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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 12 Dec 1870, p. 3

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irk- his not what In and! Mom. 10! laughter.) . 2 it raw being six o'clock the House rose for rec" ; Afternesss, / , Mr. CALVIN resumed his remarks.' He thought that no measures should beproposed >unless the ppttple sud they wanted. them. He did not think that sgncultwe should be introduced into the onnmon schools; for A bot who was s farmer's son would learn far More from his {other than he would in a. .ahooisrum the luster knew nothing " all About sgrlctdture. He wss glad that the Treasurer said that the finances were in a prosperous condition; but msnyinthe House "new " lunch about the finances as the Tmrel' did. daughter.) As longs, we had enough of trees, so long the Yankees muldbe after them, end the ressury would be hill, sud we would not want money for the next twenty yesrs. It the license sys- tem went on, our woods would not have enough pine, wood twenty yesrs from now to build a beta; and this being the case, lb; thought the Government should sell the 1anils--open s tr'eet, here and there. and see how it would wor He was not In fa. .vour of the central pris m system; the ques- tion was not the building of them. but the mintensnoe of them sfterwsrds. He wss a supporter of the Government, but would op- ethem if they brought up the schemes if: agrioultural education and the prison system. Mr. LYON thought It anything were omit. ted in the address, it should be noticed. He wss very much pleased to hear the re. muks of the hon. member for South Bruce on the destruction caused by fire in the Ottawa district. Althong he (Mr. Lyon) wss n member of the Government) he felt it his duty to speak out on this matter. He regretted that the At. tornerGemrral wee not in his pines, in order that he pight hear something concerning the manner: in which he had noted with respect $100,000 to those who could find good spou- tigy, and Also for 11oay of $50,000 to those narrated some of the inddentl which tran. ' spired during the tire, the speaker prcveeded to tstate that, in connection with the member for Russel. he thought it his duty to visit Toronto after the events he described The Warden of, the County and tkeg Lyon) called upon the Attorney-Gen , ind re' gretted that the newer of that ntleman was that nothing could he done. S') knew that Nova Scotin had, received $5,000, and hoped the Ottawa tndrererg would receive some "aktante. He asked for n loan of l Stfyft ftdtfh t- OLA... "A." nanlJ a..a ..--.'l ........ who were owing the Government for their lands l and he duo stated his belief that this House would'back up any grant that might be given. The Attorney-Gene ral Mid it Would be uneorutitutloral to give the relief Mrmllr, he offered to Idtane" $00,000 for ten ak at 6 per cent if the County Council would guarantee it. He (Mr. Lyon) replied that the Council would guarantee it; but laid at the same time that the bank: had loaned money " 4 per cent. The Attorney- General anewered that the money would be looked up for ten yeara, and that there oeuld heno other term than thoee he had pro' posed. The tenue were referred to the people of the burned district. but the refused then ; and said they email not accept the loan even at four per cent if that was the my thar, were to be treated by the Province. 0 felt very deeply the sympathy 'which had been BO generoualy "gene by the leader of the 1hrpoeitioit. ( ear, hear.) He mightsay that the leader of the Opposition " well " the Atttmttoryqt1 himself had forwarded reel;I a swung: ti', Ballet Committee. He m' t no _ t eey tv'hcre- eeived 'l,',',,',', the 1"d';'ll.'lXe'di' was " What have m' done that the Almighty ha- afRiotod you in that way t" daughter.) The reply "the (Lyon) made --." I an carry to math only reason Ikntrw is that I have aligned our Govenment for three yearn." ( 'pr)'ll4lflilioJl..", her: was ap- lieation made to the meal Government of t'12'J,',.'C'l'l the newer wee that although there had been aftre in tht8tg-yditrtriiit, and $15,000 had been contributed, still the Govemmeat would not let the'derutation go away empty; and they oattritiaf.ed $3.000. (Apphuaa) to the fir In tht fltutraAlutriet. - _ IrtyFing, Hm. Mr.tPaCBARmt--.Wae not that for the new» Canada lid. , Mr. L'YOtr replied thet it Wu for 311 the "when. 'He ee, my Indeed, that them was but one h red Milieu burned out on £110:qu Cartadnitdn; while then were tim hundred "milieu in hie (Mr. I you?) district and tiny or alum in to county of Russell. The god-um boaated V" - vavv'n -- -.