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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 12 Dec 1870, p. 8

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5'r GPA}! Cllr, {XI-ill) sai'. that he gear era a roved a the a ooh. Heleonaider- ed gymggr, however, $t in some of the older settled portions of the country settlers aheuld have' to pay in full for their lands, while settlers. in the new territories were getting their lands free. Be thought the re. marks of the hon. member fer South Bruce with reference to the arbitration were some- what unfortunate, and that the hon. Tres. surer was entitled to credit for his exertions. In his opinion, a portion of the surplus could be advantageously employed in aidin rail. way a, and in increased grants tt,"lla, tsid, ing' immigration. (Hem) yr. CARLING (Huron) was in favour of railway grants; and thought that some por tio'nkehculd be given to the (which ha. "Ct " -- " -' - . a. y- p.19" uo Una Which inhabi- ted by those pioneer, who had borne the bar. den of the day. He was quite willing to leave the matter in the hand; of the Govern- ment. He wee an earnest advocate for the new Election law. m had been himself e vie. tim of the old law, having been kept out of his seat two years by iti dihtory Ttion, and 1f.P't,qmsntly would support the Govern- ;nent P. the introduo' s new Bill for deal. P.g with wi,iiiiiiiv)'s"rt'l')ll',tt'g,. m thought has mutating would approve of his con- h,tti,r", - " . agamst the Government on the Dower Bill introduced by the member for South Bruca. m might have committed errors of judg- ment and not of heart. Since the last ses- sion, he had not seen Mr. Blake, and had oly called at the AttorsterGeruGyi Ollie: tmve. M r. BLAKE said he had never stated, publicly or privaUls, that, he had any reason to believe that he (Mr. Coclxbum) was seek- ing to obtain any personal ad outage; bat he dvi. charge him with having laid down afalso priracipl/i (f public mummy in the letter to which he n fen " Mr. COCKBURN could not agree that the Free Grant Act was perfection. The provi. sion that the settlers should pay the current price on their timber when they used it for _building purposes, while they hid liberty to burn it, was at least invidious. He was in favour of railway grants, and having sup- ported the hon. member for South Bruce's Bill last session, he was glad to see that it was the intention of the Government to in- troduce a Bill for the trial of Controverte'l Elections. He had been ieferred to by Mr. tJays at, Ju AtoPsttation, at - the Music Hall, and he wished to defend himself. m denied that he had ever asked or received a favour from the Government either for him. self or his friends ; that when he was eleeted he was not pledged to support the Ministry nor to vote with the Opposition; and that the letter referred to in the speech was written in explanation of a confidential )emark he had made to some hon. members in the House, and it then only referred to the estimates. Immediately after the conclusion of the estimates, he had voted against the Government on the Dower Bill introduced by the member for South Bruce. He might have committed errors of judg- ment and not of heart. Since the last 'taa. Mr. TETT said he would have been better leased with the speech if a reference had Q',',',' made in it to the Ottawa devastation. m thought it would have been creditable to the Government to have suggested to His Excellency to mention the sympathy which he must have felt for the unfortunate suffer- ers. T he devastation extended over a dis. trict of some eighty miles, and the sufferings of the people in his district we re terrible, and were 1kssom1 the power of any language he could command. He was happy to see a disposition in hon. members on both sides to extend sympathy to the sufferers, and hoped to see at least a sum of $50,000 placed in the estimates for their aid, Dr. BOULTER Was gratified at; the speech but would not commit himself to any point until he saw the bills. It was satisfactory that they were now in a position to know what their actual state was. He believed that the establishment of the Deaf and Dumb Asylum was but " act of justice to that part of Province, and would support any amendment of the School Law which would benefit the country. Under this head he advocated the teaching of the rudiments of agriculture, (to. With regard to the Com troverted Elections Bill, he would accept a bill from the Ministry rather than from" the