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TORONTO, WED SECUONM® PARLIAMENT--FIEST SES. #F O N. The foliowing were presented :---- Mr, HODGINS--From the Towns Bartie, for certain amendments to Act. Mr. FAIRBAIRN--From James Coyle Brown and others, of Peterborough, that the Department of Education may be directed to furaish maps,&c., to certain schools. Mr, DaAWSON--From the County Council of the conunty of Kent, for an appropriation to dredge the River Thames. Mr. CALVIN--From Schuler 'Si13fiiéy_:ii;d';;i I.lCI'E, that the Department of Education may be dirccted to furnish maps. &¢., to certain schools. Mr. MACKENZIE--FKFrom M Mclnnes and others, of West Williams, that no Act may pass to sepa-- rate the Connty of Middlcesex. Also--From Jobhn Dingham and others, of Eagt Wiliiams, to the same ciffect Also--From James Cuddy and others, of Rast Williams, to the same effect. Algo from A,. Seabrook and others, of Delaware, that the Township of Delaware may be atiached to the East riding of the County of Middlesex. Mr, ARDaAGH--From the Township Council of King, that the Bill for the construction of a railway from Hamilton to Hogs Bay may pass, Also--From the Town Council of Barrie, to the eame effect. Mi. BARBER--From the Town Canrei!) aft w ol HAnbbivy--/tCil InC LoOwn GCourcil of Mit-- ton, that the Bill for the construction of a railway fromm Mamilton to Hoos B4ay mavy nasue froim Mamilton to Hogs B:y may pase, _ _ =" Also--Fiom the County Council of Halton, to the same ecffect, ns i Mr. MocDONALD. (Leeds}--From Richard Tron. ton and others MP, mMoPUOnALIHU?. (Leeds)--From Richard Pres-- ton and others, of Leeds, that the Department of Education may be darected to furni--h maps, &C., to certain schools, Mr. CARLING-- From the Sandwich and G--avel Road Company, that the Bill now before tie House for the construction of a street railway from Sand-- wich to Windsor do not pass. REPORTsS BY COMMIT PEES, Mr. RYKERT presented the sixth report of the Committee on sStanding Orders.--Received. Mr. PAROER® presented the third report of the Commiltee on Private Bills.--Recetved The BPEAKER took the chair at PETITIONS. Mr, WILLIAM3 (Hamilton ) To incorporate the imada l_"gt.rolcum and Railway Company, Als:--To incopora 6 the Pacific Junciion Rall-- ay Company ot Canada. --~ * "Cifi¢ Jt & Itg 41 N1u>14 TurenaAy, introduced, read first e Bill Commitq #o, ro\\;cr the Law Bociety o?f miPirce £.0 00004 & §M PS Jav. 39, 187%2. 'ip Council of the Registry JAN. t Board of I rade,. Mr. CHRISTIE to enable the ' close a certain street. Hon, Mr. CaRLING--To ame in# vhe City Gas Company «';f th Nr. ROBLINSON--To incorporate the Kingst0M (f 5) bame to a division Board of 'I rade,. dA 1 ant omiscion in the ] Mr. CHRISTIE to enable the Town of Dundas t9 10 Totjce of (zrders in C lose a certain strect. that omission was 1 Hon. Mr. CARLING--To amend the Act resPECt-- M forward a motion ing the City Gas Company of the City of London,. Premier now ridicul The following w8 r_catd first time ana referred syst:m being intro to the Railway Committec,. * had on previous 0Cc Hon. Mr. CARLING--To amend !h.e Act rcep'ecto being tge case, He ing the Lonaon, Huron & Bruce Railway COM-- || Government policy PXNY . ; '| ing out enterprise. t 'J'l);e following were 1_'(3:1_(\ a first time and the f }gfve to the Govern second reading fixed for Friday. ing the Bill throug! Dr. CLARKE--To amena the Act of the Land carried through the Trasts of Upper Canada Company,. BF voted for, not becal _ Mr. BUTHRUNE--To amend the law respecting ple in the Bill, but t Public schools. : in lhe a:sist each other to Also--To amend the law jespeciing the issue | Hon Mr. WOOD of the m'ero;.r,ali\c writ of mu}xd:mms. was fixed definitely Tae foilowing were read a ur-:t time and orderca to be done, the mAt ; f()l' S'C""d 1'2';]..0ll)_g"to-"n}f)l'l;('):'l:n Auvihar hrnvisinn di':\(.'reti?'n. :).fr"ls)!_h"! 4 54 Th 4 4 4 Aiis dint ~*+ io * Hon. Mr. BLsa KR--tTo make Furtmner provIitiON touching the «lection of members to the Legisla-- tive Assembly. Also--Respecting the institation of snits agzaingt the Crown and proceedin;$ in Crown suits. Hon. Mrc. C«0uKs-- WO smend the Act relating to registrations of co--partnerships. Also--to enabie law fees n territoriil districts to be paid by law stamps. Mr. PRINCE moved that liams (Hamilton), Wood (V added to the Committee on ried. S o o ing coneintiere ViCu, MR. WOODsSs RE&SIGNATION,. I[on. Mr. SCOTT moved that a Committec be appointed, to consist of Messrs. Ardagh, Boulter, Boultbee, Fitzsimmors, Pardee, Prince, Ciarke, (Wellington), Perry and Favrewelil, under the re--0-- iution adopted by the Hojse with respect to the resignation of the Hon, i. B. Wood. Hion. Mr. CAMERON rose to protest againat the courre taken by hon. members. The resolution now referred to was not the resolution he bsought forward, and the obj»ct of the Goverment was s1m-- ply to stifle enquiry by appointing & committee compo--ed of a majority of those favorable to the