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==========G===c------'"-"--" E V r, - 1... . T..,. . , , tg,i,iiiSiir)5' Quebec, but he iflif It" ttl" ' " ii?:,': l _ -, ' e T ' ere as a representative of that in eres, 12933 iill),'i M lg -iibthtgtarh, bat simply in a professional espscity, He _..-..------------------" -. now distinctly stated that he was not the a-..---------------" -» professional adviser of any man in that TORONTO, bATURDAY. JAN. 20, '72.: trade. Another charge which had been o-...-------.---------------:----'--):.': made was that he had accepted fees for F W) supporting the passage of a particular bill. - FmnAv, Jan. IO, Ir', t ' Hon. Mr. CAMERON denied that he had The. SPEAKER took the chair at 3:15. made an allusion to that matter, hutit was NEW MEMBERS. so stated by an hon. member . Mr. McCuaig and Mr. Bethune having' been sworn in were introduced and took their souls. PETITIONS. The following were presented '.-- By Hon. Mr. SUOTT--petition of the City Council of Ottawa, praying for the passage of an Act to enable them to raise money, By Mr. RYKERT- Petition of Thos, T. Nellis, of Ottawa, and others, praying! for the passing of an Act to enable them to sell certain lands. By Mr. W1LLIa3IS--Petition of the Hamilton Horticultural Society, praying aid. By Mr. MCLEOD-petition (f the Township Council of Manvcrs, praying for the passing of an Act to incorporate the Bowmanville, Lindsay and Hubcap ge9n 1ttii1sy.tye, - _ - - By Mr. PERRY---9etition of Alex. Me- Cleneghan and others, of Woodstock, praying for the passing of an Act to au. thorize them to purchase and hold real estate tpr we pyipyetet Lemmrance; By Mr. Mc0ALLUM--Pet'ition of David E. Winslow and others, of Caubornugh, praying that Commissioners may be ap- pvimeaiio 1pplr1tLt1r'iN1s sway- By Mr. MONTE1TIr-Petiiion of the Township Council of Logan, praying for the passing of an Act to enable them to page tttgr-IIE {913931.13 got-gain by-laws. BylWr.ti0NT'ljT1'Ir--Petition of Geo. Ney and others, of Ellice, praying for the passing of an Act to invest certain pro- perty in them, as the trustees of the First Evangelical Lutheran. St. John's Congre- gation, of Ellice. By Mr. FAUtBMPxN---Petition of Entry Ludgate and others, of Peterboro, praying for certain amegthentg lo, the game la w. - Hon. Mr. BLAKE presented the ..repyt of the Committee appointed to Sirllie the Standing Committees, wLiclt was.adopted by the House after a short discussion. PRIVATE BILLS. On motion of Mr. PRINCE, secondtd by Mr. Macdonald (..Letyls),.leave was given to introduce a Bill for the incorporation ot the Canada Southtrn Railway. . . On motion of Mr. MCLEUl) permissmn was given to introduce a Bill for incor- poration of tle. liowmanvllle, Lindsay and "ttlfi'a'r"d'cl'-ri' EXPLANATION. Hon. Mr. SCOTT was sorry to that that. the hon. member for Cornwall was not present, however he was pit pared to make the statement which he had promised. Those charges which he was about to an- swer had been brought against him behind his luck; it Was an humanly act to do so, it was contrary to all parliamentary pr 2e- tice. It was dishonorable to speak of a, man behind his back or to thus attempt to l defame the character of a man. Those} charges had fallen harmless before the House and the country. He (Mr. Scott) had a name and a reputation in the coun- try before the hon. gentleman who made. these charges had entered the House; and had been elected over and over again bv acclamation by the city which he had the honor to represent; and the fact that he now occupied that seat was the best answer to those charges. And those other con- , stituencies which had been appealed to had ,also given an emphatic answer to those} 1 charges. But occupying as he did a posi- I tion of trust in the Administration of 2 Ontario it was due to the people that hel should answer the charges which had been made; and in doing so, in consequence of _ the absence of the leader of the late Gov- ernment, he should not be able to enter (into all the matters so fully as be other. wise should do. The first charge made against him on the occasion of moving for ttteissue of a new mit for the Ottawa election was that he (Mr. Scott) was not a Safe person to be entrusted with the de- partment which he had been placed in charge of on account of his connection with the lumber interests; and that state- ment had been repeated by the hon. mem- ber for East Toronto. He (Scott) said emphatically and distinctly that the charge implied in that statement was not true. m had had occasion to speak fully on the