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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 2 Feb 1872, p. 4

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at 'as trtt US " P" If 1, [1311:2514 rErsy T Fr.ft- 510)} The :EEAEER took the than 31323-3. PE W11uyiie. The following were presonted ,-» Mr. Mc2iBBON-9 rom County Council of Ra- ron. praying tot certam amundm- Ms to the Muni- cimlLSW- . " A. 7 _:', - ' - "Also from tlc. same. for the appojomnentof the, surplus. Also from the samu, for Curtain amcndnu nts to the Agricultural Law. thy aai5'"""f'f'"ff, I'D". . le Mr. CU JK-hom the muted cmpnuvs of Sbt mont. Dundaa and Glengarry, playmg for Lurtam tuppadppTtg tttttifuty Law. __ A __A T0K0NTO.TUE Mr. "NCLAI1t- had: the City council of King Mon, praying for mum; umvndmcms to the As- ecument Law. "if. -irr:iiiit' "siirciiriiiiiriitos. R. Ferguson and others, of Simcoe, for the incorporation of the Sqtylt twirpt'.pp_hisrtcrn tiectlptt Railway .v'otppptry. Mr. McChLr,--rrtont (Sun. 1TiisyrIapr1 others. of Port Dover, praying for the establishment of an lncbriatu Asyhlm in Ontario. -iti. "iieiiItit,art --ll'lto petition of J. Bull'm'lu and others, ot Berlin, praying tsgaittst any extrusion ot the rtcetutt and Berlin ailwey, BILLS INTRODUCED. Mr. oL1YE1t--Bill lo incorporate the Town of 'Ill.'"""""""'" Rdcu'cd to Ptivatc Bills Commit,- cc. Mr. WOOD, (victprlt)rBill to ttftirm Certain by- laws of the Midland hallway. Refund to Coin. ngittee on Rallwavs. _ _ A 7 _ . . Mr. OLIVER From the Town Coviic'l of 'Ing'cr- troll, praying for an A tt tp enablc them to increase their debt. __ - -iiiriiiji. 12:1331170 amend (he Act whim; to Municipal Institutions of Uppcs Gamma. Sewnd rist1divioyi1cTftdfAw.1ocmor.t.y.y., t, . "iiiiii."iiCc"iitKRL:C--iihl, incnarruralc the Toronto Dairy Company. Refund Lu Ih."rrydc Bids Committee. - - --= - _ . . .. -. ' Mr. BtJULTBEE--Bill to iuccttTioveto iltc West- ern t.Juta.io Railway Company. licferrcd to Cout. mmee on Railways. Mr. WILLIAM H, Htuttiltort--Bill .Lo iurorppratc the Hamilton and North Wettcrn lhilway Cont- per. "BE'EEHEd [pfgonupittcc on Py1ro,,sit, . n "ii/ oiiv'ifi-"-iiiiiiFriG.FiitGiijhir" port Bur- well and Ingcrsoll Railway Co. Referred to Com- mmce on haim'ayr: _ . _ ' .. v __, tt, ""i'fi".Uiiiiiiiiiich% to incorpamtc the Yorhviile s',l'iatttire1.vu"t" Run-nod to X's-hate Bins Com- m ee. '"iii?."'iuo,N t'Errrr-Bill to amt-Md the m of' lho Strattonl and Huron Railway C a Halon-Cd to C'ommitteeop Railways,_ _ . aC, m" Mr. PAT t'iilttb'uN--Bil1 to incorpora'c the To- roam and Yorkwllc Waterworks Company. Ite- ferred to I). mmittee on Private Bills. Mr. RYKE RT--. Bill to enable Canada Bolt Com- pany to establish their chicf place of business at I'oronto and for other purposes. Referred to Com- mittee on Private Bills. Hon. Mr. cgMii1tou---Bi11 to amend the Munici- pal Institutions Act of Upper Canada so far as It relates to thqcity of Toronto. RcIctrud to Cum- mince on Private Bills. _ _ q , n" Mr. 'k"f2iG'iC-iriii"G revise and amend the City of Toronto Waterworks Act. Referred to Cum- mittee on Privgle Billet. -.... . .. J" .. gt [111;qu V11 = ll IMIV "ll-\l Mon. Mr. csMtittuN---Bill to authorhzc the Cor- poration of the City of Toronto to construct Water- works. Referred to Committee on Private Tillts. ohililMlis & BOBCAYGEON RULWAY. The report ot the committee on the Bill to incor- . gonna the Omemee B brayaeou and North Peter- orough Junction itallway Company. was brought . unby Mr. Williams. (Durham). and the tunehid- l memes read by the Clerk. Tho report, was then adopted, and the third reading appointed for to- l motrow. i CITY OF LONDON DEBT. ' The House went Into committee of the whole, Mr. Hacdonald gg'te) in the chair on the Bill to i; t coruolldate the l at» _ at the city of London. The i,; Bill was reported and ordered to be read a mum time to-morrow. . 