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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 20 Feb 1873, p. 2

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-e "Wwv' m . I . ' "r V . 'mda erfectly inde endent oeition 3' - u... l motion was lost on the 1tT"gg",tgldi them, Ti was impossible forpa ltllet,rg to 1 1 52. m W" not ht. are . the Common " avoid having all sorts of 'ilC,Wd and false .ttmin 5". hrong 2t a. ties ma "7 motives ascribed to him unless he would it may have his!" " 1'd'hl','Sl'i tinned. isolate himself entirelv from every individual soughttohe cttet 'ere d d .'°::. and community He must isolate himself entire. ' Be gead the mle " mg??? wut', 1y from every business relation it he was to . 3:93: mmeioofoauy Ull',,',?,,',',',,';')'),' (scope those esperrhions ot t,",ttg which he . f' . . wusso toss the pubc rose 8 _ m Private B."l p-aotlooy even t"rd that ready when]; in. He mafia 1l2"Ltt partner {waved all 2','d'dri,t,Tpt Tht,' ments not with tho view of arguing the and the member " d'" fl t g. labors general nation. He was erfectly content F , thought tU mlt aheul .99 y t m. to Jie/Jil',' any rule which this House might C l who received . fiprdytm ttig/hd,', 1'Jl'd',t la down; but he went farther, and felt Yun. l , ship, Whm'" the income 0 the par a". self rfectly able to lay down a rule of hon. 3 y ship might be . , , . 0mm conduct which should protect his _ . Hon. Mr. CROOKS said the rclo.utiou conscience and his honour without the necos- i pointed to the legU firm of whioh he was to _ sity of there being any rule of this House. 1 a certain extent . partner, epril ll 'ho/lt,'. Mr. BETHUNE referred to a charge i , legal firms who yen practising t'm Oo which had been made in the press that the b , route and who might hove occasion, o Slt" fi m " Blake, Kerr a Bethune' had received 3 " act "Dim" tn CotMMtttttttn t"h .Pris. th' 'Ill tho sum of 8250 for conducting a case before ', , " before the House. He did tt "in, bu: I' the House. The statement was inaccurate. ' (' purpose of myth: the "We" on o . ' '3" He believed. horrever,.that on one occasion l l i)rinciphtsomuuh as_t_o inform hon. go'". t only: Mr. Kerr or Mr. Samuel Blake did ' men of the-true Wm"? which .he "out?" not " counsel before a Committee of this in connection with this question. "l'd' House, but neither Mr. Edward Blake nor entiemen who "m moattrers ot the tat himself (the speaker) was in any wise con. garIinment would know that before he bef corned in that" matter; it did not fall within r "the t meiaber of this House. the. mm: the scope of their business in any way and which in "n' 1mstutrtr had 000"" to": hey received no remuneration for it' In employed as Parliamentary agents_before e in." to Mr. Edward Blake and himself, he Railway and Ptivate B.ilits Comtnitttsos, ane felt that this may should be distinct! he had on many Tcert'" appeared a coin . understood. and that it should beeleared T. I , set ""3923; f,i"gg"2,t1t ihht'h,l,"ltl't In reference to the action before the House, t't'd,1Vle,,", several matters pending in his 'i, . he could refer tohlt tr from suysezsongel ottice which necessarily involved applications y cowuu.ra.tiou, for a we pen 9 to the Legislature Upon, his election. he st I engaged in any matter of a private business understood thoroughly the altered po nature which might come before the Legis- once hi h he occu ind with regard I l lature. He did not, however. accede to the sitter: w " pt He felt yro riet of the rinelple for which his hen. t A,'",utgA, Wing}, reputation, this F,,,',',', 1'2ill Ineds contended. So F TUI as a duty which his election had long 1'srt,tT1, sttit,',tti',hrri'hLgt 'dr 1'tiyir/gig'e,",tultiel, ttet. igtzmedyhvalnh Lhf,'eil,"tl a rule that the l new ai,'id21'ttiditrt,i,ut,'g',gc,ifth'i, I newcomersmmm: l wise, wit 3 . , . tirm of which he was a member .h"S,g/,"d.r ', 2m$?r:i:wtrirc:$rlhx?;hmé 3"" been Rtneot.tng. It WM. £33m; l irc;, individual bemstit, they would -amatterotdi.tinct arrsngemeut t f I 'l to dissolve artnershi with mom- partnership should be ie,t,1pdi-ttt, lu,', l big: of their Pam hid ding seats as "'7 interest T." ',',1'J,",'dhrl w 'K sub; lnthls House If such wss then-ale very ..'