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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 6 Feb 1873, p. 6

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" " 1" r...» Pre, " 'z" "r. 1,-1.1, EI , ' T *7, w4. 'i'edWr,r'h' ii't --"-i,' , c, " _ _.d1_ .eo/e' '_., EES' 111 t4' Mr, ,,uc. "10" a l y y . "PM , " ti "a . jojp' liG I' -. T .N", ',T':8. y' . 313,-. '._»;.<."'.3 than Conservatives. though he adnntted 311.1, - 1 I dongs" t Jtith ttte Government _ -....,\.1_1. If W it intimation by Conservatives. lie re- 25-71%, ll, " , ~1 , hand Ntuy sieve introduced insuch an under. it 1 'd terred to e'townahip in Peel where that was l, _i,,'trij'i",d 1". 13. , " 1 3 Hr M 1 . . ,' 1 done. ' ' . 1 '3 ',r,rr,ift':lr'f'i,iiit,sl,, 11 ion; . "if?" mid that as the l ', ' 1 Ben. Mr. PNpm.-:1rtr may voted 'r 's'cs",'r"l" 'ttii-:':?.;, g Helm: referred to him (Mr. Renfrew whohadno righttol . . -. F " I'" .11 r . who had AIM, t"l'l'l'er,it1,1,,r, u the person l Mr. cannon said he knew nothing V , 1 he to "knurled thai, pa_mphtetq, lit was 1 about it. Whether any persons _voted who , ' . mm . . go the} he hid been inatra. 1 were not entitled to vote remained to be ' m their circuleti _ nude Mr RYKERT W on. 'gre, Ph, went on to argue te, war: . ---Wore ,- to ot eIetu'-ooersw .1 ' "ll ttr", , they Prepared in T r),t,?,iz?.ei','ti,',llitfi'iii? tl a. 2el,' °£ill§t3$zz .1. 1 on. r. LICK - . P. _ peo e. e ct, e iota. w j."~1' I Mr. i,1eirflcfllf,fe; hill in Eag1tas.1. present corruption. Corruption would tra' I A i, (r'iQ pl y our oifkse 't 0 prepared u, cease until every elector should be 00.890110 , , E Hon. M M K tgftttl to take tt ttef, unghezg . .1 r P. c ELLAR . . i tebeccm to anoa I not. m had not IN, 'dap;lig2lt,'ai,hT, he will not bribefdliitil he is prevented from q 1 , did not see it until it was printed, . Nor did I having organized, committees, and from hotd. I ' T he know at the time the pup." to which 9 ing any communication with the 0109"}! 0" a "P reference had been "itet4, in" bein ' cept y Ire-thins or We. 1"" 'lt: ' , k i in" tttd printed, "at P611100. fried: Cret canvassing was 'irrGiiiiiitisi1ttht1u ' ' a I I torn Ttttite intended git introduce then they could not prevent turnpike . 1 "d i a Bill a e subject, The observations If a man took a sum of. 1ta2tlt another / _ l he interim to make would be made entirely man to vote for a certain can to aid then ' ' tii 1 upon his own Mum, The question went and voted for the other candidate, ttw g, g '; was one of vast inportence. It was one man who paid the money could notssy "r , ' F which had not been considered by the Ga. thing. He saw uoreasou why the members , vernment, and he did not know what were of the House should not take " to do their 1 " the views of his "11%.an it, "a what- duty without tear or favour the as. " [ _ ever worn he expressed would be entirely members kt tho Executive qu'hgl: sraa i . , his own. m was freeto confess that he too much the customto deride a . who i, l ' " was wedded to the We", of the ballot. would not spend money in " election; he I in". hear.) With e view of obtaining Hm oaludlyneran, indeed of belugianmr- 1 ,1 _ 2 information as te it working in other puts I aged in the course he had adopted. e had ' " _ tl oftheworld,heeenttoOttawadui-ingthe' 'madeitastrictrulenevertoeliewauymon- . I) summer end not iesot the corres nd. ate bespentinsecuringhis election other 'l, P. , once that had "hem between the Elm. sulfur legitimate experienced he had been 1 , t Government and the Australian Colonies. condemne for his action by papers and . I I I 1! He was . much pleased with the cor. t by friend, ot the hon, (gentlemen , I 'i li I respondence that he thought it would opposite. The speaker ms refer- , 1 beproperto have it printed and pincer] in enceto the ao-celle Proton rut and V i the headset the members and the r... of said that hon. gentlemen w o had rl, , the country. m had not the slightest " seen no harm in the proceedings in South ti , .doubtthat 1ly'ru4tyyetyytmunei in 1Grey noree1.t.oGvoer,irttAtiet,tl I , 1 deciding gentlemen, in the House and out of have purity of elections. He held that it 'l, it, upon the question and in its favour. The l was an unmanly thing for a person to fl to , '. 1 hoo. sum" for North York had stated the polland give in havote secretly. here i ' that tit was no ("has in the country in I wee a great deal of bribery in vogue at elec- "AP, favour of such . fem". m (Mr Mo, 1 tions, ut the Bill before the' House would I i ' 1 1 ; Ken-r) dissented from that view. liming in" "with "hsting "WNW 'dt E 51:]; " 1 the last mg, hes did . good deal of Met. l Mr. CALVIN said that having had per v"; , I , 1 vessing upon the -tioit. a. believed _' soual experience on both sides of the line, l', dr 1 ho was in eight or nine of the la est counties ; he could "Y that theemt"T little money it, i i of the Province, and in nudging to the spent on elections in New York State, where l 1 t , ' , oorrupticns practised at elections, he he had been an elector for 30 years. He . 