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al ma m" , but ' h, . the He f1 at the le .. _ an outrage 11 En l _ _ .. n 'ilGil o li r. decency T,h morality, weal): take but "a tiiié p ' 'cGatytt o mtituticnd course. Did he not my other dopmment of the!" tiwir it Up: the co that ll the Government had ll can were the grounds with rcrfm2 thin believe lit ot an outta 6 upon decency on himself to state the otler/,'/i'ifiit" high: been gu Y h ' t g lil tia k hi he conafclered Mr. i),iitsgyiiiJis' "pointed I ard. morality t emu"!!! g, W"; 'tlt "I: !v objectionable. If he bse' "may. ho '. up it he recorded a con 9mm 'o", o a?" {0 MW other position in the GM ",', trsld state But no each course was taken. d t was T (111d not have objectedv m he'bolievod very well to make accusations on to rope" frnther that he had and that Ae 1mm: thorn in the face of the most emphatic Mr. Scott was the Edd 1:11an 'di defender of deMals oi them. . . interest He has con 0)? iic,y.irred, teat Mr. CAMERON and the tlypele,11til thc 1331b!" intrest, and t,i'iriiir.rtoyarf,; made he made all]. He ohhrged the Wat. _ hen he came here with , 1; .,,f/m.1isrly "A missioncr wnh being the solicitor and agent bcr rr'?'., he w" We ft-'l. Y '9 t: aid them. of the lumber interest, and that he lobbied tsrriti,i'ly Tc:i'i'crt "14;,- fjri' having ea- 1 against the late Government. Ce (harried j,1t(:,,,,'",rh1',. .iritanets ot two I Mr. BLAKE said that Mr. Cameron had hymn" :0 a 4.1.1:):6 license, and A" c1varprd Mr. scout with being employed to ltr-cr-ey,.':,'-;.!')".,:')',';"':.),,,) tLough not mm? urve the lumbermen on the tioor of the (no cr 2 lo "'. b" .1 w": Scott had, 80318 Home. bermen, he was here feelingi causatially his duty and inter He chargod Mr. Scott W,' "named to secure the " governmmts to extend the one case he had unseeded, t the late Govertmeut Mr. I to Quetee ant: succeeded in mand "tirfistl, F e beEieved curable gentlamcr by! gene: that mm sent believing th.s ecuro thtusxte.ryu? sew fable gentlagvr bad game ww - -- 7 _ at believing that he would be enabled to me the exfcnsim oi the lumber license tor years. Shortly after rdmning from Quebec '"" .. L; Mme with a depuut on to the Ontsrlo Go' a, it was not T .3 again paid. l salt oi the two ' n thev stained t 11ttt Scott had" come ww to and mat the Gave oi the manner in wh at: of the lumbcrmex a their paid counsel. fhnt centlemaj: Inf renew-gs! So that thi§ stickler hr the law had, accardisg to his own show-I ing, violated the law. m hal nod renewed thelicwcs.s.s at the proper season and had told the lumbermen that it woul be a breach of the, law to renew than ; bu now his excmc was that the licenses war not renewed. Pic-Just: he was engaged in pre' paring new rtT,ultstions, and the lambe trade bad to wait upon him. Tue ob "nations ct the member for Niagara exemplified very forcibly the extent tn , which the system of damning t1" chancter of public men had reach . B, (Mr. Blake) had already stated that it we the bounden duty of 3mm who had med. 1 "cueatiot a, when they had turned oat to b [ untrue. to retract them. But; what had tin ( hon. gentleman done? 'In the Inca of 'tsi, lpcaithe denial of his hon. friend the? 'he had never been employed by thi l Ontario lumber interest. he had to-nizh repented, and then proceeded to re-l, rly to the remarks ot the mam'mr frr Niagara. He hoptcl thty would survive the lots ci the resycca ct" that hom gentle. mam. lint; gentieman had stated in the first place that, according to the law, the timber licenses could not be renewal, and afttrwards stated that Orders in Council were passed containing tpetnTttt conditions ot renewal So that this ttickler hr the 1,ttw had, according to hit, own thow; ine. violated the law. An Ind [and I Mr. CAM mm from U Mr. SCO'] Upper Cara . Mr. CA: that M hmacome with a 'mr"'" m. w -__,, and mat tho Government. lht ac- Corr." L the manner in which he argued the mam F. of the lumbermen, l e believe 1 that M] their paid counsel m understood thint at gentleman ind received e. large aid. money for his p1 oleasionel sumac: in lf seats ot the lumbermen. It he went he m and received a landmine fee tor his con. 5, and then accompanied the depu tation w a; Dntuio Cover: meet on the ante mu. " d was not unfair to suppou the he shoe air paid. The only irfttirtmott in the The of the kw: missions was that in Que- we: 3y gained their objee', while In Oats, mu 9;: did not. He asta.ndtsdthyt; if Mr. we Ti ...3 cc intended, and employed or. it ' ci the. lumbcrmen, it was highly iar tai r that he should have been placed in a ssh an to judge of those interests Another ttol e-L. which he referred to was the helmet Ci r-, _ ' mm. in order to magts1)y..hit he r inure-"(and ame hero WM!) m Mr. CAMERON aid the lumber Interest which Mr. Econ served in Lower Can an n as the same with the lumber interest which be served in Upper (lined; Mr. BLAKE J!rotteeitil to say that the numUr for biagan had rtsltarated his, charge, ard had uked the yerdict of 151w ll" dis, ttr.tt the country vprat it. m (lirr it)) .; nly wished ththon. gentleman had Itsi1 t l e an?! 80 " ("longs the verdict of th in the constitutional and danish: QP Re any winked that thpee gentlemen who haiku: ID has with thcir accuzation. and "rho '1tiltutti1 that the Dunnintmnxa. _. rrm at lr in mm: Cel, as new it was i325 VIM" --'" - the assistance of two 1 the license, and in aded, though not with Mr. Scott hail gone Zedin getting his de. :e3i;ved that the how A mne into the qyrtrh" in . Carlirg manned, nau t was the lntentian of to cancel the lies 253 ot at the limits up to pub. epm,_tttt had been so re" i the hon. genuoman. m1 shied that In 1367 G. that the Governmen cancel an the llcenses.' in tl- a presence of Mr. mm. and other: interested he believed mu. delngahion of In an- g it peculiarly and "Mac to aid them. It :g. Bo csnnen: aestion of princ'1 " r. instance ateeor Me It. no It the Que- Ont} if Mr. {ed .0 l his TiiG%Aur interget and that h 1 -r- menu ".9... ..- W, --" " .gaiue'e the lute Government. tt obiriod of Grey, tvig2t'T, they ediectcd. l .Ths l Mr. BLAKE said that Mr. Cam h member or out, rey u tomp.uu" :harged Mi. Scott. with being em;{:;ed:% ,ilt.iidti/i2'; k), hit accuse: lhnmhoff , th i , pone sonny. ween eac y 52::- e umbermen on the tioor of we ',l,igitl gang: that hag did 1t'lt se, of po itica is meaty. 0 ma a o emerge ,11,'.'.' f,eleil,1)i'c'e,'t upon the evidence id a letter signed. by seven in: p,LAKhT-Ho denied that. or eight 'ee,',', of tgt'fg,il Rotor?) Cam. m. CAMERON-I-le did not den th t. with? W o man'se a on. gent man's Mr 1lf AXE Be d'd moat diatin 'l,'] l'; 1 election in 1867, including the chairmen and " : , AC - l , r?, C ; "cetiarr. tearo'r-i m". A _ e. "' l . fowl; 933: $332" 01113;: 313;: tr, yr. "mums and he had nothing to do member for Ottawa. ' '1"i.11't KE d h h d l tf: ' lf u b , l. tti, . r. A 'sai t on ergo we: ttt en. l r 1 c, CA EEPON my] ly AM} I' 7n _ able that the hon. gentyrmR,?Pf, 1tyiii,1, Rtg Mr. M, CKCAMERON said he halns t his g, to do with What the member tor Cornwall in . T Mr. BLAKE said he would not go on It ha "we interras,ted in ttia mane}; .3ng qtl he weze interrupted in this manner. no: could not help remaking, hoWever, that it, 1 was mileage that the members for Cement] and East Toronto, who were unassisted so that a. time ago, should ever be separated. The member tor Cor-mull had said that he would not see the paid agent of the lumber- men placed in the Crown hands Depart. I that. without raising his voice agtsuu't w a- In- Quinn would repeat what he, it he (Mr. mane; won... "PM ___- tad said on a former occasion: that amen mr. _pAxlFAa;""r"* _.