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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 10 Jan 1873, p. 4

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would also take occasion to ssy that , the Commissioner of Crown Lands had given very greet emanation in the county in spite ot ell the mentions and} iiiiiiiiWii. 'iGtistiliremrunaiomsrotNt1iit Works, no men had been more abused, but he believed he still held the ooedidenoo of the country, and he was sure he deserved it. He wee not wlueinted with the hon. Trent met, but from his reputation he believed he was entitled to the support of the country. But he gnve his support to the Government, not on account M its personnel alone, but also because they represented principles which he approved o , end which were in tho interest 0 the country. He concluded by edverting to the growth of Reform principles which, he believed, would soon be triumphant in all oi the Provinces. (Cheers) The paragraph passed. On the 11th paw graph, llon. Mr. CAMERON celled the attention of the Government to an evil which existed in the 1hosinee, and which was not likely, from anything he had heard, to be remedied by the Government. He referred to the non-payment of witnesses in criminel cues, Every person connected with the adminis- tration of justice received remuneretion for his services except witnesses, who were bionght sometimes from a greet distenoe, and-put to great expense, and got nothing ior it Be was not aware of my res-son why they should not be paid; end it was the in- tention of the lete Government totake the wetter up had they remained in otiitto, Mr. CAMERON wanted to know why the cue t'g'tt'rl', or neerly prepared. hie the [new 'r for Brunt, while he was a men: r of the late Admitsitstration, had not been com- pleted. Every Session the into Government had bten beset wish enquiries on to why more progress Was not made. But it we: much more difficult to propere the one for the Ar. hltrntors than it was to prepare it for the Privy Council. He new no reason why the one had not been brought bdore the Privy Council Und argued before this. However mnchhemightdisnpgroveoftheoounepnrened . by the member for rant. he would any that he was more familiar with the an bject end better uble to argue it before the Privy Council than any other person, and he re. gretted that that gentleman had not been shargod with the conduct of thin matter so that we might hare had it determined be. Bore this. Atty-Gen. MUWAT agreed that the sub- ieot was one which ought to be dealt with. San he took omce he had given it [01118 consideration, but it wu not mentioned in the npoooh because the details of the manure were not numuiontly comidcrod. The matter was still under consideration. The wagnph passed, as did .180 the next pangsph. Ou the 13th paragraph, relating to t a ubitntion between Ontario and Quebec, Attorney-General MOWAT said the cor- respondence "Lit'h mu promised in the Speech would show that the Itltt in getting the cue submitted to the Privy Counisil was not owing to any 00in once of the Gown-n. went either before he genome 3 member of it or mince. Tho paragraph pulsed, " did also the m xt paragraph. On the 15th paragraph, re. Wing to the more." in the rewnuo, Mr. CAMERON oheerved that it we. emet- tu of ,'t..h',',t to him that the revenue had been incrueu h tho ale of n largn quantity of our timber Imit- and the moat vduable part 1 of the non rces of our revenue. do could l scum-3y join in con ntulnting the country uan an increase "as"! revenue, when that increase "as on" by that which must he dctuimentnl to the intcresta of the country in the future. Hon Mr. SCOTT said he had not intend. ed to make any ouervationa upon the Ad. drew, but eevernl hon. gentlemen lining ia. cidentatiyldraso, nttentionto his menngemcnt of the Crown Lano--eorm, of them in the meet kindly manner-he thought it deeinble to she some explanations in regnrl to the tt rritcry, and the motives which induced him to recommend the _I_ele - of the timber limit. thereon. m had Otto casion last summer to visit the Lake Superior region. and he found the territory north it and lake Huron e t bleak waste for the moat put. He found on turning up the records that nearly the whom of that territory had at one time keen put t nan license to the friends of the Gov. emn wt of that day, nom- of whom, with one or no "t..,tt,'.""t Were connected with the huip,.vr true. A11 th t was chuged was 3 