't TIb mug Erirgmph. LSD Ds' Megan. I Ll." C. c. 1S72. itd. W. teei'rriihiri 7133651310 second renting]? of d lull to incorporate the New]: Show Silver 1mm [l 00. This ms agreed to, and the bill was refcrmfl War to committee ot the whole House to marrow. I' THE ASSESSMENI' LAWS. _ Mr. PERRY cnquircd whether it was the iul.,etr tion of Government during the present EcSSinn to , lax-Mme a momma amending the At'sassiriout w. Tiii. BLAKE replied that it was not 1hc intention ot Government to do so. _ Mr. ARDAGEI moved for a. return ot all the sur- veyed lands in the County of Shame belonging to thits rroviucc. the tce ot M him is all" in the brown showing tho wwsship. town or village, number Ind concession ct each lot or Part lot; my», stating in respect to each lot or part ot the following par. tlculars, viz; _ . " .. , . . .. It and or agrct d to bc sold, and in such case the name of the purchaser or intending purchaser, the date ot sale or agreement tor sale, the price for which sold. the amount paid thereon, and the amount remaining due at date of return; also, the conditions of payment in uses of sale, and as to settlement orotherwtee (if any); also, the fact of 1 any lot or part lot being occupied or improved ( within the knowledge of the Crown Lands Depart- ment; and the time when such impruvc'u1et1t made or such occupancy commenced, so far as known; also, if any timber license granted for any lot or part lot and if so, the date and terms of such li. cense. irrWrGgiii explained that his object in doing so was to place information within reach of those desirous to become settlers on tho Crown Lands and also to bring the question of the treatment of antlers before the House. lie thought the settlers ' had been harshly treated and read letters to show that such was the case. At present the settler on the pubic lands had no power to prevent the inm- berman from coming on to his land and taking the pine. He related several cases which had come under his notice, among them one of 'tt man who after having settled ten wars on a lot had sold tho pine believing he had a perfect right to do tlo, but the 'di;GrGiis'iiifirii proceedings against hip... LDC Uovel'umouu "Jun umcuuauga uéulucw - Mr. DEKOCHE said that there w', re similar cases ot hardship which had come before his no- tic in the ruling which he represented. There was a strong feeling on this subject in the back coun- try Great dltllculty had been met with in getting patents; and these who were best qualified to be come Settlers were frequently found to Co else where to look for land, tailing to obtain any en. couragernenti here. He wished the ngotion was enlartred to the \thle Proving; . unculxvu "an - ___-....-""-'- "me-e'" _ - - _ 0' - ot the large, reVenue derived from that scurce by the Govcri1ment. The policy of the Government would be to endeavor to prevent any clashing be- tween the interests of the settlers and the lum- bercrs. lie did not believe that those two inter- ests were in avg way hostile. Mr. ARDAG said his object in asking for those details was to know what lands had been sold; however his object would be attained if tho rc- turn: w hich the hon gentleman premised were supplied. -.. "I. ,.. n - "-23 11...! ".-, hurl hnnn Du yuuu. t?if/. Mr. marshes said that there had been cases of pretended settlers coming upon the land and making small clearances, simply for the Pl" Foee ot obtaining possession of the pine; he thought t was the duty ot the Government to preventthat from being done. In his experience or the Crown Lands Department he could call to mind no case of a bone 6/16 settler being harshly or unjustly treat ed. l Mr. BROOKE gave the name and address of the case he had referred to; and added that it he were to relate all the cases of 1t1,,"iitl11it', that he had I heard of, he would take up all: t 0 time of the House. He believed the hon. member for Niagara had done what he concen'ed to be his duty willie in charge of that department, but nevertheless dis- eatisfaction hadegristcd . tl l l nu" mm 't..,t s-,',,-, he. A eutlsfacuon nuu "Irlcu . non. Mr. CAMERON said that, it was impossible:, _ to p,i1 e decisions between claimants in these cases without giving ode-nee to some. The t ',aimg of hotlls'ls required mort favorable col sidcmtion. but they were not entitled to what they had not been promised. He knew hundreds of cases of men who had gone on to lands tuult for settlement in order to get ponies- Mon of the timber. It would not do to adopt a. wholesale a) stem without regard to the real nature ot the lots. The policy proposed by the late Gov- ernment was to offer the timber liceDSes by public auction no as to secure their fall