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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 31 Jan 1871, p. 4

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l Iidemd, and additional expense must 'GGG'"." curred The hotel vote for the current yen was $134,100. He had now gone throaglitlse estimates ;amf in his endeavourjto call the attention ot the Home to psrtiiiit1stltttny it was more mth I View to direct their attenticn thereto that with I View to throw light thereon. Hie aim in drawing up the estimate: tthe/tpi them and the compn i. eons he had ore the country was with a View limplyto phce before the counu-y a. true end correct state of the facts of the case, nothing being conceded. and the whole truth beinggiven yith. "geld to ozeiy ttt The Special Fund: baring interest, and which might be conlidered as surplus, Were " fo1iowi..-. Ut'. Grammar School Fund .5 312.760 trt U.C. Building Fund. "r......... 1,650,000 00 Part of Common School Fund, any r.......... ......... '.r...'.. 1,000000 00 City ot Hawk-n Debentureu... 80 000 00 Do Artur; of interest ... 40,000 00 Making 1 mm! at the and of Elvthe ye" oi............... ... $2,178,415 03 In addition to um there was Awaited on an: January, 1871.....-............... ... t 500,000 00 And the Premium: on Stock Ind Debentures hold by the Governmen: atuuaatingt3... 70,000 00 Making........................ -. $370,000 00 gave tt gland surplus amounting to not has t an $6,748,415. (Hear, hear) The question of nouns arose u to what should be done um: this Inge an lust Some Po Sttlt, would Lyinknaqd 'lpllti wise. Ilon. Mr. WOOD said with regard to the rivet item in the miscellaneous estimates --a sum of $1,097 46 to reimburse John MoLty for costs incurred by him in rw Intutnond- they were incurred in contesting certain r 1m. stions which he did not think the House would refuse to reimburse Mr. MeLay for m was sorry that the vote of $1,000 towards deiroying the expenses ot the 'v olunteera at. tending the Wimbledon Rice Match was not larger. The vote ot $500 in aid of the Ott. turio Ritle Association would be agreed to, while the aid proposed to be given to the Ottawa and Saguenay suderere needed no remark. The item for expenses of arbitration -il.500--waa for assistance in making up re- turns, &e m would mahethis further remark in reference to the arbitration; that in a matter requiring tuchprotraettsd investigation, it ap- peared to him that there had been no undue expenditure. The amount involved was large, and involved grave conseriuences. The arbitrator for Ontario was paid, and the ser- vices of the Dominion arbitrator had also been paid, but Ontario would have a claim acairvitoebee for part of the expenses 0. the third arbitrator) and the Lower Province would of course have to pry its own arbitra- be. With regard to the Municipalities Ford, the'matter need not appear in the estimate! at all, but he thought it better 'hat all sumo which had to be paid " tho Government should come before the Home. in the case of Land improvements, the sum shed for was $290,386, which would be dis- tributed in the manner Indicated. He did notthink that there was anything else to which he need refer. The general position that the Province oc.capied?jko that gthore had been paid avaru-'.U Government not having in fact conducted the government in mat parsimonious way in which they were sometimes charged with conducting it-- nearly tive mlllloua of dollars, nearly a ml lion of which had been expanded on capitzl account;and while MI that had bean done, the Government had laid aside a consider- able sum of money. The investments showed that in 15:38, the sum of $850,000 was in. vested. in . 1569 the sum M "s..'.'......... 8 705,471 US do. Special deposits .-... 687.194 06 1570, doo do...,........ 