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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 3 Feb 1873, p. 11

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h be eecnct o s PED anderstood ¥87 that they had done their daty hithorte Gentlemen of the legal profess10f understood J . uty hitherto, C that when a written document is .d#ired in N:{ 'm ndon&" was over, that they f court tho;fid must be produced, unless hxd still done their duty, -- (Cheers ) * $ evidence be M of its loss or Mr. RYKERT said that about this Hfi f that it could not be tound after search duly mcymthoywmud.tfiymmrnn made for it in its pro r . place of custody. that he bad a scheme well matured, and only He noollthm&l! bfiiobflcod to $ to required a short time to bring it :into dpora-- | eonsiderable grouble and difticulty in order to tlon. The present Premier himself had adno;flmw:.mll «;m;l:y &A ;?ted pe:l the %:ctdou of Ox::lrd that the message Edn'ltwd he unicipal Loan Fund scheme had received his + ue'n?snic the office for transmission or :igx: carly attention. He should like to ask the 4 _oricipal messege in . cipher, The same diffi-- hon. rntlemm if he could not have got all oulty was felt in regard to other documents, the information he desired during the recess o investigations of long correspondence and ie?' nddremnfi circulars to the different muni-- | -- &n long suits, notice to produce papers palities, e would like to know it the in-- 3 was often not given in fall time, and in that formation the hon, gentleman was receiving wray a difficalty of proof often arose; and so | mow from deputations was of an adequate | in rezard to documents like Bills of Lading, | character. All that was done wasto hear these the :irfl of which wore sent to one per-- | dTP"W {? their crude ideas upon the | non the copies to others. He believed subject, then bow them out with the obser-- | his Bill would have a strong tondency to-- vation that their views would be placed on wards removing the present inconvenience. record,. -- Why was not all that done daring Mr. CAMERON thought that probably this the summer? f Bill was in the right direction as regarded THE §COTT MURDER. f telegraph messages, though witz respect y j the other documents he was of /bpinion u;; : ~Mr. FERGUSON said that as thera an-- f some auestion might exist. 7;, & purrg :)obe no otl':I_er bulguen on hand, t);e ; ill a Ar { wouald bring up his motion regtrdms e | .:lfi a PRI&&':?#&' .::1' lo::e.oifi m murder of Tfimmu Scott, though he had pre-- | hoh i 4 viously asked for it to stand over, The resola-- f now before the House might fittingly have h C a C : | gone before the Judicial Committee, which 2:'3' :fik:gr:::pz:%':: c';f 'gleogrr?gi;nogogl?:rd '; , AD » 0 « 3 | l;{':',:."n proposed by the member for North wise, upon the subject, or in u?mnoe to the n , After some discussion as to the ad« arresting or delivering to justice, of the A '. i ability _ or otherwise of sending the mardcrer or murderers of the late Thomas | Bill tothe Comiuittee on Mr. Ilyiort'q Mt" the Province of Manitoba, and in I | [. Bill respecting the law of evidence, it was relation to the award of $5,000 offered by the T ( read a second time and ordered for the Coim:« CGovernment of Ontatio during the past year | | mittee of the Whole on Friday. for his or their mrehemion. The speaker | s u4 w said that he been in hope that some _ GOVERNMENT BUSINESS. other gentleman would have felt the neces-- s Attorney--General MOWAT moved that nity, and conceived it his duty to introduce | the House do now adjourn. this subject ; but the House had boen | Hon. Mr. CAMERON said he found up n sitting now ncarly a month, and there ' the order paper a number of Bills introduced had been zo move made. le went by the Gavernment which they did not seem ou _ to _ refer to the' circumstances diaposed to take up and pass, and tho House connected with the murder of Scoott, | was now ndjouminog at 9 o'clock. 'The im aund expressed his surprise that, though a re-- | k. rflt measures of the session were not yet ward of $5,000 had been offered for the ap. their bands, and they would have the gnhensiun of the murderers, no reference E Es time of the House that ouiht to be devoted ai been made to the matter in the sPeeo'h |_ to more serious subjects taken up with the of his Excellency at the opening of the f consideration of those Bills which ought to tlouge. 1,19 alleged that the CGovernment ) be pressed forward now. _ He regrottod thas and its friends had made capital dpoliticnlly | | the hon. gentlemen were not readly t> pco: out of the Scott murder at the ections in ' ccod with the business of the country. 