-__V, _, [ who was the paid agcyt of any interest Was Mr. BLAKE- And practically, too. The _ mt merely nnlit to hold otfioe under the ourgs w" iust a bugle'g aitlte charges Crowe, but to sit in the House at all. Now, made against the hon. member for be wr, Blake) went further than Mr. I Ottawa. m yogaeded to point out Richards. Tho latter said that he would; the digorggnizos 'ttate of the 0ppos1tit.on. not oomp1alrlit this paid agept ot the laav ' Was Mr. Cameron the leader of the member betmets had been p1aised " tha twail ot any for South Grey! was he the leader ot the other department except the Crown Lands, me mber for Cornwall! He feared the oppo. whilst he (Mr. Blake) said Lire.t it he were Ation w" duo ankusd. m did not ttslitwts the paid agent of any party he should not that those I',",)'))',',')'; who claimed to be Re. have a seat in the House at all,, Ttsts totme" could "found in the Opposition oharge, whioh hail been repety1 085m owl sield'urg faithful allegiance to the mm as . again, had not been established. 0n the leader who had stated that he always was ' contrary, by every means possible top a man Tory, was new, and would die . Tory. m to take to disprove the charge, it had been then read extract. from Tn; GLOBE, Tele. absolutely disproved and fallen to the. drain]: and Leader,reports of Mr. Maafoas1d's '. ground. It seemed to him (Mr. Blake) that remarkable speech at Broohlin, giving his the position Mr. Scott had taken with refer. statements with reference to hll hivlng t ence to the lumber question was one that brought over the Conservativestohls View, . had been to a large extent conceded. m and that the Conservative artynolongarex- ' remembered that Mr. Richards himself ac- isted. Mr. Blake proceeded to point o1t in r knowledged the great defects of the detail the principles upon which the Rciorm l present s; ate m. He (Mr. Blake) re. party carried the general election, and shoved " membered that he himself had several that upon those principles many of they n times asked the Government ii they would who were formerly tjciiservative' had sup not bring down a plum to remedy this state porttd him, because the Conservative pvt; 1 of things. At a public meeting he had hadlcen merged in the Coalition party, an: " stated these difficulties. and what, in a gen. coalition was odious in their eyes. "-1 'll, eral sense, was the nature of their remedy. maintained. that it was perfectly can i Mn Richards had frequently tstated that sistcnt mith old parliamentary .p": 4"", there had been anonormous lncreaseln the tlco and wlth tho theory and prats1ier t 9'9 revenue drawn from timber; but he had til. party government for "'- Pal'ty gorcrmnrn':t a)" ways studiously omitted to tell that during Performed in the mode lu which the prev: or the period when that enormous 1neretatt took G ovetooetyt; had been forum l 1n cont 3"." To places there '3 being developed a new ed thatthe absence of any cr.efityitiort of Cu nus; source of revenue, owing to the annual in. servativo principles on the part of the mm 2. .1 crease in the number of lanos' produced ber for East Toronto, and the fact thatl ..1 . by nawlrs_rec'tt..d mills. m thoiight that as and in 1867 that the Conservative party: regarded the Government there would be longer existed, was evidrmett tnshow tt . found no remissnegg in the matter ii the whatever the position of the Liberal pa" t ot Enha- revenues. He never understood th t may have been, the Conservative party w lu", L' r. "Wk d represented th 1 _ . a dcmoralizcd, destroyed and defunct,- that ' a umbcrmter . ' . ' , if; ester ifG0fld'2f amsradedhimseifto re r had ccmmitted political sulcule; that l my. lent any inte..astt; but he Aid r: Ql2i icshris had declared that there War} tl; l "35' _ly,por.tay constituency? M 1rrgt,r any reason for its existence; a' / l, e (Mr. Bake) denied that Mr' Scott ":"--- sizaaegore ro earthly Tvaunn w} I" walt the, nominee of tho iri'oiiciien' f habopnirlgn, tonuwm u.