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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 14 Jan 1874, p. 4

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¢xpetrditure would be l.id b--fore the HMn«** in good time. The Government, ho reve" :"}"','0 not responsible for that expesdi' 1ce, 24 the work had k.cajnitiatcd before they C¥ | into office, and it was their duasy to ' c}""y it out. _ He expressed the opinion that the accoptince of the fowest tsadar upon public wor'ks was noithor sife nor jadi Cors, and had always Lbeea found to result magreator expordiinre to the county !n the end thj' hsd one been taken which ;(mfld have appoared from the first jast to ith parties, aud suflicient to enable tie con-- tractor tofinish bis work succesfully. [2 proof, he instimced the coutracts for the Beleville and Brantford Asylam, which had cost a creat deal more in the ead thia i; higher tenders h11 at first been accapts 1 The hon. gentleman bad spoken of Interfor | ence by the Commissioner of Pablic Works ' with the workmen on the Contral Pricon | worka, duribg the late election to the D ain-- | ion House in Weet Toronto, and had stated that | he (Mr. McKellar) had gone about among | the wea. and tried to use the foremen as in-- | atrument; to secure votes for Mr. Moss. In ' proof, he had reforred to an aflidavit which | appecrc 1 in the n=pera the other day, to the effect thas th. j szon whose sizayard Was sttached had seeu the Commiesioner spe*king to the foremen, and althouzh hedid not hear what be said, he believed tnat be was trying to ges them to inflaencs the vots of the men. (Laugkhter.) Now, that this man . »hould have seen the Commissioner speaking -- to the foremcn, s'though be did not hear what he was saying, was most conslusive cvidence. to the mind of the hon-- onrab'e gsentleman that the Commis-- sioner was trying to get thom to influence the votes of tho men _ (Loud laughter ) He had not been to the Canteal Fwiron Works since the day the hurricane b:4 blowa a portion of the wall dowa, nor did he remember having seen or spoken to any of the foremen since. (Wear, herr.) Nor bad he ever spoken t> any of tho fore-- men, nor yet to suy of the men, as t how they thould or should not vate in that elec-- tion. (Cheers.) VMr. LAUDED----Afidasit. (Teanicu eriga | of H+ar, bear ) ' Hon. Mr. MoKELLA!I said he chal. * lexged the hon, gentleman to the fuvestiga tion, (Cheers.) Ne felt pained th.s any | member of this House should get ap, and upon ; such evidence as this make such a chargo Ho would bave been surprised bhad any w'be-- mermbor thin the momber for Syito {irey done so, (Cheers and laughtar.) Wast a eplendid legal mind it exhibitcd in the hou, _ wember for South Grey to chargo him with iplcrferin@ in the election, besrucoe a man «wore thit he h:d cuen hiin speak to tho 'cremem, bat did not heas what ho saul. <Besr, hear, and Jaucshtsr ) 4 ; ' w,, LAUDER said he hal never chargad ihe C}:fimr,.sioncr of Puablic Works with ia : serféring directly io the clections. _ ([Hear _ hear, and luught=r.) # HUon. Mr. McKELLAR again challanged i 'he hon member to move for a Committes « a«od he would further yvenkuce to stats that nuone of the forsmen intorfercd with their men. (Cheer>.) And he bad not perionally asked eny centiormn connected with the de-- vartment,either eut of the hwlting or within 't. to vote onoa way or another, (Loud cBeera) If thero was any one thing more contemptible than another, it was for a maun with any authsrity to attempt to caerce any man under him in the matter of the fran chise,.> (Oheers.) He for ons woua'ld naver be guilty of it. (Loud cheors.) He had carried the princple out in his capasity of a crivate individuai, he bad carried it ont in bis public capacity up to this timg, aal he xpald always cdo so in the futura (Jaeers.) 'Then as to the statement of revenue and ex-- penditure which had been prepared, it was & wource of intense annoyance to the hon wmember for South Grey, It ende@voured to law facts before the electors of this country, and it was this endeavour upon all occasions to tell the truth in regard to these matters to which he (Mr. McKellar) owed whatsver :+~fluence he bad among his fe!low-go:n'ury': > sns & kep o oTE L us 4.4 SX RAAEOEN VRERE MOMEs SCn Cn P eC E to tell the truth in regard to thess matters to which he (Mr. McoKellar) owed whatsver :~fluence he had among his fellow--country-- men. (Loud chsera.) Honesty 'and trath were quite as much the 'correct policy in _ politics as in privato business. (Hear, hear.) Although the Government were defeated in South Simece, they bad been ab's to redacs the majority against them very considerably; \ and while bearing tessimony to the superior \ character of the electors of that Riding, both mentally and physically, he predicted that it | would be one of the strongest RKseform con . stituencies in this Province in less than five ears. Ho had a perfect right to {". the -- statement referred to by the hbovn. gentiman prepaired, and was + y to vouch fr its correctness in every at elec-- | | ul cules ' ie thal-- ' weuktga # °6 any 0 A Mr, SPEAKER ruled that whon a GeDa'® 184 gore on ir:egularly for some tims, the sher ride had a right to reply. | 4 p. Mr, McKELLAR said be had only 1 t9.c1160 by ib bevause 4o Loik genileniao s ctatemante econormni®ng is would, in the neean* 'ime, create a false impression concernit3 i. He bod as a matter of fact had thets "000-- | mess prepared; he submitted it to the peope; * 05e 4: k not thiak there was anythiag #1008 \ init. 14 was merely pW log facts batore | them a« opposed to the fast and lonse stxt?» ) !