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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 11 Dec 1871, p. 2

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Mr. Bexton.-Count '- orth, for Act to amen¥i "fit1,5ii,l,,drg,t l u. . job; bat the innit-r6 "ifiri .. ' oad Companies Act." 'poke Wti8 ttot 33 gotd a wagging"? Sh' tl'imlon Ill',' . e p no PO or t r e 00!. c s.P,?sTsTi-, " . DEBATE ONTmil ADDRESS. tf?ftgat.heL,tt1, scum theme," i',' The disposal of 3313:): i11lft2',t,1vdit,i,tt i . Mr. PEROCBE in -mOVlng the re 1 " ' 9itppssition 11:8 the last Parlituucu,, he tsogrtnt an outrage to ttotvstitution 'l, Was "-rsf, i. .. .52, ions in reply to the ad dress fromsothle done their he?" give. but small band, had git?" he gilt eompé1le4to move s'l'llgleg, ' 5 , ".', hrone, asked the indul the] . . gm: a proper Ct , r. ardee that th f '. . " . gence of the . einelatiOn of th Pry, to be , tt ollomng word _ ouse on that his ilrat 8 ar llmtient th e country. This Pain addedto the first p!tgra h .--. 8 ad a difficult, duty to wag?! 'll'tt, He obliged, l, appearance of thinus bud ' But we feel bound to slicing . F . opettorrn it in the mm" of. men $11128: claimed that ditty if? the Government 3&0!th of informing Your English: -f . , v e a a i . we I them $1123; a 1E,utielurlhtrogtugt. 2tdiht year only J)grt")gg, {3:36 tettiiltiiJStat,at,1e/ltt""stg,tg,1, by she "os" . . . 0 support theG . the guida f Ion, un er _ .. proved that the policy ot the G 0 ad Attornei r, _ T overnment. The nee 0 Your present Mini i cnt w ' overn. h-Nenerat nadask d reference to the] . New in .. assessments"; or httd 'lii'lag"Jtefs J1t,u wettest: ',e,7itlr, " to tt'1'1g'h'lfJl street dence of the people of this P econ. Una "'5 "it or Angus; would be mV id Fund; and to Mat . Il . ' , . - I t. a trle for th " _ 0 i 3 that tttour hen taking the resolnt' "Vince. a unit. e issue of We write f p m on the proposal of the G V Ions clause b pew general elect' ur ant id "ailment to lause the hon gentleman . , y his ion,but he had abu , gr tll to any railway sh 1d ' . . power as Att te . tedf th t911 beBIIbmit- . he question ot the arb't' Infeference to ad is . orney-Genersl and had or e appmval or re . . tron bet V edttus issue of th . ' Le 11 ti jeCtion of the . ' be two Provinces of O I re ween l e writs unexpected- g s * ive Assembly, so as . . stario and q b y, and had Certs 1 . Itir ,e 7 not to leave BO ' m tt would be premature to us ec, adv in y obtained a certain g , sum tt8 $1.500.090 at the di make man afltage therefrom but tho Executive . sposal of 3?: ks 031 that subject, " the award hug for his purpom for his knewnotthate 'ttrt House, allp1'0p'riavtviiiuuilllit a vote of this . - d repu ated, and the question remain. not posed-is control of the chambe I 1" works.' g c same to pardon 5 'ld'ligftd one; he preferred to leave that position cheers.) Be had also 11321180? Hon. M. C. CAMEROV . i _ , . I. an gholgvgevgglli? °i-&h§ hon. gentler gauging 3%"8 for election Purposes £1in 5rg.2ttt in ifir'dlefijflNug'i/Ltlt, hon. us l e to deal . a e ed upon the m b w ich he had b n ment t. On the education . . with sex P S. em er for Es. rought forward 11 d Question which w ( rince) to confirm this ta that the present au ' a tshown emost importanttothe en in as The Government h d 8 tement by the . on was to be marked he people, the lestiss 'fllitf, er welfare of tiers in Proton l" also Called. the set- The h same tactics as the preceding on character to meet wi proposed was of . an other townships, who . o.n. gentleman had reterr d C8. . . ith the 8 mm were animus to have the rice . - tain things which . e .t? cer. , 1118133 ot. the legislation which has his: lands reduced, into voting reflux. t2tlr of the country thttur2tg, legislation . a umpritrtilg the last four years, he would a tsaying that it would be inexpedient foi- which it was idle to deal Witch facts, and . bashful"; pae21tett, cause for mg: toltet11wredl 1i,'ree/lt, tome govern. le whifchiit would have been dame. . . g a ract' - . erea ter. allu , 33 o r ht a . a .213?" of the dune? of a tegcherllcizlheaxd 1nrlgir, use made of the railway gidti'uiilzie shown him'it 2eulgg/gt,t.o,; would hare .. rought before him the feet that the ' l, then alluded to the iiiiiiii'Ud'rocre He alluded to the murders any to allude to. .1 3119 available for the training of teachers 2i g a borough administration. The Bee. hon. .gentieman had found fll teg, The "tr/tlg,titt?t'eg,'d he Anew the result. 