The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 8 Dec 1870, p. 2

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P of the contractors, and of lgfl rts and estimates made for the Pu 'omh De-- partment in respect thereof. * Aho---AczonMdmflor ro&.mn Jul:f :he lnx:ull)nber of persons in jails of this Prov. ince, specifying the crimes of which they were couvicted, and at what gerlod of their age, the length of time for which they were to be so contined, with cost of maintenance. Also, whether they can read and write. Same returm to include all convictions from the lst Jauzary, 1868, to the 3lst Decem-- ber, 1868. Also, the extent of accommoda-- on aftorded by such jails, Also--Address for copies of all correspon: dence, reports, and Orgeu in Council, aad other papers, not already brought down, touching the arbitration gotween the Prov-- inces, with a statement of the expenses there-- of already paid, and an estimate of those re-- maining unpaid, if any. Alsc--Address for a statement of the moneys expended-- 1. _ In draiving the land first purchased for the London Lunatic Asyluwm. 2, In fercing the same. 3, In draining the land secondly purchassd, for the scame Asylum, 4, In fenciag the same. 5. In other improvements on the same; and for an estimate of the amount, if avy, that will be requiredl to complete each of Also--Address for statement of the various expenditures made and contracted for in connection with the iollowing' public works, to--wit: The improvement of navigation of Sougfig river, the cut between lakes Joseph and Rousseau, and the new road between Washago and Gravenhurst, with the names Alo--Address for coples of all correspon-- dence arnd memorials as to the filling of the vacancy in the shrievalty of Prince Edward, to which Mr. Greely, then member of that county, was appointed. that wiil be regmred to complete each of these works, and of the total cost of the in-- atitution, ard for copies of any advertise-- ments, tenders, or contracts, in relation to the above works. Alsoc--Address for copies of the warrants, depositions, and other judicial proceedings taken on the arrest of A. Scott and Pers Richot, on a charge of murdering Scott at Fort Garry, and of the judgment given on the application of these persons for a writ of Habeas Corpus, Mr. Boyd--Friday--Address to His Excel-- lency the Lieutenant--Governor for copies of all correspendence between the Governments of Canada and Ontario (not already brought down,)!touching any Act of the Lfiillatme of Ontario, and specially touching the disal-- lowance of the Act granting the supplies for 1869, Also--Address for copies ef all correspon-- dence between the CGiovernment and the Judges of the Court of Chancery, and of any repre-- sentations from the practitioners of that Court, with reference to the administration of any of the subordinate offices therein, and of any Orders in Council on this subject, and of any letters of resignation of any of the oflicers, and ef the patents or other war-- rants of appointment of any persons appoint-- ed since last session. Also--Address that the Houss will on w«------ next, resolve itself into a Committee of the Whole House to consider of the fol-- lowing resolutions:-- most good faith, 8. '%'hat it would not be in good faith for any Government to alter the arrangements under which the Land Improvement Fand was constituted, and to receive the purchase moneys of the lands, without providing for the due applicat:oxtnl,l in accordance with such arrangements, of the proper proportions of the proceeds of all lSu mmfe during the contiruance of the Fund. Also--Bill intituled, "An Act to furthor secure the independence of the Legislative Assembly, b{ rendering ineligible therefor all persons holding emgl:'yments of profit at the nomination of the Crown." 1. Th«t this House concurs in the views expressed on the report of the Select Com-- mittee on the Land Improvement Fand, made to this House at its last session, ployment; showing the nature of the appoint-- ment, its date, snfi the emolument, if any, derivable from any source in respect thereof. A'so--Address for a statement of the names of all persons who have, since the beginning of last session, received appointments or pro-- motions in the public service; with the dates of the appointments, and the names and emoluments of the offices, showing the in-- crease, if any, in the public charge on this 2. That the dealings of Governments with settlers should be cfimtorized by the ut-- most good faith, Also--Address for return of the number of B:lou who, since the lst day of Novem-- , 1869, have settled on free grant lands, with the number of acres located, and the names of the townships in which such per-- sons have settled. Also--Address for copies of all ghns, esti-- mates, advertisements, tenders and contracts for the land and work, and any reports ot the architects or %lsfndartmenhl officers in con-- nection with the Asylum, and a state-- ment of the various expenditures made or contracted for, respecting the same, Also--Addr«:ss for copies of all advertise-- ments, tende: . ~:! contracts for work, to be carried out vi ~ r the Drainage Act of 1869, and any rep '~ --f the engineers or arbitra-- tors in ccoricciion with #uch work, with a atatemeni o' <i~ various erxpenditures made and coniras: « for in resdpect of the same ; and for copi--: o( any Orders in Council ap-- pointing, or i: <tru:tions issued to, the arbi-- trators, and ©© all correspondence between the Govern»:~t and the municipal authori-- tles on the s' jict of drainage in the muni-- c'palities, Mr, Lount--Address for copies of all cor: respondernce, reports and papers connected with the Lunatic Asylum at Orillia, and the removal of tho inmates thereof to London. Attorne--General Macdonald--Bill respect-- ing the Law Society of Upper Canada. Mr. Blake--Address for statement of the average number of Iunatics and idiots for the years 1866, 1867, and 1868 in each of the tollow ing asylums :--1. Toronto ; 25 Branch in the east ; 3. Orillia; 4 Malden,. And of tke number now in:--1. The Toronto asy-- lum:; 2. The London asylum; and of the number which can tbe accommodated in each of these establishments. Attorney--Goneral Macdonald--Bill re-- #pecting the trial of controverted elections, On motion of Mr. SCOTT (Ottawa), sec-- onded by Mr H. LYON, leave of absence was granted to Mr. Clarke (South Grenville), for a fortnight, on account of ill--health. On the motion of Atty.