas Mr, COYNE--To amen4t the chartor of Port Credit Harbour Company, cipal institutions rFPAIRTING OF® GA9LS, iND--To establish muni-- . in the district of Alz>--

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