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ED the Coatarnmant q;3 OO CCloment, and yet --_--. the Government did rot think it right to | introduce any messure which was unconsti-- °. _| tutional with a view of securing those con-- atituencies. They could not reduce the | price of the lands without violating the trust _ | which the Province had undertaken, sad the honourable gentleman must have known Wwhen he introduced his resolution that it could not be carried out, He submitted :htt no arraugement could be come to in the LV nramnass mrent {fund aske it co the : The Gov tarlo some of UnE School danas who deserved to be relieved. With regard to one argument--that there had been no application from the se-- tlers on the school lands thero was & rerson for it. Some years ago the Government pressed for payment on the Crown lands, but rot on the school lands, The C:overnment gave the settlers on the school lands distin>t-- ly to understand that they were not going to deal with these lands, because they were trust lands. As to the argument of their teing trust lands, he did not think it was ~alid. He was fully satisfied that the Trea: surer had ability enough to keep this trust itynd intact, aad give relief out of the con« sclidated fund. The hon. member for South (rey had complained of the amendment of the bon, member for South Bruce-- V'r. L&AUDER--I did not. * Mr. BLAk E--He objected to the me nher for South Bruce, and not to his reselution, iLouchter ) _ Mr, SINCLATR hoped that the House would see the wisdom of making some pro-- vision for the scttlers on our school lan«s, Hon. J. 8. MACDONALD said that the ken. member dor South Brues wanted the {lcuse, without any evidence of the neses-- sity of the act, to furnish relis! to the settlers on the school lards. > * Mr. BLAKE--What do you siy to the tatements of the members for North and *(uth Grey and North Bruce ? Hoa, J, 8. MACDONALD said that two. '1 1ds of the time of the House was occupicd ky Huron and North and South Bruce. The «cttlers of these counties had not been sub-- jected to pressure. } Yr. BLAKE--How do you make that out ? Hon. 4. 8. MACDONALD said that the JU, D. MALVIIVU ELN £L bisZ muu- vikd RAETECE t * PA hpliaadhsroo hasant: * * }:?:% apart for the instrustion of the youth t?. Paa crassos of landsg, -- In \i's constituency i Up per and Lower Canads, The Govern-- ail classes were represented, and he thoughs fi-'n'}) might, at some time or another, when| it would be unfair to give relief to one 'an'i rc';, caroful' of the finances, and more in--| rnct theother. He would ask the hon, Com-- clired to jobbery and corruption. --(Laugh--| missioner whether he had any right to re ::r;) | duce the price of clergy lands ? **~ BLAKE--Hear, hear. ' Mr. RICUARELS sitd there was not. Hopn IY, 8, MACDONALD--The Govem--| -- Mr, HAVS asked if there was any Sase in t n ht then think of recddling with the | which this romission had been made hmd.m%h Government had already beon| \ir, NICJi ANRD3 sald he remsmbered one asked b' the Government of the Dominion it in Caurleton ("ouz'-ty, it conld share the subsidy due to 03'"10 99) _ Mr. HAYS belicved that others could be the first of July aad on the first of JARUATY: | ;o_, q ; ihe (;ocernment looked. _ The chie' CoverEment, for the last three years, had not ! ssLid those settlers to pay--except by acci-- | ciont, (Laughter.) In the year 1850, one | ilion was set aside for a school fund ; the siitute providing that it should not be j tou< hed. ] \ir, BLAKE--Why did you interfere with ; these funds®* (Hear, hear.) | llom. J, 8. MACDONALD said that the top, member for South Sruce was the firss to attack the fund, Yir. BLAKE--Hear, hear. Hon. J. 8. MACDONALD said the fund was set apart for the instrustion of the youth of Upper and Lower Canada. The Govern-- m:nt might, at some time or another, when lets careful of the finances, and more in-- clBred to iobbery and corruption. --(Laugh-- The time might come when the Dominion| , -- , Government would not be able to pay On-I "1).' of tario its subsidy;. the time might come when| [' !