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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 28 Feb 1873, p. 2

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'orderbe dinchu'god. ' _ Mr. WOOD (Brant) referred to what In the nuifunn practice in reed to Inch mat. teu in the Home of Common, and tint war in acc- rdmce with the course taken by rho Commissioner of Public Work. on the pro- gent ocoaam. _ The matter then dmnned. INEBRIATE ASYLUM. Boo. Mr. PARDEE maid the mud "ding of the Btll to provide for the enab- liehment of tho-pied foe the reelemstion and care of home! drunhrde. Ha uid that thequeetion had beenfully discussed, and it bed been decided by the Home tint it In deernble that this hoepitel should be tttte, mThe Cavemen: believed the: " a on clout grounds or nrohuin the land and erecting a new initiation on8 tirely, and nth the exception of about eighteen members, the Home In in favour of that proposition, It 001' unlined for him therefore, to 'gtltt brie y none of tho de. tailed the Bil "ind this he proceeded" do; A volun_tery petieng would lane to alga be lest there f " . z-ugth of time not exooc ing two , _.'. a o l from report: on this euhjoct which went to prove that the - the cure: were not much more fre. quent then thoyhad proved to be we: become of tho wont of power to hoop patients in the ooyluro for o "tiioiently long time. The Bill provided that thooo who were eble to pay mutt do to. and before entering the initi- tntion . bone run-t he executed providing foe the duo p.) meat of the expense. of his mainteemnpei on long on he romoino there. The Bill eloo provided that persona my be not there oompnleorily. Tho mode of pro- l cednre woo prov idod by whiohon e petition to the Count Judge, oettin forth that . person I VII an i'l'dri'h'l dmnkorg and ramble to con- a request for su," Linn? ion to the 1.0.1.161. after which thc, i' "Mad tint Iutahould was en hnhituel chucked end ankle to con- trol himeeli, the Judge might enquire into the wetter, the pox-eon interacted having been duly notified." Both parties might no peer by oounool, end tho Judge, After honing all the evidence, wee to report t, the Pro. vincial Secretary. Al to the peyment for compulsory petunia tho "me revisions were made en alrendy exicted u to Kinetics - the Inspector of Asylum: being I trustee to hold control over the property M the patient. Since drewing oat the mum of the Bill, he had reed e copy of . Bill introduced in the colony of Victoria, endhefonnd that they contained, in Inb- atence, the nine providonn. A: to the es- cape of persoue from the asylum, only en ordinary trxrrreilhttttr. would he required, on there wee little denger of the inmtee ct tempting to Moaprr He would, when in Committee of the WhoU, deeire to make mine alterations in minor details. Mr. RY K ERT! thought that the Govern. ment would let the House know wh n they intended to do with the Bill. Mr. W04)D(Bnnt) uld he hull endos- voumi to obuinthe best information both u to the eucoun of each Institution, and u to the tarot of the inatitutiona upon the in- mtu. The evidence did not bear out a favourable communion of them, for it very often happened that than who went into them came out tenfold worse than when they went in. The "pprte of not: lama hon: were generally nude up by men with when: the toolunnuon olithe dmnhrd wu n hobby. like AiiGGiUUTai'" iriGi"iid' 5:1 the "Win!!! weaker ad VII moccding in " Samaria when he. In: ',,'aful to order by The AT'r0B'3RY-GutH!1RUs who laid them was no qua-non baton". Chair. Mr. MACDONALD contended that than who, and raid that it wan singular that the member for Snub Brant, Ibo" all when, nhould udduoo rule. of Parliament hid down by the leader of the 0th!" Gonna"! for the gnidmoo of this noun. Mr. WOOD exphinod that he had related to wbntlnd but: the praetios of both the Hon-cl ot Common. in Englnd Ind languid he haf - heard that pmtioe cum into qua-non. Mr. CAM ERUN hold that the Bill was ex- cet-dingly ohitsotionable. The money upon: on tho institution would be thrown any, and the good that would boaecornpttuhid would not, be oommonanuto with the ox- use. He wee "tUtiod it would cont Stun for eech patient, and no petient could be expected to pay mythin like that mount. " the Government hag been util- iUd with e cheep experiment he would have cemented, but toiling that he [wee 'ettttl to the Bill entirely He therefore mov that 'tg/lip"""""""' timethie deythree not e. w. MACDONALD endorsed the View of t H ___'v -vvu. you, "'le umcuulan on the eubjeot, because all the emumente were on one side. The temperance people l had exproeeed their. deuire for I the inatiiution, and he believed the , general eontiment of the pmple I we: in the same direction. The