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e of at has Jn- uy ive to aco e3. ke) in-- the re-- he 3a he 1e' Lo 4 at, he nat ned by Ha be-- or. In>-- EM &3 nl1d re-- ho the B ) ald 189 tha for for uch ex-- hat iss he ad he ke io% le-- ho n# he ae II-- YA of sh AFr 0n D. at 12 Je t¥ a% | , 8. That this House feels bound to record its protest against the breaches of the Con-- | stitution and the violation of Provincial | tights above mentioned, and its conviction that precaution should be taken to prevent their recurrence. That it is expedient further to secure the independence of this House, by rendering ineligible as members thereof, all persons holdivg employments of profit at the nomina-- tion of the Government, whether such profis be or be not payable out of the public funds; saving, however, the rights olp Justices of the peace, and Notaries Public, and of the other office--holders specially excepted by the Also, resolution, that this House feels bound to express its regret that no effectual steps have been taker to bring to justice the murderers of Thomas Scott, and its opinion that something should be done to that end. Mr, McDonald (Leeds) -- A : resolation that this House embraces the earliest oppor tunity of expressing its extreme regret that the efforts made by the Licutenant--Gover-- nor of Manitoba in issuing warrants for the arrest of Riel and his company of murderers, which were cause of re]oich to certain of the members of the first Parliament of Ontario, have proved perfectly fruitless, and of expreesing its earnest hope that vigorous and efl'ectunf efforts will be made to bnlfi to speedy f'ustice the murderers of our loy and deeply lamented fellow--countryman, Thomas Scott. Hon. J. G. Currie--A Bill t amend the act entituled an act respecting registrars and registry offices, and the registration of in-- struments relating to lands in Ontario. Also--A Bill respecting municipal elec. tions,. Also, that this House do forth with resolve itself into a committee of the whole to can-- sider the following resolution :-- Act to secure the ind;i;efiagi;;'-of- ~ this House. Also--A Bill act of 1869, 1, That for many years prior to Confeder-- ation the people of Upper Canada (now On:-- tario) hadpe been demanding representation according to population. 7. That the Parliament of Canada con-- templates the establishment of additional Provinces in the N orth--West Territories, 2. That the justice of this demand was re-- cognized in the negotiations which resulted in Confederation, and it was agreed between the several Provinces that the principle o' representatior according to population shouald be applied to the House of Commons of Can-- ada. Mr, McKellar--An address for q return giving the name of each townsh; in which contracts have been let under tge drainage act, the name of tha contractor op contrac-- tors, the anount of contract, the length of ditch in each case, and the rate per rod or cubic yard. _ Also the. names of the engineers who made the prel_lminary surveys, as also the names of the eDgimeers who super. interded or now sn perintend suoh drainage, Also, the amount paid out of the consoli. dated Ievfie of _ the Ptovincg. Ja 6. That the Parliament of Canada, during its last session, presented an address to the Queen, praying that she would unite British Columbis with Canada on terms which pro-- vide for its representation in the House of Commons by six members, while its popula-- tion is about 10,000, a representation still further in excess of the fust proportion. 5. That the Parliament of Canada ha: ed an Act assuming to establish the E::vince of Manitoba, and to provide for its representation in the House of Commons of Canada by four members, while its popula-- tion was under 12,000, a representation vastly in excess of the iust proportion. in ConfeZeration. and it was acreed Betwaen fLsesoex wounl€. see that by voting for that in Confederation, and it was agreed be tl' "': ameor4ment he would :.'oty accmubplieh what the several Provinces that the principle {)d he 'desiredl, numély, the preoventing representation according to population shou lof aid_ being given to railways at be applied to the House of Commons of Can-- 'all, . He argued that Esgex wounld 2da. sufer no injustics by public aid