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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 17 Feb 1873, p. 3

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l ' ill. "a!" . _ e , ' , w , 'IFF:'? , A "i . . Je, " l "g-etstlemsn had do .' "V "s _-2,.'."ir, [ r 'rrt 'err,' KN In. "YonB principle. Pr . In. the his- i [viii-end . gitnilar 'ttS, th',.,,)', ltd if: "" ' j . . ' tory of JT,',"",' leglation in this Pro. tre, M to the one he made inth H nau non Vince be ex mom r of the Opposition 31', , held in his hand apaper withe unse, TIt ever Pretend to say that the sale of tun- f" , [_, 7, speech the revions S t rd . report of . in her limits, or of ftti"g,ltget or green of , V _ 'N mt- whi up a It " toh1sootti.t them should firtsttro ref to e House ' . T,.ea he d'en so proved that the assertion which 7 for it; "mention. Evenan honourable gen: d if? , form d10mins true. It he was correctly in tleman oppogito had said that, as a matter of __ . _ . cr, l in we ti 'tg hon gentlenutt was 1ntorUtel ' principle the disposal of the lands should _r'-iel db". m rtradix, though not ia the or . rest with the Government, but that on ac- J . the :5 891;!0 of 0...".08 limits, "d he found count of their armament ot them in thtt . f ticvl t o these hunts chvhad with hia PN' pastit was not safe to leave their disponl 2 to 1r,,ttet He only referred to this with them in the future. The Commissioner ./sd from T,,. at the hon gentleman spoke of Crown Lands, looking at the matter from _-va 11ptut 'ld own. stand-point, and nou astsndpoint which was best for the whole a ' h i c .menteof the question. He country made up his mind to deal with the ; _ a . something to say with regard to the h d '11 did dh rovedof his ulioy. __ "et' rr position assumed b tl ito . u ass 6 1 ,an eapp 'd '2 I reteren tothi y gen amen oppon In He could tell the member for East oronto T ,1 I I l e. d 'dl? ' matter. Tly.q tttiiisy"td, to T? that there were settlers going into the Lake V C _' 1 , be li fl couetry. iato the belief that the turn Huron territory now and that there were , ' b r imita, five thousand square miles, had explorations going on, for minerals. Wher- 'IA'; een sold out-and-out. (Cries of No, no, from . . 1 51 t there was ten = \_ the 0 amen) Tl h tl h eyera smge exp orer wen . . ypo . no on. gen emant on times as much danger from tire as there . - . or proof 9f his "at!" rea extract from Wouldbe from a hundred settlers. Atthough r 'o'/tt,0."i"21pPito',ik'pt organ of . speech the explorer was going out for his own indi, ladenbe' ' 'git In which he referred to the vidu a1 benefit, yet he burnt up th good deal / ' IMtt , . of ground in order ta teat the surface I Mr. BYKERT--DM pm hear me ttay Within twenty or thirty years we should . that 3 witness railways extending into that district, ", Mr. FPsA8ER-Yes, ldid. and honourable gentlemen were aware that " ix I Mr. RYKftltT--1 never "id it. there in V33 or" bug" of a"? 350:" -: , l. ,. .. . m. 'udiitriotwaanotanu"e'"" n, 1.t, i Mr. l'hASEli In continuing his remarks 3.1:le d be r amemtrered--there were many 4' . said that the statements that one.thlrd of the . euues to it inviting settlement tttd , public domains that had been sold by the the Commissioner was aware of. this. u' , Government were made with a vlew. of Then in re "a to the pilUgiag _ misleading the country on that point. and ' lunderln g of timber tho honour- . The remarks of the member for North iork 'iti2 Eur-mint for South Grey'had stated . ' were t, ttL',tt"'C"ie; tThet,Olrr rug: that a raft could not betnken from the Gear- 1 I Tie'.'., roug ou e P"P, ry Io.' l 1' glen Bay district and across to the American , My raised by .tht leading Opposition ISI"; shore. Now, if that gentlemen did not know . I and he warned that the f,",.',','),',),'-.,.',',',',', 'l,", a; a the geography and surroundings of the conn- :. 11',1,f,",1vt, e: ','t'l 'l','2',rl. re ti"; 'le, ', try up there, he (the speaker) could tell him " l t e uncrnmen , an en ettvourt' o me. about it. At Elpins on the American shore . i," rut that their conduct one not .nwhat it ; there were in 'iriiiiUG which much time ' Eh l oughtto be-without 'r/ht,'..'?, to the interests 1 from the J,2'ld had been taken The: T I of the. people. (Hear. . H" ) In thu "we was also on Sugar Island, in American ws- -r . I '3"? it ought tti2ij,1,tttaut,',hrtcd tors, a mill which had been supplied vith ; "a; J./t't',h'.ro'u' t; j'/u'd' wu 'll' d 'lt', logs for the last twelve years without paying "l #1 j ' 'h . b d lie ti b., a dollar for them; and on Manitoulin island " " l tin-ill) we 1tl f 2?.ttat1'l 'i" i1'iit") It" i there ware mills on the Indian lands there, l an": 'l',,",? hour: ":3. 