subject of the lumber trade, and his views on that subject had been enunciated in the interests of the people of Ontario. He thoroughly knew the value of that great interest td" the country; and on some future occasion w.ould take an opportunity of laying his news on that subject before' the Hon so. But that was not the subject now under discus- sion. m had been called a paid advocate of that interest, but he said distinctly that he was not. During the last twenty years that he had been proftte1tyully engaged at Ottawa the average business of his flrm with those connected with that interest had not exceeded $50 per annum. In 1858 he had acted for a lumber firm, and in 180 also in connection with the English Coloniza- tiou Company; with those" exceptions he. had not been employed in any case of im- portanoe by that trade. When Confeder- vrlrt'NHiiiiiiuiiii'GkatthdiltlLAlS2g.ti1tutied a By Mr. FAIRBAIRN - Petition of Henry Collins and others, of Peterboro, praying for the repeal of so much of sec. 2 of cap. 48, M Tie, as tifl'ccts a by-law of this, county 3! .Peierlgqrn. - "by iirjA1itBaIItN--Petition of Mr. Boyd and others, of Bobcaygeon, praying for an Act of Jp1eprpyptipp. A - A - By Mr. cLFniItNS-Petition of the County Council of Waterloo, praying for certain amenfrn_e.ptt_tp_tlte, mppicipal law. By Mr. BorLTErt--Petition -of the Royal College of Dental Surgeons of On. torio, praying for certain anuudmems to the Dentistr1rActo, - - By Mr. DEACOZY~PetiUon of the Kingston & Pembroke Railway Company, praying for the passing of an Act to legal- ize certain by-laws. COMMITTEES. Hon. Mr. SCOTT stated distinctly that l, q1 he had never received one farthing in the Ill whole course of his political life for any la such purpose. On the contrary, the private W bills which he had introduced into that tr House had been asource of expense to him. Ill He would challenge the most minute en- ft qutry into his conduct in that respect gl These statements had been circulated e1 through the country by the press. He felt tl that the press ought to have the great' st SI possible license and liberty of speech, n and the power of keenly criticising the C, acts of public men; and he trusted lo that the press would circulate the reply Il aswidely as the charge had been. The n result of hisjoining the Administration had t been to bring to it a? certain amount of T support, he said it without vanity; and that I I was why the press had called in question I l the propriety of that step. He would l show, however, that he was perfectly jus- l 1 tiiied in taking that course. With reference l to the charge as to his connection with the l 7 Canada Central he would read the exact 1 words which had been made use of by the Premier of the late Government. (Mr, Scott proceeded to read the passages in question, and after some consultation with uis colleagues, proceeded). Hon. gentle- men would Lear with him while he gave briefly the history of the Canada Central. In 1854 the then Government desiring to encourage railway enterprise, appropritited some four millions of acres of the Crown lands for a railway trom Quebec to Lake Huron. However, nothing Was done for six years. In 1800 a bill was introduced, and in the following year passed, through Parliament without any Opposition from l Hon. Mr. Macdonald, a bill providing for the division of these lands among the sep- l arate railway companies-r-the N or iii Shore. [ I the Ottawa Valley, the Ottawa and Arn- ', prior, and the Ottawa Central. Under that . '5 subdivision those companies were entitled _g to their share after 20 miles of railway l was completed. But notwithstapdiyertLcl I aid which those companies received, they . I toned it impossible, in consequence :; of the depreciated state of Cana- 1 dian securities, to make any progress 3 I He then procceeded to give a l1istrscy of the r Canada Central railway, in which he denied, . having any personal iriterest,bat that the . route taken in its construction was perfect . ly in consistence with economical adminis- J tration. He would emphatically deny being one of a band of speculators in any e such scheme. He then made a lengthy at- l tack upon thelate Government,and especi- ' ally upon the late Premier. There was not a constituency in Canada that could confirm the acts of the late Attorney Gene. ' ral. He then proceeded to vindicate a t charge which he said had been made f,' against him in accepting the Speakersh p d of the House at the beginning of this ses- sion. There had been at the close of the last session last year an cnderstandir g that