- we fr} he had been returned when these gong: s_m;alhy withhlsvicws, shouldnot joint. .5; 5 men lcd opposed him. Mr. Scott woizld wry he should not ask him to r. as; also have been returned or. the late Occasion that Go Verument. He maintained that re-' even if the gentlemen on the other side h l . honourable friend had given the only ans pm. oppotred him, but they knew that his l' r possible tor him to give, when i,re tlcn was perfectly imme wneble Mr Blar= had stated that what his explt tie. then referred to the afi.aiii, iii SouthL "do" ticns as leader of the Governu the (Mr. B. S. Macdonald). Tint antler: s andlis (Mr. Scott's) own utterances n the was at one time what minht beg called" lim that he Was. No man in the'Houa and flan-lag Grit. And at the £323.42," elactl .a out or is aytm' deny that the principles nail 180.7., when on the huntinga -i7i'ii' 0211114 tamed In his egplanatlons were not that s ot ex/sited that he had alumni: 'Cid 14:: BO ; ciples of the Liberal patty of Ontario, am the with an opponent. o OWS I box:1 knit nd tttll, that titih"lt "ite I . m . ' . ma t, am a ewas av. C a my. 2he; 3.uM.:)f,??)'H),,e? said that m The country was "tisfied with that. 50d W"? Sikh a prsition "let he took! 0 position took a deeo interest in sop, 'are st: i,"lt genteel-.1; At that time he: pdsition of Reforms". LThey were g >3" "no pp ".' r o t a memoer for Nia. ful for that interest, and they l plant-d to be able 'tuia"o,'ie the PI, LL-l A - D..IM..~. . Mr. BLAKE said that not Iorg ago Mr. B. B. Macdonald was cbligd to take a u'tt tilicate to tho Comervat'we cenvestioa; that' certificate was given by the member for Brockville (Mr. Fitzdmmons) and was to the effect that Mr. H. S. Maudouald Way' a good Conservative. (Laughter.) Mr. II. S. MACDONALD-No. Mr. BLARB-.Wi11 you say you brought no letter from Mr. Bitaaimmoitet Mr. H. S. MACDONALD aid he was a nominee of the Conservative convention. Scme Queens rolled obifctions to him, but the member for Brookvi edid write a letter, hating the fact that he (Mt.H. s. Mao. donuld) was a Conservative. Ur. BLgKB--And you got the nominag tion? Mr. fl, S. MACDONALD --rir, (L111 gho lav, ..%rr-"- -- 1. former occasion: that a man "h id agent of any interest was Mr. it to hold otfioe queg_the charges 'N" yraa In FrF9r"""""-'" - or) had taken the oath. Then had tried to get out of the Ming it on, sagas {as y,'iNl','.f -Rielleri"l'"'iir'TC'i'CU5" f'" - - said that he would been snow his loyalty to his Queen and country who would so en. deavour to govern the country as to make the people happy and contented. m was the most loyal man who w" _ most faithful to Queen and com try, and who was not always talking of his loyalty. Referring to the statement of the member for South Grey respectingwhat heha'l stated to the electors of that constituency, he said he had told the electors then that they were free to exercise their franchise without the least apprehension that the Liberal Govern. ment; would do any injustice to the1 county 3m ark: statoti Works lo tirat would say once m he did nut. come with any one am his 1 -- " " _q b enumerate "nu. "m..." -- brought over the Conservatives to his view, I and that the Generative srty no longar ex- m isted. Mr. Blake proceedcg to point bat in t detail the principles upon which the Rc'orm I party carried the gen eral election, and she ved t tint upon those principles many of these , who were formerly Conservatives had we] porttd him, because the Conservative pietyi had teen merged in the Coalition party, 3-1-3 1 