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Mr. OLIVER proposed su smeudmout to clause 17, having miard to running powers. Hon. Mr. WOOD ssid the chase vs: a very long one, and should be printed before being " mitted to the House. Hon. Mr. CAMERON, and Mr. PAR'. DEE, concurred. Mr MCKELLAR thought lt-mlaht be con- sidered now, and, tt scceptod, it could be afterwards printed. The discussion was dropped, and Mr. RYKERT moved that clsusos 18, 19 and 20 he struck out. Tho thtoo clauses were struck out, and the remaining clauses sud schedule A was car- Hed. Schedule B wss struck out. upon the am ii'iG $12M. "m should hp" voted astimt it In Committee, and untold vote against it now. The clause proposed by Mr. OLIVER was then brought forward. and curried. After u few word: from Mr. Melton», or planning the action of the Committee, the amendment was curled. The Bill was reported with amandaumU, which were concurred in. After some further discussion the Bill was ordered for a third reading to-morrow. ERIE AND NIAGARA EXTENSION RAILWAY. Mr. MCKELLAR moved'that the Bonn go into Committee on Bill (No. 36), to amend the Act incorporating the Erie and Niagara Extension Railway Company, and to oh was its name to the Canada Southern Railway Company. Mr. WILLIAMS (Durham) in the chair. Mr. McCALL (Norfolk) moved the adop- tion of a clause making some change: in the names of the Company. Hon. Mr. CAMERON aid the hon. mem- ber for Bothwell must have bean asleep to come no late with his objection. Mr. MCKELLAR ol jochd to the reception of the report of the Committee. Mr. MCKELLAR objected to this sharp pructice. He objected to the reception of the report from the moment it ems out ot Committee. Mr. MCKELLAR expinined that it wu desired to enlerge the Board, and to replace a couple of directors who had resigned. The amendment was carried. On chase 2, to euthorize the Company to construct a bunch line from St. Themes to a point on the St. Clair River, a discussion nose. Mr. RirKERT an it mu: now too late to object, the report Ind been received. Hon. Mr. CAMERON wished "know the reason for this change. Mr. SCOTT! (Ottawa) objected to em- I, powering the CoatpartytooonBi;ruoii . line I which wu to be a rival to the Grand Trunk 1 line. The only object of this newline was 1 to enable New 'York merchmts to get pork 2 and flour from Chicago 36 or 48 hours earlier than by any existing route. It wee hardly 35ml policy Ao. create tivil lines to the Mr, MCKELLAR said, if we were to con- i etxuct no more lines in the Province till the 1 Grand Trunk Railwey could pey its debts, then there would be no more railways built in Ontario within the lifetime of any member of this House. He believed no one would deny that the route over which this line was to u constructed we: one of the most fertile in the Province. That section of the country alone required to be opened up. Through it ley the ehorteet route to the Western States. The tradio from the west was increasing I - dey. It wee en immense traffi3; ' and by merely ellowing American trains to neee through our territory,which now peer to the eouth of the Lake, would leeve 31.000,- 000 in the country every year. The question wee not whether it wee going to injure the Greed Trunk Railway or the Greet Western Railway. It them two linen were extrevec gently built it ehould not interfere with the lntereete of the country. He could eee n) hem that could reeult from permitting the Americen trailch to pen through our a. T..R.,'which must be sustained. It the G. T. It. and G. W. R. were doing a large and profitable business, it would be well enough to permit American speculntore to come in and construct rival lines. The point was nimply this, it these rival lines were allowed to be built, Canada would hwe to step in again and help the Grand Trunk Railway. 1 Ben. Mr. CAMERON presented the re- i, port of the Inspector ot Registry Offitttm for i, the put gear. Hon. Mr. WOOD said the Province of Canada had got a long line of railway, ex tending from Sarnia to Riviere du Loup, at a coet of fifteen millions, which he con- sidered a comparatively small sum, for the large benefits derived from it. The Great Weston: Railway, too, was of lar. mense importance to the country, particular- ly in view of our preeent commercial rela- tions with the United States. Now, It a line were to be built from St. Thomas to Amheretbnrg, it would receive his hear-g as- sent. But the proposition before the ouse was to construct a line through from Buffalo to the St. Clair. The rouse xoae for recess at six o'clock, Aitu Heels, Hon. Mr. W0 JD govo notice that. he i ehould move that the House ehould go into ', Committee ot Wars and Menu tomorrow. 