being 3 That the said principle was #o applied by piven to ow railways, as the section of the the British North America Act (1867) "he'." country to be bemefitted by those rail ways by also it was declared that on any increaso'0f would ycturn to the treasury as muchk in the the number of members of the House.of way of revenue as they took ount for th--ir Commons, the proportionate representation railways. He wor*t on to criticise some re. of the Provinces %oy that Act prescribed marks of the leoader of the QOpposition re-- should not be disturbed, and that the terams mnecting the newbors for Halton and Seuth and conditions of the admission of--new Pro-- Norfolk,. If the latter gentlemanr was ro-- vinces should be subject to the provisions o0f turnod on -- his parliamentsary _ record, that Act. so was the former, and as he (the mm 4. That the said principle is ane:sential ber for Halto®r) had voluntarily done the element of the feden? system, and a funda. Government some service last terme he mental part of the contract between the sev. should continue to serve them by his support. eral Provinces, and ought not to be violated In the view of geutliemen opposite, if a mon. ithout the assent of the Provinces. Ber left the Covernment side ard supported hm the Opposition it was all right; but if a 5. That the Parliament of Canada ha: member on the Oppogltlgn side gup?grt'cd ed an Act assuming to establish the the Governmert he was charged with E:).vince of lI&DitOb&, and to provide for its Bein ])ought' The member for !\ ing. representation in the House of Commons of lton%md been alocted to support the reil way Canada by four members, while its popula-- policy of the Government and vet the first tion was under 12,000, a representation thing he did on coming to the Kouss was to 3 That the said principle was zo applied by the British North America Act (1867) where: by also it was declaredthat on any increasa'of the number of members of the House of Commons, the pro%orflonate representation of the Provinces by that Act prescribed should not be disturbed, and that the terms and conditions of the admission of--new Pro-- vinces should be subject to the provisions of that Act. quention before the Houss: he Wonld 9 D' returned at mnext election. The hoP: member's opinion on that subject cor. '!ln)i;iid not trouble him much. (Laughter. ) The hon. gentleman had spoken of the us-- terances of the Windsor Record as if he were reaponsible for them. That appeared to him to g-: strange way of discussing the basi-- ness of the House, but he would tell that hon, gentleman that he -- never wrote a line for any neWwspaper He had no organ. (Laughter.) That gen-- tlemsn had certain'y taken a good deal apon himselt when }.; ventured to ten.hl.n that he had gone contrary to the wishes and feelings of his constituents. (Hear, hear.) He supposed it must be because the member for Lincoln knew, in his own con-- science that he had been entirely free from any tergiversation of any kind (hear)--that he bad never broken any pledge; it must be because of this, that he of ali others had the right to charge him (Mr Prince) with having said what his consci-- tuents did not wish him to say,. Re-- ferring _ to the question before the House, he remarked upon the absurdity of supposing that an Act of Parliament could not be repealed; and yet that was the objection taken to the amendment of the member for South Bruce. The absurdity ot such an objection was manifest,. (Cheers ) Mr. MACDONALD (Leeds) moved, ge conded by Mr. FITZSIMMONS, the ad. journment of the House. io areridl the assessment v88 for a return nship in which der tge drainage ctor or contrac. b, the length of the rate hner rad m on the Mr, MACKENZIE said his keaourable friend bhad ecvidently mistaken the point that \the honourable Commicsioner of Crown | Lands was driving at. | That horcurable | gentleman was endeavouring to prove that E;anolleague, the Secrotary, was not entit. led.to afall vote, as ho oaly represcated 3,000 people. (Laughter.) > A:r. BLAKE--If the hon, gentlen turn to the paper of the next day, fl'} a foll rciort of both the speech _ rel? aud the hou, Treasurer. (Loud and laughter.) l k columns, said his reply and the reply of the Treasurer to that speech was disposed of in a few