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es is y . d yee S e " 0 o en e S . e ) e a & *4 ng e lb i. P M Sn y t s l en M + mh"lflfiawfin' [ en eppigane? remadtemes ... > > : : _ 1 €510,000 yearly, and with the new ones _ _ _ F t / <> . both sides of the Honfe'::.s'&}::' :::: 000 0 N¥ _ | being erected would bring the cost up to *" ut ) l L es thing should be dorne to ameliorate the co X€ ---- e hok Hatho:fl:t y eflnnm Aus 1 § /. dition of thoze who fell victims to intempor. | be decreased as much as possible, and if this _ _ _ _ | _ _ | . f e ance. They only differed as to the m..ff to | _| new experiment must be tried that the first «w i o ~ M -- P""flf'ed The Government believed that | _ . | attempt should be made in g reiited building. | > _ _ _ _ 6 _ it was better to buy to buy the land, and erait | J Reople were anxiqualy forwand to Sho ~ > e ~ wlle a building. while gentlemen opposite thought I report of the Committce on the Liquor Bills. | 24L y}_'* 3 a § that a building should be rentcd, and the ia-- ! ) Mr, RYKERT said that the temperance ~ * l 9. stitutlion opered on a small scale as an ex-- | people of the countrzy' were rather in favour it > ? 2 periment. -- He fully believed that they | of baving the liquor traffic abolished alto-- | e e s i should be cautious in incurring new expendi-- | gother than having aninebriate asylum. If P d o pe" ture, but this was no experiment, Such in-- | the Government would make men found ~F ht -- stitutions had been in operation in the United Te 4o o poe oo i is o iintinem, d 8 and had in every case been successful Nes go through hard labour as a punishment; j LAU . mnfou maintathed that instead of | instead of sending them on to a hundred-- j s spending a large sum in fitting up existing acre farm and allowing them to play wgt : buildinge, and paying rent for thein, it would the gentleman, they would strike a blow & / i d be better to build an institution of their | directly at the evil He alleged that the ' ... own. 'The land which they proposed to | demands upon the treasury were already vory 3 purchase was worth th h 14 | reat, and now it was propos--d to spend e P e ipd "OWe | gnesnoomslaooow lesbrinto seyiim j i w for it at any time. |'The mem ; The { o for an n opiate Sn , &4 Toxr South _ Branut : bal _ an.| eGovernment had a large backing in the it : ueavoured to alarm the House with House, and could probably carry whatever y 1 | the idea that they were going to burden the measures they introduced, but he could tell f country with the establishment of this insti-- them that direct taxation would have to be s tution. -- He (Mr. McKellar) maintained that resorted to before very long at the present ' the Government would not be acting in the rate of exfi.endxture. We wanted a techno. f. interesta of the country if they did not muke | logical college, a school of agriculture, and . | the traffic which created the necessity for | euch like useful institutions, but not an in-- c this institution pxy for its establishmont and ebriate a,uylum; and, notwithstanding the maintenance. -- He should be sorry to throw Treasurer's statements in regard to the work-- h a burden upon that class that would bo un-- ing of such asylums, where established, ho is ; fair; but K:.thou ht it could easily be do. knew of men who had enterod them and had | Bry mobstrated Mtgey could boear the addi-- come out woree drunkards than ever. He t tional burden without feeling it. No | thought the suggestion of the member for ; Ms class of people could bear it better. If he ' East Toronto was a good one--that the Gov-- h was correctly informed, the number of li-- ernment should make au eyperiment first of $ cepses now fsued was in round numbers about all as to how an inebriate institution would a 7,000. _ If thoy were to place $4 additional eucceed, and then deal with the mattor on a f V; ugon each of these licemses they should be basis of actual observation. The feeling of able to pay for the land and the erection of the country was in favour of putting dowa the bni"mg and the maintenance of the | the sale of intoxicating liquors altogether, i § inatitution. _ After the expiration of that | and not of providing inebriate asylums _ He .o time----assuming that the licenses would not | would, therefore, vote against the resolution. 6 increase in number, although it was likely : Dr. CLARKE (Norfolk) rose to reply to a F they would increase----the ufdition of $2 upou | charge made by the member for East Hast. ' each license would keep up the maintenaace ings, that the avewed friends of tem. wl : of the institution, without any burden upon perance in the House were doaling | the rest of the community or upon the con-- in bogus legislation. Now he could F solidated revenue of the Province. It was tell _ that honourable geatieman _ that !' to be remembered that a large number ot the it was not his intention to push his Bill pro-- | inmates would pay for their own mainte. viding for total prohibition this session, but | | pance. This was not an experiment It be wished to test the feeling of the House on A | was well--known that institutions of this the subject--to see if it would reflect the J ' kind had succeeded elsewhere. It would sentiriert f the general public--for temper.