1" C': ' 1 aimed to the ballot as one of the could not say the same thing of this ocuntry. ' " 'i', i'. ' ' 1 remedies, end he never alluded to the ballot lie educated the abolition of nominations,I 1 f, E tl, 1 1 1 without receiving a hearty response from which merely gave Candidates eight days l (' h' [, r 1 the large meetings He was quite pro red time in which to corrupt the constituencies. A" l I , 1' tosey that mirage were aito JIT to If men in high atan 1ng ""2""? often ii (a ' . ( rrcrive the Bi ' e agreed with the ro- afraid to let people know how they were ir ,1? , 1 mark that they should devise - possible going to vote, whet objection could t ere be l tl 1 means for the "curing of . phrper exercise i, to let poor men have some safeguard? It Ill, 1 1 ot the franchise and of plrcing voters in such I the nominations were abolished the elections _ a 1 a position as would enable them to vote would be more honestly carried on. _ 1 mthcutfeer or favour. It was well known Mr, MACDONALD was oppel in pris . that intimidation w" Med. and that ciple to the Bill, and it was evident from the the . Bil? had become . grxrator ns. remarks made by the Premier that the meat. . Is a .ctyitr tn "on"Y"P"t of the eatatr . hereof the Government " a whole had no ' lialunent a manufactorics IN tho oountrr tixod olicy upon it. He, however, tttt 1 e where large numbers of men are employed th at the iritrodueer of the Bill was entitle to , Ri by one or two men who could coerce them much credit forthegieat painshe had taken in , , I 'r There were Railway o'ompauies who employ . framing the measure. The system of elec- t! '" ed "889 numbers o 11100. and thry know as tion, he held, should be or " present; the, , , apositive fact thatan undue int ueuce was I we pro osed by the Bill was nn'Britilh. ll r i! used to control their votes It had been and, he thought there was less undue influ. 3. found that the working of the machinery in once exercised at elections than was some- I 1 other countries where it had been in opera- an," alleged. He moved, seconded by Dr. I , ' , T non. and in our own oolonehad been satis- Boulter, that the Bill be read this (by six e Li i B, 1 3°??? rat? 't','u1TL't11t1,',l . 11......" months. . i l'. o e in e on introc uce by the t v . in an geo- . 4 , sensepf the icosahedral: taken upon the ed and needed. The worst form of corrup- , F, , _ Io'uestiou._1 his on. use would leave_it tor tion was intiruidation, which the ballot would , l the consideration of the Government. who do away with. This was an age of great . I would entertain the subyectnaiid, he hoped. oorporitiona,and . veryl number ot elec- 1 ' ' at no very distant period introduce a bill tora, perhaps. one-tenth om entire electoral i perhaps not_the same in detail but involving vote, was subject to the undue iMtusntto of i the same principle. (Hear hear.) these cor. rations. m instanoed throne of 1 . Mr. CAMERON said he, was not in undue .',',,'le2'l'l at the Brockville election on ' 1 1 favour of the principle! of the ballot. He did the part of railway corporations, and it was I i ', t' not think it was needed here. and he did , because they could not connect the IE not think it sonld do away with corruption respondent with this intimidation , The reason there were fewer elections upset that the election 'twats not aifected. In 1 i, under the ballot was because it C more his own county employees of the 'r' . dsifistult to detect bribery and corr'upuI n un- Grand Trunk told him they were compelled [l, . der the ballot system than under the open to vote against him. In - city a few ') , I . voting system. lie read an extract from the men with a large number of employees could i ' report of the Governor of how South." ales, l control the election. It was natural for all ' I in which he stated that he did not believe the large tcprporttipns and employers of labour ' I ballot would diminish bribery. Also from in the heat of the contest to bring pressure I] ' the report of the Governor of South ultra to bear upon those under them to induce I I [' _ lia, favourable to the ballot. The Governor them to vote as they desired. He believed l 1' . 1 of Queensland wrote that the system had the a perfectly secret system of voting would not FF ' eiUtrt of preserving order, nothing more. In only prevent intimidation but bribery as _ thie country. home", it was very rarely that well. With reference tt the reforms mg. than was any disturbance at the polls and nested by tho member or East Toronto, he 3 therefore the ballot was not necessary on that regrettei that when that gentleman was he I moonlit He thought the in ut manly course the Government he had voted down the prc '. te i ', was for anelectorto record his vote publicly. pose! of Mr, Blake to establish 1 ' ' I The plan of secret "thunder our eye. system of auditing election expensu. . . , _ i an would be extremdy gerous. Men He agreed with the hon. member for East l , i who were not entitled to vote were put on Toronto that canvassing from house to house I ' _ she'essessment roll, and this was donei should be prohibited, and _he would gladly 1 1 .1 E e ' - fat _ Cr

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