1. THE CANADA SOUTHERN LINE. ! Hon. Mr. W0 "JD traid that it was proposed i to make a line over the some route which the l, House had moody granted a chute: for. m 1 thought the only reasonable thing the Home could do would be to grout a ohm-tel- from St. ' Thomas to Windsor. m thought, however, that the Bill next in order was promoted in such th manner as to convince him that it was _ , more likely to be constructed then Thom _ son's line. Bo thought it would be unwise, . august and injurious to grant this charter , mining over the same line. Mr. Mc I. EGISTRY OFFICES. WAYS AND MEANS. KELL AR aid it to be "i, very iiTii'Girai the 'iriiriGriiirhbn. genua- j,1,l, . man lo oppoae the Bdl, on the ground tint 431 I the has was y.s.tupieA But he had immity 1.. I iuprorted . Bill wleloh cums under the "ma ,"t,' "guinea". It seemed very illogical in him , I thus to not. _ r..-" . .. Mr. OLIVER laid the House would be tstultityhtg, itself by granting a cutter to this company to construct a line over a route which hid b_e_en . 11readtgr,,ttttd, to another Hon My WOOD said every one must ail. mit that it was morally impossible for my company to fulfil all the necessary require- "adu---huAutring the oonsultstion of capital- ists, probably in England and elsewhere, to the ffoatlng and construction of a railway- " before the lat of March. It was utt arly ia. possible, and he considered the charter as preotlc ally tfile. .._- -- -I "AW", ____ta L. ccmpeny. m did not believe Mr. Thom .. son should get; this extension, because it was not likely that he would do my more toward the construction of the road in the future than he had in the past. Mr. EAYS considered that the good faith of the company was strongly sustained by the fact that he was prepared to deposit the $200,000 as a guarantee. He thought tint the House should give, Mr. Thomson the extension he desired. It would be nothing but fair play to Mr.Thomson to grant his desire for an alteration of gauge an his extension to St. Clair. Mr, LYON said he had voted against the Bill in Committee, for, after hearing all the evidence, he came to the conclusion, " an independent person. that Mr. 1.Thomsco'n Hon. Mr. CAMERON said that the pro- moter of the Bill, when he introduced the clause into the Bill in Committee. and found that it was opposed, immediately dropped it, saying that he would bring it up again in the House. m supported the Bill which had already passed the Committee, because he thought the district would be better served. He did so, because the parties proposing the other line were better able to construct the line. It was quite clear if they granted this charter, the etfect of it would be to interfere with a new charter. He was eager to see a line of railway from St. Thomas to the St, Clair, and he thought that the charter already granted would be much ' more likely to construct the line. He raised some objections to the names ot some of the Directors being changed. """t""""t'".r' w""-"-'-. He--""" was unable to construct the line. He voted against the preamble, but the Home told him that he had given " erroneous one. He accepted that decision, and he would, therefore, go in favour of the extension. They ought to consider the Bill on its merits, and give them a proper Bill,euch as they required. _Mr. MCCAI:L (Norton) rose to a point of order. The clause referred to had passed. Hon. Mr. CAMERON said the hon. mem- ber did not appear BO acute on this question as usual. He believed that it was inexpedi- ant to grant a charter to a cor oration which had ehown itself incapable of doing what it already poymyed the charter to do l and when they had a Company who were better able to accomplish the work, and prepared, to 1:tete,'?e it, they should give then the c alter. Mr. PARDEE felt interested in the Company " rzpresenting a district which was greatly interested in the oorstruction of the line He thought l Mr. Thomson had a greater right l for consideration at their hands than either I ct tho other two Bills, because his Bill so far i " it slready went was the law of the land. ; Be had a vested right in the route. Bat it ; was urged that Mr. Themsou did not show i that he had the ability to build this road be- l tween tit. Thomas and Lake " Clair. If it l was built by an independent company, it would be but a more local line, It would be l impossible to get any local company to sub- t, scribe their money to build such a road to St l Clair. Mr. Thomson was more able to l build iheline than Mr. Hethaway. Mr. l Thomson was connected with the Michigan I Air Line. who were prepared to raise money ' to organize the company and to assist l in the construction of the line. As to? the necesssity of the road, there was a 1 large district, sixty miles long and forty l broad, which