Opposition. (Hear, hear.) The hon. mem. ber, after reading some extracts from THE GLOBE of 1853, said he hoped that some- thin Would he done in the estimates for the UT,' sufferers. Of course it was not necessary to put everything in the address that the Government intended to do. Dr. BAXTER said since he had been in the. House he had given an iudtspriuctosrr, sum art to tly, Ministry. If such a disaster es Ihat referred to by Mr. Lyon had occurred in the district he represented, he should have gone to the Premier as a matter of right; tut if the Ministry opened their coffers and rendered assistance to the sufferers, they must do so' on the principle of justice. PY fning his position, he had voted on prmcr- ples which he felt sure the country would sustain. Immigration demanded liberal dealing at the hands of the Government; and the exertions put forth in bringing the agri- cultural class of immigrants to this country should beextended. He thought the coun- try required some amendments to the Gram- mar School system, and he hoped that the bill might escape the fearful treatment it ieceive last year. I $50,000. The Tum: had mud there. ", Mr MU ' . 'r""""?' "iiiiriaiiriC"i" . . . r, I _" u u p . R . " , , . . That ustlce re nits: that were h3,100,000 laid up. He (Mr Lyon) tows districtlhédY c,'g,"e,g:',ute, 22'l p' every ""1993 Shauld Jl12lt,',d, 'd due pro; twoutld ttk Were the trote',, to betumed out and he ho ed it would receive 'l'ifl',f'li'l'il.' portip , to his means to tha 'TWH" of that as aria rather than t at a constitutional He trusted) that the munici al loan funds 1funjoipa1 Government of whieh he "Wives prlnmple Should be broken? would be distributed at an serfy period, since _ ' the beiidt. Mr. 13LAKrr--rsr, hear. may municipalities were wanting the as- 2. That the .4389"an Act should be Mr. LYON said that if the Government, Instance of the fund. He thought that those amended by "tilting o11t the exemptions from M hen they came down with the estimateS, rnembers who opposed the Government stood i an?" therein contained m favour of col" trhtylld make no Provision for the Ottawa m their own lighi. (Laughter) ' ', m c asses of subjects. .sclrerertr, and if the Opposition did not brim: Mr. MATCHETT regretted the personal 'yTrreP_1t!1ttr!rtie,Tamri------ m a vote of censure, he would do so. The character of the debate. He had always GO'. eminent would be turned out on that supported the Government. vote; and they would be defeated if they Mr. CROSBY regretted that there was no f vent to the country on it, But if 1:th I reference in the address to atimber policy. were defeated they could 1 (It accuse him, for _ It was one of the most important questions rt he had generousiy tsupported them, and they hadtodeal with. The licence being a would do so still ", but he couid not face his granted for one year only, there was not that ' constituents on this question. He was sorry attention paid to the preservation of timber i the Attorrcy.Getr::rid--viho, as he under. that Wag desirable. m had seen more di. i steed! was tsick-wp..; not now in his place to l rect adherence to rty on the other side of i explain his action In' this matter. (Hear, i I the 'iiiti';7lt'cfU1fe/lSt'etrid, mem- I hear.) I hear, Pn "3138. expressed his anxietv to get TPT. 'J', ":u Mr. tltmtegie.--Bu1 toamend the Law Re. form Act of 1861; also, a. Bill to amend and consolidate the Acts relating to Mutual In. surance Companies in the Province of on. tario. . Mr. Blau-That this House will on ~d_ next, resolve itself into a Committee of the Whole House to consider the following reso. 1qtiorvce-' Mr. Sin o1air.--Whether it; is the intention of the Government to place a sum in the esti- mates for the improvement of the commer- c'al harbours ot the Province, or of any of them. _ Mr. Grmstnu-p,m but..." u" r _---, " Mr. Boyd.