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. it P M'f e P AT Te m eP ol ind snn S perora uho * € -- --ligng tiaiy o sg e se l es o o e k 'eX e . -- . vailed andm it was u C a in n or -- i nefit, i) 2 t io nc re s e *hat producing enor-- | _' _ _ =--_ _ | "mised in some way for the public benefit _ _ l § y ~IY" : l mous evils, which it was their duty t% migh [ s *A eA C > t~4 ?h.:repom from Enghnd a.nx other coun: 4%";,3&5._., EC , gate if they could not abolish. The establish | _ _ __ ~i| tries went to prove that inebriate asylums _ _ _ > p* | ment of this institution was one means to | ty £8 were not necessarily places in which public. . _ f | that end, and as such he asked for it the f monies were sunk; on the contrary, they k'afi, <---- M | sepport of the House. were self--sustaining; and if the gentlomanly | _ _ _ | 4 4 |__ Mr. PRINCE said he did not know that | class of drunkards was to enter the lostitu« | _ ---- -- _ s the question as to whether the pressat Go-- tion surely they would sustain it. It was |. C ffg: B 4 vernment was strong or not was pertinent to unfair to push the argument about the excla-- i% V 3 the matter before the House. Ho agreed vive character of the asylam to such an ex-- o) ; with the honourable Troasurer that au treme, when it was so clearly manifest that | d & babitual drunkard was a Junatic, and ought it was intended for the use of all classes. 1st \ to be treated as such. If members woald was for the becofit of all persons who had 4 . view the subject similarly they would surely lost control over their appetites for strong on + . f sce no objection in the measure introdaced. liquor, not merely for thoso whose pockets * ~ap B:::i a lunatio for the time being, the were lined with gold. Surely it was worth p h d ard oufi:t to be contined until re-- trying to save men from becom'ng criminals,"~ f §8 A | lieved. He believed in keeping down the and reclaiming men who in their noimal con-- + | liquor traffic as thoroughly as iouiblo in-- | dition would care for their wives end fami-- | | f | stead of erecting institutions which were not lies. In the interest of bhumanity the insti | desired. 'The Government, of courso, were tution'was needed. No measure that could } strong, and might carry the Bill; but when be brought before the Houss would meet b they appealed to the country at the close of with .o'inr a share of public approval as | . the present Parliament, it was possible that the one ungzr consideration--an institution | they would not come back to the House so which would prove a bilessing to many un-- l atrong as they wore now. fortunates, aud be fostered under the wing of Mr. RYKERT said the (}ovemme'nt h»g the Government. s 6 not made out a case sufficient to justify suc Mr. MERIDITH supported the Bill, and / | __| a large expenditure, and he °"I'°"d the thought a distinction p?hould be made be-- : measure chiefly on the ground of economy. tween ordinary and criminal drunkards, and | | The hopourable gentlemen on the Tressury that diff--rent provisions should be made for P benches were rushing the country into direct each class | taxation. He also opposed the Bill on the * grourd that the sountry did not want an | Mr. BE THUNE referrod to the advocacy | iwebriate asylum. While having the highost by the hon,. member for Lincoln of the estab-- ) reapect for the Inspector of Prisons,he could lishment of inebriate asylums in connection : not agree with him in the conclusion he had | with all the gaols in the Province, and ob arrived at in secking a remody for inobriatos. | served that the hon. member appeared to It had been shown that ninety--five per bave changed his opinion since he last epoke | cent. of the persors who entered such upon the subject, Then he objected to the institutions did so voluntarily, aud Bill because it was oxporimental, but now | that 1,500 out of 5,000 had been reclaimed1 ; he was not only willing that we should have > but what evidence had we that these 1,500 one asylum, but that we should have 40 were reclaimed, other than their own words? The houn. gentleman pretended to look after ' Such institutions should be connected with the finances of the country; yet he found | | our prisors, so that the poor class of drank-- fault with the Government because they had | l ards should have relief. It would be far not been sufficiently extravagant and waste | more charitable if that class could have the ful in this matter by establishing 30 or 40 | benefit of such institutions, instead of grind. asylums. _ The hon. gentleman hai also | ing out of the poor inebriates all that could questioned the report of the Inspector of be got, and letting them go to drunkards' FPrisons, who had means of obtaining infor-- graves. The Inspector, however, did not mation _ which _ no _ other _ gentleman recommend that ; it was the gentlomanly in tho Houee had; but he (Mr. Bothune) class of drunkards that it was sought to maintained _ that _ the _ experience of relieve _ He could not adopt any such