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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 23 Jan 1873, p. 6

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' , {#63003 L'; LN .1' . We was to. some extent mpomible for @911"; ". T "o""""fgu1g.""1 90m" which the Ontario Government dt _ " " .- p' .1. . . in the appomtment of Queen's Counsel for t Mr. CLARKE (Wellington) tr.tt.tvrrf the the Pro-vines, of Ontario. That appointment [ a second reading of a Bill to preside for the was based upon his recommendation whilst V . protection in Ontario ti. insectivorous occupying the position he did, and he was i and other birds beneficial to agri' quite prepared to vindicate the course then culture. The Act, the honourable pursued. m would ask the hon. member , "human explained, already_ in oxatence for Etsacxtooonpur in att had been sue. " for tho proreotAm of ituHNtttrttrot" Airdt gested on the part of Government, and , ouly pruéctet1 them for _'.', comm Pew"i of that the discussion on the general question he year. whilst. if the Bill ht, wat' introdue. with reference to the jurisdiction of the two 'N', wtrq peel, they would be proteettsd Governments should be deferred. (Hear, during the whole'of the year. No one would hear ) human the utility of this deryiptiat of Mr. PRINCE, the: explaining the mia. bryis.tu.ost.ros "ll.,' inroct potstt 's.h.iot.t proved tsonerption of the Bill which he thought Mr, isoiuiurit.uato agriculture, and their power Cameron laboured under, withdrew the " iniury was only limited by the reduction Bill and the order was discharged. If. their number. Another feature of the ASSESSMENT L IW. Bill was the givmg of power to seize nets, . l traps. the. used for the purpose of trapping Mr. RYKERT moved the second reading tlr seizure of birds, and to seize guns use by of the Bill to amend the Assessment Law, boys for their destruction These were the aid (xplained its provisions. It provided two principal provisions of the Bill, which that property holders shall declare upon wold not, he the or uiro further the oath the amount of property they possess, cushion. Itititt, It also provided that personal Property shall _ Ilu, pm Wt d a "com: time. be tune to a greater extent than heretofore. Mr. CLARKE then moved that tho Bill I Y.'. WWW" "f. f"; /g,',r,tli'lvet, tad "eiLtt be M: rred to a Special Committee, ciiisist 'elf 1nct me dune rom my source w th . ing of the following gentlemen ..--Hou. A. i t:Ver. . . . Mckcllar, Messrs Bylicrt, Prince Barber, l, M r. WOOD obyrc'ed to compelling parties Scott (they), Boult. r, Cook, Gibson, and tty declare the amount of their property Choke (Wellington). undironlh. P..yost other respects he ap- Curried. q prov: d of the Bill. , , , , , . Mr. DRAGON minted out that one art PRECEDENCE ol, COUNSEL ', of this Bill was1 beyond the jurisdictio'd of Mr. PRINCE, in moving the second read. _,' tl.G Home, namely the 01311.0 thst a false ing of the Bill respecting rank and precedence i declaration of property under oath ofconnselinthelawoourtsofOntario,saidthat should be punishe " if for per. itfstas not intendedto curtail the power ofjud jury lit- pomtcd out similar cases ges in their own courts. A certain number climb had hem held by the Minister of of gentlemenhad been invested with certain Justic to be beyond the powers of this privileges, Par her Majesty's represents- l Legirlature. . the. which h boon recognised by the ' in. noon said this Legislature had the I Courts. The advantages conferred were we power to micro-e penalties for the infraction posed to be that the holder was employed by of it, laws Era i2t'2t' do her business, buf that ides Mr MONK observed that no law was I 'dh,',", 'dttfttttlif',uht"ht',1flitf teg more frequently disregarded than the assess- been appointedto do her Majesty's business. mint law. lie thought it rather hard to Not onl was this the case with himself but I t'tvlllldi a proprietor to make Mi.davit before with other gentlemen, who had been passed T tmyy,t'tra.te " to the "In". trf his property. over by the selection of others not holding a lie lrd tso) ogre" of requiring an atiidarit i similar" commission. Whens gentleman re- 9"." if the ou." desired It, the Assessor oeived . patent from her Majesty, he tthe might be authorized to take the affidavit. speaker) took it that that gentleman received Mr SEXTUN pointed out tut it money [ certain privileges which, in the Province of land on a mortgage was taxed, and the _ j 0ntatiu--for he would ooaiine his remarks to land turd alto, then in reality the land that.portion of the c_tt1ntry--oonauted in would be taxed twice. 