187',1'i and said that there were members who M:, LAUDER also complained that th» comnech thor / l 9 9n t ediecd ; Cover C messares 04 o s more Al :'mtgge"(:f the feeling of horror and in ifiu- E ' Ti oed'm Th":" oountry / wohld tion in c country at the time in regard to r tiold _ the gon. entlemeyg responsible the Lrutal murder b{ rebels of a worthy and tor tiis dislay is %ho l Juc-- Dusiness respected citizen of Canada, who, because M ; s & of bis loyalty to the Crown, was exe-- | We had yet no word wi rospect to the cuted b i{iel d his inf ve i Agricultural College, although a decsision The llon'('mrabl:\x:ody of Or::;?:':e:u :tc lt'ht::; + y c 9 :g:i'o&" subject was promised early in the 'ast grand meeting, docided to take the ad-- wice of counsel as to the Government which f Attorncy--(Gioneral MOW AT gaid they had was reaponsible for the bringing of the mur-- act been so very long in session as to give any derers of Mr. Scott to justice, and the ground for the com laint that hon. goutle-- opinions takea wore those of Mr. John Hill-- men bhad made. IF hon. gentlemen would yard Cameron, Mr. D'Arcy Boulton, Mr £ compare the number of important Bills D'Alton McCarthy, and Mr. i S. Macdon-- | broucht down by the Government with the aid. The opinion of these gentlemen was: numaer brought down by any other Govera-- lst, That, from the time nfg Scott's murder | ment at this period they would find the bal-- up to the present time, there had been no | ance was largely in favour of the present power or authority in the Dominion or in (Grovernment. _ The Public Accounts had An{'of the Provinces or elsawhere,.except ; beenjzeferred to. Some of thom had been in at Rupert's Land and the Province of On-- ' the printer'a hands since December, and they tario, to put the law in inbtion or cause the | $ were pressing them thm'ifh the priating arrest of the murderers, none of them hav. t office as fast as possible. _ Most of the Gov-- mtg been sgince the murder in any of the % * ernument measures had beon Introduced. other provinces of the Dominion exsept the $ Rteference had been made to the Municipal Province of Manitoba 2nd. That 3: of Loau Fund. -- That measure of itself involved the murderers could have been .rrestefi b an amount of labour which no other Govern-- the proper officiais in Rupersy's Land by ment had undertaken. All partics almitted proper information laid under the uuthority +b; enormons amount of labour it involved. of the governing powers there, and th o ' It could not be disposed of in a day, or in & have been tried, or sent by the auth ':ire ' week, In addition to all the ordinary there to the proper courts of (5 nb" tabours which a (fovernment necessarily had, or Ontarlo,whiog had concurrent 'urindilx rion the present Government had that importaat for such trial,. 3rd. Thht at ull, fimc..;%n . question to mature. 'The chief part of the overnment of Ontario oftered the i ,3 difficalty, almost the only difficualty, arose of $5,000 for the murderers there ;e 3 f from the defaulting municipalities, and there power or authority existing in Onfi.:i x;g was zn absolute necessity to ascertain their causzse the arrest out of Ontario, or the o"l f eract position, to hear their statements aud within Ontario, or the .dminil%:'ati f'flb : | ¢ examine the evidence t.h:{ submitted,. The atantial justice, as by the terms ofnt: 'X t } f Government had done their best to briag passed in 1871 all jurisdiction ol every ¢ this measure down early and to have the description of felony, includi mov:d:revery materials ready. He knew that they had witted in AManitobe, was veeted 4 the courts f tost no time. --It would have been impossible of Manitoba alone. He contended fl:.oonrts 7' for any (iovermnment, even one witfiotwico goatliemen opposite were either forae: + their numbers aad twico their energy, to of the law or else they were tding '&nom' | have accomplished more than they had l * ple of the country astra mng Phay | atready done this session. It was the very they did know. It h&g boygn Nb 1 mature of the measures that rendered it im» s that an opportunity had been . aff 'dr::loured f ' possible to do more than they had done. Ciovernment of b:{nging Riel an':l Le ho Sit PC And so far from deserving the tauat that | justice, but tha f Lepine to | . * t they had not availed th E9| had been cast upon them, they had accom-- | aelves of that opportunity ul k | ?lnhad more than m!'ght have been expected | Y f f f rom the difficulties they had to encounter. Mr. . PRINCE thought that nothing so e Tae bon. member for gouth Grey had said tmuch conduced to the dofeat of the late j that the country would hold them rosponsi-- CGovernment as this Scott murder case, _ Ho f ble. w'l\,i: they wore glad to be responsi-- wak pleased to gee one of the gentlemen who : bie to a _ country. _ (Cheers ) -- They ©Tered the strongest cpposition to {the pres-- M -- wore qquite satinfied that the country would ent Qovernment 'mow coming forward and I calling so londly for the punishment of the /

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