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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 13 Mar 1874, p. 3

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* on of the party to which he be-- % M eepa e l"lfid_- mht that whon the hon. } i f Commissioner wrote that letter ho must who was in active political sympathy with a have hovn, when he considered to}whom he the Commissipper, had requested that they : ' was giving it, the use to which it was to be be allowed to go, But even though the COM* put. If this were the only occasion on which missioner hadiot been the immediate cau85© ' the hon, Commissioner of Public Works had of the wrong done in this case, he was guilty erred, he (Mr. Ardagh) would. be inclined to | through hlg neglect to provide against aDY -- , exculpate him; but when he considered that wrong being d E. in the same way in which gentleman's conduct in Proton,and hils eagor-- the llaw .fi om:nan guilty of manslaughter ness on other occasions to assist his party by it the d mth ef. other was the result cv% the little acts which were not exactiy right, ho alighte ? u mce on his part. _ It did not a 'felt that ho must voto for the motion, fofiow:t :):glg:;miuionor of Public W? v * Mr. CHRISTIE said that this motion was cencured that the other memW@rs of the 1 > commended itselft to his mind in at least one Government were also blamed, gl" they s ' particular, and that was in its detiniteness, cbhose to bare their own backs the lash. and--in the evidence of the use to which it Having expressed the opinion that it g would be put in the event of its being car-- was gemx& the dignity of the pO®!-- ' k. ried. _ He did not beliove that there tion of a Minister (l;%nl the Crown to £* es C was any intention on the part of the Com-- about the country takin part in electio® | <\e missioner to use undue influen:e with re-- contests, the speakeor ukog why it was fl:-:f y Eud to the West Toronto elaction, but the man who kept the y--roll of the Cont he hoped that what that gentleman had done Prison workmen was Eected to keep the | lfn this case would be taken as a procedont, half--holiday separate from the other time,un-- | lor if it were, he had no doubt that it would be less it was {hat it wasthought that Mr. Moss f ( i;rg_ely drawn upon by the Conservative party | committee would pay for it ? The Commis-- f f thm» to come, should they happen to come | sioner had not acted on precedent in this gaso, hn o power again. (Hear, hear ) Belioving, but when what he bad done was called in h?t:ever, that the hon. Commissioner hai not tion,4 he bad looked about for prece-- i nded any wrong when he wrote the letter gne:' lon.d had happened to stumble on a o which the motion reforred, he (Mr. Obris-- enos, 'i'-' the Ilustrated London News, and tie) would voto against it. :gpy :h° o:" found was not one of which Mr. CODE held that when the hoa. Com-- t ?: as a parallel. - pussioner wrote his Ictter he must have doue i aig P oo cmoa't 3 he did not hb f 3 zo with a view to its being usod to coerce Mr. DEROCHE ;..l that be did no% D2; | voters, lieve the hon, Commissioner had had any in-- ; f , Mr. OLIVER said that when the Opposi-- tention of coercing in what h s ho ionat that 4 a ticn were in power in this Province the pub-- | bad been said th'. thore ':" o ere why t ' 3 lic morey was spent in pleasure trips to Ifake the letter was written. No, there was l""' » ~al Superior and elsewhere, and nothing was said for it was not the przgtice with the hon, - [b > against it, but as soon as the mechanic and mmissioner to deny the truth, &s ";'-.""5 ' the labouring man was allowed a half holiday with the late great Promier of the D?m mion, : fonoothk. sound went all over the country who etated in the House of Commons t againat it, and a preat scandal was raised, that hbe had not reseived "Z r'r'mney <Ig He hold that the letting of these man go to from Sir Hugh Allan, that '"these ' the nomination was but an act of justics, and hands are clean," but was at last proved j one which tendéed to encourage the study of | guilty of the charge he had pronounced un-- a politics among mechanics and labouring fou:Xed. (Hear, bear.) He believed that E. men,. _ (Hear, bear.) _ When he sat. when the feeling 'of the people of Ontario w cn the other side of the House along with his with regard to tih matter came to be known 3 heon. friends about him, the charge was con-- it would be found that they stood shoulder to t tmnall'y' thrown across the floor that the then shoulder with the hon. Commissioner, (Hear, y Opposition were factious; that they were en hear.) It had always been the policy of the dGeavouring to obstruct business; but uatil arty opposite, as all history with regard to A this seesion 'he had not fally understood the fho auestion would show, to crush out the A jull meaning of the word. Now he saw bun-- working--man, and, disguise it as they might, 8 combe resolutions brought up continually, and it was 511! policy which