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v the poligioq! parties, and I th d(' i', a M v * on un B & sny cf the heads of tho Department used to °"1,°°"?'!°""§'}"="""i"'d ts ts fosiination. W ..Z Mr. Moes ? by 'letting all the men go 10 ¥NO 1. * 'onto vote for Mr. 'where both c'ndid.t- .nd'thdr friends were} ' ; N | was any such influence exercised. | and @here no xlvuion or show of hands was' 0 .~~Mr. Wirutam Kexxzgovy was recalled for to be to indicate which party had a OE the purpose of ascertaining whother aay in-- } major'ty on the ground. I had no communi--; 41 d --structions bhad been given him by canvass-- | cati;s, verbal or otherwise, with any of the! N0 ers in reference to other officials similar to foremen or men on the .Worlu. before ~or . id those given him with regard to Fiynn, during either of the elections, farther than j yf . _ Mr. Cavrrox--Did you leave any message the note I sent to Mr. Waguer,and to which | MB R in the Registrar--General's efficeo for any I have ah'e:t:{ relerred. I nover,dmcflj' nor ; | $ pe on ? * indirectly, ;;ieaqy o evoluad idns tna on hm l | / _ Witness--Yes,. Iloft a message for Mr. voté, or attem in any way 1 B 8 4 > f < the men to vote for one candidate or the: [ | Kflfifi','-ff;ff:j'""g him to go to Mr, Mc other, _ I had no knowledge then, nor have I | ? § _ ar that .now, of the relative numbers of the Moss and ' | x« Carmrrox--Who gave you mes-- the Bickford men. _ That is all I have got to | . ¥ | ..89 uyl with regfid to this matter, bat I have a | 11 3 | __Witness said he thought it was Evans. litt!::to aay in reference to my interview i 1| * . He further -- stated _ that -- two -- or w ...}iz Smyth. In the first place, he 1s . 'S | three canvassers called at different,times, but Euscaken as to the election during which he| dl | he could not say before which election it called at my room, for I can prove, by do¢u-- . |§ U was. He thoufibt. however, that it was mextary evfimoe, that I was away from here | '.L Moss and Bickford's election. . 'There was > the.,shole 'week before the Robinson: Moss . § no message leit with him for any of the other election 'came on, and I only arrived hers | d tt'; clerks, * from 'he west about 11 o'clock on the even:-- TV Mr. Hancy--Did Mr. McKellar intimate ing of the day of the election; so I could not || 14 '&f | to you in any way that he wanted to see Mr. bave #»en him on that occasion. 'The time 1 1 ' Smyth ? he calied on me was on the day of the pre-- | M Witness--No. ' vious election, * When he csme in 1 did, not 1 The examination of thesewitnesses having rimeed Mtg Io('lo not know. "I'lr:og:dnut h!u: U U terminated, considerable discnssion ensued as 'hm""l:Whfi do you want*?" -- He replied d to whether Mr. McKellar should make his c l on m | & 1 statement th Iwas zent up here I told him there 3 is must be some mistake, as I had not sent a 1k Mr. Riogaros said thore had boen a message to any. man, and asked him to what | charse made against Mr., McKellar, and it dM' belonged, _He told me he | {4 OB was due to everg'man against whom a charge belonged to the Registrar.General's Depart-- |!| , was made to afford him an opportunity of went, and '-iinmlonis that he told me 't 0 i making an explanation . or _statoment .hundenflfl I ed to see him in con:-- // e if ho desired to do so, It was with ~notion with the election. Ithen told him | es this view that the Committeo wers willing £~%.d not interfere with any of the employes, -- ie to hear the two last witnesses, if the hon. «4 that he might go and vote as he liked, | 1| :3 gentleman desired to make a statement, of L uisde up my mind that no man in the ' V MJ course they would hear him, _ _ emuloy of the Govmmer sh:ulfi hlx:ive an | | ti w The CHnarmax understood i intWesation from me as to how he should vote. / tt * unanimous desire of the Oomfit::e ::::t g: I m§§*have told him to go to Mr. Pardee,the ' ' = McKellar should make a statement. head of is department, and that I had 1 . M R ied bthing to do with him, but I told him posi-- Y o ieing tm Wt we wl t hok . viodlet vilthe i fively 1 did not interfere with the employes U unanimous desire of the Committeo that he e k Td , M . oee t | should make a statement, When I told m that Mr. P'l'dee was l t | » o the hesd of his department, I did not 10 | . Mr, Canrrox said the previous day they do so with the view of his getting instrac-- BV (~ y sent for Mr, McKellar, in order to give him tions from Mr, Pardee as to tioe disposition of |14 ;llaeopep:rtnmty of making a statament, if he his vote. --> 1 k ased, -- * i - . =a's * | --Mr. RykrErt ther moved that the evi-- $. of the Commitice thas Mi/ Meloslin: should se deen ts the dfomhon tm Weal Lorouto,and U \ make his statement ? f erence to the election in West Toronto, and t | -- s the officials and employees of Governm n : in | 6| Mr., Ricuarps said he had no desira to connection thmvfthl °ialudin Mr. Mo-- <(9RV: bear Mr, McKeliar, unless he wanted to be Kellar's statement, be mwitlflgrcporbl to BV 03 th::thgyu:mx '?