value. Much of the land included In the free grunt had valuable I timber. in om which large amounts of revenue might be obtained; as a proof of that thcv found that the public auction of the timber licensee fetched the large sum of $118,000 tor the more get- mission to cut the timber, in addition to un er- taking to pay double dues 115mm the logs. Was it rightthat a hardwood lot an a pine lot should be placed on the Sumo terms. when the timber on the former would have no marketable value and the latter would be worth perhupa a thousand dollars? He would recommend the hon. Commissioner to study the matter carefully before promising what he would fiilil perhaps he could not perform: Hon. Mr. S ',0T'i' said the notice ironed ty the late Government referred to the whole of the free giant districts, . Hon. Mr. lthIl.\RD'S rsplojued that the lands ia,1.e'ihitl? were not pine lands. r. GRANGE thought the licensing system was detrimental to the settlers, whore rrghts should be 1'Au'olxzcted. r. CALVIN 'ih'ught ubint might be taken trout the practice in the States. where the landwas sold by public auction. He wanted to see common annul- "nil I'M}? ttht Y !ir.r/.i1snycdirt d"illl'_'f 'l'iib. the 1111". Mr. _t.1A1tttl:s,ti.'r's.)h' .1114 '-t';cta.ctrrtr'trtv..1 b20119. long discussion he an we inland taking up the time of the Housu He wished. huwewr, to euro robot-me from his persoml KnoWledgu the remarks made by the hon. -cornrnio.tsioner ot Crown Lands 22nd endorsed by the hon. member for Niagara as _ ; to men taking; up lots in the lumber (Katrine amply for the purpose of obtsiuhu.ti the Ithntter and qtterwards abandoning the JanpctT..owirrtr at the tune of obtaining such lots they were ' patently vuluulcss for tstlttltynept. [faxing travel- ifi.' CALVIN m- ught a hit front the practice in the States sold by public auction. He wa sense and fair play ru.ycru'ei/cil land. --__- " .. Fro wp Ite, Perfectly vuluclcss for settlement. avlug travel- ttl through sections of the lum ping regions where such transactions had occurtd, he could 515291; ir.ty! 1,kJyorleAsit' ofjth'c haunt" I , "ifCiYtiiidiriiLrrit%ncd the details cf Eu cial case: he had referred to. _ L A _ & _ _ Mr. BUULTBEE said there had am too much attention paid to the lumbering in este and too little to the settlers. He could not 5 that it. was advantageous to the country to be it uch a bury to strip it, of the timber. 'Lere value of the timber was not obtained by the couurv under the present rcgulwiona. At present an lumbermcn went through picking out the but timbcrmd leaving the rest to L, destroyed by tire. lie "SIEMENS opght..fjr1tt.tytopi?c.d. . .. ' .. , . "1163:-le EiGiiriitiN rcipvlained that the lates Government had adopted the pumg of not en coypgi.yitjyytpelictuijoy,9rlygirt_irterlt,tn_itt, _ auction on the late Govermnrnt. . The motion w'ur then agreed to. CROWN. LAB'DS IN NORFOLK. Hon. Mr. CAMERON moved for ninth: (Mums with respect to mblic lands in the (huntyof Nor. folk; and explained the natn re ot the Information he desired to have placed before t' .'. House. Bom Mr. BLAKE said that. out" than was some special reason for asking than rcturns he should object to the motion. t 7 Mr. CAMERON thought it was t unreason- able to ask this information. Run of a similar nttyre h_3_d pig'iigyly lie HPS. '41:.- "uraacl u "POE uuuur \VugLu unum; noun u- [tun gym. 5. WV - Mr. MCCALh would I ke yer. well to see In" ro. turns of these lands, but he objected to the names of purchasers. with the arms-ages. &c. being given. Tho country was gremly mdebted to the hon. member for bringing the matter More the House. J . ' , . , . . "GUI-I10 ee', "luv-vua' ur.~-_3-v__7,' . _ . . Hon. Mr. WOOD cxola med the _"rircttnrshulcei9 under which those rpfqrps had been}. 9:159:13." m 1101188. The motion was then 'ttiieec11 to. unit " being six o'cluclr, the Home took t e ttottircccsti, Allow Recess. 1NSC RANGE COMPANlB 5. Mr. H'RINGER moved tho Fenund reading of a Bill to consolidate and amend the laws DEV'JI'! rc- hrence to Mutual Insurance Companies doing In times: in 1th Eroyincq itpluht),?,C.a,,, tut mm CROWN LANDS 1N SIMCOE. mraglna the agplication for large umber Mums. Mr. BUI'LT Eh". said than In had meant no te- M 125 _

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