_ _ .4' a: ' _ d, r. Y'%r . _ ' z", ' . f _ . r . r f _ ' t T s" .." .21 "i: Vi? [-9 TTr" " [ "", > . e _ _ being placed in his bank, odriiii tly aided the F:' , ' t 'rovernment in the elections [gs went on to . _ I I right. say that Mr. 8andfiesld Mecdoneld his ' , l . Mi. MOWAT said the member for S mth never allowed the expenditure to exceed the ' i' 31m had complained that the Treasurer appropriations for each "ar, and that the _ g . was too early in msking his statement. bat present Government had been doing so every T _ I the Renard deuirg of use Kongo was, he . year. They would find, too, that year after , believed, to have it as soon as possible; and year he and his friends bed remonstreted ', l the comglsint that had previously been msde with them for such conduct. He contended (i. by the pposition wee that the statement that a brim amount of the money which we . , had not been made early enough. (Hear? ) were rece ving from the Dominion really be. _ i, He (Mr. Mowat) hid this to say, however, logged to Quebec, and said it would be a dif. : 2 of the remarks of the hon. member, that ti t matter for the Treasurer to regulate , ther were much more frank in their the accounts between the two Provinces. It __ character than these general! y mails wee a mistake to say we hidonlr four-ninth by members cf the Opposition, and " his of that money to pay over. He read , speeohto-day wasesample of wt at was to ' a statement from which he made .. he expected from him, he tr, his im. I it appear that the receipts of (ti; Mecdcugell's) associates woul follow his ( the Crown lands offioe for the he . example. (Hear, hear.) The complaint that' .nine months ending 30th September was r " had all along been made by Opposition mem- ( $218,677 62; the expenses, $203,047 32, and - 1 t; . here and the Opposition press, was that the the net revenue, $15,630. He thought that i 5 land sale of the Government had not been a matters in that Department were nearly at a I . good Urgain for the country; but today stand-still. Darin the lastthree months of i I ' the new leader of the Opposition came tor. 1874 about o,l,','d'l'llt of the whole amount , . ward to contradict his colleagues, by saying received for the previous nine had been taken . ti - that the mam was too good for the coun- , u, and yet the Treasurer said now he expect- 3 "" V 'r-rl that purchasers were desirous ed a much larger ropertionete amount this i to get rid of their purchases. (H ear, hear, year, but he thought this was very unlikely. , F and cheers ) He might say that the propor- m contended that there was no difference _ l tion of 'those purchasers who have given inopinlon between the hon, member for l Ir' no their bargains use very small. South Simcoe and his friends as to the hn. l 'i The hon. member had accused the propriety of the timber sales. They had I _ Treasurer of confounding assets with always thought that the sale was most im, 1 .' the surplus. He (Mr. Mowet) considered prudent, end that it was conducted under l " Set the gig; ','ia,GL',",tG bl the sur. I false representations. l "" s ' ' us wee u o avai a e assets of , _ . . 1 ' Bt , the Province and 3) deduct from the sum hist- PALDEE said be bad often i, - 'll I the total of the liabilities. The balance ac- aaid P. "I"! to "ttes Opposition that i _ L 18 ' cording to his idea, should give the our lus, ha believed the time would come when f "/'rf l and an. was, he behaved, whet his hon. they would admit that the timber sale , (3;, , friend, the Trcaaumr, had done. (Hear, was one of the bestacts of the Government . " ",'d _ bear.) With regard to money due us from I " was pleased to learn that that time had , a; I the Dominion,thi, hon. gentleman might just come sooner than hat exgected. The Govern- , es well say that the money which Mi. Sand- meat had been boon to tue advantage _ P . tuid Macdenald had invested in Dominion ot the commercial aettieitr during I ' debentures was not an asset as to exclude whlohthe "ie was maiUs and so far from ' " : thefnnds owed us by the Dominion since making . refund to the timber men, who l H , before Confederei i In, Surely if the hon, were well able to take care of themselves, he gentleman had had anything sub- believed if they had not made that sale at . stential with which to find fault the time "a mmld hm demsrvod the Cen. ' he would not have resorted to such sure of the ones. The hon. member for a criticisms of his hon. friend's statement as Eaat Grer had made . atatatnmtt regarding , x be had done, the revenue from Crown Lends which [ , l It bein tis o'el k th 8 k 1 ft th was entirely incorrect. m had not ' , g . oc ' Q P" " th tt the details before him at this mo- " ' . chair. _ meet. but he would like to l 'iq 5 After NOB", ask where the revenues of the Province came I 'r, ', Mr. MOWAT continued his remarks. lem, according to his statement. It WM I, f The hon member for South Simcoe had an- tilu, the, statement that tued to In made by t nuanced that in reality the moneys owed by as hon. gentleman-who "5 then . member ' i the Dominion to Ontario were owed by On- oftbe House, that the aurp1un Wal, only $18. I ' I harlot!) Ontario, and had stated it as if he Tho "ind 03W." of the Department were _ . had made a new discovery. The fact was A about 850,000; those connected with the 5' the House and the people knew that not» ,\ woods and forests were about $18,000; enr- sio was the chief Province of the Dominion, 'x, "3' ahottt 830,000, or in all about $100,000. ( and tbmiore paid in large sums tothe Do. hut tn 1872 they had mreaived from the i anletStm. It was exactly in the position of . woods and forests branch alone $903,952, i senior partner ir. a firm who had a large in 1873 8618,724, and In1874 about $503,004. I balance in his favour. As the hon. member With regard to the management of the De. 't i l for South Simcoe w" not now in partment he would only . My that be destied u l, l V 1 his seat, and as " (Mr. Mowat's) any one topoint to a time at which every 8 ' l object was to supp] some Information branch of Air Department W in . ere-tor a and. that Lf2'h%, member seemed state of "ioienoy than " present. (Cheers) 11 went, but which information was already , ' , ' in pension of the no... In senor-1. he s,aid,'Peitd"r,,'gltg1?, 'ttdt',1tt,i', , , i would not row make the further remarks had never been done before ---the oss l 'I which I" "a intended. amount of refunds for the year. Thisgrhed '; - I Mr. LAI' DEF. contended that the records never been done by Mr. Sandiield Macdonald T l ,: l, of the House showed that the Treasurer had and never before even by the hon, member i _ . I rPty.ted information in the. Committee of for East Grey. He had also included it " an i a Film Accounts to Opposition metnbsra. ordinery expense of the Department, when l, l _ Th. mtrplttit wat' . matter which hs thought every one knew that it was nothing of the ' I. . should be vhf}? "in! strtthrd, even by . kind. This was on e par with the state- l l _ bookkeeper in any mercantile establishment. meats which tho hon. member had been I t [ lie said that not a dollar bed been added to making in the pest throughout the country. i , l I the permanent investments which had been . l ' made by Bandtield Macdonaid. Up to the Mr, CAMERON contended that if the I ' ' I l. time this Government had come Into power refunds 'PP' charged on or" ala, y . I the moneys of the Province had been all whu Traid out ttyy should be " i l kept in the b'suk of Montreal, put on the other side when taken I _ .0 as to be availattu when re- in, end that the argument of the hon. mem- r ll quired; but in 1872 the Government had be?!" East Grey wen sound one. Ho 0011- I _ placed this money in no less then an banks, tended that the M10 ot the timber limits WI! l and no less than $400,000 had been p'aced in an unwarrentable thing, " it W done With' I the Bankof Ontario, of which the President out the consent of the people's represent-r 1 wee Hon. John Simpson. This money bed tiveq, and ditsttruiuttto because they did ' ' been so distributed to gain political supocrt. not hnowtho value ot ,rhat this?" "was i ( 1 The Treasurer had threatened to withdraw It Ill W510. too, that they lost more a portion of the money from the banks at a br some ot the trensectsons than they had l :ertsin time just to get the bankers on their gelned In otbus. m disapproved of the I knees to hint, and keen them in political practice of having accounts made out for tU l submission to him. He (Mr. Lauder) con- lineman of each year, end thought tU P l aidcred this plan was a very corrupt one. Comma" were making suspiciously large , ' Why had money been drawn from the Bank curds-aim in the letter portion of the years . l of Toronto. which had chiefly been managed accounts. g by (Tonscrvetives, and put into these banks Mr. CURRIE congratulated the Govern- managed by friends of the Government? H: mg on the statement medebythe Treasurer. _ read to the House a 1otterr,wliieh he mum " some bug. to the sale of _ claimed to be the original one, (inhabits, pointing out that theexpendi- from Bon, 2i',try P,rowa to Senator two! the Government hadt-sasttdnotnr Sunpe' on, c si g that the letter W mm m)" had. in consideration of Government money oal. m oot the by