832,980 '25 ln ment, . iGiG it had been "soulful or not. Be my" ray that he had never seen such conquer u in formation with "gird to even the rm: lest item of expenditure plnced before the country, and he would never have dune it if he had not felt that it was these details which made up the great aggregate. lr, that tt large portion of the fund1 should be permanently invested, whiah would give. " he Ind abated in him former tirtaaeisl speech, with other revenues which were not thsetur.ttng, at least two millions of donors Mr. FERRIER called the attention of the ton. Treasurer to the fact that he Ind omit. ted my ref'rcnce to the miscelimconl Lind Improvement and Municipzlitieu Fund antic mun. Making a total of..., 3'3,095,615 99 53.033309 04 tummy To: the iidbli'o services of tlie country. He (N ntended that on that sum all the nealful services of the country could be performed, and 8500, 000 expanded annual- ly on capital nccount for public work. Some hon. gentlemen claimed that l largetportion of this surplus should be distributed or gravel tomb. &e. He (Mr. Wordl on the contrary thought it should remain an invested fund, to 119.". either by it the, annual income might 9'6 incn ased,"or a portion of the debt tn the Dominion might be paid off; Monte in tiling, so they ivoul:1 be l and the fropcrtio, of public debt which the l Province was nailed upon to pay, and that th: y should know haw tint important bran 2h flood in his estimation. There was another aubjrct on which he though: more informa. tion might reassembly have been vouohsst'ed to the 11oute--he referred to that poteioe cf tho estimates respecting the increased some proposed to be expended in pubic works. But the hon. gentleman 2nd by e x content With giving the House the bare iiguser. This would no doubt have bonan- tuesting it they had not already read it, but as it was, the exploration was not very novel and did not add very much '0 the stock of iafarmstioa siready in possession of the House, (Hear, boar and Ian htor ) As the hon. gentleman had (braved a degree of reticence with. regard to this proposed expenditure, he (Mr. Brake) did not intend to discuss it at length, though he thought it would have hen well if the hon. Treasurer had entered vpnn same explanation with regard to the s. bjoct. With regard to the plenum can- trast presented by the hon. gentleman " to the mar-dram arid under-drafts, the Govern- ment had urged upon thogouse etch session their claim to its praise, nccount of this won expenditure of money granted to then [or pubic "who, Lat he. was unable to dis cam my just ground for laudatinn. It seemed rather on evidence of miarcsoagarztcat, and tLivealualtcioa. though though we were imposing the taxes. Mr. BLAKE asked it the hon rerGeneral really though: tins any diiferenoe. it was quit that the Goverment did not leyy tiv but it was none the less true thit t lrd to be lcriul. Th?.7 were all a: the taxes were levied a: Uttawa. Atty-Gen. MACDONALD that ant to do with it ': Mr. BLAKE will that they .171 knew "in: the mrncy came out of the baskets of. the ratepayers; and this attempt on the par: of the Guvermnont of the Province was ins: as improper as it would be if the people 1-h- pr isd to levy additional taxation. The hon. Treasurer hid propered a comparison of tir: star's estimates, and hail prided hi;..ac?€ on it He (Mr. Blake) had taken up one oi tbg items introduced into the comparison. in order to test it. He referred to the Aeat Well-known emong ermiate " " contin- gtmiea." Thin item he found set down at it. 51.883. in the expenditure for 1869, and er timated nt $15,541 for the entrant year. He felt somewhat amazed et the Materneat, and Mt, "tisiied that thin could not be so. On examination, he found that the statement "as deliberately cooked, the contingencies for 1870 not including those of the Sign. tion otlhets, which were maimed in those for tteprexiousyesr w'th which the compari- lon was made. The Iota', of the departinisat't, contingen'ies in 1570 waort'di.'jtl, while the IMHO itess in 18"!) emulated to $42,539 heing in point of isa'. t0.0C01ess than it was luatyeer. And yet thin we this precioza cumulative atiktetrteat, 7 7, - Atty-Gen. M \CDOKALD imposing the the hon, Atty. -Wha " an W005 aid this mtt.ttt)r was painte} out by himself in hit tinanotU1 