d he was to be the Speaker for this session. n lie-had not heard anything more on the " subject Since that time until about three weeks before the House met when he was n ' in Toronto, and the AtIorney-qoncra,.1 had _ ltold him that he Was the chemo of the " I people of Ontario as the Speaker for the . v_-L , ~u~ ..., 1nLKl-'1lLUf- i wards warned the late Atty.iot,,era't that he had better be careful, Cry as yet 'he was perfectly free. He had thenin- i formed the hon. member from London that he had not accepted the position of _ Speaker, and that he would not. take the i chair. lie was attcrwards obliged to take i the chair' for fear of th e late Attorney- l General. He then read a telegrmn which: ' had been addressed by the lion; John Car-i ling to the late Ilon] Allyn-General,dated Dec. 4th, which was an enquiry as to whether lie(Mr. Scott) had accepted the f3pe!tkerehip,' and also another on the 5th having the same purport. The. position had either been oflered to him as a trip. or the Government had agreed to it. He would then answer the question bb Had he been guilty of any impropriety in accept- ing a position in the present Government." He did not believe in self-conversion, and he did not believe any other gentleman in the House did so either. He did not owe the late Government anything, but they owed him much. He had taken a certain course, which he believed to bea right one. He could not agree in voting with I the late Premier. He had been a politician 'without a policy. He had never favored Confederation in any sense, and when it was effected it was done so with a grudging vote from the late Government. He was sorry that it had ever been said that any Government had to be supported by bribery and corrup- tion. He Jud said On his late return to Ot. ( tawa that he would rather rem in out of; . political life than give his support to 'iiiil l late Government. l'p to the Saturday oil ] the second week at the last meeting ot the 1 House he had expressed no opinion f upon the course that the late Government 6 was taking. He had then expressed his t 4isapprobation of the conduct ot the late v Prefnier in not resigning his late posi- S tton. He stated emphatically that a noml- ii' me of the ex-Premier had no chance ot it election in 1811. Then why was this it charge tobe brought against him. When R his hon. friend was called on to form an at Administration he quite unexpectedly; a! came to him (Mr. Scott) and ask- w ed him to take part in that to Admistration. m took time for constler- de ation, and utter discussng tho 1t1tet m likely to arise in the House he found t at fr, on those subjects his new 1'fliriil in accordance With the hon. gens? re: man's The policy proposed wag It th: cussed between them; H. regards theme. re:. pendence of the 1tPieiei!.e,en, on r8123 House, his views were will?!) tIll, agape wt ment with those of the hon. Crep f",';,,' try hon. Premier had not sought 1n any W t hat M Scott's) Views W1 th 01131186 his ( rr. ards the D e reghrj1 t9tl.rposithy.1.. \_}tow - 1 _ ' . t ' ' ' it 1 (If! 1'hr0hi'uuiet'it%t,ull/it,tly,n,t, .1,1siviT1l,1ci,tdi,'thiyg offer of the 'cipeplce_rship, but he had after- nvn'n'n \Iv.\'-".3.l A] - i . . ., r ll'Um out; v'.r-~-" - might call it a. Coalition, but he, could ap-i, peal to the example of Mr. Gln_d5tone, Mr, '; Cardwell and other members ot the British Government. Were those gentlemen ever" l charged with inconsistency. (Hear, hear, l, from the Opposition.) There was no one" r question between him and the hon. Pre- ' mier; he gave the hon. Premier a true and loyal support; he had not taken that step without due consideration, and would be , true to that course to the end. If he had not entered the Goyemrnent he very much mm." "um um uwae ot July 22. That, he continued, was the cry with which hon. gentlemen went to the coun- try at the last election. and yet they had now done the my thing which they then denounced as an irmiitooriets All-i-i-ii/ttei'-"-'), mlqaion Govérnment. 