_ ment» apon the sabject made by the hoa. | membir for South Grey. (Hear, hoxt ) Hedid ' | not mean to discnss the Ceatral Prison mat | ter with the hon. member jast now, but , would ¢txke the opportunity to do so when tha psptss were. brought dows, and he coald do it inteligently. _( Applanse.) Hon. M¥ FRASER said he would remind i the hor,, wember far South Grey that th | «reater portion of the papers for which h a«ked had been brought dlown last sess:00 ' They insladed all the paP®"3 down to Febra-- are 1973 He thought the hon, momber did particular PATCCVALO®TA h Mr. LAUDER raised a point of order. Be ad himself been ruled out of order for re-- ferring to this paper at all, and the hon gentleman was now commenting up9" the ame puper. / Mr. SPEAKER ruled that whon a debate Lad anva an ivenularly for some tims, the They included all 1DC ary, 1873. He thoug not want theso again. Mr. LAUDER correspondence s required. -- What down was not neC iob want theso aparn'. Mr. LAUDER said thera had been other | rorrespondence since that tims, which he required,. -- What had {ormerly been broughat ' lown was not necessary vpon this occasion | Hon, Mr. FRASER said it wa* evidont the ' bos. membcr had veiy liitle of the public in~ | terest as heert when he made his motion, and there were 5958 three things which he desired t» pocomplish Tho firss wasto at-- tack the Minittor of Paubiic *orks, which he nover loss an PE uuniy of 40198 and in doing which he nevet failed to> introduce | _Proton. (Hear. be--", aad Jaught=er.) \| _ Mr. LAUDER ~Lintend to introdace that | i every trme. | Hon. Mr. FRASER raidl he Roped he | would, bseaute otherwise the hoa. goatlieman | would never be able to mak& aunther sp32C2. | (Lauchter ) 'The secoad thing he wanted | | particularly -- to do was to air_ the partioular grievar"., oo M¥; fiisk br\, _ contractor, _ WBO was a_ friend of the hon. member. The third and last was to endeavour, if possible, to sooths down t 10 little rufiling be got in Wess Toroats. (Hear, \ hear, and laughter.) He did not intead to \ follow the hon. gentleman throuch Proion | and West Toronto, but he would allads | shortly to «omg of his 10varke, Tho bon. | gentlemad should b2 the last to reler to the ' ase cf public docnments at elecitons, for the * iaet time he went to South Girey for election, | \ a statement besring the signature of th7 ° E Commizioner of Crowa L:nds had Den put | in the hands of the electors there, The dlf-- ' fercuee between the two stt ment3, how-- /. »ver, WAB this.--The statoment lmgd bofore l 'he elsectors of South Simeoe we* trae in its minutest detal, w hile the other was A \ 1-;;1(#'5. !?ENPPG&""; ; tion of the i;ct(;.' (L?ud cheer8." 'as hod gentiem«." had told the LCC | \urs of South flce that $125,..° id been ( voted and put in the ecstimates fof the par-- [ yose of f)ntcin;; another wiug to the Orown \ Lands epart ment, while ho kuew atb the \ time that it was only $25,000. Xr. LAUDER called the hou, centlioman to order, _ He had no right to say that auy hon. gentleman maide a stitement waich be knew to be untrue. He could tell the hoa sentleman thit the vot:3 and procecdings \ time out the st t:--ment that th3 anount was °195. 0t 0. T 3A hetuiindd Hon. _ Mr. FRASER --would like to | now what the hou. gentleman obj:st2d to, _ If the hon gentliom in had stated for a fact that the sum was $125,000, be wa stating what w»s untrue; i? he did not ka>w iny better, ho at least ousht to hive known. and bad no right to muke an authoritative | staterent while ho was in ignorance of the | facts. (Hear,hear). The hon. gentiemza could \ take which horn of the dilsmnma he pleased. The hon geatlemsn bal startsd by sayicg 1 that the Central Pricon was a legasy lefs the ' prezent Government by their predece:sor3, | out he bad forgot to mention that facs to bhs | workingmen of West Toronts, when he told * P ooa a scheme which would take " dclAbiPratigne : Jn Tt3 14 Th e candPvatbwienibntnt ied prezent Government by their predec out he had forgot to mention that faci workingmen of West Toronts, when _ them it was a scheme which wou!l away their bread from them, aod wa ing & premiam upOn crime. He fc toll the peop'® of West Toron! he bad himself been on0 of th carnest advocates of the schews, and corded bis votoe in its favour, (Hea The quondam leader of thehon gont Hon, Johbhn Sandfield Mazsdooa ald --I posed that there should be threo Ang LCE TS Oe 0 Wess Toroats. (Hear, IAe did not intead to mau through Proion int he would alluads them, aod was offer-- . crime. He forgos to West Toronto thas m one of the most he schews, and had re-- favour, (Hear, hear.) f the hon gentleman-- Mazsdoaild--had pro-- aild bo three ceatral JCu~ | ple; rong fore tate-- ) hoa. bats | make !

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