coalition was odious in their eyes. He . n: aintained that it was perfectiy cen- l sisixtd with old parliamentary p '13. l tico and with tho theory and practice at party government for a party goriaauari: to i'e'icxmed in the mode in which the pram-mt Government had been fora: l 1n mutrri. ed that the absence of any cufiWion of Con. selvative principles on the part of the mam ber for East Toronto, and the fact that he dated in 1567 that the tjonservirdvepsrty no longer existed, was evidence to show brat whatever the peeiticn of the Liberal party i may have been, the Conservative party wts , a_."J-.,1r,rsA, destroved and defunct; that it party government for a part-y gt i'o'lcmzcd in the mode its which Government had been forms-d. ed that the absence of any defin sexvative principles on the part her for East., Tyr?n.to, "and the larger existed, was evidence to snow Up", whatever the pcahian of the Liberal pity may have been, the Conservative party w " dtiitora1izcd, destroyed and defunct; that it had ccmmitted political suicide; that is: leaders had dcclared that there was no Inger any reason for its existence; and "-- - I F Lt. m "3355959...{aysafir'zzzfiggm L'it 'au'."-'-'-'-"-""--'-"'"" - -e B m; sthr with his views, should.net join, My he should not ask him to P? this Guernment. He mintsmed that his honourable friend had given the only answer possible for him to give, when he had stated that what his explana- ticns as leader of the Government I and lie (Mr. Scott's) own utterances made _ lin: that he was. No man in the House or I out or is due deny that the principles can- I tained in his explanations were not the prin- ciples of the Liberal patty of Ontario, and his l hon flit nd stated that what those statements made, him that he was this day. (Cheers) The COT ntry was "ttshed with that. The orpotiiion took a deep interest in the , position of Reformers. They were grate. , ful for that interest, and they wer [ pleased to be able to in'orm the gen " tlcmen opposite that the Reform part Ewes. so strong as to be able to take, on. of itself; that.. it was a strong and unit [hay ; that tl cy were able now to carry on the views $135+. they had been fig11'iiizg iii the last four learB; that they proposed . nubile-i! firm; if! e pritsciyivtsrti' psriuir'avvl goxemmcnt, wh ch hurl been -vrolatex) ty. ti, last four lec'ir-r, that they proposal t , inn within proper 1 minds the power of t'si,1'u ecutive. Time were no 0tl'it (1719:9510 among the numbers of tho (Sabina? S l f! as they had bun able to fortrr:ct. 1513 tata they were perfectly unltcd 2.11:1 plop?" vigimn1rly to push forward! tum. vie which thry uritedly entertained. His n frknds bchind him knew very _ that he did Lot want to come there, and did not want to stay there. They kne I! _ circumstanccsnnder which he came th and under which he alone reataincd. I _ knew bi, hands were not clinging to o." and that he kept clliee only by p sure from behind him. And knew, and he now told them, t the instant they felt it their duty to d raw that pm more, to withdraw that em cordial support which they had given hitherto, that instant he would joy ' recognize the fact that duty permitted toleave a situation for which no man more sensible than he was that he was ,» titted, and th at he ought to quit, whothe regards his own Interests or possibly es ( gorda the interests of his friends. It l not correct that there wa- dissatief tion in his ranks ' and he 0 longed the Opposition to the (livid list. Then they would see whether solid column which he led to the "an! C out} which broke the hon. gentleman's hat, tslionr and lent-him disorganized and defeat- ed to the other Dido, w" not pupa-ed to enltnin on thin aide the battle which they fought and won on the other. (Loud cheerl.) te d, This :om plained