_ vHtnirdir'.tp, tmd, ti.t.he.r upon. 3, 'll,llu'llt, few legal gentlemen would accept iiLii in it ' atanee, with "Y Bill. be ore any tter be- the Iggialature. They gave a large portion or before tho House, or with any m.to be an I of uluable time to the public servrce, " the ' fore My of tho d.cp.artenottHtysro w"; hi i l "crifice of a very large; amount of business i absolute dissolution of the par 'dts'd."r Jhiplyrmight I: of le tl gentlemen on ( That .di"olu.t.iou. took place , 1"ll'h'Loi' I both sides of the goose. it was proposed fact. Est'ry client ft.rrw!toyt the!) lure on! of to carry the principle to a very unfortunate dischugwg professional IW,, ti C swam that length. and he could see no necessity for the l the Committees. was per 0° Ltl',,t what. enactment of such a rule as that sought to: l he had p.o Iey.tger my Ji2'el','i . so" tar be adopted. It might lead to cases of hard. 1 ever "in, this M" lt :d livery one ' ship, and therefore, unless a very clear case l " that hon-mere was "we? . ch besides! could be made out for the necessity of i of web Cl" nta bnew that barf." of Uattan. l passing such a rule, the House should hosi- I they had to look."l°]y to t if {an firm of into before doing so. A gentleman sent to aeh & hPwmil!, ind t . h had not I the Legislature 6trghttokbatain from voting, ' Crooks, hing-mill , S.,tt." That was or possess integrity enough to vote, irre the rlighttat tNoneetiott 'lt/ . ted upon, stptctivts of his Partner. in any matter in 1horooghly understood an All' claus of which the latter might happen to be con- throughout. . The proceeds o edto did not corned specially. The rule laid down in humid! mhich had been refer.r tsot the 1830 applied to members of the House of . in any '8) form a part of the tlt."' nor did I "ominous in regard to Private Bill tactics; . tirm M which tte IPf a 'l""" w, I hut his honourable friend proposed, new to those who paid for this ""1" .1','er,", that i say that s member's partner should not they paid to tle firm of which tt was a , engage in such practice on his own account. member Anything which Meaara. .Cattan- f whet control had he or any other gentle- ach it Kingsmill received they received for t nan over his partner? He might, of course, , . their own use, without let "a "y "mum" make a bargain before the partnership was T T to receive it " membam ot 9 firm of "In?" termed, and in that way control him. or the _ he w" a member. Not only that, but m agreement might be altered afterwards; bat , ': wseder that he rpight make. them *PP, com the rule Would not unfairly. In the case of ' _ pensation for the I?" of h" time which any! two or three large firms in this city it might niece-wily nwty'msd Mt oon*N1uentN o operate very hardly; and it seemed to hun H. putlhe dam," he made them an that the House was not warranted in going additional allowance out of tho returns." the further than had been done in England in . ordinary business of the firm of (goolklyf this matter. 'i 1hetth', tgsnill'xtlledt 't,gttVttiadit M r. WOOD thought the motion went too _ int aria in such business, Je want far. Be d.id.not. see why aperson mightuot a ate further and gave additional al. be engaged in doing counsel business in a l ",3. to his partners for the loss tirm doing Parliamentary business without 'iwtime involved in the discharge of his being in any way biased for or against any oublic duties. m confessed that his own I Bill in which the firm was engaged It had ', firsire was in the diroction of "up?" a never been extended to the pro.poy11 length siticu which would free him entire y from in England. ll the motion carried the pnn- _ T, business relation whatever. Since he ciple must be carried further, and a rule became I member of the House he a)" 1'0;h 3:32! "tVo Igue°?:il'xy pezgon Jie, trees" 2'gt',i,1.'t,r1ie,',','tti,t';t corporate My Mb W', member of this, ' for {snowmen by im ioation it might be House, exercise any power of discussion or said that asamembsr 'gltitt' .House and the voting in matters relating to that corpo- Government he occupied an inconsistent pe ration. . _ one... He had gone farther: he had had Attorne General crown? said the hos. I applieatrattr which would have been attended mover of the resolution asked the House to _ vnth largo, pecuniary advantages, but ailirm that it was contraryto the usage and which he had "fused in any .19" . to custom of Parliament that any mfmtyr. of accede to for the "f ry "we. cousulerltlon. the House should have a partner who ll pr ) He was asked to act as standing counsel. for cunisrily interested in any matter that he two railway companies which had obtained may ""380 before the House or any of m , ' their charter from ,his House. - Other mem- CAsmggtittatta. He (attormsrthmeti0 da. f bers of this House had ttttl "mm" nied that there was any such usage. The hon from such railway companies. at hehad do. gentlemm had not cited a single word from slined them on the ground that he wished to l m book or authority to show that there was him i. --tt_--------..--------------,

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