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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 7 Mar 1873, p. 4

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I' , ftaarrs- Tot them rnf",,5i2,if coirr% it would be uni; improper that the"i l. i O ttte 1etthinarrr, provided no munici ailty should'retain this and only pay . and they would And that it mud 814 .03 He therefore proposed to ask the i . Itterl! "i1- 30 "My expressed iGG in this and similar easecto enact that tt I his opinion that while earned the muni- the Governor in Council should re mire that , L' ' "Dilation omtid Pr, more than VII prom the security be handed over to the Govern. I ll, 'ttt scheme it, they 'ttttttto do it there "" at. ' l I ....:.: 3.2:: exhumation": tte, My TtyKERT.-mw about tho tnout'y l , side might point out that municipalities 3:21.: neared by Brantford t ' I may more, but the Government that they AttorrarrG'enera1 MOWAT said that he . . supported had been unable todo better. lad thought a good deal about this, but ' , . a some cases the Apr.ea were la but the ilifTioutty of working it out seemed toybe . R" they were merely normed, and the E',,,,',",','. tio great thnt he had mar 0 up his mind, with ' ' its: was really surrendering. nothing but a an": rt luctance, that they teyluea2ir-' C, ow. a name an ooU. Mm q ._-. '53" - "N" i _ itt 'lhem were sum; munloeliitziti: 'd",':",'.',',,',, abartt!ost 2,iiitt Jules of "a" it? I new less able, to PV they "n in 1869; eonpderatlon 0 question as to w t m d . and it the Government were to attempt to 'l2e,ttpfdre ted', . 'at" tg, h ed . . "for" payment there would be no IOILIO- all?" . win?! in rd in SS g I meet at all. What, he asked, was the mea- t'll,'l'hl'"l,'rd y, some "' t' three! the capacity of any municipalityte tit here interest, and 'YP. had mini". l i',il "3 t Wee there any rule over nooznized or gtpr, ot. it that they were in1ireottr would ' adopted by the Legislature on that point? b . y .it: Be hoped the Home ", A 'l he question was one that had occupied .eahrtin ttd what was very important to a a large amount of public attention. as" th "ttt ding h of . "m "It?" Municipalities sometimes, under extraor- h 1d . qt ta t ey proposed " I dinary circumstances, taxed themselves very I"? wipe . out were sums that , highly, but he had no hesitation in saying B neyer tuided. .ut. .oounttr anything. ' If that the measure of taxation provided. that Watt,', the municipalities whieh had bor- I iatwo cents on the dollar, was as high as 2°: rem the Municipal Loan Fund had they could afford to pay. But it they im- 'lllf "t debts reduced so as to be manage- I poled a tn of two cents on the dollar for othzr t nil',,',,' but right that Elle . 'rl the purpose of enforcing municipalities to u had the? Ion'. of the Prorittoe which pay their indebtedness to the Government, ti . h 'hull/r, in those some all the _ what became of all their ordinary expmzli l irl'd'llh"l r'yetyP"ttoPpetiotr Thu . b' tore t--the, must provide for that. They l it ea f lbs" 'snteuied.froin Itt very first; C must see what amount was necessary in all l, l JI," lit to bo almost impossible to deal these municipalities to meet the expense of g with wtdltdgueation without in connection , carrying on their local allairs; and in the for ' 1 3 . l -° mg with the cases ot there mu- I cases. which were not many, in which this ' olpalities that were not indebted or; " "I F r id . events, those that Were not recelvmg any l can not be done without a tax of more than be fi f th 8 F, , l v . two cents in the dollar, they should make a 1'1i'd'ir,! e tatnte of 1869, Ari PY" [l i larger allowance. Debentures which would pose t pt m the first Platte atl muttioipuiti" require a larger taxation than that would not reheved by that statute Ibould rc. . never be good debenture in the market, ' 'ill', " Potter of $2 pet head. . and they would never have a satisfactory _ out. there was a further . oom- - settlement of this matter unless the deban- pen" ion which they thought it their duty . turee were marketable. They wanted the o provide for. debts of all the municipalities that were not Mr. IthHrERTy-Doe, that' include those ',",',gg,fth1 till! t'ltal, "bl" of such an I i who have paid up regularly? smoun " t ey wuu 6 e a eto 3 than. " He found that the following 'l)':2',1UTi'l,t d Ie,',. MOWhT--Yea, all but tho" whos, after their debts Were reduced by the 5 cent i I Be ts have been redaeed by the 5 ttttttbg rt.Uey rule were unable to pay the amount of the l tsdid not know on what other pnttoipte ' taxation lrcyoud the h'gnre he had mention. i I they could ft,', the benefit. (Heai, hear.) ed. Brockville, (labours, Chippewa, Dun. l It was not a on to them but to the Govern. 