lines, That was the one--sided way the facts of the care wore sent out to the Hoa. Mr. CAMERONgaid he was discues-- Ing the question whethor it was right to de. cide mpon which side of the KWouse should hold the reinsof Government, while cight seats were unrcpresented. He charged the meom-- ber for Seuth Bruce with misrepresenting the policy of the Government, and referred particalarly to a specch of that gentlemen on the surplus last session, February 8tk. He turned to the fyles of T'gs Grose, and ad-- verting to the fact that the speech of the member for Routh Bruce occupled four Mr. BLAKE roge to a point.ef order. The hon. gentloman waos discuesing the amend-- ment proposed by the member for South Norfolk, wliich had been dispesed of, and :ll:ez efore it was out of order to dekate it fur. er. be¢ 1 5 _ Mr. _ ROBINSON, of Kingston, said that mmfi mm &?k?&xx;?issito:?r of Grown Lands had at. f m ce within the last twenty. 8500!10 PARUAME"T'"HHST SEssm" four hours, and this fact showed that that gla;nt}e,man must have lost his memory. ; s mallizeaikn<ite (Lan udghtltlar.) 'll'fie Com;nissioner of Crown AK F s charged him with having chauged his o»c}}clSPE. AKER took the chair at three mixd as to the manner in which the railway 'i'i;le should be vo}ted.} Butlhad not zbe BTANDING ORRERS asurer, the night before last, said that COMMITTRE, If the R,ailway Act of last session were Hon,. J. S. MACDONALD, from the com. defective, it could be amended, 1If mittee appeinted to strike ths zelect stang. the Ministry changed their minds, why ing committoes for the sess! teq {1, C0U1d not he (Mr. R.) change his mind, (Ap e s L _ * 22. O " _ * NOporteth: SC piguap and laughter) The Commissioner of names of the committee on stamding orders. E":.,w,, T andla raminial hinw aImam . it Oe BTANPING ORDERS COMMITTE®E, Hon, J. S. MACDONALD, from the com-- mittee appeinted to strike the melent st... 3 ay the ex f prelimi irvayy "" "", * _hanateon--he, m "Ireut defray the expenses of preliminary surveys Hop. Mr. CAM bing -- 11 and superintendence in each case, Boint, went on to s ;Zggif,'u 'éll;gp(gl;pgosi: * Mr, Boultbee--A bill to provide for trs wanted was to ghet over to the Government gepmation of the city of Toronto from the benches. _ Aif ough they had not 3 county of York for certain judicial purposes, majority in a full House, they. wished and to prevent the trial in the county of to take advantage of the absence of York o? any suits in which the causun nf a~. min®hLA ----_ "4 S centleman will }, he will m of him.' 11q cheers | Hon, J. 8. MACDONALD said ke hoped the honourable gentleman would mnot withhold anything on his ac. count, Mr. Robinson proceeded to say that Sir John A. Macdonald had stated in Kingston that he had a carference in Jan-- vwary with the Premier of this House, set-- tling bow the cloctions were to be run. Ho stated that they had agreed to run the elec-- tloxs on the railway sc%xome, with the aid of the million and--a--half vote. The people of Kingston were told that if they elected him (Mr. -- Robinson), -- they would get no aid from the Atborney-- General for their railway, Some gentlomen in the Houre appeared uot to understazsd his politics, and the reason of that, perkaps, was, that many of his 8".pporters were Con-- servatives; but he would tell those gentle. men that he was a staunch Reformer, and he would tell them. one reason why he was so. Shortly after he came to tiia coun-- try a frieed took him to a meeting of a Conservat've league, and then to his surprise he b.eard every gentleman there ex-- cept one advocate annoxation, and that ex-- ception wus Mr. Ozle R. Gowan. Advert. ing to the question ietore the House he re. feated his statem--snt that he would vote to eave the question of granting ald to rail-- watya to the Legialature and not to the Exo: cutive. was 'the way provided by the &ct of last sersion; but he wust confess his wiews on the #ubject "had consderably chamged after hoering the able argaments of the leador of the Opposition--the more #o as he thought the wish of the country was ex. presseq by the House; and the House ho re-- garded,as a ogrrect expenent of the country, was in favour--of the views on this subject of that 'hon, gentieman, It appeared to him, how. ever, that the proposition