'J/IR, represented the bankrupt borough election that the 'dfi1lt,1f12ttl apreVious . . . . n thatmarliy of the teachers had G iagara, which was in the hands of any which he had uttered in th tog address eenlmeihcmnt. . owever, under the late overnment. The AtwrniyoGenerai also had the effect on the Conn: onse had . figis ation great, JPp.rotttntn? had been represented the next sin 1 borough ot intended. If ever there was'y Which was . . s 'ected,an it might be that the Govern, oornwall, which he apparently found easy would disgrace a stetesmtnajhing that . _ out would find it mews"), to establish to keep. The Treasurer owed his resolutions which were brou'hlt was. the h er schools.. of instruction similar to return .to the burrough of Brant. House on the subject of let, into that b at nplw existing at Toronto. He believ- laid OWith . its Grand Trunk votes. , SCOtt. He (the hon. gentleman)1 rder Of ' ' a 31:1 "l Act would be supported by the P (L. ommigslonem of Crown Lands and 1 there was no supporter of the Gov) knew 'I _ 'e dto eeling of the country. With bu IC Works, also represented nothing Elle did not condemn the o11thr ernmont l',flf, hthe contemplated School of Tech. 1'3 boroughs. What else but the know- i knew that the Government had ',frlifi He . " gy, e considered that sucha school 8 ge of these facts took the Secretary to l dQ-Wllhit. and that it was in A Y. mg tp) y, (lt very greatly needed, especially for the Exford to be spewed out of its mouth. should be mur,t.LncJ, here ')11"ei"/'rge1it, it; _ '/ lop? of supplying to the engineers em. mph. members like him (Blake,) were more the success he had had on (c/li '. mung l F ye on. the railroads and steamboats e y to properly represent the wants of Sion. he referred to it tutai rst, "603': _ ttl practical education which would en- the country. The policy of the Govern. gentleman had also refuge-3t The hon l . 6 them to fun") heir duties in a proper Ptn.t on er the ate Commissioner, sentation of Manitoba but tl . t? the T.p.re- anner. The sublectof immigration 'eir,151,e,tr,.1.,tc) had been narrow, contracted todo with our 1l)rC('l'ntl(i11j' 1'efe,'It'nee' . ne he considered more in the hands of blundering and hair-splitting. He was frie.nd (the 'fr1T5.,fJl)ll)dle/0)th1,,s,, hon, ' ethDominion G' vernment than in those ours that the House would readily pass a against it the", and "mid "Emil, burned ad e Ontario Legislature, yet the latter vote expressive of the thanks of the coun. ,(CheCYSl. The lion. gentlet " it in?" q . done something for the cause of im- try, not so much at the elevation of the referred to the action bf 0:3thl "if" L' igrationscd be believed would do more sperm"? to the Commissionership of with reference to alleged lute rm" P"t.ie.s l ever this Province was to become great. crownlsnds, but the depressi n of the the elections in Ontario it, C"'lttf,it with ted, fulfil its real destiny it could only ii', Commissioner to the Secretaryship, where the hon. member for 'ijt1u f'lali'mged limhlncrem to its populatiul. m if was not of much importance whether Whether it was so or not {IMO J 50'8"}. w e t e9yve.ryn.ent. ofthis Province 9 ever made up his mind or not, The .mmmn Government had i l' y" t osprepared P aidihe Dominion authoq. government had all along been kept up with his election. He chars ed thgtblfilCtl , -. tiles in promoting this desirable end. Of y the Government at Ottawa. He said merit. too, With havinr b5", rh govern- _ Cit; proposahio establish a School of Agri- that the representation of Manitoba by clections atatinw wilt-[15;L Wain, t on the, . . ll tore he said that such an establishment four Wombat], and of British interests of tireO .7 . " M not Ill Ir, would be of the greatest value to the farm. Columbia by six members, was a ' be so "i,t)idJ'11t'1fP'"fki(,"(dl,,"it,. they tb-Thi'; giggif the lcountry, and believed it would bgeagh ot tho constitution; neither inconvenient for the It",'.:?'),',:,'.,,',?,"': as