accused. e therefore refused to proceced any fur-- thor in the matter, Hon. Mr. MACKENLIE said that the committee . wou'd investigate the charges faicly. lon. J. 8. MACDONALD thoug ht it too bad of \the Government to take such a course. Why dia the Government refuse to leave the resolution w.th i the same scope as 1t had been originaily moved, " instead of limiting it as they had done. ' _ THou. Nr. BLAKE said that he had inuvited the \ hon. member to bring specifis charges against any ~ or all members of the Government. Mr. CAMEGRON eaid be bad stated that he had information with respect to one other member of the Government, but that he declined then to meor-- tion his uname. The motion was then carried. s MUNICIPAL LOAN FUND. Ion. Mr. MACKENZIE laid on the table certa'n returns with re«pect to this fund, I{on. Mr. BLAKE moved the soecond resding of the Bil: to meke further provisisn touching the appropriation of the Rail way Fund, and do.ng go observed that the ohbject of the Government in introduciog this measure was to amend, not t? re-- V & ma io io i sc un 44 a Mr.'T. FERGUsON thought that the House should be careful to see that the responsibility should not be shirked by those to whom it proper-- ly belonged. Serious charges had been brought against the Government, about which there was much differ :nce of opinion in thecountry, but the House was now called upon t > repose trust in this immaculae Government. He believed the result of their policy would be to retard the develope:-- ment of the country by throwing obs'acles in the way of the opening up of the land. He thought it very doubtful whether any attempt would pe made to lsitiate railway schemes between the adj>ur-- |\ meut of Parliameat and the next session. ion. «. B. WOOD was quite willing to take the | 1 sponsibility of anything which had been done by |the Jlate Government; he thought that Go-- |\ vernment might bhave been open to criticism in fome departments, but there was no point in their ; 0 icy which could be fairly attacked except this iailwey fund. Now he had never denied the right ciiksi House to a full conirol over the public 'money, and he did not think that principle had 'ever 'been deniecd in that or in the British Parliament. As a member of _ the late Gover moent he totally repudiated the idea thlz]n' ihey had any idea of arrogating to themsclves the ceposat atiheir own will of that million and a half. The limits of their di<cretinnary power were so well defined that they could not go beyond them; and the game discretionary limits would re-- main in force now. 'The su position that the American logrolling system might be thas intro duced was mere bosh. (Langater.) So far from that being the case the Government now i rogosed to take toie full responsinility of recomawerding g'-apts..."-.---"' t onpige e c 20000000 n cupe e ie s e n e NR Hon. J. 8. MACDONALD said the hon. gentle-- man had accused the Governiment of which he (Mr. Macdonald) was formerly a member of sceek-- ing to asgrandize themselves at the expense of the House and of desiring te employ,for the purpose of cogupting constituencies, the million and a hulfr%lwuy fund. That charge was without any found:tion whatever; every cent of the money was in the public treasury. _ The House must con-- sider the circumstances under which the railway pol:cy of thelate uevernment had come into force, and remingded the House that under the former legislation railway enterprise had become greatly developed. Hemaintained that that policy was far more favorable to the promotion of euch en-- terprises than that now prolfiosed. There had been no attempt on the part of the late Governmeut to interfere with the proper control of the House over the public funds. So far from auy favoritism toward their supporters the late Government, in the cases in which they had authorized grants in aid of rail-- ways whose promoters had been their most un-- flinching supporters, had fixed the grants at the minimum figure per mile. The r:esult of that policy had been a great revival of railway enter-- prise, many of which would come before the House for grants; but those which did not succeed in ob-- taining aid would have to wait until the next ses-- sion of Parliament before being able to take any further steps. MHon. Mr. CAMERON said that the statements [' \ of the hon. Premier implied a wilful mieap&)rcheu- sion of th : course which had been proposed by the late Government. That Government had merely desired to act upon the authority given to them by the House under the Railway Aid Act. _ Uncer the rew poiicy it would be those who could birng most pressure on the Government who would lave the best chance of getting the money; wher.as the principle of the late Government was to consider each scheme on its merits and "First come, first zerved." 