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Hon Mr CARLING said that bebelieved the soun-- try would sutain the action of the Governmest in this matter. 'The number of children :Mdfi the common schools rendered_ it 1st probable that the ntmber of pupils expected at this institution would te received _ It was not intended to make it a free institution, but the boys would work s> many hours a day, and thus the expense would be reduced. He had had an approximate estimate made of the cost | . _ ot the mutn&m, by Mr. Buckland and others. It was thought that teaching expenses might amountto $$,.000, hired lapour, $2,000, altogether #10,000, but this item would probably be reduced when the bogl | got into work themselves | It was intended to set the fees at about $30 a pupil, which would produce $3,000, . thus undennin grant of $7,000 a year nocessary. ! Mr. Clarke, who had taken great interest in the mat-- ter, had been requested b' the Government to visit | aimilar institutions in the Stat«s. and he thought that | the appropriation of ¢100,000 proposed was, At an{- | thing. too sma:J even fora beginning It was thought | that the land could be obtained cheap by or near a \ railway station, and the preduce be disposed of at an advantage. Mr. MCKELLAR said that, as a practical agricnu!-- s _| turist, he believed with the hon. member for North Eruce (Mr. Rinclair), that it was premature to under-- take to establish institutions of this sort. The ten-- deney of the yourg men in the country was to run into the professions. We had now all the machinery l necessary to educate our agricalturists--excellont Ccmmon and Grammar Schools. The only success-- ful a?riculnuml were the boys who went to school all winter, and worked hard all summer. He would | n uch rather the Government to--k this money and ! ircreased the endowment of the Grammar Schools | Mr. CRAIG (Glengary) supported the moti n 'i The item was carried. | _ Item, $50,000 for College of Technology. ! Mr. BLAK® asked for explanations. 1 Hop. J. $. MACDONALD said it was propased to erect the colleee on the grounds of the Normal School. -- Institutions of this kizrd had been veryuso-- fcl in the Vnited states, and would hb so herge~-- especially schools of mineralogy; for ignorance of mireralogy had cost many of the inhabitents of the country dear. He would ask was it not time that the diivers of our loccmotives, who were entrusted with so wmany lives, should be thoroughly taught their bcsiness ? This wou'd be done in this college, whers. | an on»st other thines, there wouid be lectures on th nachinery of an engiue Mr. BLAKE said the time had avtled when in creased attention should be devoted to these su>-- jects. But he entire'y difered from the view that the properi way to do this was to erect sepmat buildinas, establish a separate stail of professors, and duplicate the present state of things in ous colleges The Ait rnev. Geveral raid that engine--drivers +nd | stokors would be benefited by this school. But what were the subjects to be taught! They wers matne-- matics, chemis«'ry, natura® philosophy, civil and me-- chanicel encinecring, asd the modern lanziage»s, the proposa: was simply a branch of a university system. (ilear, hear) Thess tvranchos cou'd be targht in the University, and when the magnijlcont erdowmeit of tha*t institution was considered, they cucht to be thucht there. To duplicate the Univor-- sity within a {ew yards of E'sell was a wild, extrava-- gant s«cheme. (Hear, hear.) The present proposal came from a querter that was always opposed to the Interests of the Univer.ity. . (Heary4.0AF,.) Hor. J. 3. MACDONALD-- It cam ; om Professor | Caatm2an,. | Mr. ELAKEsaid that the Attorney General wali trew thatihe schome was supported by the Educa | tion Offico--he well knew that the head of the Edu-- ! cation Office hast opposed the Toranto University as a go:less insiitution, and proposed that the erdowmens shouid be divided amongst the denomi-- notional colleces That ofticial wanted a rival school in the N. rmai schooi grounds, uader his own win?, (He.x, hear.) 'The pr.posed isstitutton would cost wore than was now state@--for five professorehtp3 | ~ cn'c uot be supported for leas than $:0010 ayear. Atty --Gen. MACDONALD said th's attempt to gal-- yamze an institution which had faited would not be T itcogiiful. -- He was not ready to keep up that insti-- tuticn by further grents of the public money--an | institut'on which was reyond the wants of the Pro-- | vince Tte first gentleman who wa aske1 to pre-- | pure an e~timate on the matier was Dr. Chapman | and he cil not know where the hoa imembur hal got | his Encwledga of the Rev Dr. Ryerson being the | pa cnt of the idea. The school was intended to be | 2 Pr. vincial instituiion, The Goveroment had no'h-- | ing to do wish the Univer ity. and did not wish to have anything to do with it, 'The diflicaity the Pro vince sulfered from was that it had no College of Mines where wineralogy could beacquired with any dearee of efliciney ; and this would be met by the humble instiutio» n»w proposed , ¥r, BLAKE saitd his grouads ofaction on this mat | ter were fouaded on economical principles, t Hon Mr WOOD defended theestablishment of the ! College, quot'ng the experionca of the States ia sup | port of his positlon, He proseaded to quote from t Mr. Chapman's report. ¥r, BLAKE express« d the hope that the report, as | it bad been quoted by the Kon, Areasurer, would | be laid befcre the House. | Mr. WO7D said this would not be done . | _ Mr. BLAKE said that it was the obsarved Par in | mentary practice that documents quoted by Mint:-- | ters of the Crown should be enbmitted to the House, ; | This course should be followed in this case Attorney--Ganeral MACDONATD--The report was forithe information of the Min'siry;as to making 1 public, we shail do as we please. (Oh ) | YVr. FKRGSON was cf opinion that the University | might be utilized, | | _ Hon Mr. CAMERON said thit the Government pad received a proposition from the Senate of ch« University that the University might be utilized, | ! but ihe Gs vernment had not consented, and would | | tabe cbe respunsibility. | _ Mr. BLAKR--Hear, hea" ! The item was passed. | _ On item $150,000 for contral prisons, c ies of ad | j urn" wérerai od _ and the commit,¢c then rose, | reported, and acked leave to <is again *K** | -- Housegdjeurned at 11:20 p m.