only required railway accom- l modaiion to open it. The House had already declared that, the read was required and had l granted a charter for it. The people l along the route were aware of Mr. Thom- son's powers to build this line, and if this was the case, why should they refuse the line ? He did not think that they were ias. tified in refusing the desire of Mr. Thomson. They would never get a line exoa t it was through the Michigan Air Liar, and he did not, thrrcfore, think that it was right for them to refuse that charter which was now ' desired: They withdrew the clause in Corn. mittee in order to bring it up batons the Home, but it was with the full understand- ing that it was to be introduced into the Bruise.- He believed that taking the re- quirements of the country and the idea of the ccuntry, that Mr. Thomson had the power tomalge the line; that it would be very wrong if they refused to grant this charter which would confer so large an amount of benefit upon the district. In answer to Mr. Wood, Mr. PARDEE "id that he felt so oonfi. dent that the line could be organized by the Michigan Government that he believed it could tysoyganimsd before the lat of March, ttrequired. Hon. Mr. WOOD seid the House had practically refused to grant the extension. The charter involved certain conditions, and the Home believing that though the country required. a road, Mr. Thomson was unable to meet the requirements, thought it right to refuse the extension sought for. , Hon Mr. WOOD read from a prospeotm, issued by Mr. Thomson, a statement to the effect that the Company could not be organ. ized before the 10th Much. He had de- clared within his htraring that the exception ot the suspensory chase in the Great West- ern charter was the extinction of every vitsl power in hit oharter. There were a good many other fiol& in which Mr. Thomson might expend his energiel. Hen. Mr. RICHARDS laid the fact w" shat the Great Western had been for eighteen years striving ugsinrt thin line, but Mr, Thornton had forced them to take the nut. ter '12 The htm. Pmyipoid Trauma hsd "ikijiiiiV into thy question a certain -iiIiiiiitt> ter of logic, which was of such a dsucrlption that he (the Commlspioner of Crown Lands) could only ytr.thtt , was not for such logic that ballad ioints4 13.19: 'Y cue at his cello» guee He argued that the House would etultify itself by pulsing this: Bill. But what was the fact? Did not the hon. gentleman know that the opinions of a committee on one Bill did not show their opinions on the other Bill? Did he not know thet there were other members of. the Home, who were not present on the Bill, who might be present now? It would be in the hon. Tremrer'a opiricn beyond the power of the Houseto oppoee n Bill that had gone through n Com- mittee. They all trneqr-- - Hon. Mr. WOOD-I the Air Line Bill. add pm csnnot pass Hon. Mr. RICHARDS could not under- stand the logic of the hon. gentlemen. He believed that it was perfectly inconsistent to introduce a Bill one day and to vote against it the next. It wee the fault of the Committee that there should be an opportu- nity for greater freedom of speech, which al. lowed his hon. friend the Treunrer to have the opportunity of epeeklng two or three times, as he had done that evening. It was something beyond the hon. Treasurer a usual position and logic in that House. Mr. sTRhNG1il--0h, he in Grand Trunk to night. Eon. Mr. RICHARDS contended that they were the first in the field, and had cleared the ground to a considerable extent. They had drawn the public? attention to this, measure, and a considerable time had been. spent by Mr. Thomson in various quarters, and he had produced evidence that he would be able to make thin line. JLs might ask be able to make thin line. He might ask whether there wan ever a railway company that had not come in, two or three years alter its charter was originally granted, to have some alterations effected in it: charter The Welland Canal and the Northern Itsil. way had come again and again to the Legh- lature to nah for alterations. Htd.ettnett to its charter. The result had been the lame in all railways, and he did not think that they should refuse the right of con- structing the line, when the opponent: of the Bill admitted that ever effort had bean nude to secure the :11ch ofy the scheme. and for securing for it a certain amount of success: He believed that there ya: a prepttel Ile': no "casuvvu mu-- ._..v H... s. . . cess before them, and he therefore thought ' , i that it was very reasonable in the promoters ' l to ask for a little extension of time. ', , Mr. RYKERT said, that he did not object 1 1 to the extension of the time, but he insisted l on the promoter's showing that he had the 1 ability