l f point ar measure. The next clause ll t use Provinces had a popula- portersss for the hon ufetnber's t . IIT,, :3 83in; to the aid proposd to be given tion of one-fourth that of Huron, which _ the bad state of the road: cou'drlrigtf if} If, r epurpose of draining the SWB-mps he salad .49,,000, voters. Where was the old brought forward as an obstacle to the "he - So actcrized as a measure of great utility. i) :Bolple of representation by population, side more than the o1her He felt nit: , wh-IPhuch- land was now lying useless l' {Erich Itetormers had so long fought , certain that if Ihey had not iirno toctbu. ed w, might by a slight outlay be render. n e . en referred to the Scott case and the ( teract the cfiect of this rcsolution on t (l; t fiUflf valuable, that this proposal could 1Aim-issue. of the warrants for the arrest. of , subject oi lion, it tlwre had been lime foe: I Wh lat to be productive of great stood , '3 murderers, and the tact, oi Govern. i I the sober lhiiught, of the people a ver Ji' t ti e the method of applying the money t g'rchibald shaking hands With Riel. Why ferent talc Would have been told A'il'hel 2tdltUl11diesiet gas to a certain extent thisstlgwercchlifo rIcicreincc to all tat-so his? in iti'itleti1,tal had not chosen to attack an; . ' . eat St was not new In t- are erence tot cesta ish- t . g that had been a . . w _ township with which he w . ,One merit of the Technological College he said is presented m the . peech from the Throne b h not less than 20000 acres 06';. acquainted a Bill should hare born brcu ht d . t ut e appeared t & d had been . g own to to take his stand on the a . . thus enabled to be brou an ' arrange the conduct thereof Th M. h . p yment ot wit- . ght under cultiv - Bi . . l e l C out ncsses which he seemed to co id lion. rhet'lauses relatln to th it ill had not given the satisfaction which thin ' All l1 ns era bad the courts of law and g . c state of the address had churned for it Ile . .. , g. ' w owere acquainted, with the . uit ' ', . no subject knew how re l, SMImBm' of Witnesses inq cri3r'niunalldcasutis3 3 ',1etgreery, tplpronounco upon the pic injustice it was wit t1;igeafr,ir,vtg1g,1, an _ _-,--.---- ealt with matters on which legislation Onl twelv:n 3qu inure public echoois. are not paid, but the hon. gentleman had l cc, Mr". ---'-----'T __-----.- - Jt'tigydoiggitfi Passing by the clause; hady passed!" thilougli "i1tt""hrt,ieti,' not made up his mind on tl1atquestion. $5.331! '$3 atr,its dad'gz In - mess"? the 't1r'giit2tuet'e,"i1itvagt,1, that ex- School were now teaching Tub: The 110113 gentleman sai.d. there were some l _ Fic, "W d: , k', . y , might lil upogsihtgiz'l it?" Mvine blessing required explanation He did not favor 333381" ghgcgmmumty who must bear -------------------------------" a ors the hon. e - the ir e, 1 , '. ' _. . . . 10110 t c urdensot'the State out he _-.----.------------------------------ tleman concluded by " re '. g n I oposit to Lav witneseetl in Criminal r ty ' _ ' . _ - . , ., _ Mill _ . p U ably did not forget th t We 33:: tha) the present iirtt',ieL12tc,od.'uti 'dll?" its tt.,ttetet'sedt1,f to/ie/det; thejurorswcee not in. 12tllt'i,tlhe g orward meaSures that p h 'ul -, C' t cuiais tice of that was so manifcst thata LEGISLATURE 0F oNTA gmcct with the approval of the H would 8 on d ..c given before he expressed his sion was afterwards iiiTirLi: th ,Provi _ "In :0 ecount 011M and Opinion. The programme laid out was is ment J a . h t ' "r pay -----_--_-- ' le, ry. (Hear, hear.) very meanre Ut t a . . - t . urors,judges constables clerks. - W, nd violated th r n , _ , not Second 1?arlitumsnt--Wirgt Session. the 13223311130 SIAClSOé'I ALD in 'rfee,'11t Slade last Session bv the s,v)i'tlt',is,t'i'i?:1,',',i': 2,' 33:51:13.1: J11, nTil1ls'lfc" Connected "r113 --e---<>---- . p, 831 c regretted he co [ ringing down measures for the . _ l -S we wyre now pd t " MONDAY, 11th Dec. 1871 not do Justice to the subject, but rel'illd' of the surplus. True it Was that "13:25:; "if" tue unmnuufm' iuuisndtrtl Who Was- Tile SPEhEER took the chair at" 810 le, cqnndence on the kind reception al- ling of the "Ward Wits an excuse for the ft. ed "$01160 discharge the duties 0i