'The result of that policy was to encou-- rage railway ent--rprise, and it was a just and a creditable policy. With regard to this B'li, he found it brought forward by a Govern-- me--nt one of whose members had formerly voted against toe policy now inau;urated ; he referred to tue HMon. Commissioner of Crown Lands. it was not his intention to divide the House but he would protest against the action of the Govern-- meitin thus sh rking their responsibility. __ '--PRINCE moved that Mesers, Dsacon, Wil-- s (Hamilton), Wood ( Victoria), and W ilson be d to the Committee on the Gaine Laws. Cor-- 10 " Mr. CUMBERLAND wanted to know if the view of Ministerial responaibility laid down by the last epeaker was accepted by the Government; if so he vhougzht they would find themeclves in a fix A well defined roesponsibllity warimposed on the Government by the previous legislation 'but the policy now propoged gave the Government an op: portani'y of shirking the proper +esponaibility. If the House divided he should vote againgt the Biil. The House then took the usual recess. After Recess. Mr. RYKERT said the quest'ons involve 1 in the Bill bad been so plainly set before the House that it was not necesgary to further discuse them. He entertained the same opinion with respect to the Bill that he had previously express-- od und shonld feel it hi« duty to vote against it it TAE RALILWAY FUND. GA) £AME LAWS. oya== C . _ tatamw -- PROPA WBRA mansk L. it came to a division. There was a most i ® ant omisgion in the Bill with respect to the l:m'r't notice of orders in Council in the Gazetie, und# , that omission was not rectified he soould bring | forward a motion on the subject. 'The hop { Premier now ridiculed the idea of the log rolling $ systim being introduced into the House, but ho had on previous occasions expressed a fear of that being the case, He (Mr. Rykert) feared that the Government policy would have the effect of crush-- ing out enterprise. He boped the House would leave to the Government the responsibility of pags-- ing the Bill through the House. Thore were Bills carried through the House, which bon. gentlemen voted for, not because there was any great pripei-- ple in the Bill, but because they knew they could a:rist each other to carry Bills througo the H wee, Hon Mr. WOOD explained that he had said if it was fixed definitely by Act of Parliament what was to be done, the matter would be placed beyond the discretion of both the House and the Government, 1 Mr. PRINCE could not see what was the object of continuing the debate, as thore opporing the bill had expressed the wish not to press the mat-- Lerto A AIYISION. _ ___ __ _ Luuss :424 UWL UV EB SERT EM NMr. S. C. WuOD (Victoria) said as large am »nnts of capital bad been inverted on the faith of the Act which was passed he had thought it his daty to vote again=t the amendmint of the hon. gentle man when in opposition. | Bat tie Hou--e had now unmistakeably accepted that princisle. For him self he had no «lijection to the principe of tke bi'l; an hon, memner bhad accu>ed them of wilfull3 misrepreseming the working of the bill, but as fa: as he could ju--ze he was not aware that that ka been done. l . L0 & smcs c nmui e n Hon. Mr. CAMERON raid the hon. goutleman had introduced the Bill in a style to make people believe that it wonld be the saivation of the conn-- try, when after all it only related to the appoint-- ment of an arbitrator betwoeen some municipalities, He charactori<ed the remarks of the Hon. Premier as an example of extreme sueciat pleadi'g in on-- deavoring to prove that his conduct in appuinting a sixth memb r of the Excentive Conmcil was in ac-- c rdar co with the provisions of the Corf{edecration Act. But people eutside would take a different v.ew of that siep. There was nothing very novel ia the Bill; stmilar bi Is had been introduced into the House on many previous occasions, But a | clause had been inserted which rendered it possible | for an unlimirted number of men.bers of that House | to boecome members of the Execusive Council. That | was a mat'er on which hbe shou'd think it his duty to tske the opinion of the House. When I the ual -- Representation -- Bill came on, tte RHouso would have before it the whole programme of the greet Liberal party; these | matters which had been brought forward were not worthy the name of measures. Mr. MeCALL thought this was a very important measure, and that the last speaker had supplied an argument in fwvorof its passing. He regretted th«t the Governwent, before appointing an exira member of the executive had not taken the epia-- ion of the House, ond4 eaid it was the last thing he shou'd have expecte 1 of these whs had:naiptained Hon, Mr. BLAKE moaved the second reading of | the Bill to further seeme the Independence of the Legislative Assembily, and in doing so said that in this orsome ether form the same mattor was brought before the Legislavure reveral times tefore and had always boen de'eated, bat on the la<t occasion with a very emall ma jority, but he bhad no doubt but that it would now be carried with a large majority _ 'The measure con'ained a clanse wh ch would meet the case of having a President of