--" - /iriiririi m. totally inadequate to the de. mand; the speaker want on to ootntnenb on the nation of the oBrof Toronto. The Eta. lie! Committeq hrdltrsen srrornirt4,8tN,h10, self or gin friendg; that whit icauaa Mr. COCKBURN could not agree that the Free Grant Act we: perfection. The provi- sion that the settlere should Jay the entrant price on their timber when they used "for building purposes, while theyduid liberty to burn it, was at least invididue. He Wu in favour of railway grants, and havln PS: Eortcd the hen. member for South 31mins ill last session, he wee glad to see that it was the intention of the Government to in- troduce a Bill for the. mid of Wtrov'erted Elections. He had been referred to b Mr. Blake " the demonstration at the 'ld/i; Hall, and he wished to defend himself. m denied that he had ever naked or received a fayeur iron} the Goqernment either fer him. Mr. TETT eeidhe would have bean' better 1 gee-ed with the speech It e reference had , made in it to the Ottawa devastation. l m thought it would have been ttteditable to! the Government to hare mggeeted to Hi: l Excellency to mention the sympethy which i he must have felt for the untirrtiink antler- ere. The devaatation extended over a dia. trict of name te'teitt and the enlisting: ',, of the people district were terrible, l and were beyond the Er,'d of my luguage I he could command. c was happy tc see a disposition in hon. members on both aides to ( extend eympethy to the sufferers, andlmped I to see at least a sum of C50,C00 plasc l in i the eatimates for their aid. I Dr. BOULTER was p,ratitied at the speech but would not commit himself to any point until he saw the hills. It was satisfactory that.they were new in a position to know what their actual state was. He believed that the establishment of the Deaf and Dumb Asylum was but an act of Justice to that part of Province, and woul suppcrt any amendment of the School Law which would benefit the country. Under this head he advocated the teaching of the rudiments of agriculture, tax With, regard to the Can. troverted Elections Bill, he would accept a bill from the Ministry rather than from' the Opposition. (Hear, hear.) The hon. mem- her, after reading some extracts from Tue (31mm of 1863, acid he hoped that some- thin would he done in the estimates for the gltawa tmfforera. Of course it was not neceeaary to put everything in the address. that the Government intended to do. l by Toronto, but 1he supposed the city thought as the Premier did, that the grant would be uneemittittttional. He regrete1 that . oven no pinto contributions were storied here, for -several western cities had stated they would follow the lead of Toronto, but'Toronto gamma Sign. He thought the Province of Oneritrcould well afford to give $50.". The Emma-or had stated there were 33,1003") laid up. He (Mr. Lyon) would ask were tthet reople to be turned out to swerve rather; than that a constitutional p: inciple should be broken? Mr. BLAKE-wear, hear. MI. LYON said that if the Government, when they cmerdown with the estimates, should make no provision for the '3ttlwa an (fevers, audit the Opposition did noi, brine in A vote of concurs: he would do so. The Government would be turned eaten that vote; and they would be defeated if they went to the country on it. Bat if they were defeated they could rot accuse him, tor he had generously su ported, them, and would do so still ' but .'Ee could not face his constituents on this quustion. He was sorry the Attorneriusral--who, as he "uu1er. stood, was iiok---wat, not new in hieplsce to explain his action In this matter. Jlear, hear.) " Or. BAXTER said since he hsrb:uan in the House he had given an independent sup: ort to therMiniatr ll; If such a. disaster as that referred to by) r. Lyon had occurred in the district he repmsented, he ghoul J. have gone to the Premier is A matter of right; out if the Ministry opened their coffers and rendered assistance to the sufferers, they must do so on the principle of justice. Do. tiniug his position. he had voted on princi. plea which he felt sure the country would, sustain. Immigration demanded liberal, dealing at the hands of the Government, and tho exertions put forth in bring" the agri- cultural class of immigrants to this country ahould be extended. He thoughtthe coun- try reluired come amendments to the Grem- mar School system, and he hoped tint the bill might escape the fearful treatment it neceiv Int your. "Vwr . "In" . at" v'o'te with in... Oppouitlon; and ttttt the letter referred to m the" 5966911 T.e written in explanation