118(pc0u. mum that he could enter .the Administration without sserifieing a single opinion. Could it then be called a Coalition. (Rear, liear, from the Opposition.) Hon. gentleman' might call it a. Coalition, but he could 'dl)- ""1 m um pramnle of Mr. Gladstone, Mr. il' Hon. Mr. CAMERON said that .he had or been represented as attaching no import- In ance to the presence of the hon. member " for Cornwall, but so tar from that he t attached great importance to it. It had " been said that that hon. gentleman now id had no followers. but the country would in remember his thirty years' services. lie ,3 (Mr. Cameron) regretted the absence of the ' hon. the late Commissioner of Crown ',Y, Lands, who was more acquainted with the it details of that department. The hon. gen- h tlemcn (Mr. Scott) had declined to state n whether he was a Conservative; there d could be but one motive for that; but he l n was surprised to find that a member of! o that party could be ashamed to deny his, " colours. The hon. Treasurer had describ- i ed him as a Reformer, who had returned t to his first love. (Laughter) He Wr.; I- Cameron) wanted to know what constitnt- l . ed a Pure Party Government; was it a f. Government formed by Conservative and a Reformer uniting to carry out certain t: orinci les, on which they were agreed? , ft so the late Government was a Pure i' l'tr/r,f?o_ver/trntny. Bat hon. gentlemen t ',P?fertt.W1ttndyi, that that could not be , done Without_ violating princip'es in a ' manner obnoxmus to the constitution. He , was not going to attack the hon. Commis. . sioner for joining the Reformers; he had all along maintained that there was 110tlr ) pg hurtful.to the interests of the country in a union of Conservatives and _ Reformers. That principle had been '1 attacked on the other side of the House. , and not only by hon. gentlemen there, but I throughotlt Ye country ; and he proposed ( to Ihtiw..aat by reading extracts from the I declarations of every one of those gentle £11811. hMr. Cameron then read an extract rem t e Clone of July 17, 1867. Hon. gen- tlemen would see that the late remier then refused to for . . p th it . m a Coalition on the ground . ryak it was not then r quired. He then . as? (l,tletl"itce,iy.iillii),n'tiii, qlblie one MUD cubblhu - w - v - feared that a sectional cry would have} gone forth. He believed that that Gov- ernment which represented. all classes wast the strongest. He claimed to be a repre- sentative man, and that there were hon. members who shared his views. He might expect to be made a target for the sneers ot hem. members opposite, but he cared. nothing for them. He had been elected not as a representative of the lumber in terests but in spite of them, but that ', would not prevent him from givin,g, tlmrl L regard to their interests.. He trusted that l l he should not be again called upon to repel l these charges. Mr. Scott then read Seve-' 'l'ttl letters he had received in reply to cir- eulars which had been addressed to the l license holders with respect to the charges , brought against mm of having been crr. ployed as the paid advocate of the lumber- ers. He had refrained from going into some matters which he might have touched upon, but he gave fair notice that if these charges were repeated he would give full explanations. A -- - . """'"'* -_.--1,:,-,',1 at.., C Hon. Mr. CAMERON said that when such dWerent explanations were given the House had a right to a complete expla- nation. Had the hon. Commissioner for Crown Lands undertaken to bring another Conservative into the Cabinet with him ? Hon. Mr. SCOTT-I did not. Hon. Mr. CAMERON would inquire if there was not a deputation of luniherinen for the purpose of making certain arrange- ments with respect to the lumbering; interests at which the hon. gentleman was pregent ? - CaAA.2 " DA - w I'"""" 'I""""""" Hon. Mr. SCOTT sald that be (endorsed 1n every particular the speech uf his hon. friend the Premier. 7 Hon. Mr. SCOTT said certainly he was present on that occasion with several other members of the House. That meeting was tut the purpose of conferring, With the late Government on the subject of their timber policy. He went to the atty.-Gencral and desired to obtain an interview for that deputation, but the hon. gentleman abso- lutely declined to do so. They then endeavoured to obtain an interview with the Commissioner ot Crown Lands but without success. Hon. Mr. SCOTT said no; they drsircd not to be in the position of being liable to have their licenses cancelled at, any mo- ment. With the exceptions of one meeting at Ottawa and another at Toronto, he had not been present at any meetings held in connection with the lumber interests. __ Hon. Mr. CAMERON asked had the lumbermen desired to have the land in fee simple? Hon. Mr, CAMERON would like to Know whether that meeting had a declared policy wills regard to the tlmber question ; and whether that policy was the policy advocated by the hgn. gentleman ? Hon. Mn. SCOTT was prepaml to so into that matter M the proper time. TIMI deputation had simply desired to lay before the Government their views with respurz to the removal of the timber license.