and, the mace having been laid upon my It}??? Th'!,',', to a new member, Little Was norHu.lf1.lnet of these promiscabut he did might b Lthd'dh not matter how poor he "We. reyl to the House a letter which he h pr 1m to say after the able and ex. not think that the refusal of the Dominion - e, e ou. gentleman would not had received from Mr. Fraser the member Danetive spee9h they had just listened to Government to decide upon the award sayuwhcther '11,?" tshould by.pay1 or not. for West Northumberland, , Page question of the award between G, Should delay these necessary measures. ehtihmBL293,00":"ftpptlusl'Tlle hon. RESIGNING HIS SEAT man iinncet1d"'rglt, sure illaat every gentle. 311212111330 of the highest importance to (gf, lumen tcht10WS' tlytt indigent Miners" . . . . . mm oi . . - . r rotmerit th . tingling? communication was, he said, in- presswn of regret that that thlzs'ggllllbheiil did not fl2lff $6 isi,f,',fietncta1,tvrc?,r.cef/t' MR CAMERON chitin "l I . . r not been fintuly settled and the . had the power to decide ll ion ' ens . . .. - A . uf" - n Somr . M, BI hKE---Th m i t owmg to I the legality et, it thejudge ordered It " w B F will not be l en, I presume that it e Course taken by the Quebec Legisla. 0} the award. While this House was sit- the man who received an "as 't'; ll . JA/s/fi/LI? upon. tpre it should still remain an open (luvs- ting last. year the protests of the Quebec day Should not ask for, ~aymggt .lolhy'" . don't be i; . MACDONALD - Oh, it? It was. to be hoped that the steps QOVernmcnt and Legislature made the pub Way. The hon gentlemalii )had U,ll that V" my" armed. We are not in a fate? to retaude the award would prove lie fully awiire of their intention say that the Goverment had 1",'rriti"t'lfinitt: . ., timbre. hWith regard to the tsubject of the Oppose the award of plciges and claimed that this House must PETITIO' B, page so lee he considered that the legis- arbitrators. The Attorney General him. exercise a control over the expenditure or The following De'ition w b . , last gwhlch had come into force since the tS, at the Opziilng of lest Session, said the couutry's money, but as a stickler for gd:-- - . ts c're present- success: $08 O'fvthat Home had been most that te' (2.191100 people could not ttPeet con,titutional practice he would be aware Aitv ( . A l1 . hile still capable of im- e award without an appeal to the Privy that by our constitution every transamior Harris id'yi,1tti,1doyld,. From Wm. H. movement, he considered have; speakin 9yncil:. Why then should they now relsrting to tiwtaxpendiutre of mone is noi - 'drvrlcllr, End's of, the First Colored tii Opinion of those connected with gr. bring this phase of the award up as a to originate with the Governmegt and' llrat'iogtig' 'didrsst Church, of Toronto, 'it (ill when hesaid that it had beenaboon reason for delaying the disposal of the thatit is not within the power of thet for othe p wars to appoat trustees and a connected with it. The Standard surplus? They knew when they promised House to disposo of it unless an rccom- ' Mr 'fd/ll',,??),',?.'...?:, of ftie,g/e,d, been raised, and the gen- asChemo for its disposal all that they new mended, but yet he wished the House to bar and ot e ar.---Prorn Archibald Mch- are education of the country had alao w" know. They did not tell the electors tr deal with that subject. The constitution oi vomit: " Tillers-M Kent, 10r an Actto incor- Vance . NO." Te?" question the neces- l the bustings that thetse matters Were um tne country said that the res unsihilii dilute bt e Wilberforce Eductstiormi In 1t,.q2hrt,,td2sr hi,",, allow liaising 'iiiiii,iifeh) to Tbe dealt with at this Session rested With the 'o"C,inifint inp advising; . , ebe eve t at the Go .. e on. reasurer said " a b ': Elsa Excell- I' . b 'i Mr. P - T . . anqiiet in. tn y new the ex ,nditure of L'mhumdrtzeo. 'top County Council if"??? made arrangements for secur- if)?" that the mulllml'al Loan Fund Would? themoney l but the Governmgnt felt thatI " , ir.,' _ or certain amendments ii; . 33 Ill mg for that purpose. On the I' dealt with atthis session. The Gove . while this arbitration was un til d d "e1)c1t1.21,v.: _ immigration question he believed the Gov- ment did not at tt1esoaunerament C') that the extent of the debt as yet not germihgd ~thers for ee.