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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 7 Mar 1873, p. 3

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. t--t- ----_- he" had no ' . -. ' F" WV" to thlssubject The hon gun that praotioall tttet/ dt of" / tleman bad suggested: to him no scheme, H askedth E trot) J V e e cues to abandon any claim it / apparently had not thought oat one, and had an asylum that leasesrtainezlh V he iAAtqruruersera's; had not (sit at libert of that oomputatiat. Ho q" 'llldlu'lre . to ask him for one Alter he had pre pared ' could not get more out those mu ole" l? [ the scheme which he was now about to bring tua which that rule would rovide 'll) qr 'lt down to the House he did think that it did notrneattto" were? id . . would be a great object to him to talk that all that. m 2a 2'l'hurlfgtt, even scheme over with the member for South the "no grounds The Aot, li, he 1','h 'll' Brant. He had, however, at that time we . . . l, I ' . . . provided that tho revenues that might bs pared the resolutions which embodied it and produced by the investments made by the 'ttit? have? tleg, the Home to con- municipalities of the sums that they had _ _ N er, an . L. 'lt, be" f""" F35 ttf, M. borrowed should be paid over to the Re. 't'f,"1ti"ge,,'d.' "t"'g,tt'd,1ilUtfegei'i'it ttg/tte, ttld2ift2o "w tire oe.rt.U l and if his hon. colloaguN who joined wrth 'J2't .3555 cooking": Ct 1,,tir2lt l hill! had failed in pro peril: such a scheme as .n a pbsition to enforce the law He thong: 4 would receive the approvalz of the House. the th tte . . 5- i hon. member for South Brant was to be rll'tUtL'"lu'l",', a 'd/IPM,' e.rttored it, ir charged with no part, of the discredit of it no: game", mng I'l, fl"d"ttl, th i The House would remember that no possible hat claim if thzre Ill a 2:030 t plan would be free From good objections. but n it which the had not ay blag In that the House and totuttry would N. able to enforce tle',,',.,, the loo tl' nuire from the Government was a scheme of fourteen "I... Be faked the 'li perro which, on the whole, was satisfactory. It abandon whzmverri ht the hm . 'lle'ldo. mightbo thought that some places received torrent. The 0 M,' . " m . u. too much and that some got too little " doin ffalr'g, if???" "thug!" bent-lit l the exact equity OILhe results " which the had enio 1T'1"ltfllh,ey/te,r T applied to the diirvreist places might ll onl 2fm,'ll'/l, any: th smug j ' not be seen. What he asked was that the ' 'ltd 1 t hiehg . a this: on f _ri.'..t,.1tg,t T '_) I House Would look at the matter as a whole l was ii, :3er d 'h'2'l no g use , --eltiott c, ' ,t . . . . " . r e etter, although it was far ? ; with all its complications and drflr.ultrel, from htsin d ad ltt . f . l and consider it in that View; and if on the d 1'l'h e . errn Mt " '?' it PP" , F whole it was satisfactory, he oonlidentl I cutie .t e Lr'lrl'f of the municipalities. l J called for their support tohis measure, which 2 eating "t 'd, It', oU matter it was s', he was sure would receive the approval of A",',?,,'.?, "I unison. r t " our populations the country- Some of the debts owed by the :re gnu"); bag". that "in" who are V municipalities were enormously large; some Ill,',', ll an m It "uuPnp rty were par- of them, behind all question, were beyond "I: omega bye". ago m another munici- tho power of the municipalities to PAY, ar. p . I; he had" persons it,'",','?)! to the k though if they had paid your after year, it td,'ll. y "f ld 1ltf 'lit, "will" con. v,': ' three municipalities had made that struggle JI' logo I h b Ill iron m 56 or. 59 which other municipalities made, ho thought h: now memhzdo y e I own "rum," . the thing might but"; been done. Underthe v4; '","dlfhl l ",','Si,r,2, The Govern. Act of 1M9 there was no obligation upon mflrltlh Won del' than" by throwing any municipality which it could notfahil; I' 'fd atnoun 'ei.ch he had spoken 1 r but now some of them were less able, with e .oped'thut ne municipality which would , the interest now due, to pay "Pv and he had recent: this benefit would be dissatisfied With ; I no hesitation in saying that it was utterly it. Jn some of the memorials 'that had been l l impossible for Bonut of them to pt . The .rtsceivtd/hoyrtmrr, municipalities which were i . power to par, no doubt, varied. 