of the member for Sowth Victor'a was & proper oneand he would 'support it, Had hebeen in the House last semion he syould have voted against the ascheme proposed 'by the member for Soith Bruce for the distribution of the surplus. Mr. OJIAVER said he would support the amendme®rt of the enember for South Bruce, matter. ~He(Mr, R.) had a broad back and would never be driven from what was right, tCheers.) If he had said that he would give the Governament a fair trial, and if, when he came here,he had found that in nine months they had only brought forward a bantam, he would be ashamed of himself, (Applause ) Mr. Robinson having adverted to the various modes in which the --local papers in Kingston had chosen to describe his politics sa'd he felt it an honour to repre. sent the good old city of Kingston,. (Ap. plause.) There was no city in Canada with a better reputation; no city more loyal, or more respected. (Hear, hear.) That city had sent statesmen to Parliament, it hal sent John A. Macdonald, a gentioman that ruled not only the CGovernment at Ottawa, but the CGovernment of Ontario. (Cheers . and _ laughter.) He:' (Mr.' "R, did, mrot biame Sir John A. Macdonald, | for ruling in Ottawa, but he did not want him to rule here while he (Mr. R.) was here. (Cheers and laughter.) He believed in the. olicy of aiding railways. | Mr. BLAKE--Hear, hear. | Mr. ROBINSON--Claimed a share of the' ailway fund for the Kingston and Péembroke Mr. BOULTRBEER objected to the use <f offensive lingwage in the House. He repu diated the impytation that he was not an indeperydent member,. He appraled to the House to put«lown that sort of language; With regerd to the questicn before the House, ke wes inclined to favour the amend. ment ef 'the member for South Victoria. Whea hesentered the House he thoughkt the proper course to defll.!vigh aid to ratways 3 An o0 o CS T e e EBCE dro 1, ~S principle, and ons which it would be dan-- thep(gi;pgosit;;;t !g)erouz? t:' violate. The late Commissivner e Government | of Crown Lands khad come up to his consti-- had not a ; tuency, and altheugh he was a member of they. wished the Government,--although he had all the o_ absence of ; Patronage of the Covernment at his disposal, into power, | and the Southerm Railway to help him, and he supporters ' although his opponent wae sumply amechanic Iged to their 2° Wwas defeated by a majority of 496 votes. Government | One of the causec of thatoverwhelmtng defeat a fair trial-- Was the course cf the Government upon this very question before the House. He would ey orly once } A i the support of -- just refer to onme kind of influence used by n to say that te late Coxpmmsxoner, and he thought that b asily» would furnish one reason why the Govern. 0 80 oasuye ment had hurrfed on the clections. The cen. t a fuil H90SE | gug was about to be taken and that gave a « certain amornt of patronage, which though on, said that in the hands<f the Dominion Government ands had at. < was of course used to help the Local Gov-- > last twenty. ernment. (Hear, hear.) It was so used in red that that : his constituency. The Enumerator appoiat-- his memory. ; ed was the bosom friend of the Uommissioner; ier of Crown| they travelled together throughout the rid. ig chaunged his| ing, slept :' together, --went through mud and h the railway ; mire together night and day. The snb--enu. had not the ! merators too had to use their influence on ast, said that | behalf of the Commissioner, One of them session were | promised to vote for him (Mr. Oliver), and amended, If | he was dismissed the next day, and ancther minds, why | man appointe':'x .in.hig place. In other coun-- Mr, CUMBERLAND procesded to attack . the mexsber for South Bruce, when, thore being eries of order, My, SPEAKER said there had been a ol Aeal of personalities uttered during the . goou < ~ debate; but he had not inte:r.. course of tne ~at" the members fered because many . ~sned older ue Lew to the Honse: bus ho u. ""C fa stt 0 bers would avoid these personalities, Mr. CUMBERLAND bowed to the do-- cision of the chair, and went on to deprecate the introduction of personalities into the debates. He reviewed the charges that had been made against the Government. In reference to the Soott ca--e, he sald Mu. Blake, when he brought up his