of A drnMential )emrk heThed inade to some hon. members in the House, and it then only referred to the altimetee. lmmedintely otter the conclusion of the estimates, he had voted against the Government on the Dower Bill introduced by the member for South Bruce. m might have committed errors ofjudg. ment and not of heart. Since the last ses- sion, he had not seen Mr. Blake, and had (nly called at the iiidrnerGentmr1'ts ofries twine. Mr. BLAKE said he had never stated, publicly or privately, that he had any reason to believe that, he (Mr. Cockburn) was seek- ing to obtain any personal ad rantage; bat he did charge him with having laid down afalse ' - " ' I. - "Hahn. t., 'hs, latter in) m might hive com: meat and mt of heart, sion, he had not " oly called at the At twice. Mr. BLAKE "r' publicly or privately, A . .. AL-L 1... ' Mr. GEAR AME Hlink) ttaid Ur1t ltr.' Tm I (any approved of the speech. He] counder- g," it unfeira hottrut?,!t. "in some ot the au, seam portions 0. m; can? atstmrtr should have to pay In full for tied! lands, while settlers. in the new territories were getting their lands free. m thought the re. make of the hon. membet in South Brace with reference to the arbitration were 'othb. what unfortenate, and,.thU tU hon. Trea. PW"", entitled to Pat for his exertions. 'ct hiit opinioa a portion of the surplus could De v.%ststageoUi employed in aiding rail. :ways, and in incrvMod grants towerdl aid, ing immigration, wen.) principlg (f pub] which he referred. Mr. REED 311ng thttnite of the Gammant any h, and Our kimono! opening Iptha Mount; hymen: of nilmyl. Mr. f*Arqtplengarr, , dhl not think it was right that the Governmut thould and .u my fi'a'ltu'tia?g12e,1,itd io grunting " On a . ies c on ma ash-ooh, and to the Weaeths of anaemia. fMthsiii2iii,i,i' Gov. Ornment t its M Mk! be dis. tributed fresh item-haul do"; and that the Journal 4f!ttrAordhGiiGiii' tte du. ttPtieet1. {in If. dit.iimrarr "ot a lure "gamu- 1elig"tim 99119:. ing immigration, tmar.)" Irr. CARLING (Huron) was in favour of t.ailwts "tents; and thought that some por iiilivEMii be given to the districts inhabi- ted by those pioneers who had borne the bar. den of the dsy. He we: quite willing to leave the matter in the hands of the Govern. ment. He was an earnest advocate for the new Election Lew. He had been himself . vie. tim of the old law, having been kept out of his seat two years by its diletory action, and consequently would support the Govern. ment in the introducin a new Ball for deal- ing with contravened Sections. He thought 3i. constituency would approve of his con act. Mr. CURRIE entered into some expl LBS- tions with regard to the completion ot con- federation, contending that the Attorney- General was justified in forming his Cabinet in the msnner he had. He due a pleaded the action of the Commissioners cg Puhiic Works and Crown lands, in penemlly visiting various puts of the country. After referring to the free grant districts, he con- sidered it unfortunate that the hon. mama here for Lambton and South Bruce had stated their conviction that it was adviuble even to strein 3 point to keep up potty. He wee not altogether in favour of the grant:, to railways: be then ht that s port of theme, elyy conld be "51 onnlied to anti-n "A, Mr. CROSBY regretted thst there was no reference in the address to s timber policy It was one of the 11rya,rtte, questioas they had to deal with.' e licence being granted for one year only, there we not that attention paid to the preservntion of timber that was desirable. He had seen more dt. met adherence to Katy on the other side of the House, _althoug every0onaervative mem- I her, on rising, expressed his anxiety to get i rid of party. He had promised to give the I Government A fair trial; but in the tirat ses sion they brought down a free grant licy, l which showed at once so close 3 _l,'ofirl' on the part ot the Government that he was compelled to sugport the more liberal pro. positions of the pposition. (Hem) Mr. MURRAY oomsideref that the os tawa district had been somewhat neglecte l, and he ho d it would receive mention. He trustegethet the municipel loan funds would be distributed at an only period, since many municipalities were wantin the al- eistance of the fund. He thought tint those members who opposed the Government stool in their own light. (Laughter ) Mr. MAICHETT regretted the personal character of the debts. He had always supported the Government. cf paylg iiGrirty in the letter to (York) tsaid th _ l,,,' tr ,1ppe,t. te 93:13.1 uh at he gen and thit

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