lay beneath this per ~ in discuesing one of these alone $2,000 of the | secution of the gon. Commissioner of Agri-- people's money had been thrown away, and culture and Public Works,. It was because 3 at lAst hon. gentlemen opposite had becoms that gentleman had sprung from the working. f ashamed to have their names recorded for it. class--because he did not belong to the kid K He would remind them of the fable of the glove gentry of the country, as the hou. 3 boy and the wolf, Like the boy, the Oppo-- member for East Hastings bad said last nifiht | sition were crying out "Wolf! jwolf!" when ----that he was attacked in this manner; bat there was no wolf, and by--and--bye, whon, he (Mr. Deroche) could tell those hon. gentle-- 3 perbsps, there was a wolf, the country men who were fulminating these charges \ . would have ceased to believe them, (Hear, against the Commissioner of Public Works f * hear.) f that they would fail in their object on this A | _ Mr, MoMANUS said that in the part of occasion, as they had failed in the past, ard © | the country from which he came, it was cus-- that the people of the country--the farmers, | C | tomary to give men not only a half holiday, the working men--would stand by the § | but a whole heliday to attend nominations, bon. gentleman, | and, _ so far from .3 4 | He supposed, however, that private individ:-- finding fault with him for what he had done 4 | uals might do that which it would be impru« in this case, do honour to him,. He (Mr. | & dentfor public men to do, and he thought Deroche) had heard some of his own con-- % that if the hon. Commissioner _ of stituents speak of this matter, and they won-- A _ Agriculture were again asked to act , dered at the flimsiness of the charge--that as ho had done in this case, ha would ' thousands of dollars of the people's money | pot do it. (Hear, hear.) He would not vots rhould be expended in discussing the ques-- 1 # for the motion, as he believed this Govern-- | tion in which only two or thres hundred | ment had done much for the counu"iy and he ; dollars was involved. CGentiomen opposite would be sorry to see them displaced, would say it was not the question of the k f (Cheers.) n;oney but the great underlying principlé J Mr. DEACON said that he thought he had ; ey were t!:o cotfmde;. He agreed that it | € rever heard weaker arguamonts than those 3' & quob l(;"cli ?n principle they wera con-- « which had been offered against this motion, Nnoi daty to alioe w he held that it was $ He held that what had been alleged against a °"t°3:y e ow the men who toil from 4 the Commissioner of Publiq Works had beon e it y to avail thamselyes of an oppor« ' virtually admitted by everyone who had %.,,. tmt" dyl:xv h"l'je'.'" it offered to become edu-- ' rended him,. He contended that tna purpose :; ;ive ; &(:3 lltim:' ;;o that the(g would be fitted f~ for which that hon. gontieman had written site would sa f :h tv o:;.' entlawmow °gl'°' the letter in question was quite evident. compinined J the man Pe would not have < Eve bod k hi i b 't' liti-- P e men being l"OWOd to go 3 .verybocy knew him to be an active politi and vote, but he (Mr. Deroch ) beli -- cian, who went all over the country working great th(;ngh this sto;'m 'wase lev:d that d 'v-- ane perty, ana snen it had been proved in would have boen raised had fi..gr&' erbone Committee that he had marked the lstter allowed to go and vote instead ot toegtt:eclll -- he sort to Mr., Dickey, **private," which nomination. In that case it would have b e was a circumstance that showod him to have sa'd that they wore Fven a holiday in :de s bad an idea in bis mind when he wrots it to go and vote for Mr. Moss. The l{.t !o :r + g that he was doing something not altogothor had said Ministers of the Crown uhonlg" : ~ right--something that it was not advisable go round the country interfering in the dno j for everybody to know, I% was not in order tions, -- Why, it was not three months C0 E that the men might have an opportunity to | gince they bad that hon, gentloman's leu'lzo ' study politics that Nr,. Dickey want-- astumping in his (Mr.Deroche's) own cou ter wR ed them to attend the nomination, for and it was not long ago that Ministors ofnthy' j there was plenty of opportunity for them + Crown in the House of Commons had i ba: tg dg tbl:d u:hfl;ofl;meehngl :xeeld every nicht, fered in local elections, fln § e deni at the supporters of the motio + desired to prevent working--men from taklng Mi MEREDITH said that he did not 3 part in elections, and said that there was no think the working--men would thank the hon $ evidence that the Central Prison workmen l f'nflem'z"hzlh'd just spoken for the special 4 | had made any apgho;tion for leave to go to e r onl fl: t;imed for them in ard to _ _ the nomination, but only that Mr. Dickey, Mgfl em to go to electlons, H::Snrgod &« hon, gentliemen oppcsite with defaming ang ; blackmailing the character of every public M

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