The following text may have been generated by Optical Character Recognition, with varying degrees of accuracy. Reader beware!

. "That this Home regretsthat the remain- ii; the Ministers should have advised His Ex- or cellency to continue them in omee, and no hum.bly prays that His Excellency will be sti graciously pleased to consider the represen- hi: _ ration contained in this address." ii; ATTY.-tlEN. MACDONALD said that 111 he knew the resolutions just placed in the 00 hands of the Spe tker had been fully cow. sidered by gentlemen opposite and elabor- atelygot up to meet the reply which they 1.h expected from His Excellency. They had HI correctly judged that the members of the Stl I Administration would feel bound to main- ITI tain their places until a full expression sl had been given to the voice of the country T', through all its representatives. The par- al _ liamentarv practice was that the Govern- at ment of the day should consider whether a: the exigencies of the condition in which N they were placed and the duty which they IT owed to the country, to their followers and it to themselves, should induce them to va- c cate their seats when there was a probabil- c ity that their doing so would not in any b degree he advancing the material g N interests of the country. Under (l uiitytl,,hTlllMi tll? aNTARIo. the present circumstances, he thought that a it would be treacherous and cruel on the S m....---------------- part of Ministers to resign at the present ( Second t'arliament-- First Session moment, even if they had no doubt that it a would be probable that tho voice of the r s-----------------" House would be unchanged. But With the r, Mommy, 15111 Dec. coirviction upon theiiilmiiidls that the ffi E in, t; Ir' . , - . ' no. sut of the approac mg elections won " if: ' I "Alibi. took the chair at O 2.') place a new view upon the strelngth of the E '. " t lk. , " House, he felt it to be his boun en duty to . 1'ETITioh'l5, rrmain until the constituencies now un- l i >x'.";i';ll pttitions were presented. represented should be allowed a voice in t i PUBLIC ACCOUNTS. the affairs of the country. Hon. gentle- 1 1TTr.-GL"N. MACDONALD present- Jlli11 ('/yf,.ei.,tt 99313;) 1eettieg, smile" I .,l the public accounts of the current year. .he elections ha een mug. t on at a N M". , - h " . f , time unfavorable to two-thirds of the l i ATTY;GEI\T MACDONALD presented wise have had a very different result. No l a hit ss-ige from His Excellency,Whieh was measure had ever passed Parliament I l real by the Speaker as follows .-- which embraced such stringent regu- I _ _ _ .. ,. , t, .i VTN- l" -tNpv,t ,,.-.' f, lations in respect to the distribution AV. Fr,irakcp :1 "I. been". 'i?f l) ..22 L ~Jan. . . i _'. 'I ,t'-. m] _ of money as that which would be found in r" I thank vou for your dutiful and loyal ' it? 1lilr.my'oprit,tirlg a million and a h?" l address, and for the assurances that thct spoke of 1is,urplly1. members or.Tolit.e V important subjects submitted to you will was the first iicL"iii?ef-l"'tt.r), f", it 2his i receive your best attention. such power had ever been given 8.1366919 _ Ce With reference to that portion of the ment before. IN by could not they have ': 1i:iSWCl' to the speech which expressed the [ made oi jection, to the votes for public in- 'v,riic,,svpprovaiby the Legislative Assembly stitutions---or in regard to drainage, for , of the large powers given to the Executive which 8c200,000 had been appropriated ? under the Act passed by the last Legisla-, Why, because several hon. members in lure appropriating a million and a half of their addresses alluded to this subject ad- do'ilrtrs'in aid of railways, and in which I versely, and their votes were sought. No l till informed that the House have, no co n- I improper use had been made of any funds hilt-nee in a Ministry which is attempting ever placed, in the hands of the Adminis- to earrv out in reference to the control of tration. No political capital had been at- that appropriation a usurpation fraught tempted to he made out of the disposal of with danp,1'r to political liberty and the railway aid any more than out of the constitutional Government, 1 have to drainage fund, which had almost entirely l observe that no action has been taken by been expended in constituencies inimical .my {trivia-t, in regard to the disposition of to the Government. It was gratiryims !:tliV titiition of the said fund exceptin tlt',- to himself and his colleagues to tind i I. Edith-Te with the power invested in them that the gentlemen opp?si..te,1oweve,r ready in: the Act referred to, and that I will give they might be to find fault, could only tZt-i-y constitutional consideration to any place their hands upon one act of the Gov. L'iil, that may be presented to me. ernment, and even in that one they had_not l .. , l , . , ., attempted to prove that any Ifeculation l crcigmctl). 