3:13;: "i',oi'i'dt't' , our which the Province had no control, and I , F ml . ' l J rf y ' to which timber had been taken trom the . . l, 'r'gpi.1"'Je1ttito,'i'i', Mt also to at15 utur- district. Afriend of his, when the timber _ reg'u aliens that might be nude. sale was coming on, explored the canntryand . .1 r Mr. LAUDEl'v--The hon. gentlcmm is found it cut up very much, so that all infor- Ili y t , wrong there The Government have no motion tendedto prove that ngood deal of Ill l' r powr to restrict any of the licenses. timber had been taken from the district. . . . l I Mr, N .01. r__'l'hc 'loosrnment have a ring" Why, even in the Ihs,1,1trye district at one 'i i l to undue any conditions they plus-3, l time thousands of dollars worth of timber , _ . , , , , . , , had been stolen under the very nose of the .. lur.. r)! lHiR -t,u,xvetoutr1rzsbvvl thtt Government How much more ditiieuit . l " an irdividaal got 20 0n0,000 Cet of lumlnr o id it be io rotoct ro rt in the 'iitti'r' a one your and tho Government thought tint T/let, territogy' 'clll,t,5'rr,lh1, gentlemen ll," _ "ilgii'lfwh'l they "op 'eiy ho.n tak. said it was a ltry argument that the Gov. _ .. 111,, EU mun 0 cl! A acting your . "vment coulynot protect its lands; but the Mr. y'coT.T-rPractteily the (invcrnvnent question was whether it would pay to do so; V r, iroull uo so if it were thought Lisirable. in whether it would be best to stud a . l it were; thought VOW and gist that tin small army of ofiieia1t, there " a , l quantr y got out o a mum territory shoal! . l he nurtured. HV Govcrnav,nt oauld pass an grit: f"tr',',t'allfg "ll :30 tt tgf; _ Unlarin Council, setting forth for minor: and}; thousand dolls" a year by dig. l ' year. or any number of years, sin-h duesa. osin of the 13116., No Governm, out had _ would preclude timber from being git has! 'do,'.',', information in regard to territory l Mr FRASER, after this interruption, sort which it WI! about to ser11 than the tmmsnf ', . it "will now be seen that the lumber: s were one bad when it put the Lake Huron lands lt ' ' :ubji at to the regulations existing and th no into mnrket. 'L., that might be made. He Ji,1 not think ; Mr. LAUDER--'rho late Government, be. il more could, be exgected than that the (lo. fore the Is in Muskoka, had all the lands neurons? if?" no tho control of the .uyveyefnd a report prepared. r' . um wr um 8 rom year to veer. The dues _ , ' F ' ' _ . Mr. y'ttin---Yes, Mr. Judd was sent rl (.l'Uir! be increased should the Government It about three weeks previous to tut sale, mad it near-33am; and the hurls, nntml o' aird came back with an gxooodingly useful ' to s t . ... ' F, ' . . , . l ug , clf hutfimd out, mm M: ll on lee the report; stating that such steamship had bet. e ti,.',',",': 0 ft "gg,noa:'euhy,i,tl1 rllslurd vo tor timber than another that there w" . ' , we masons or suppo ms 0 so 6. a con. . . . ' sidered it was nearssary for the purp 1303 M little more nine here than there, and so on. l ' sittlement. There was no greater induce. Mr. LAL DER --PraAlo the amount per I I ment to settlers to go into any section of the square mile was realized for these lands, than l g l country than a knowledge of the hot that for the Huron ODM. 1 ' as " the mmberer u is engaged there. lie referred Mr. FRASER -Yetr, because they were a . i toa'letter wind had appeared inthu on; in nearer tho market, rod they were better i , a of the gentlemen oppmutc, from the Ottawa limits. Lambermen knew what the land was l l correspondent of that paper. proving how worth. and the competition sent it up. unm- l kr , valuable the lumbcrmen was as the pioneer brunch always ran up lands to their full 1 . I of scttlement, and also to a petition from value, whcthur the Government got infor- I l , Lane): and Addlngton, to show the dissutis- mation or not. The settlement M the coun- l faction "18mg from the tust.Uer praoerding the try ought to be encouraged, and all the valu- 3 r' ", lumberer. Thuotmon pointed out that the alik- arable lands should he opened oar, and, i , Government h aasuausd thts.propst 9"" understanding this, the Commissioner. ire l ' " l new 'eettl.ery '"9 already goiog into ths stead of looking " the matter as a local one, i, . Huron district. iooirrd mm. it, as one affecting the welfare i It being six o'ciock, the House rose. of the "hole Province. and wisely deeded '; . After recess. 7 that the y",.t,ett.,el, {no "It: auder 'e,',ti/',ug':i',e,ti l y . . that taunt" in e . no money res 1 e. _ inassessment-zeros :3me tale vuond Iioal,il,' .. ttttAe, \. . . . t "mums er cent in Most. . " l ieee,,tfiit',20itl0 utTl',,oQ,ivte,',roP8,'2t, d 'a','22l'trj1 had ',l',tffd'i 8600,000 for the T p an be n ith raid i th H ts, public treasury, and the country would ia. i t". an "f,dTe'l,1Q'f t,' e rt til: the in!" . cur no expense on behalf of the protection of ', r. . . there d "all: ldbe tl',' f . Ill,',',','?,,',", 0; than: lands, while at tho same time settle- _ ' "Chm ' Itll T on rem. . eoontro merit Would be encouraged. Those who of the Government. he op po 'tlie/tdi,',' were alive twent) years from now would see . I "In there arose from the fact t a . P" thriving villages aud ind a,str'.ottt tsottietnqata A; ' lands were set up for [invade com tition, in that tarritory 1aud the Commissioner, see- . l not because the sale itse t was based upon a I _ _ ' 'i""'"')"'";

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