'reBrtng a more va.luaYe gown than other Mr, FRASER observed that the man who . l members of the profession, Occupying a front borrowed the money would have to pay the nut P. the Coumand having thssrighfto make tax on the mortgage as well as the tax on the td,t'"it ttrl other members of the Protea. lard, sion. on seemed to the s eaker _ . . that there was "it injustice in 1'd'd priv. Mr: CAMEROh said it was a gene- 11tgertolegalgatumerinotiimiur1rhorioar. ,rsl prinmple that no property should be ed with the Quten's patent,particularly as the tYS/ twtets. If he _,Tt,"y,1, land worth latter weresometiines more talentodrnen. A n- l 2:4 (TO, but had borrowed $2,000 upon it, he other reason for the introduction of this Bill , must pay the assessor the taxes on the, was tho unseemly controversy between the: whole "no.unt: The 82,000 ttt of e.ouPe Gciernuieut of the Dominion sud that of [ t'l'tritod,ditthtUttt, Kilo 1e,1f,,', iti for Untari ct' " , . e lor gage go . esuin nr- Queen: Jl'2'ri'i".'ne"' the right to ap p oiat sowed his:i passegto the hands othhe bor- . . ' . rowtr. an is in is possession. _ he ques- ri tltftt MOSS AT agreed i), " as (Pitt Lion of framing an equitable assessment law L . . no ma 'er rmspocttng t it' right ot was be set with ditticultiea on all sides, for applo'mting Queens Counsel should b3set- when one pcrsonimngines he has found a 'it/l/if, :efgltagsféogfd 'ite/tur/tCie/pst,' giicvsncc he {seeks to remedy it without his hon, friend that the debate be untamed iookirg at anu.t.her phaee y tlu, mu.ttr, lad till some future da 1 I may be advocating the doing of an injustice ' M CA , f y l unwillingly. He thought the subject should I d " yEllyN. _r98!etted that the receive the attention of the Government, (a ll of the Administration should have who should bring in a Bill for assessing thpt 31ml"? m the manner he hal done on this would not need to be continually being 323:]?(13 a 1,'eti1tiie'l, 2:19-30 glam". 'tts, ohanged,as was now the case. exercise of the Royal 'pl1r"llU/lci'tTltQi; th: Mr. FABEWELL held that the price of Go, ernor.Ctuicral or L'eutenaat.Govarttor mortgages should be deducted from the land and lo should have supposed that the lea'lei' and A tax placed 'dl on the balance, and tut uf Ber Majesty's Administration in this the person who he d the mortgage should be loyal Province, would have bcen the taxed upon .t.U amount of the .mor.tgtgy very lirst to protest against any He thought it was regurasdaasfair principle an." interference. with the prerogative. thstapermn should be taxed sseordingto With rtITtrd to the kill, it, woutt be my» what he was really worth. There yoremsny an", tor the would clause declare] that am things which ought to be set right in the law should be exactly "lut it had been -ment law. It was of the but import- iluru, was re prcccdorcc on the part of tttICO that tly! assessment yllt-rty' had refer. Qu, my, Cotucel L..." mm the pncedmm, given ence to election-hott/d be fairly made out. I to them in courts of justice. llo proeverled (Hear, hear.) to defend the conductor" SirJohn A. M Le Mr. CALVIN thought it was unjust to donald in reference to the right to appoint, in personal property and allow a person Qute1t's Counsel. He had removed any who held mortgages, bearing, perhaps, 8 por doubts as to the validity of the appoint- oen%to go free, In his opinion a man's PT. merlts of the local (lovtrnmtut by appoint- tona1 property should be exempt to tha mg the same gentlemen. amount ofhhisf indebtedness. lager the lit, Mr. CROOKS said it bad been u " l teiitlawt e ormerwas compe . topayt e by the G on, ment that the 'g','hde:'2t,.e tax whither the lender, Wished him to or not, . for the hon gentleman to pursue in the prer and th at, he held, was}: not_ Just. It a men ' mt instance was to discharge his Bill until a was sue.d for debt his personal 1"??ch w" l future day, when it couldbe discussed more out seized, and a man really (lit not own l fully, as the Government intended to deal personal property except beyond the amount ' with the question These Bills were quite of hie debta. ' within the province of the House, Mr. GRANGE supposed the case of a min Ind on their introduction the ques- uiviiiganote for land he purchased instead , tron would be before the House of a mortgage. Tho note, being personal l i. in a proper shape for discussion. property, mould be taxed. Why should a l _ F, new ibe taxed and not a mortgage, . t, "'*'"' _ CLr"-r:'r-gg,t.terase-e.r.rr: . .-_:_._ L.C?C2 SertT..T.t .22 -l, - - ) -. PU

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