'W. P. IIowLAND. jobbery or niawdrninistration had beer Mr. BLAKE said the address implying "practised by the Government. If hon. gen Trar,t of o)r,tidence in the House had been tlemen opposite were consistent in wir sent up to Ilia Excellency by a majority of they said, and if they should ever com, at. to t}. l'mter the advice of the remains over to the Treasury benches, they wquh of lt Government His Excellency has been have to introduce a scheme _oi,1,,tl1,t subiec pleased to reply that no action had been of railways, founded on Mr. Blake's rese taken with respect to the railway aid policy lutions ot last session, which would brim except so far as authorised by preceding about a most pernicious system of . log 1t'L-fiélntioi1. But that was not the question rolling. (Hear, hear.) He defied any hor implied in the vote which had been taken. member to show that any of the appropr it would be necessary for the House to take ations formerly made P favor of the Gran a still more decided step. He believed it Trunk, Northern Railway, or any nth! had been the wish of the House that the appropriation that had been .lllat Government should resign the position for was surrounded ' by restrictlo.1 which it had voted them imcom- upon the Government that the appropri: patent. Yet this gracious. message tion should be laid before Parhanrnt or took no notice of this decision. The its sanction obtained. lion. members t Opposition were, he claimed,defending the the other side of the House content: Constitution against the attacks made upon themselves With making personal chali}, it. He appealed to those gentlemen who of amost scandalous character. [he o had given their votes conditionally to de- member for Middlesex had seenlnlt V t-ide whether they would follow the Gov- charge him and the Government wit h 1a eminent still further. He called upon, iug Coerced an hon. niember'of tbs {it every man who valued the independence of to resign through the agency .ot , _ 'l" l that House not to strain or violate the con- Montreal, and one of the princ1pa a istitution. He believed that' the wish of chants of that city, and he challengflt the vast majority of that House was that author of that charge to sy?,ttiyei,'l,1 the Governmem should resign, and he deny it. He 'fitj'rjriiysG,eeirtlut.,,re d therefore trim-est the following motion:-- the hon. gentleman had had ad ttyds . - _ - .. .. , u..." .mt marked private deny! PETITIONS. Several petitions were presented. PUBLIC ACCOUNTS. ATTY.-GEN. MACDONALD present- ed the public accounts of the current year. MESSAGE FROM ms EXCELLENCY. "That an humble address be. iketrenteil tol His Excellency the Lieut.-Governor, rep??- senting that this House has received Hrs Exeellemey'is gracious re ly to the Address thiegouse edgpted on g'riday last. - " That this House was thug (k be, as it in fact was and is, com; V its Preseht state to deal with all I which might be brought before it i " That the discussion of the 1n replno m, 17---"--- - " That this House was iGiia by His Ex. cellency's Ministers to consider the gracious speech of His Excellency delired at the opening ot the Session and to proceed with the work of the Assembly, notwith- standing that some of the constituencies i werereptetrented. . "_.. v- tuu In Hiss Excellency"; 'L _ was thug declared to it, _cop1petent in all huetstions re it. A lu proposed - "Gr .WNr.i" "'5 ion of to the Government. It was gratifying hon. gentleman wrsucu LU Ullnsupunuu we in ac- to himself and his colleagues to tind log-rollipyi. The hon. gentleman seemed rthem that the gentlemenopp?srte, tfoweverready to complain of the course taken by the ill give they might be to tind fault, could only Opposition,but the Government had in- to any place their hands upon one act of the Gov- vital a vote, of no.coniidence, and that isrnrnent, and even in that one they had not having been given it was now time for , " attempted to prove that any pikulation, them to vacate the Treasury benches. not iobbery or maladministration had been The end of the Coalition was in keeping oplying practised by the Government. Ifhon. gem with its commencement, it was hard to ad been tlemen opposite were consistent in What bring into being, and it was hard to die. ority of they said, and if they should ever come It the hon. gentleman had remained true remains over to the Treasury benehets, they WON" to the principles of his early political career W3 been have to introduce tl scheme on the subject he would never have become the leader rd been of railways, founded on Mr. Blake's reno- of that Coalition. He (Mr. Currie) would l poriey lutions ot' hrgt tsession, which would bring characterize the Coalition as an organised 'eceding about a most pernicious, system of "log- hypocrisy bound together by corruption. 