mes-- every gentleman in the House, and the ox-- sure as that before the House. perience o;] every day lite, proved the aoc«. os~ s racy of what was contained in the report of mMr. MACDON ALD said he would have to that offcial. The hon gentleman hs?i Tsd pport the amendment. He was in favour mmacé Teference to buncombe inoli hich of trying the experiment of an inebriate asy-- | smanated from that side of the Efx. o I:c t | . lum, ard had the othor eveuinfi voted the hon. gentleman himself made f Cauent | 4 t < * uent ' ; againast the amendment of the hon. tse of buncombe motions. -- He o'mmfi y ' member for North Renfrew, and in favour : to the House every day it h the hoe :h'": | of the amendment of the hon, member for buncomoe would do".omr.t,h{n for hip q 1; } East Toronto. He thought that charitable bad also alluded to the ¢e!--v %f the ('}l'oveme | asylums, such as the Deaft and Damb Asy-- ment, but ho (Mr. 2>>une}) burled back: lum at Belleville, and the Asglam for the the accusations of " 1. 2>--iloman ite, | Blind at Brantford, were a glory to the land. They, with their |--ncom 'o;*mo;op Po.'lu:i | § But no proof bad been given to show that wasted the time o! I~m«s. He h:l.' hbeen | the founding of those Deat and Dumb Asy-- | a good deal atruck s objsctiong offered | lums bhad produced the reclamation of drunk-- to the Bill under diss.< _:, but he f" d I ards, and hbe tbuught that until such was they mainly came / exiiugichivs ou& '- proved there should be merely an experiment related a dis ussion y > & on: I made by renting a building or adopting the of --the (llm'ghb'-n ;wAashibt; * in 3 asylum at Orillia. | If such institutions would Shich on6 --mon stuat incigoantly that | t cause the reclamation of drunkards thoy if be got drupk sgain ':.lg would be ' 1 | should be established, and no ons would placed igno the asylum C Another objection t» | S grudge a proper expenditure for the pur-- the'Bill. and . of a "similar ohsulohr was s pose. _ But considering tho presont state offered in the lobby by an indignant oobstitucut | of the finances, and tho circumstancs | to his representative. -- Bis main t thatl:.ih;o expenses of tll'xe proposed institution was that within a M after mu;:;::. wou ¥ a a » rripaarce, iak en o . Mo L objec | Rond o ng him within the ' Mr MKCAL ioj tf'dlt: 'll:". expenditure asylum. (l.ugrur.) ft was from such quar-- 3. | which the erection of this building and its | t th o es -- | maintenpance would entail. There was every ers as those that the objections to the Bill probability of a prohibitory liquor law be-- ocn;;. e h?m that it was an aot of wisdom ing passed soon, and then thero would bo no f:" t: pmfi :l" Go:ernment, their decid-- | necessity for the asylum. He acknowlodged [X ho Orien ol fopdens to which persons | that the object was a good one, but there Ti t n;_h tendency might then be were considerations which prevented him .-';h' ey could be sent to those asylams s > from supporting the Bill, without so much disgrace as if they were ' se . f sent to a oommon:-ol. He also contended ] Dr. CLARKE (Norfolk) said that in 1867 a | that the proposition to erect a building of | very large and influential meeting was heid ) the size inteng:d was a good one, and in five f in this city to consider the principle of the | years they would be able to ju acou-- t very question before the ilouse; and the rately of the working of the ungfi:hment | igL y clc-rg({mnd othor gentlomen of the bighest ¢ It scemed to him that it was better eoonomy' + standing present took part in the dobate. | to select a building of such a size, and if the Reroluticns were passed unanimously in building should cease to be used for this pur-- vu;mr of th: :lrlwt::n of m,xpebmtlel'a;ylnm; pose, he had no doubt it would be uucr for * and amon propositions which were other per i i ' conuinodgl:n t.th:h Sp:iech fro:; the Throne at Could .I:,pll'"fly 1s to which the Government * the opening of the House this seasion, none s t ts Poarded with more 'Infome than that wotk mad paaioren to ns ; ope which recommended tho_ erection of such ing from babitual drunke : evile aris. an ivstitution. The stock--in--trade of hon-- lieved that the cost of tfi:e::' lu::woulh. dbl:- 3 ourable gentlemen who opposed the moasure far too great in comparison wi:yh the adv o 4 was made up simply of two objections--one tages to be derived from it. He ha d':; w was the expense of the asylum, and the other, faith in the reclamation of habitual drunk-- T | a very unworthy one, put forth by the mem. ards, and instanced several cases in his own & | ber for Lincoln, that it was designed only for experience of persons who bad been in *< . s gentlemanly drunkards. The fallacy of such asylums of this kind,and who had afterwards oR arguments was casily scen. If the building died from the effeots of intem He P should cease to be used for the purpose in-- believed the Governmont would in two or , C B L tended at a future time, it sould be econo. j three years wish that the motion of the hon. J