'd wool d to receive allowances under this scheme had F be estrvGei"y ditrieuit to compare one use asked toreceivea share of the, surplus l wi:h another of these various municipalities 'dt the rest of the no aUtioa ot the Pro. 5 and what had occurred to him was that id v . ce; but he thought e House would Agrtn i dealing with this whole subj;et they wrth him that when they received the mea- , should endeavour to find some rules that sure of relief granted to_them under this l, , might be on the whole just and equitable scheme, they mrght be gatisdied. m would i rules, and to apply those tirmiy to every mention to the House some of ttte fiaarm to i a case. ll Won" be a most 'imtatisfasto4 "Such" was Treg, to reduce the gab" by thing" "tyiioverumeut Were to undertake t e " cent alowunee. Prom Lausrk to examine the debt of each municipality and Ps,ntrey the amount of prin. l separately, and tocsamiae the citvtuttaturtei, y" and interest due on ..t'.e, let i of each "ruteicualir,y, and to examine the l'; January, 1873, W 83'0-368 96 , l objects for which the iii bt was mntractcl p " amount of tU reetiton to the town of i l, and then to dtcide with regard to each some: 2i'g,1',o,? Watt $26,40'i 27. But the biggest l l ately whether the whole debt or how much in", , all was the town of Port Hope, of it should be enforced. An atternot of Y on": e reduction would be 31,43398427; that sort could not possibly give satisfaction, (in! ti e "mum? of Ip?. " tly 'tr ; because different persons view the some thine 'll',',' "m would be $901.5, M; for i g from different tstandpointa, and come to ii'.' we town 9f 9rdt.rieh,, $4)!776 21; for l (trout conclusions. lint :vury'oorly could ye', a???" F of iiiirautuiMra, 8150,. l g understand a good, bound ru'w: and every. $2"; iiri JI", the town of Chatham, ' one could understand that. while there Were $169139. , and for the town of Brantford advantages in rules, we must put up with il' ('1 ".i 37. Iheae were pretty large iigttrtsa, their occasionally not working no they miwht I: tt mitted. Ile thought they were quite be desired to work; that they'muet ba firmly rge enough for them to. forage, but at the . carried out; and that if we are to allow any "me timo. lie thought with rogsrd to Borne exceptions to them these exceptions ahuuld oi the municipalities that they might " wall be founded on principles as sound an tho forogo them. He thought the House would rules, and which can lie defenriul as Well tbt' agrar- with him that the bost thing they the rules can be. lie had endeavoured ti could do was to lay down . rule and stick to ' Ind such rules, and it there Were any exeop st. It w". an essential part of any scheme I , Irons they Were such exceptions. The lulu that "I" plug." work effectually that they I l 1.iplett which he would ask the House to nruat'be more liberalto some municipalities adopt were few In number, and he thou Jtt tltaa co others, aud they must be careful thst they would Commend themwlvco to the 33M they did- not put tlys figures of any maaiei. muse of tho House. Ile asked tirat with polity higher than it could pay. If they at "yard to all debts which fire cents do the tempted to do otherwise the result Wruld be l _ dollar in 1859 Was not sulliciont to pay the that they should get Usa than if their de. , rnterostppon, to adopt the ptiucipli that wands were moderate. Everybody knew . i a, - on should be oegardedas practically that the reason some of the 'nuaieipalititss ' -cd to such tttitttrtottntagin 1859 would had paid nothing was that what they l .nre been the annual payment provided by could p" w" '0 short ot what A that Act in reference to the assessment o' they ought to pay. The town o:' l 1855. Practically the "same" of 1853 Port Hope was a strong illustration of this has been the uide, so far as we have in regard to all the CMtM he had read, it had any guide, lzrom that time to this. In would be seen that no more had ever been , but one or two municipalities who would b, rel-crud from them than he proposed to take "new: by that principle in 1859 has the," t/ro.u1 them. Ttut WM . moat important been any Inez-erase on the assessment of 15.18. thrng .fo.r. the Hotme to recolleet. ENVY _ 'l liithrr the memory has not increased in lyyticietity had been paying sums which l l, value or the Assresors have not found so ' dif not closed what they expected to re. In some . the t "I Giiiiiii"i"." cows from them for the future. There woe _ ably 'ld'r'r'tl'd t'lrll'"l'lu,'ll1,; Whit . no use, after_the experience of lil or 14 could be made useful for "um"... years ago. gomg beyond the rule of tire Dent According to the actual value. ' cents t.n..tlttt dollar. 'Gorernmeuts of differ. experience. ot the last lourteon years h w cut political completions had endeavoured to shown that' either the will or the power had collect the no", owing by thtyge munici- b... 'ranting in every Government that has palitiea, with the same result in every case, , been In powerto collect the live cents on the and he thought that any reasonable man 2 dollar- " the Document of 1858. What he would say that what no previous Govern. r "a the no". W". what was the use of snout had been able to do it was useless for , m hardening these W910 with the debts this onetoattempt to accomplish by hostile _ a)?" against them, and which stan d 1itistatims. How could the money be col way of their ti and getklt we do not 'lh2,T'S1n which

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