mm id nut of fifty c ta our F'Illlte mile. He mm in his hand Tei rat oi the Com- mis. ior.er of Crown ' a for 1356, which com-.iuul a. long list of the names of the fi'//: mento whom the territory waalioensed t sl mm d alu, that the Government received 'hor "or from these ground rents only about 5:" o. , he parties, who had the licenses, not vr!dorsstanding the lumburtrade, declined to [my cm: the small ground rents, an? consequently the limits came ha. k to the Government. He found als t that bad an Wort been made to settle thst country. In 1862 the land was offered at 1'0 cents an acre, but in the ten years from that due only about 200 acre: eye" wereeold. The attempt to induce nettlement. failed. He was familiar with the settlement of Maine, as well as the Ottawa Valley; and reoogniz. in g the handout» of settling that territory, he believ the only \\.:y to w umplish that waeto enlist the smmv Jo.ciiuratiori of yy h» th men I.ni;.'",'i'd in tl:e "nub"? trode, a" u, by purchuiig the hr'xlk-r hunts, ww..h'- ittrvs.. :v direct ir,'uutvd in lex' mtthnwnt of the 70!"? tory. llu hm; but lutcnzlwl to so" a Jr'ilr h larger link. but all," month hwy: vcd bro townships, whisk coutcrti l 11 by far the belt tlmlm. Hvi he Bui'l these he would have row-3'» rd XIV-r a miitsoirrnore ti; .n he did receive. Mus lion. friend (Mr, Cam. eron) had observed that he had Bold all the territory on Lake Huron. IN the hon. gentleman, when he was Commissioner of Crown Lands, made himself acquainted with this territory a he ought to have done, he would have known that he had sold only a may small slice of it. He had been charged in the puhlic prep, with having actueted hone of dollars. He spoke of what he knew u lwn he made that statement. So far as the timber Was concerned, he considered the land sold was probably the least valuable of all our timber lands. Up to the time of their tales the "hole extent bl our timber limits "d as 12,000 square miles, from which n reve- rnc accrued last year in duel alone of $559,- 000. He should have added, to these 12,000 "mare miles, fifty per cent. for what was Lnown as the Ottawa Valley. There Were 5,700 aqu are miles there, and he did not hesitate to ray that if that territory was put in the market they could get a bo "ll of tive millions. He eatimnted the value of that Much of land for the timber alone at twenty- rive million dollar I. Talk about the surplus of the Province-it was very little compared with the value of our immense timber limits His object in putting a small portion of the territory in the market was not so much t he accumulation of money but rather the settle- ment of it. By that policy he had Iecured the direct interest in the nettlemont of that territory of some 40 or 50 capitalists of thia countrz, who would invest on an average at least 850,000 each in that territory, to that in a few years some three or four millions would be invested there in saw mills, in roads, and in 'arms and general improve. ments. That land " present was perfectly im unable to settlers , but in the hand: orthose men, who knew how to get money out of ita timber, it would soon become settled, so that in the next decade it would be tilled with flourishing villains and line cultivated farms. The lumborman must grow his own hay and oats and create' a lit. tle colony around him; he must have a body of workmen; and therefore it would be his in. tutti to take atop- that would. but to the "itlemini of that Country. m, would repeat that the territory sold was the least valneble of .all our timber berths. He could have put up one tifth of the quantity and it would have realized double the amount. It being six, the House rose. After recon, Mr. SCOTT resumed: Bis hon friend from East Toronto had criticised the Government ior lining sold there timber bertha without luring first submitted the (mention with nor-Bid tutd%tish motives in putting this territory urtdee license. When all the facts were known and the whole policy ex. rlained he did not think there Would be a man in the ccuntry that would not amide him of this chuge. Had he desired to ia. vour those with whom he had been long asarociatei--tho people of the ftttawa Valley - he might-haw placed under license a terri. b-ry one mile of which was worth one hun. dred miles of the territory which ho had said. He could have at up n block of land on yhicli he; could have got? bonus of !ive. md.

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