1nestion rolling. (Hear, 11earo He defied any lton.. (0rder.) lie did not envy the position of n taken. member to show that any of the approprl' those who held place without power, The a to take ations formerly made in favor of the Grand hon. gentleman might be the tir,st Minister Jievedit Trunk, Northern Railway ' or any other M the Crown, but the hon. member for that the appropriation that had been _madc South Bruce was the first minister of the ition for was surrounded by restrictions people. imeom- upon the Government that the approprra- Mr. CUMBERLAND said the Opposi- message tion should be laid before Parhammt and ti 0 n claimed to have thrown the Govern- r. The its sanction obtained. lion. members on ment into a minority,brttlys utterly denied Wing the the other side of the House contented it. The opppsition had, however, con- we upon themselves wittrmaking personal charges trived to catch the votes of hon. members men who of a most scandalous character. The iron. who were pledged to the railway aid ques- Jy to de- member for Middlesex had seen tit to tion. He apprehended that the Ministry the Got charge him and the Government gi1,12gi; was not responsible to the 11ouso for the ed upon, ing coerced an hon. member of the 1(ghee legislation of a previous Session, if tha' idence of to resign, through the agency .of fit 251mm er: was so it was putting the Ministry it" we con- Montreal» and use are !,',r,1?/i'/,,'y,d the postman. easement} "tnni'iif if: "That the Ministerial policy on a most im.. portant question has been condemned and reversed by a. decisive vote of this House, which has declared. its want of confident:?, in Ministers. one speech involved the question of We approval or consideration of the policy of Ministers, and they themselves in the course of. the debate challenged an eXpression of the feeling of the House towards them. " That ministers have been defeated in each of the four divisions which have taken Eliseo, and have never had control of the ouse. " That the Provincial Treasurer' Go, in consequence of the hostile attitude of the Holly, resigned his ofrle.e. IT.hat the continuancé in office of the re. maining Ministers is, under existing circum- stances, at variance with the splat of the constitution. "That the supplies voted by this House will lapse on the 3lst day of December in. stant, and this House would be wanting in its duty if it should not, before that time. (as was done under like eitct1tnstanees last year) make provision for the expenditure under Ministers possessing its confidence of the monies necessary to carry on the public service until the fimil estimates for the en- suing year can be voted. vas Sllg'ouuucu u, A_...r.-.N.r_----' pen ipon the overnment that the an no ria- Pur, ' . ion should be laid before l/lt/lt',',?,')')',']'); .ur. c.t; MBERLAND s:sid the 1)pposi- i ts sanction obtained. hon. members on tron claimed t? MW thrown the Govern- f be other side of the House contented ment into aminority,but he utterly denied i themselves wittrmaking personal charges it: The Opposition had, however, con- 1 of a most scandalous character. The hon. trived to catch the votes of iron. members 1 member for Middlesex had seen tit to who were pledged to the railway aid ques- . charge him and the Government with hav- tion. He apprehended that the Ministry 1 ing coerced an hon. member of the House Wags not responsible to the HQUSO for the 1 to resign, through the agency of a bank in legislation of a previous Session, if that 1 Montreal, and one of the principal mer- was. SO it was putting the Ministry in a 1 chants of that city, and be challenged the position whieh he hhhech was never in. 1 author of that charge to substantiate or1tended by the Cons'ittltion. To call the 1 deny it. He 'atani"ry.entrt1), knew that voto which had Peer} when a vote of no. ', the hon. gentleman had had addressed to conM.enco IP', In 1113 op1mon, tl misreprc- 1 him letters not marked private denying sentation; it was merely an attempt l this charge, and it was his duty to use in to P368 censure 011 past legislation: his place and repudiate any connection Then the hon. gentlema road charged with the charge as he ('it"ii7nerorryr,t1,) the gentlemen on the 1))qi'itit"y1 benches repudiated the idea that directly. or in- with being held together by corruption l if directly the retirement of the hon. mom that were so let them bring forward their her for West Northumbeiland be tspecilie charges, he would challenge them been brought about by himsel P. the proof. These charges tiaeutly and. or any member of the Government. Ash flippanily made, had also been brought knew the hon. member tor Middlesex ha forward by other hon. members opposite, but when asked for proof they had failed . . F . " t to do so. He challenged the hon. member . -" . ' . _ _ , -, . . _ for Welland to substantiate any one of the . J ..'. . . . a _" T 'i charges he had brought agtinst the Gov- _ .' .. " ' s" 1 " _, emment. _-. " u mannnNALD considered letteréwi; letters in his possession the contents of which he should place before the House un- less he wished to remain silent and asperse the character of men as respected as he was, it was due to the country and the House that he should read. Mr. MACKENZIE said he was not in a position to bring the matter up to-day. ATTY.-GEN. MACDONALD said that the hon. gentleman had received letters from Messrs. King and Stephen, and it was only right that he should give them 8 bar. ofit of their denial. (Cheers) Mr. MACKENZIE said that the Hon. Attorne General had come to him and he had toldy him that he had those letters in his possession, which he would bring before the House at the earliest possible moment. ATTY.