--General MAC-- DONALID, a Select Committee of ten mem-- bers was appointed to prepare the lists of Standing Committces. On the Order of the Day, Mr. CARNEGIE rose to move the reply to the address from the Throne. After al-- luding to the hesitation with which he en-- tered upon the task, he went on to say he was sure this House and the people of On-- tario would receive with satisfaction the an:« nouncement that the Arbisrators appointed under the British North America Act of 1867 had made tbeir final award; for we were now in a position to realize our tinancial situation i» spite of any injustice that might have been done to us. He believed, and Aixis constituents believed, in spite of the great demonstration of last night, that our present satisfactory financial position was in a great measure attrinutable to the gentlemen now on the Treasury benches. (Hear, hear, from the Government benches ) He gave his sup-- port to the immigration policy of the wovern-- ment, and also to their policy respecting the reservation of pine trees. In the Bobeay: geon region at the present day there was ample evidence of the results of allowing tha pine trees to be cut down; for there were in that section at the presout time neither set-- tlers nor pine trees _ There was a great deal of land in the back country coversd with bardwood, and on these lands we should in-- duce people to settle. _ He heartily endorsed the policy of making railways through those districts which did not now possess them He also supported the policy of improved public instruction, the policy proposetF to be adopted with respect to controverted elec-- tions, and the central prison system. He concluded by alluding to the prosperity Ontariq enjoyed, and hoped that our connec tion would lonircontinue with the sea--girt isle; for no matter how we might differ in other things, this was the heart's desire of M every true'Uanadian. (Hear, hear, from the Opposition benches.) . Mr. MURRAY seconded. This was tha first time he had addressed the House, and after the speech of the hon. mover to the ad dress, but little remained for him to say upon the matter? He was glad to see that it was the intention of the Governmant to de-- vote the surplus to the purposes stated in the address _They were the things neces-- sa.r(f to promote the prosreu of the Province, and especially of those distant portions of it such as that he represented. It was lament. able that there were too many idiots in the country. ; Mr, BLAKE--(Hear, hear. ) Mr. MURRAY thought the provision of institutions for these unfortunates would be: beneficial. He hoped to see the last para-- graph of the address carried out, and that they--would all waive their personal and poli-- tical sympathies, and work for the ood of their country. (Hear.) He came Eere prepared to Xwo the Government a fair trial, He had doue so, ard in his opin-- ion they were entitled to the confidence of the people of the country. He believed that the people were loyal, and that there was no doubt the country woald continue to be prosperous and its people happy. The SPEAKER then put the address. The first paragraph having been adopted without discussion,, Mr. EDWARD BLAKE rose to es,veskon the second. After referring to the eloquent terms in which the address had been pro-- posed, be said thatthe member for Renfrew (Murray) had stated that he came there de-- termined to give the Government a fair trial, and would continue to do s0, having no rea-- zon to be dissatisfied with them. Such was nsually the conclusion of men who came to this House to give the Government a fair trial, (Laughter.) Healsonoticedthe vehem-- encewith whichthe hon member for Peterboro (Carnegie) had avowed his fealty to the Goverrment; but if his memory served him, it was not later than the close of last session that the hon. member had risen in his seat ard coniemned some of the actions of the Government. He knew his hon. friend's lo-- cality, and he knew that an election was ap-- proaching, and more than all he knew that there was a railway policy foreshadowed in the address, (Hear.) He also knew that Renfrew was very much isolated, and that the hon. member was doubtless desirous of removing that isolation, and consequently would loock with favour on that part of the address. His countyv (South Bruce) was also equally isolated, but he preferred to wait and see the policy of the Government brought down betore he gave it his approval, (Hear.) The first substantial ground taken in the reply was that havinfi reference to the arbi-- tration. They had heard a good deal, not here but elsewhere, about the praise that was due to the Government for the part they had taken in the matter; but he had not yet heard it asserted that the Province had obtained more than justice, though he had heard that it had received less. (Hear.) If this was so, he hoped that they would have honesty enougbh, and Eenero:ity enough, as they were strong and able enaugh, to re-- g:ir any wr&zitht_t thei' might find had en commi (Hear.) For his part he be-- lieved that the Province had not received more than justice--he believed that there were some parts in which they had not received justice, not in the zense of unjust judgment, but in the sense that would impute judg-- ment unfavourable on some points on which judgment might have been favourable. He did not impute, however, to the Administra-- tion in the slightest degree any result of that description--he felt that all the Admin-- istration could, under the circumstances, be called upon to do with reference to this arbi-- tration was to have seen that the cause of the Province was properly laid before the arbitrators, and that having seen that, their du? was dmh.:s.d and the result of the arbitration placed beyond their control. Still they knew that this arbitration busi-- nees was not settled,in that the decision was not mcquiesced in by the other province. They knew that very strong attacks are be-- ing made against the validity of the arbitra-- tion, and this upon two grounds. The first was that the cause was heard in a very largs part of it, the evidence taken to a very large extent, and the award made, in the absence of the arbitrator and counsel of the Province of Quebec. That might well have taken place without this administration 'being re-- aponsible for it in the slightest degree; but whatever be the validity of the objection to beh.taken to :bb; iu?rdl onll :;h" uccaro-- whatever migh ts legal validity--and on this point he oftered no Opinion--&em could be no.doubt that from the moral force of t'o award there was a detraction

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