© this Province might not be able to support| 10""\ ite schools from its casual income. Let the, :) o fund remain untoucked, and things n:ighci ened got along. SMe® Mr HMon, J. 8. MACDQNALD said he pro-- tested against this mode of dealing with the matter, He would say this, however, to the membe: for South Bruce: would itnot bs better, before his resolution wers adopted,t> kave a commission or committee of the House appointed to investigate the cases of s<ttlers on the schcol lands ? On the sub-- mitting of a rsport on this cuestion there would be something tangible to proceed up n. There was now no evidence before the House. Mr, ELAKE--Do you not know that the income has already beez takom cut oft.e consolidGated revenue ? Hon J. 8. MACDONALD said he admit. tedthat, Entsuppose thecapital wererodnced, it wou!d be reduced in proportion as the so :-- tlers were relieved. the cap North and South (irey, Do you look on them withsuspicion ? Hon, J. 8. MACDON ALD said he looked with suspicion on all the Opposition. (Laugh-- tr.) lHe hoped the House would not ac-- cept the resolution of the hon,. member for "outh Sruce. Hon, Mr, MoMURRICH said he was wil-- ling to give the Government more power than they asked for. Be wasnot afraid that thkey would make too great reductions, If these school lands were so valuable as the Government said they were, there would be ro reductions required; and he could not understand why the Governmert should re-- fuse the power to deal with them, and they counld easily let the matter reat if they found it unnecessary,. Tt looked invidious to leave cat one class and «4l--«»l with the others, Hs talieved that the legai aspect of the case had been already departed from, and that to a greater extent than that now sought to be conferred upon the Government. It was proved that reductions had already taken plaoss, and he could not see the illegality of waking further redacstions if required. Hor. Mr, CAMERON claimed that the object of the introduction of the amendmont was for the reason of placing the supporters of the Government whose constituencies were interested in Common School lands in a dificult position, having either to vote against the Government or against the s: p-- posed interests of their constituests. Sach conduct was not worthy of the leader of the Opposition, and was not statesmanlike, It bad been the practise of the Opposition to charge the Government with corruption; bat the hon. membersior North and South Grey, who were greatly interested in this question, were supporters of the Government, and yet the Government did not think it right to introduce any messure which . was unconsti-- tutional with a view of securing thoss con-- : .h}mcie.o ThQY could nat" raftana Cns NT F4 4 % > propogsed. Mr, PaArD BLAKE--Idon't propose to redus ital. (DEE s;i(_l _t.h! Government ha) There ars the members { sA memj°rs 10r o you look on l Mr. HAYS belicved that others could be found if the Government looked. -- The chis! trouble in his district was not so much to get relief from tho price of the land as to get possession of, it (Hesr.) The question should be looked at fairly, and the same benefit extended to all, Mr. C&ALVIN would oppose the amend ment propgsed, because he did not think that the House hzd any right to deal with Quebec's money. Mr, HAYS said ho usually supported the Government, but on the preseut occasion he skould have tosupport the ameadment sincs he believed that the relief sho"' * @na ao*anla4 A division was then taken, with the foll ing result : Y¥EAsSs.--Messrs Daxter, Blake, Boyt, Christie Clemens, Cook. Croshy, Evans, Fin'aysoa, Frase«, Gow. Hays, Lander, McKellar, McoKix, McLeod McMurrich, OHver, Pardes, Paxtorn, FPorry, Scot! CGrey), Sexton, Smith (Middlezex), Sprisger, Trow Wiliams (HU2azsiitorn )--27. NAYs.----Messts Anderson, Barber, Beatly, Loul: ter, Cameros, Carnegie, Cockbrrn, Colquhoun, €.rhy, Craig (Glengary), Craig (Russell), Calvin, Comiy rlard, Currie, Code, Eyre, Forguson, Forriet, Fitzsimmous, Galbraith. Graham (Hastings), Gra-- hame (York), HWeoper, Tount, Imtor, Lyon, Murcay, Macdonald, Matchett, Montelith, MceCalW(Necf Jk), McColl (Elzin), McSill, Read, Rictkards, Rykert, Fceott 1Ottawa), Secord, smith (Kent) sinith (Leoeds end CGrenville), strange, Swinerton, Tett, Waliis, Wigle, Williams (Purkham}, Wilson, Wood.