upeech. Mr. BLAKE--whettt . Mr. wuoD-in my financ!al speech. Mr. BL IEE-wry the hgn. gentlemar has unruly ffnUhod his manual Speech,and has not mentioned it. Mr. W00 D-Does the hon. tpsnfhrra, Te?n to Ely to say tut I dii rot, say i,' g, the' educstrc,nal cois'viugetreics were fucks "': (.9. re yer lain BLLKE -Ut.s ' y." Jcoicc _ l/r" man had honestly Included the educational con- tingencies in both calculation the rec lit would have been that the expenditure for l870 would have been 326.449, as sgainar. $21,853 for 1860. (Heat) Seeing he manner in which this item was cooked, he (Mr. Blake) did not cu- alder it worth his while to waste hr, time considering such ticaret " were eubmitted in that comparative statement. The hon. Treasurer aid that they ought t ' compare the m,t.sa'ayt with the amounts e " pended; but he thought that the Hour ought rather to take the sums voted for . comparison. He agreed with the hon. ennui», van't, dutimticn of the purposes of the a 1- foreseen and unprqvidisd fund, but he I? gretted that the hon. gentleman had '3' thought it right to carry them out. The fan. was that instead of being able to osniiae Li '.t self within the limits of the 20,000 for tta. foreseen expenses to provide. foe over-Aria he had been obllged to spend nearly tt50,ccto in excess of what what was voted, ot whit; only 88,000 came out of the unforeseen fund. _ " appeareo that because the hon. 't'ressarer oould not put it altogether to tantrttr we n e " penses he made soaihfantvsijeal d!s.iactioac, which, however. he did not think it right ' , l make till about the end of October, wine; - probably he found that if all the cverdrs'h were charged against this fund the fund it, sell' would he overdrswn to the exteatof somo.N0,000. (Hear.) The fact was tic, ' --the unforeseen fund wasa mere fame in l the present way in which it was managzd. He observed an increase in the expend-.- tare of the Governor's House. So the coun- try was not only put to s large expense to construct this building, but was obliged t I pay large cums annually for maintaining 17. _ In fact, the annaal expenditures in cannon- tion with the Governor's house amour-tel to half as much as the united sslaries of the Government. In the Modal and Normal School, he noticed there was also an in crease. The House was also entitled tn some c-r', nation respecting the propord Tech. A 'ml School. There was the Ltem, but r- . '. .mtion aeootupsuiedit In some l of tin .. i *"if'llaYl, it seemed to him moe dutsilcd t glanatlone might have been glen; to the Blouse He noticed that there we: nit-hing said respecting the great rarpla policy of the Government, in brewing whiee they had been so long engaged. It reemei to him that they were like-the man with the 'depuot--they had got it and did not knot what to do with it. M Wt Hon. Mr. WOOD made some expianatim in reply to Mr. Blake's charge that, the edu cution contingencies had been cooked. Mr. BOND objected to the in 3t eggs of the items for gas and fuel. On the item $3 987, for the msictensacc of the Government Home, Hon. Mr. WOOD said the nmounts asked tcr-4800 for gatr, and fl300 for incl wen: required to supply tho Lttratenant,.i3overaor's aaluy. " .i.e%f.F.F%r_.."'_ v-_-__,,,, -"_"" the calculation for one year an: The House then went into Committee ci Supply-Mr. Rykert in the chin. Mr. BLAKE aid the increase was only what was to be expected when a house so unsuited to the salary of the Lieutenvat. Governor was built " the expense of the country. Mr. FERGI'SOX defended the Item. Mr. BOYD asked for explanations respect- ing the expenditure ot $200 for planting. Hon. Mr. CARLING said that every care hid been taken to keep down the expense while Improving the grounds The esti- mates for water and fuel had been based on the consumption of the put aix months. The Government Home was fall value for .t.ys pone}: that had been expended on it. BLAKE-I main to my. ft the mustache hm. gce'lezzsu trim 1aurneut, and l new to rrt.yt1at Ce'trfr-t) e ' ttot a a:

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