motion, knew that the Governmes; was muzzled by the limitationg of pesponsibility, f&ha could not acs He argned that Mr, Blake had shown inconsistency in bhe course he had pursued in reference to the Bill dealing with the will of Sir Henry Smith, as compared with the course he had taken on the Good» hue Bill of last year. He charged Mr. Blake, in the scheme he proposed last gos-- sion with reference to the distribution of the surplus amongst the municipalities, with having appealed to cupidity. SPEAK ER--Order. Mr. CUMBERLAND said that he was not addressing himself to any member of the House, but to human nature,. (Hear, hear, and laughter. ) find young members opposite continually lec-- turing gectlemen on his side of the House upon how they ought to couduct the debate. This was anr implication that Mr. Speaker was not doing kis duty, and, he thougrt, it would be morse becoming in these young members to leavs the question of propriety to the Speaker. EELT ER D EDEAAETT TTE rotatistett -- snttatrin' Witridacsint 2W (PUE NCE had come to this House on a p':a.tforr'.n cimlar to that on which he (Mr. Deroche) had come. His (Mr. Deroche's) ideas of independeance were, however, diferent from those of the hon. member for Kingston. The latter gon-- tleman had come here and attachked himsslt flo & pafrty, 'bui.hc {(Mr. Derocke), although C Wag from inst rank a 9 2¢ + tlat that he would be doing his duly to e ouad stituents if, after what ho had sge»m .. coming to this Heuse, hs did not give the Government of Mr. John Sandfield Macaon-- ald a fair and maunly support. He {Mr. Deroche) came here from a county largely interested in railways, and he approved of the railway policy of the Government. His county was a poor county, but one neverfie. less, from whic! the Governmect derived a large amourt of revenue, He would have pleasure in voting for the amendment of the membser for South Viectoria. Mr, DEROCHE replied to some zemarks of the membor for Kingston, who, be said, T C IC 'dutdate: Sucs, °0C en it C ELE J ties the same kind of infuence was used, but | without avail, for the --CGovernment khad no | longer the confidence of the Houseor the coun try. The Oppositionhad been charge i with at. tempting unduly to inflzence memberc, but they could not if they would bring these in-- fluences to bear which the Government con-- trolled. It was not on'y members e the Government that were attempting to in. fiuence membors ; outside pressure Avas brought to bearzpon them. .A certain poli-- ticien who at one time very near got to the position of Governor, whko had cwught a glimpse of the Fromised Land, but was rot allowed to enter, had been very busy in the labbics of the House tryirg to> help the Goverrnment ; he was watching by the bedside of the .dying Miristry--(laugh ter,)--and endezsvyouring to afford them some corsolation, Mr. Olivor went on to 'say that the country expested some policy from the Government on the subject of & settlement of the Munaicipal Loan Faoud The excuso was that the award was not settled, bnt, if the Covermnment were not s» subservient to the OttawaCGoverrerent, that matter might have been settled before this time. Mr. T. B. GUEST (Seuth Perth) said he would oppose the amendment of the leader of the Opposition it it was made for the pur-- pose of censuring the late Legislature, and declaring want of coniidence in the Govern* ment--the more 80, aslone--tenth of the con: stituencies of the province were unrepresented in the House. But if the amendment was intended merely to aflirm & principle he | would support it, as he anproved of the It now being six o'clock, the House rose for reces#. Aifter recess, Mr. CUMBERLAND continued. He ad-- verted to the position of the members for Halton and Essex, and the relations they held with the Opposition. Mr. WOOUD (South Vistoria) wished to say a few words before his amendment was put© to the vote. He regretted that so much personality had_ been introduced into the debate. He had not intended to attempt to direct legislation -- in the House, but after the amendment of the leader of the Ofiposition he felt it his duty to place before the House the proposi-- tion contained in his amendment, Mr. SINCLAIR was rather surprised to Al _ Anma®ie . LCs sound constituton»s 63 #4 » § §