Council, which o®ee he held. Th« action that he had taken in tlus matter was quite consistent,. _ It had been said that by so duing ke had been comdemned, because in 1867 he hed said that the con--titution gave the number of Executive Councillers., Bo it did at that time, but things were now changed, ard that clauge r. ferred on'y to whe first formation «<f the Goverriment, -- ard not to _ the prosent. It seemed to him that there con'd be no reasonable objecion to the measure now proposed ; he hoped that they would uot be called upon to hear the threadbare argaments which had bocn se many (imesrepeated. _ _ .. ;. .. . . I Mr. LAUDER said it was true that the hon. C.mmissioner of Public Works bad told the peo-- pe of Grey that he (Mr. Lauder,) was bound hand and foot to the late Administration, and was afraid to oppose them; hut the people did not helieve that statement. Now that appointment which he held he hbad not sought. He had supported th¢ late Governm.nt as sicadily in the first two £¢8: sions of the lite Parliament as he had in the third after he had received that appointment; it was 804 a question of gupport in return for brivery at 4l}. There was not a man in the Mouse who ©0W4 say that he had voted in a diff--rert manner afte" receiving that trusteeship from the way he h24 voted before. He could tell hon. gentliemen th8! if they kept the Administration as free from CO*; rup ion as the late Government did, they would do well. Be_ belicved the people Of t©8 so s.rongly the rights of the Heusa. -- But he con-- sidered the measure now proposed to be sonn'd and would support it. Hon. Mr, WOVD aid that in England it was weli known thst persons were appointed to high posi ti. ns of trus<t wnho were in opposition to the gov-- emnmeunt -- In this corniry they had gone to a gr.at lengih in gecuring an iedependence act. "Ihere was only one door jeft open, and that was that by statiuite the Crown had the power of appointing persons to discharge duties which the Goverament could not control. If they got the money it aid not ma tor to them from whom it came. If there was unything to be made out of these things--if it was posrible to raige any ecandal about ih--e thinss, that was all that could be done. He was vrepancd to support the Bil, but he wanited it passed and hermetically sealed so that no Govern-- mont orany one else could change is _ In regard to the new office, he recollected whean some years ago a ci<cussion took place in regard to the appoint-- Hon. Mr. CAMERON--I only did what the Crewn officers ef England had done without reproof, and with approvu.l. Hon. Mr, McCKELLAR asid that i &# wrong had been _ done there that was n»o reason why it should be dore here. _ HB¢ thought it was high time something was dore is the matter. _ Me wou'!ld vote for it with all he heart, and had no doubt but that it would be ca-- ried by a large majoriy. A person helding the paltry office of Coron--r could not take a place in the Mouse, but yet the hou. member for Routh Gl;'py cou'd come here ard still hold his trustee ship. Mr. McKELLAR said he remembered that when this question was brought before the House some two years 2go, the hon. leader of the Oppersition, some tao years ago, r®trongly opposed the mea-- sure, and he did so again now. oo o Ees e o en e es o en o t snn t n o o ho c 0 ais O 99 ment. He then sympathieed wuh the leading spirit of the discussion, MKe remembered very well that then the hon. President of the Council had said that there were on y six or seven members of thke Executive Council in the United btates.ard that in this new country with scarcely four miliions of a yopulation it had been proposed to have 13 mem-- Lcrs in the Executive Council. Hecid not think the hon. President ef the Council was so very wealthy that he could afford to discharge the dutics of his oflice without remuncration, and he had no doubt but that if it was found that the ofilice was to be made a permanent one there would be & salary attached to it as well as to the other of cce of the Execative Council Mr. FERGUSON thought that if the son_ or the brother of an hon. member was appsinted to an oftice such hon. meawber would feel as much bound to gupport th--m as if he had received it himself, and that theretore ther . was® as much argume t in one case as in the other,. With respoct to the ap-- pointment of an additional member of the Execu-- tive Council, he w uld call the attentien ef the House to clause 134 cf the Confederation Act, which did not in any way limit the restri@ ed »num-- ber to the first Council only. opposition. | But tue Hou--e had now y accepted that princigle, For him io uljection to the principe of tke memser bhad accu>ed them of wilfully ing the working of the bill, but as far me--e he was not aware that that kad id had he been in the House at the y ques tion was prevdiously di<case-- «» ho should have supported cthe tbe hon gentleman now at the h ad n--nt: and he should now support t in carrving ont the rame privci action