to build the line. His hon. friend l had said that he was able to obtain $200,000 l and they had evidence that he could not ob- , tain one single dollar from the Michigan Air Line Company. They could not use one l single dollar in constructing the road. The laws of the State of Michigan did not allow l them to spend one single dollar in a foreign i country. I Mr, 'STRANGE--" Louder." a Mr l-{YKERT said that word was the firat i i the had heard from the hon. member since : l he had been in the House. lithe evidence '-, 5 showed that Thomson could not build the ', line, then they ought not to grant him this ': charter. If they granted the wishes of Mr. Thomson, he be ieved that the district of i country, where a road is greatly wanted, I would be without one for years. The House a had already admitted that the district ought l. 1* to have railway accommodation, and t ey i ought therefore to refuse to grant such tthar- '; ters as would never be ta1filod. They ought i not to encourage Mr. Thomson to come here i and get railway charters, It they wished to i see the country ever served by railways. i Mr. CLARKE said the first objection was ) that two companies should not hold the same 'i line of road. is thought no railway company I shculd obiect to another getting a charter to ' l build a line which would be a competing i "radii!"- he did not think that two charters ' 350"le be grapted for the same line. This I House had this night declared that what was E considered T an exclusive privilege ahouH be l ' given to. another company, and now the Hon i, g Provincial Treasurer, after doing so, agreed I T v i that the extension sht-uldnntbegrantoclto th: I cld crmpany, became it would interfere with the new one. The question than, a: regard- . ed tho double line was, whether this House had a rightito say we will grant a charter to ict i352; bed a right to any we will grant a charter to this Great Western Company, from Glance: outward, over the lino of an existing chem r ;butwe will not allow another comp my to extend eastward, because it will interiors with the rights of the new company. The H M136 1 would. be, at least, consistent, and grant the l, same privileges to. one as had been oxtenied l 10 the other. 1 Hon. Mr. CAMERON believed the hon. member for Grenville Incl been napping re. cently. The very argument: which he had been making use of in favour of this Brll before the Home, only proved that the Great Western Railway Bill should alone be passed. The Committee had declded, from the evi- dome laid before them, walnut the Bill now before the house. * Mr MCCALL said the Committee wo 11d , remember tdat the Railway Committeere j ect- ed the preamble of the Bill, and sent it up to the House without any evidence for their rejecting it. The Home accepted the prc- ', amble and referred the Bill back to the ' Committee. Now, there had been great op- position shown to the Bill by the Greet Western Railway and the Grand Trunk I Railway. it was evident these two ooar l paniee had united to oppose it. The result ': would be that the people of the South-West- ; ern Peninsula would not get a line at all. it war against the intereete of these two great I Corporations. to construct a competing line, j and their only object in opposing Mr. hom- i l eon'e line was for fear of its injuring them- l: selves. g: '. Mr. MCKELLAR referred to the manner , l in which the Bill had been treated. by the l _ Railway Committee. It was the intention ', . _ of that Committee to bark the Bill. ', _'. l Mr. FERGUSON rose to a point of order. , He objected to the last remark ot the hon. I 's member for Bothwell. .1 , Mr. MCKELLAR believed he was perfect- ") ly in order. Now, in the Railway Committee, :2; the Bill had been thrown back a 'it,- week by unfair means. In order to . ' obtain a report from them, ht, hid 18 Runway UUuAua-v-vv, . moat tte and. . lulh'T' At,') s',' Th. amendment Will ttares he null M j tom ' them, ha had } Mr. FERGUSON ind' r omtld ' objectionable ounces 'i, 'ht/u',',';,,.,, "i,r,oayrap,ee'1',!', w', / 41, with the distinct} iiifii'ii1'i?i!lNPll, wpuld be teutmsd.lry the'glgza t " Bill should be cousxdered in 00m "I m considered now was the right timmxtho.' Ho them. a to divad Mr. OLIVER said asked for his charter let, Mr. lum, stated to the 'Committee that by "ttt Filo he mence operations within six Jll',ttl com. on: runnigg on the road within: . and hm Now, llib. 1hormron mast h'a"i11,',ee,tttt tune t ." the gauge would interf Mt t) tInt '2trg:il"t'd'f, that was his ".3? 'ttlt, 0 ant enarro . 