-GEN. MACDONALD reiterated his statement and demand. Mr. MAcKEtiziiiL.'riii, ihon. member has no authority for the statement he is making. (Applause) Am'lv "PM mlAnnlvu'ATn "XgTC- A'Iyi'YAAiN. MuooNALD--"whor, Mr. Speaker, I have copies of the letters"-- (ptodulipg Item, Irpidst loud ch eerg.) - 1hr. WOOD---" The matter should never hayp been Igggged tp, in the tirst placq" Mr. SPEAKER said the Attorhey-Gew oral had the floor. ATTY.-GEN.MACDONAL') then pro- j ceeded to speak of the usual custom of v the House to adjourn prevxous to the 11 Christmas holidays, and as the time was in now only a few ays oil, and the relative p strength of the two sides about the same, 1 C his hon. friend the Treasurer being stitii t hale and hearty and prepared to carry out t the promise he solemnly made as to the t course he should take. t' Mr. BLi)Fu--On this resolution ? . ATTY.-GEN. MACDONALD said, on the general policy, and he believed the one l included the other. He then went on to I say that it was not proper that hon. gentle- , men should proceed any further, but i, should rest satisfied with tht supposed " victory which they had obtained, 1 and that there should be an i adjournment till such a time in January l aswould allow the elections to be over. ' When the House then met the hon. gentle- , man opposite would have an opportunity of l testing the strength of the House, and dis. _ covering whether or not they possessed the _ control thereof. It the result of that test be as they expected, no man would more gladly resign his place than he. would. (Hear, hear.) Between the present time and the titne of the proposed meeting, he said that it was not the intention of the Government to take any step involving any amount of money excepting for Cur- , rent expenses, nor to make any appoint" meats. He suggested that it would greatly facilitate the proceedings of the House wa- der whatever Government might be in power it petitions should be received for the next session as for this. If the Go- uernment resigned now and the gentleman opposite took the Treasury Benches, the return of the absent members would pro- bably put a new phase on the appearance , of the House, and necessitate another ap- ) peal to thecountry. He therefore called ' on hon. members to support the motion he , was about to make, and moved "That all t the words after that in the said motion be . cxpunged and the following substituted: 1 Thatwhen this House adjourns to-day it 1 do stand adjourned till 'I'uestlay, the oth t January next." (Cheers) , Hon. Mr. CURRIE said he pitied the po- s sition of the Government. Ills hon. friend p 912931093 to the late election had been sup- 'e had come Lits-u'lfstA2t tlyat £58133 iili/ 1- it, notwithstanding the "ifr"a.mTtiiYitgsv2f t yr der which the elections had been sprung f? upon the country. Referring to the im- in portancc which had been atta.:hed by the I- Government to the absence, of certain re. lo prescntativcs, he said there was is a. time when the Government 18- had disregarded the non-repre- .. lawman of a much tamer section of the '"""'"C" - . a time when the Government' had disregarded the non-repre- sentation of a much larger section of the country. The hon. Atiy-'dencral had ex- pressed. afear that the system of lost-roll- ing might be introduced into the House, but he (Mr. Come) thought the hon. gentleman wished to monopolize the log,urollit)gi. The hon. gentleman seemed to complain of the course taken by the Opposition,but the Government had in- vitcda vote, of no-confidence, and that having? been elven it was now time for those which -had ara hon. member the 'sgl5ets,111'g.1oJ1.si"iii e hon. entleman appeared to h P ,' hat 'ra' T i ,1 an. Grand ,,'" ' run on the brain. What 'it? In th . were the facts M ese cases whieh had been b , tl ward? He had proved th roxgllt for. member for Kingston had at tthe mm f from the pled reg h h re r0graded ', . is e ad made to his _ ' stituents. That hon. gentleman k b con- is no member could have been retur new that Kingston. to this House who wa nod from . 5 not r . pared to give the Government a , . p e l I honest support. It the facts as std". and him (Mr. Macdonala) Were true sited to pledges which were taken, nothing 113.01 the curred to justify the hon. memheif in. _ Kingston m the course which he hog adopted. The Kingston Daily Neun hid contained two letters, one of which Was a signed by his (Mr. Itobinson's) brother cer- tifying that the statements of the 'fi;; member for Kingston with regard to the Grand Trunk were incorrect, 5nd iv. mg them an unqualified contradiction. The ! other letter was signed by a Mr. Davidson a strongr supporter of the hon. member il ' gentlemen who had indeed been a candi. date for the representation of Kiaeston but had withdrawn in favor of the present, ': member on a certain understanding. The hon. member consulted that gentleman with regard to his address, and they drew _ it up jointly, The hon. member then prc- , mised Mr. Davidson