question as _ towhether theee institution: were productive of good wee no longer one of doubt. they had produced the meet bomr'iaial results in the United out", end he himself knew, end he believed other members knew, personally of cneei in which perenne hed gone to them from thin country and had obteineil a care which they could not hove obteined. by any other men- He thought the vies" ot the hon. member for Brant with regard to the expenditure were cxeggereted. Bat it they should tind, whet he did not believe they would, that the inetitntion we: not produe. tive of good Mtntttetttturate with ite expense, . they could otoily realize from the property the emount of its cost. l he hon. gentlemen eeid he would npprove of the institution if they could recleiui tiity drunknrde; but,frorn the result: of other eimi~ [aftytitutlons,'tiiy" might expeetto reel tim e much lager number in a short period. It was impoeeible for them to procure any until-tics u to the number of people who would be likely to he admitted to thie insti- tution. But they knew that intempernn " - _ V_ w_v..v-vu' JV. Ill-I wee one of the poeltione token by gentle-en oppoute. Reference had been nude to the late of our finance: u e reuon why they ohould not spend the money required or thin institution. It certainly would be odd, that in four yem they should-hove hit noon the enct number ot theee institutions which this country would died to eetnblieh. m did not think so. He thought the reeourcee of this country would warrant this nddin'onel expenditure. Our lamina wee oomiieubly lug: than it wee I your ego. and he believed no tter 'mr of employing it could be lug- E'eeted thntht prep led by thin measure. in hon. friend hid stated that populer feel ing we. not in favour of esteblishing this institution. m believed tint we: wrong. There had perhepe been very little discussion on the nubimt.' has"... .n u... -- -- -__- A we" of urbacoo, and sounht "prove tut from it. use amass nearly all dinner»; and ll [any )oubg penpmetl not giyo up the use rev no there {were in the country who would ll lchly to become inmates; and after all the money was spent the building would he nothing more than a temperance hotel. So far as the subjective inthuUx, of tobecco was concerned. in undermining the body end on- ervatin and weakening the mind, it was as bad us liquor. It he oould only be assured that fifty persons would be roclsimed by en inebriete Institution in ten 'ears-tus would go es feral one of old, who ssid, "surely the city will not be destroyed it I can flad ten honest men ;" and if he had the least hope that any benotiU would arise from such an institution he would not oppose the Bill. Even es it was he was willing to hare the experiment tried on a smell scale, but he would not oountensnoe the reckless expendi- ture which would be involved in corryiug out the manure. He had seen Governments be. fore to-de who bed done things which the people diI not desire, end when their suppor- ters went befdre their constituents and mm. . qnistioned as to why they voted tor measures not wished for by the country. they were dtmb-they could give no utisfactory ans- wers; and their constituents ordered them to be bound hand and foot and cast into outer darkness. (brighten) He would vote . the amendment of the hen. member for East Toronto. Attorney-General MOWAT seid his hon- ourable friend seemed to have gone wild on this subject. mu remerks respecting the supporters of the Government were uncslled for. That gentleman himself, though an independent member and under no oblige- tions to Government, generally supported them, which showed, he supposed, that they were generelly right, His on. friend wss a membc of a Government that estsbliehed sever-n1 ohnriteble institutions in this ooun- I try, How was it that the exact number of charitsble instiutions thst should be es- tablhhethn-d been established, yet thst of toha'cco, why should we not hnvo'nn inati. tuto for tobncco "when? m believed that after all tobacco wu doing more harm to the young men of the country than ardent spirits. The reports, to which he referred were written by men who were monomminos on the subject, and those were the repel-u on which the Lion. Secrehry placed such reliance an induced him to bring in the prev sent Bill. There had been no agitation for an inn-hide asylum in the press or the pulpit, ard he held that such on institution etgl. cost a million dollars. There would be 8i00,000 spent in ita ereotion, and about $30,000 yenrly in salaries to the gtstf of of. ticiahs, provisions. repairs, " The Govern. ment were rushing into all thin expense with. out . single report to Ihow what number ot

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