--4s. Mr Muclair paired for with Mtr. Copne against. The House ther went into Committes, with Mr, Lyon in the chair. The lirst resolution was then read, an' Mir, RICHARDS moved the aidition of the words Cirarmmar Schoslsfto the resolntioa, placing the who'le questian in ths one reso-- lution. oply been Charged which i,n"fl(_'-edgtl: Mr, BLAKE referrefd 40 the differecce be-- tween the mode in which the principal and interest were to be troated. The hor, Com-- missioner for Crown Tands stated that the abatement on the principal was to be guiled by a principle, whereas that on the iutorest due was to be founrded on no principle, but to be subject to the will of the Government alone. This mode--oi treating the question was likely to cause discontent in both classes--those who »Jlesired tha reduction, ard those old settlers who desired to see the reduction as small as possible, since it would divert revenues from the Consolicated Re. vervre, and thus affect the taxation of the covuntry, He hoeped the hon. Commissioner of Crown Lands would see a way to dealing with the question of interest in the same memner in which the question of principal was treated. He thought some further ex-- planations were required in this matter, He would calt their @gtsention to the importane _of the interests involved, and that the amount of interest involved was squally as ; great to that of the principal. (HMear ) _ Hon. Mr., RICHARDS said that with re. | gqrdto the principal it might be dealt wi;h | without much difliculty. As to the interest, there would be taken into consideration th« d fference bet ween good and bad lands. Mr. BLAKE said that in case of a psor lot, if the log at the end of twerty yeas 1 was not worth more than the criginal dollar | per acre, without interest, it was quite clear that the land was not worth a doliar an asre when it was purchased. The real quostion ]| was--what was the true value of the land to the settler * The right course to pursue was, to reduce the principle to such a point as that the settler should pay the reduced prin-- cipal, and the interest on the reduced prin pal. (Hear, hear.) Hon, J. S. MACDONALD said the Gov ernmert would just act as they pleased 'Ta hon. member for South Brace bhad sp > three years in abusing the Government, Mr. BL&KE--You spent nineteen yeiw in doing the same thing. (Laughter.) J lences, and not hbe influenceil t of gaining a few votes. In the award of the arbitration hong member for South Bruce. aulciuamens sinss ye t * * T Yaia be Oxtended etr, Lematiy, Loul rrm, -- Colqguahoun (Russell), Calvin Ferguson, Ferrier O ¥>-- Crest , but mont stion both tion, e the rould 9 i if U _ Mr. BOYD reminded the Attorney.--Gen-- | i eral that on more thimn one occasion he had . taken the'opiaion of Mr. Blake, There were { three measires in which it would have tean | Arell for the Government to have taken the $ opinion of Mr, Blake an i ibe Oppos tion. Mr, BLAKE, in a ca'n. and dignified man-- Ror, reg!led to the distribe of the Attorney-- Gene~--!, tauntin« him with his presumption, and want oi originality in his terms o4 abuse. The first resolution was passed. Mr. BLAKE asked ths Government i they intended to have a rep»r prepared on the nature of the lands on whick the reduc-- tions were proposed to be made, (2) That locatees holding mill sites in s:ch territories should be compelled to build such mills as may have seen agreed upon, within a certain time, or forfeit their claims to such mill sites. C. Dr, | Boulter--Resolutions--(1}) That, fin the opinion of the House, it is just that tae original settleas in the towrships since de-- clared free %:ant territory, shonld receive patents for the lands upen which they have squatted, upon as liberal terms as those who have located upon land under the {ree grant Act of Ontario. Hon. Mr. RICE_ARDS was understood t reply in the negative, Mr. BLAKE said he would move an amendment to that effect before concurrence was taken. The Committee passed the sscsond rescla-- tion, then roge and reported proges:. The House rose at 10 :25, . Hon. J. 8. MACDONALD said that the hon. member for South Brace might as well give up advising the C:overnment : for the (iovernment would pursue their oxn course He proceeded in his usual vein to congratu« late biumself and abuse the Opposition. NOTICES OF MOTIGXN.