'lar, London, and Sinatra, These we" the l ment. Tu public money had gone to them only ones to which perhaps it would neces- l . to make Improvements at the 'rrpen" of the l sarr to apply the rule. in the case of llmck. i whole Provmee, and he had not been able to ' ville there would be a further reduction of l fe? on what principle, which they could '31" the debt to $6ir'l,3710i, but that town ( p9 befom tltt "WW, they ooald gt" q could not, without a tax mien of beyond tm, indebted municipalities the same allowanceas t cents, pay tho amount of its indebtedness, i the rest ot the Irovinet out ot.the funds ' ewe with that reduction. Ot course the _ they had remaining. but various claims I taxation waned from car to your, an the so were made by municipalities not btrneiltttsd I benditnre varied: 'glrar'eod',', he took one i by the statute tt 1859 with reference to the t . year, l872, and he found from looking at the l purposes to which tter. applied an mtnMV l expenditure of that year that this tum ' theyget from the P1,aii'ie1Loy.t!? l1"d: Largo l would not be able to pay without a taxation 3 sums Were borrowed and put i!ito railways. I of' mr re than 2 cents on the dollar by $135; I It hat, long been an 1elitttf this country to l 375. which would require niurther reduction i encourage eilymr.. enterprises. Before the of $26 "o PP., The next place was Cobourg, l time of confederation large sums. of money 1 where even . 5 t rule attorded th great r e- I were contributed out of the Provincial chest 1 duction, 'ifltt4f"lse, but they moat make a p for these Eurpeul. Heavy amounts were I further rzduotion ofie9,3ti8 55, which would ', given to he G'rand 'rr.ytir, the Great West. _ ' i leave the debt 369,500. The next place we. ', em. and horthem, IlailtraH, and no on. All l Chippewa, the reduction of whomi debt by these railways which had received benefit in 3 the tive .cnt rule would onl u $2,181, but thia'woyhad rePdtred, with others, grxrat l he proposed to make a further reductim on 8ervieet, m developing the resources of the l , the two cent principle hythe mm of $20,530 eountry. When . fiaal trtstturneut WM made '1 leaving a Manda ot tit,318. The next Plat: of these mattereau Allowance ehould bemade g " order _- Dumlai, --. was very peculiarly to those municipalities .which advanced l . situated in regard to its debt. He was utterly moneys to railway enterprises which did not unable to comprehend how that town tnvle .reeeive in "Y other form public aid, la the advance for the Deejardins Canal that it some cases the railways were aided by the \ ' did. After the completion of that work the municigalities taking "oak in them, and in utiinlcipali'y appeared to be worse off than other] y lending money for the construction felon. T e value of the property of the of the roads. Such moneys were advnncal, . place appeared to have diminished instead at on tho assurance that the municipal Cot'porG. ' .. increased by the manure that the con. tioua would not be called upon to pay those . struction of the on involved. m found moneys. The idea wasthat the revenues which ' " that Dundee had for several years ttrn'. the railways would yield would enable them itself considerah'y over two cents on the dol. to pay the loans and dividends ot atock. It ' hr, and therefore he asked the Home g, wool berememberedthatthe partiessintesreat. wipe out the debt of that municipality alt J. _ ed in the Northern Railway stated that the . gether. line would pay shareholders interest at the Mr. In K Eur - .Wipe out Port Bop: and rate of eleven and a-half per cent. per annum, l I 'obourg too. tt it l'fdt wiggle impression that Eug- _ Mr. MUWAT went on to in t I !" Cain n secure or the bail . debt of Dundee was 3110.2" GO bullish: att. l leg of the mad. It was well known: howen. i rulurtivu at all. The n a xt ptaee was Lori. l tirely mistaken these parties were. Similar l domoi which the whole dent on the no of ' atatemte.th "m made' by othor WHOM," i January, 1603, was $778,t49 M. This In 1 corporations when npplying to.theyt found, proposld to "rr'mee to $456,058 " Tir, E and these corporations had received no direct next place was the town of Niagara, from 2 retnrns from the moneys thuy.iny.t.aud. . At whore debt the 5 cent rule Would'atriko od l . that time, when those municipalities aided . $352,312 60. The 2 cent rule would rettire. 'e',t,'ti,'lr,', beat We of constructing them . , a further reduction of $70,107. The sum it I a" not v'"'rg',,-,',1,',t ooata trret..dul more ' could may without going beyond the 2 cent I Yd new. ht PoW.Kitusmm of it all Te rule mould be about $14,000. (Chasm) la ( 2t,t'"llh1 'tnet'tdi"i,'t, were burdened w.ith _ makxng these reductions he had overlooked i burdened with b'i no "t,",'2le S,1"te, _ Irrtt.itti1 connection altogaher. ' The town l, Government of the "of? f"let",tt't 'lt or minimum mammoth: my. The 2df'i'luWdJ'foi"lU'l'df,i'd" ' arising out of andnvoetment of in"? bar. ',; John 8andfieid Maedehald passed a Relive; Alina f: om the Muuicirral Loan Hun . oi I Am Act.under the provisions of which some '

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