}!Od,it :gl'"uflfl[%fll'l!tozd 'Mr, Camgrox seconded the motion, | . // e ere not forcin r. McKellar to w 'a j || & make a statement. He 'gl not bouad to do 3 goll:;' ?ufsfis.};';"elf 'fiw:g(:"l;:dn:::; ' 11ME . n & B -- so, as far as they were concerned, the.rew | "og evidence by the clerk, aund it 4 Hon. Mr. McKrErrLir then proceeded to waw~ic:: *the Committee to decide 'which | 10 R , make bis statement. He said:--On the fors-- branch &Tofid to that case. Theyjought : wE , coon of the day of the nomination of Messrs, not to d{).eq ore the House evidence 'which / y e § | Bickford and io-, Mr. Dickey called up n did xot belong to this matter. 1 o | me at my offioa':nd told me that some of CiG p t ". | the men at the Central Prison desired to at» Hon, Mr. Crooxs suggested that the 4k : | tend the nomination, He also told me it :fl;'""':'f' 'h:;l':d m o: d';:f: °'£'°" g:;' 0e was customary for o u f / A 1 0k | l to give their men :;rf;chmmffil;?t; .;t@et ation .. ?t the _ Committee -- before \urs o attend nominations without reducing their ;being subméiSed to the House. 4 P | wages. I thought if that were the rule--and Mi-- --Fraszr" 'was opposed to including i4( ; i I knew I had acted upon the principle myself svidence #n'thé raport irrelevant to the case, | \ O 1 | whenIemployed men--thot it would be only a becauseit wo'ld only give hon gontlemen o & | fair thing for the Government to give th¢ anopport-u'nl:&ot ?:tfiing upon every sub-- 1} W . same indulgence to their men. 1 then gave jeot the evide"ce referred to. Ho thought it i L" him a note to Mr. Waguer, the SuYerintor was daly a,,f-h"ihtlg that the evidence re-- 3 4 dent of the works, a copy of which I did not htiw:'m? the Contral Prison matter should \'j 1 keep. The language, however, was to ths berd ,:.'.;v'!f'gprom'ffly as possible, but in-- |. s | followl:g purport, and as near as I can recol: 'asmnch as 'the evidence on the remaining 1 4 | lect to the original: "If the men desire to at: ubj«cts had not been concluded, it wouldnot . tend the nomination you are at liberty to be fair to submit a portion of it to the House. uM give them half a day's liberty and let tireir f * Hoy Mr..Crooxs then moved as an i\ wages go on " . That was all I did, .and my ,| amendment," That the Chairman supervise | U reason for doing it is as I have already | sed sulymit" to the Committes at its next ' t ::d. I th:mht !it was only a graceful meeting a +draft of such evidence as relates !{. f ' } E:'" | nd' or the Government to to the permission given by the Commissioner |~| e give ';'l': ulgence to their men that f Pnbgc Works to the men at the Central ~JJ other emp "é"" of labour gave. I have Prison to attend the late Toronto élection | | e « done it my »fand I believe no person, com: '| comination, in--order that the same may be | Lk p.:'r, or corporation loses anything by giving submitted to the' House." | 1 ::d mu:ko d 'lfx::l th: men work better, : Asivision took place on the amendment | 3 3 4 ustained in the Y f° oss that may be with «e following regy it :--Yeas--Hon, Mr, | | :ll the way of wages, By letting Fraser, Hon. Mr. Orooks, Messrs. Farewell, | J e mg'z ;'l'figi"':':;y could arise be.« -Hud{, and Sinclair. Nays --Messrs, Camer-- | if 1 éwes ord men, : on, Richards, Lauder, and,Rykert, Yeas 5, | | &_ Mr. I:AUDIR--WO want facts,not opinions, ' Nays 4 1 §« : e Mr. Fraser--I think it is scarcely cour.-- Mr, Canrrox next moved that the" whole 1 a ta{hto interrupt the hon, Commissioner of evidence taken before the Committeo up to -- | 40 lfe'ar fnP orks. Itt is desirable we should "this tir;e be reported to the House. 4 | nocct, statement, whether fact or argu-- hi. u. ;.Ooxfid'! that the motion was out ; 113 , the matter having already been de-- | sn Hon, Mr., McKriranm--3 was merely oi \ MAnd amon. 4 Amedf HW ing my regscos for doing what I did, T had | I no a of making any distinction be. } ¢ 3 lis.