--Addren, for copies of report 1 of the commissioners (if any) who may have visited, in the United States or elsewhere,» institutions having for their object agricultu- ral, mechanical, manunctu.rine, and mining education. , . Mr. I1otd-.Wheiher it be true that J. B. MoLellan, Esq., law partner of the Attorney- General, has been appointed to the office of f county attorney and Ulerk of the Peace for y the united counties of Stormont, Dundee and i Glengarry, in the room of James Bethune, l Esq., resigned. i The following notices of motion have been given:--. . Mr. Hays. ---miether surveys have been made, and if so what surveys, on Nys north shore of Lake Superior; also, the terms on which the lands, mineral or agricultural, are to be sold , When said lands will be o en for sale, and if any ma has been procureg of the region near Silver {gland or said nhnm Formal motiim, for presentation of the carried. After a few words from Mr. Boyd, clause was adopted. Hon. Mr. RICHARDS made some expla. nations with regard to the amendments of the Free Grant Bill, 'Irggesttsd by the hon member for Prescott (Mr. Boyd), which were adopted by the House. m -r__ --..y, nun; wanna UL " Question, question." He said he desired, " the mover of the address, to say a few words in reply to what had fallen froth the speakers on the Opposition side. He then proceeded to reply, at some length, to remarks personal to himself interspersed through several speeches in the course of the debate. - _ . -_ -_v..a_- - '""'"'""""9 could not do better than apportion some of it to the different 'yrriey1turuhooiaia, for the purpose of importmg improved stock. (Hem) Mr. CARNEGIE rose, amid cries of "Urination nun-HI... " It. -4: L- a . . Mr. MCCALL (Elgin) orgued thst the Op- position could lay no claim to the accumula- hon of the surplus. As there wss such a lax-gigsl surglus, he thought tht Government our young men made a. great mixture in leav- ing or the United States. In his own coun- ty he knew those who had to sendlmoney to the States to bring home their young men. There was every induoernent for our young men to remain in Canada, and they had every opportunity for self-advancement. (Hear. hour.) m ht? the Government would not exp'end all t e surplus on the new " tricts, ut distribute it in the eastern parts of the province " well. (Hear, hear.) hers for Lambton and South Bruce had stated their conviction that it was advisable even to strain a point to keep, up party. m was not altogether in favour' of the grants to railways; he then ht that a part of the snra plus could be well applied to granting ad- ditional subsidies to common and grammar schools, and to the agricultural societies of the count . m also suggested to the Gov. ernment 1that the statutes should be dia. tributed free to the municipal offietmv, and that the Journal of Education should be dis- continued. m was in favour ot a more vigorous immigration policy. ' ' Mr. REED supported the policy of the Government as a w ole, and "was in favour of opening up the back country by means of railways. . Mr. CRAIG (Glengarry) did not think it was right that the Government should expend all 0 the large surplus inthe new districts. The older so tions that had contributed their share to this surplus had a right to their share in its distri tion. He considered that the Government had acted . ht1rintrtipulair. ing that the timber 2t'll'f'e preserved in free grant lands. If the timber were to be given to the settlers, there would be a rush to these lands by people not intending to settle, and who, " soon as the timber was cat down, would leave. m thought _that Mr. CURRIE entered into some explan- tions with regard to the completion ot con- ftidtsration, contending that the Attorney- General was justified in forming his Cabinet in the manner he had. He also applnuded the action of the Commissioners of Pubiio Works and Crown Lands, in personally visiting various parts of the country. After referring to the free grant districts, he con. sidered it ynfqrtunatii that the hon. mem- that was desirable. rHe had seen more di. rect adherence to rty on the other side of the House, ;'l'lcfU1fvTr; Conservative mem- ber, on rising, expressed his anxiety to get; rid of party. m had promised to give the Government a fair trial; but in the first f"' sion they brought down a free grant Policy, which showed at once so close a tro my on the part of the Government that; he was compelled to support the more liberal pro. positions of the Opposition. (Hem) The House adjourned at 11.40 pun Mr. CROSBY regretted that there was no reference in the address to a timber policy. It was one of the most im ortant questions they had to deal with. Tie licence being granted for one year only, there was not that attentlon peid.to. the preservation of timber NOTICES OF MOTION L for the engrossment and the address" were then 'ose, amid cries of He said he desired, " F, tt say , few words at am ' the to re; 2. That the Assessment hot anould be amended by striking out the exemptions from taxation therein contained in favour of cor- tain classes of subjects.

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