to support the railway policy of the Government, to support the ',, Government in passing the address and I that he would not vote /drr.eUtr'iiic"ilci in the Government. The hop. member thus obtained the support of Mr. Davidson, and doubtless of many other Conservatives and Reformers approving of the Government policy. In view of the facts, it appeared: that the hon. member for Kingston had", misapprehendcd the pledges which he took at the time of his election. It the hon. {gentleman had come here and fulfilled those pledges, and had then found that the Government introduced measures which he could not support, he would then hare been fully justified in opposing them ; but he (Mr. Macdonald) thought the hon. gen- tleman was wrong, and unjustiGPle in the course he had taken. It seemed to him that the proposal ot the Attorney-Genera) would commend itself to the approval or. every honest thinker. lie thought that on i a grave question like this the 170,000 un- l, represented should have a voice; that they should do them justice by agreeing to this adjournment, which would not in any way I be injurious to the country. If I the vote of non - contidcnce had . ', been carried by a majority exceeding . l the number of the vacant seats, it would r have clearly been the duty of the Gov.. . ernmcnt to resign, but that was not the t case. Had one hon. gentleman carried out ll his pledges the majority of one against the . Government would not have been obtain- 1 ed. He thought that the time of the 3 House was too valuable to be wasted over ,. the constant bespattering of praise upon 3 the hon. member for South Bruce by hon. l' gentlemen opposite, which sounded rather 1 suspicious in view of the fact that they e seemed to expect that hon. gentleman l would before long be the head of the Gov- e ernment. ler. SEXTON said the bottom ot the Combination had fallen out. It had been said that the -. majority on the Opposition side of the House had been gained by a gross misrepresppta- tion, but he was disposed to take a differ- ent view. The Government would not, he thought, tind themselves in any better posi- In a; T,U"di.t)'s,.t l tions. ',', 'itiiiiitttliltitt-tii, ICIxrvo-l to tho Charg(s ""14 agams im by the hon. membe for 110803. u- a . . r thgpleggeg ,iii1gtRltMe/; le had glven Dr. CLARKE said that the [New I taken by the Government with respect to".' the unrepresented constituencies failed to I satisfy his intelligence. m had listened with much regret to the statements made by the hon. Atty.-General in the previous debate. The position taken by that hon. gentleman was, he considered, one which had been developed by the course he had l adopted during the last four years. Dr. l Clarke proceeded to quote Byron in aman- ( ner which excited some amusement in the House, and was greeted with the cry of 3 " encore." Continuing his remarks he 2 claimed that the Government had now l been four times defeated, and that there were but two courses hetero it-either to dissolve the'IIouse or to resign. The voice of public opinion had condemned the Coalition Government. He maintained that it was the duty of the House to control the_publ_ic eigenditure in every detail. Hon. Mr. RiCHARDS said the Govern- ment had, during the last four years, intro- duced numerous measures of a most use- tul character, and he thought that fact en- titled them to a certain degree of consider- i ationa Conservatives had been accused of l resorting to corrupt practices, but thev had I tassisted in carrying a bill which he'd en.) abled the strictest enquiry to be made into controverted elections. The Government had established a more' economical system for. the administration of justice by abol- ishing certain courts and transferring their busmess to the assizes. That alone had 1 taken oft agreat burden from the people. ' The public buildings which had been erected under the control of the Govern- ment had been avowedly a good return for' the money laid out on them. Great reduc- [ tion had been effected in the 'iiiiirtristra-i' tion of the Crown Lands De- partment, over which he had presided for three and a half years. Considerable economies had in fact been introduced into every depart ment of the Executive. At the close of the preceding: Session the: Government bad I found itself with a surplus of three mil-' _ lions and a quarter, and the disposal of I which sum was a subject of some embar- , rassment to them. The Government felt ti they could not make any disposition of that surplus without taking into oonsiderafiory i the position of the itiinieipal Loan Fund Debt. Bat at the time the award between a the Provinces was made, the Government " felt that they could proceed, to appIiopri1tf a portion, of this money. It the Govern d ment had not taken up some settled policy re on this question they "would have laid l) themselves open to the censure ot the m..- flavornment assumed that themselves open to um um..." - house. The Government assumed that the award was a tinala award, and on that nonnd they had Emeded. They could bottom ot the It had been Ly on the the House