-- not be a burden on the country, and he ance men wauted to know who their friends ' could see no good reason why any member | were. It was to be seen whether this Legis-- fa : should oppose its establishment. 'The Gov-- | lature would wash its hands entirely of the eroment bhad not considered this matter, but liquor traflic. But so long as people here 4 his own opinion was that the Governmeat went to foreign inebriato asylums, it would y I would take a wise precaution by lovying a be acknowledged that we needed such an in-- §° rate upon those who are vending liquors stitution here. He was thoroughly in favour for the maintaining of this instituuion. of the resolution. From the statements $ He hoped no one would be led away by the made b{ judges,clerks of the peace, coroners, $ cry that we aro being led into debt. The and police magistrates, it could casily be £ | hon,. member for South Brant had grown elo-- seen fi)w great were the evils that flowed 6 | qngnt in stating that the pnbhc'b;nld:ngs we from intemperance. | have crected had cost enormousig, had cost Mr. CORBY said be had been informad s f | nearly a bhundred per cent more before they | that the hon gentleman who had just spoken were finished than they had been estimated | was interested in a drug store in Thunder to cost, He (Mr. Mcl\tl!ur) ackno wledged Bay, in which liquors were sold. f that fact, 'f"" contended that it did not fol. Dr. CLARKE replied that hon. gentle-- low that cvery public building in the couutry men on the other side had a knack in dealing + l"h'uuu.l be built with the tsameb'c,';r\lt;lcsam-slsl in secend--band storiee--from the Proton ith pro']i,)e; mn}agem?_n 'm'fi o e °°'t'h' ovutrage to the Elgin frauds--and now they . be erected °'.'"°' ";;"(;":; P"'%'l hi t had travelled to Thunder Bay for another. , Governor's residence had been, le p.n He would like to hear the authority for the proposed for the Asylum intended to be tatement made by the preceding spseaker 4 erected at Hamilton had been examined care-- s ' y yae P 8 Sp * inlly by two architects, who 'hid reported _ VMr. CORBY said it was the member for | :« y that it could be carriel out within the North Grey. nove figuare named. _ He had also found Dr. CLARKE said that he never had a f that without destroying the _ origin stcre in Thunder Bay, aud that he had design ore of the wings could be dis never sold an ounce of hquor in his life, He pensed with at the present time, theroby bhad notbing whatever to 'do with the drug ' f reducing the expense by about $20,000. If store kept by his sou in Thunder Bay--not 5 found nccessary, the wing could be built one dollar of his money was invested in it. .;l,(.' ' hereafter. He thought proba!)!y that this (Hear, bear.) * 8t t I would be the wiser course. The building Mr. WOOD (Victoria) did not think oppo: ' aY Tok | was proposed to accommodate 'lh.""d""'l rition would bave been given to the expendi-- | h9k f g:""'."' but perhaps for a time a less nam-- ture of $100,000, for the purposo of erecting | Loh . r might be taken in. f f an agylumn for inebriates, inasmuch as the is 6 Mr. CORBY considered bis business a Government derived a large revenue from the ' db legitimate business, and that it ill--became rale of that which had been the means of the ©2" WV\ : the Hon. Commissioner of Pablic Works to decradation of thoze who would be patients, (+ attack him. The hon, gentleman should Those were two parties concemerl in the & f clear himself of the Elgin frauds charges be-- liquor traftic--the manufacturer and the con-- ' NABA~ fore he spoke of others. sumer--to the former it was woalth, happi-- % Mr. McCCALL had been under the belief | ness, and prosperity ; to the other it renui)ted ' ' that the Commis«ioner of Public Works was | in poverty, wretchedness, and degradation. | L a temperance man. He (br, McCall) cor. | | He thought the least the Government could hP dially agreed with the momber for Brant | do was to provide an uglum for the wrotchod t ¥ that the evil shoulid be struck at the root. | ' drinker,who had helped to swell the revenue, ' . There wasa strong feeling in the country on the | It was contended that they were not finan-- ¢ { subjoct, and he regrottea it was no* the iaten-- | cially in a position to erect sugh an asyinm. A p tion of the Covernment todeal with the master This he maintained was not correct, and he { this year. He thought the Government was wordered if members who had opposed this 8e not in its expenditure lonking forward to resolution would oppose the division of the * the next ten or twenty years. _ The sources § surplus, He was surpriied at the course ) of income must diminish, and if tho expenses tak en by the temg;r:nce members in the 3 of the country were mavaged so extravagant-- matter. _ If it had been proposed to reduce . * Dgen it 1 ly great difficulty would be found in meeting the licenses to one half of their present num-- 4 s the demand on &, public purse. The ex-- ber the financial contenticn would not have p 1 penses of public institutions now cost over | been urged; yet that would have made a ; go d o6 S i L e B o e e ie ainrmnrrrrrrnriny ApTTETTETETTTEETTTETTETTTTNTTTT T en en i e i e