--From Geo. Leggatt and grillment would do all in its power to debate propose ttrdeal with the question it would he unwise for them to deal with . "We. in" an Act for construction of a {Diacross the 3338 a class of settlers no matter what their intentions might bl monies which were only' in their hands in _ Mr. magnum Sandwich to Windsor tfelt,' for this countzy. On the drainage now. Be did not see why the delay of m; the trustees of the people. His hon friend _ ' bon, for m ain.tCounty Council Peter; gum on the action of e Government had settlement of this award question should knew the popular objection to direct tars termini) -le repeal of. the het legalizin Teen wise and would J,',r%' advantageous prevent the. carrying out of all the tion and knew also that if the award was Grand fl th.'" Granting bonuses to thg he thingto beside y regarded was to schemes which had been pro sed i thrown over it was quite possible that Mr. get"titi0/aavilry,c, 0 takgcare to employ such checklists should relation to the Municipal)0 Ll',', urureanew award they might haw-a _' it titlwa C , t rey).--From North 0 ren tsrit.iRpotstlblit for any imposition to' Fund. The only object which the much larger share of the debt of the coun . 111'f,"syin1ii?c,,Y, Act, to ttmtslmunate it? Magnetiscdou the Government or its oth- hon. gentlemen opposite had in View "Y thrown upon them. It must not he ", the North G and .Yuskoka Run," _ CI On the questions connected with Seemed to be to roll up alarge surplus for forgotten that it was in unrest extent to , Mr W . rey Railway. y and the courts and the payment of witnesses t1geat elections, and for Quebec to b 'be Oppo-ition of the non member for l and 1r,2veirlsl.it'tert'eet.titi):--yyitypt H l he acquiesced with the views expressed by, in cab, 'ol an adverse decision. Stage: South Bruce they were indebted for the. Fifi; raiiwzr a Charter to Construlgea his hori. friend, and Lrconsidereit that the Egallfmen opposite were too weak iii difficulties that had arisen ; the opponents l sfl1"l/i'1'l,Ri'inoras,a, 'ifgt'fetl,t,rtih1?e1, pe, ' 138"" by the, mugging: due, wanting in D01itica] (if the settlement having been en . ' Lhe contnruction or" W0 foran Act for wei h r11pen wou .have duel m did b b Primate a proper scheme couraged by the Views exprcmcd by that - Lndsay and Bobca the Bowmanvill E t. The tinancul.tpeti.on he was hi not elieie eHouse would stand hon. gentleman. Now. the Government Mr. W 1heellft2"a2,tiyii, o, ponndent would meet with that attention t , lilqstponement. It would be carried had violated no pledges that they way Co., for Act to a emelon Falls Rail. hram the House which it deserved. The gun. thwh "351mg One ot the charges had mode. When the Government asked Act. mend their Chart 1191!. gentleman concluded by exgressmg IC t t Opposition were prepared to the represenirttves of the people on the _ Mr. Gosrr-Uptutty Co . er M Nrpromd, ttt the action of the overn- Brave 'li1ltll the Illinistry, was that they flour of that House to appropri its a million _ " _ for reconsideration of 'lef11,tpin t Pty; m setting "Part a day of public tr exc Gd their limited powersiu re. andahalf for rails ay purposes. and when . . iall North Riding for re Ct setting 9.83;): thanksglving. WHO the disposal of the public funds the Lon member for South Bruce proposed uiill 'uore1r, - _ DresenmtiOn per" Mr. BLAKE congratulated, the hon. . 0 vo'liht,tfr,'giogee1, had brought that the whole of the surplus mono in the - .ial "-.t_' . . _' _ . __t. p . gentlemen who had Just spoken on the , great sine upon the country by his Treasurer's hands shouldbedisposed of at ,_tca"till, Iartsisktlltltft'iitaititigtt-iciit . ~... .. PPtyt,iy, Ewell the, had "carried out a as",iff:;-..;.,,~:..,-.sv .r l _ i once by handing it over to the different f~ "tiialllgllll was; _ saa ,... .-.- ". N ' A'ua5', siC.s','iS'iiii iiiiiiiSiri M7513.iii-W133i? s,o/,,s1',,c'i,),.rcts.,1/ru: munieiimlitiea ofthe countrmhe Govern- 'tral" W " "7' Cr "dit; 7'3""? 'iiiLcd.'i' "s-tissues-ai"- ' " ' Co. i%haiaiara': , 'istssitfig"iii' a'ilttt M 'iar I

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