'a' o " to mecca. w 8&qu if it Wtt new"; Mr. CLARKE said this House was 0111ng on to exercise certain power without mi evidence before them on which to acty The question seemed to be the tapdsiis' of the parties to undertake the work. vaye desired some information on this subject on which to give his vote. He found that i the majority of the representatives of the I country through which this route lay were in l favour of the scheme. Petitions had been t , presented asking for it, and numbers in op' I i position to the rival tttharms-aunts against i the scheme before the House. it was true t there were some hon. members opposed to l this measure, bat it was from a liking for the i, Great Western Railway Compmy, and not a from any dislike to the other scheme, or any . proof, of the incapacity of Mr, Thomson to l, construct the road, All the evidence before the House was in favour of the cspaeity q ot Mr. Thomson to undertake the work. Mr. LAUDER aid it was not the fault of the Committee that evidence had not been taken. In jurtice to all parties interested, it should be stated that this chess was withdrawn by the promoters oi the Bill in Committee. Why did they not allow it to be dhcuescd there-the proper place tor the dimension? Mr. HAYS wished to know it the thar mittee had not rejected the prumble, and the House had non considered it as proven, and lent it back to the Committee. Mr. LAUDER said the Bill had ham sent back for the evidence. H ti uuu' uuv hAN'_"-'. Mr. COW, " a. member of the Committee. i. had come to hie decision oi voting against the Bill, because he had strong doubts from the evidence as to Mr. Thomson's ability to build the road, Nevertheless, he behaved in extending fair play to nil. Mr. Thomson but met with much opposition from the outset, and had been saddled with th gauge which had seriously interfered with his enterprise. Mr. FERGUSON objected to the action of the House in the first place in reversing the I decision of the Committee. It was unfortu- nate that they had not taken the evidence, for, if the same evidence which had been brought before them had been submitted to ' the House they would hove come to the same decision as the Committee. But ihe House, in a light handed manner, hid taken upon itself to reverse the decision oi the Committee. without having heerd a particle "" - L-. mnmhm' for Leeds Mr. COW, " a. member had come to his decision the Bill, because he had a the evidence as to Mr. l build the road. Neverth: extending fair play to ail. - ' A u -'. LIA the House they wuuiu u-.- "7. same decision asthe Committee. But the House, in a light banded manner, had taken upon itself to reverse the decision oi the ' Committee, without having heard a particle l of the evidence. The hon. member for Leeds 1 on these facts, took the ground 1' that the charter should now be grantei. , The question of Mr. 1hoaurori's ability hi construct the road had been fully discussed by the Committee. The most complete evi- dence on this point had been taken, and Mr. Whitbeck, a moat intelligent american, had declared that the American Company with which Mr. Thomson had been dealing, weuid give him $200,000 after having constructed their own line, on certain conditions. N ow, l thilwaa a very indefinite promise. The de l elated object of the American Company was I to obtain the entire control of Mr. Thomson's i, charter at once and forever. Hon. Mr. LICBIIURRIC'LI'I never heard l ' of such a condition. i Mr. FERGUSON said he had heard this} l condition stated by Mr. Whitbeck in giving i hi! evidence. It was true that Mr. Thomson I had afterwards endeavoured to deny i. the facts. The effect was to hand l, over the right of running a line a i throth our country. To give Americans a l right over our own people. And this advan- tage was to be conferred on people who would not enter into reciprocity M tedt with us. Now, he did not believe in granting each convenience! and privileges; it was pre- f judicial to the people in whose interests thin _ . ., 1.4.1.... "A obieOtOd to i road, and 1 , Bill. ii Hero Mr. members :1 "Question. 'ttttte.', rubbing their 4"" '"' - ' itueWutny' l Mr. FERGUSON moved tuttlts coaueit- ', too do now rise and "port. Lost. I Mr. BLAKE "grated that tho wad. PP."',' III! tp'" ... - FV - it into the Bill again: Such s COIHIv TT without precedent in Parliumenmy practice. l The hon. member had asserted was he did thisboosuse he knew the Committee would I not do justice in the premises. Such nu u- trertion wu o slur on 37 members of the a..." n was imputing to them not: _ " . -,s,,mrtqrtt1 Home. "fi :7" {mining so we... "T" 'iiiiriiVGGtiretr.8 ',',tlUlk,"r'ii'iii,eittt l no member of this Home oould be iiiirue.4 l He did not will! to deprive the people of this mad, and for this meson he opposed this g Bill. I Bere Mr. Ferguson was interrupted by thts .. P, 'nh ad ceiling Mr. BLAK meat I). read, iyge 'iGiiT.U, that Mr. rd: endouvoured