The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 10 Dec 1875, p. 1

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QNTARIG LECISLATURE, Mr. Tiodginsg--Of W, Ebackleton, of Chat-- bam, for an Act to authorize him to practics as a P, I, Sorvepor, . 'The Speater teok tho chair at three rolock,. Mr. Hodgins, 2; Mr, Monk, 1; Mr. Lauder, 1; Mr. Scott, 1; Mr. Beil, 1--From mbabitents of Thunder Bay District, for an Act to separate certain townships from the municipality of Shuniah. "RST -- SESSIONR ---- THIRD PARLAMEKT. Mr. Bell--O{ the Central Stationand Ware. hcusing Company of Toronto, for an Act to atocud their Act of Incorporation, Mr. Pattreon, (Essez)--OL the Township Counc'l of Maidstone, for certain amend-- ments to the Assessment Act. REPORTS, »Ir. Deroche presented the first Report of the Committee on Standing Orders. MNr, Clarke (Wellingtorn) firtiReport of the Standing Pr{nting. The Reports were received. BUILDING SOCIETIES, Mr, MOWAT introduced a Bill to make {nrther provision for Permanent Bailding S>-- cieties, He explaiced that the Dominion Parlisment bad passed a Bill, the most of whose provisions had been found to be out-- »{de its jurisdiction, and be intended to em-- tody in this Bill its leading featuren, The Bill was read the first time, BILLS INTRODUCED, Mr. Mrredith introduced Bills to on-- £ble the Law Soc iety to admit E T. Esgery an(}' Fred. Rowell to practise as Barristors-- at-- Law, Mr, Dawscn introdaced & Bill to incor. ionso the Prinoe Arthur and Kaministiquia lallway. s Mr. KFerris Introduced a Bill to amend the Act passed by the Parliament of Canada, in the 23rd year of Her Majesty's reign, cap. $8. O' bonds and securities of public officers filed in the Proviucial Secretary's office in Also--A Bill to incorporate Waterloo as a RETURNS, Mr, WOOD presented the following rs-- k PETITIONS. (Wellingtor) presented the the Stauding Committee on Farmoay, to perform the duties both of the Court of Chancery and that of Error and Appeal, but this had been found impracticable, hence the increaso of £2,000 under this head, Mr. LAUDEK objected to the sum of $13,000 as allowances to the Superior Judges fi:nted by 33 Vic., cap,. 5, Ontario Statutes, . Blake had taken very strong: ground Mr, Blake had taken very ltrons ground against Ontarlo paying salaries as lowances o Dominion officers,. -- Afterthe disallowance of the old Act the one had been passed under which this money was allowed to be appro: Friated to the judges as Commissioners to consider appeals from the Crown Lands Ds partment and as judges of the Heir and De-- visee Court. Ho asked for an expression of opinion : from the Govemment' on'_ the U8 1 slar it _ BD.l.Ju@astksen ks qnesfl;n _as to whether the Province}was to continue paying the jadges, Mr., MOWAT sald that he found the sta-- . tute existing when he acceded to office; and it was one thing to question an Act at the time It was passed, and another to repeal an Act at a subsequent day, . The peo&le were anzious to secure the best talent for the high» est judicial offices, and it was therefore no-- cessary to pay the judges liberal salarles. It the additional $1,000 a year to each judge had not been paild, the Province would most probably not now have possessed the services of -- ary of the present judgos of the Court of Error and Appeal, 'Those judges had also acted as Cormmissioners of the Court of Hoirs and Dovisees, and had also acted on the work of consolidating the [ atatutes, If all the judges of the Provincos were to be accorded by the Dominion Gov-- | ernment simllar additional allowances to i those made by Ontario, the payment would nesas mava heavily on this Province than the those made by Ontario, the paymen's wWoOUid . press roore heavily on this Province than the payment of the allowance by the Legisia-- ture, Mr, MEREDITH asked if payment of ad. ditional mallowances to judges other than those of the Court of Error and Appeal was anthorised by the statute of 1869. Mr, MOWAT replied that, in effect, all the judges counld sit as judges of the Court of Error and Appeal. Mr. MEREDITH enquired if any appoints ment bad yet been miie to the position of Kegistrar of the Court of Appeal. Mr, MOWAT replied in the negative, Mr, MACDOUGALL thought that the judges of the smaller Provinces should not receive the same salaries as the judges in the same position in the larger Provinces, As the surplus of expenditure of the Domin-- lon was derived from Ontarlo, no saving would be effected by the Provinos in having the adaitionat payments made by the Ottawa Government,. _ The appoarance of the item for additional allowances in the estimates was a complete vindicatlion of the motion ol the Sandiield Macdonald Government in granting the increase to the judges' salarles. The item was passed. On ltem, $132,000 for criminal justics, Mr, CROOK S oxplained that the increased appropriation of $11,000 arose from the in-- crease of crime. 'The number of days' main« geapance of prisoners was 15,600 more than in |1874, whlcg caursed a much larger expendi-- | ture than formerly. The cost of transferring prisoners from gaols to penitentlaries was also larger than previounaly, The increase of $1,000 in Crown L'ounsai prosecutions was due to the grave character of many of the | cares coming before the Courts. _ An addi-- tional vote undor this general head would be | required to be taken in thesupplementary ea-- ' timates, | My. MOWAT sald the rule was that the wipplementary cstimates wonld include a0y extra expenditure required under this itena, Mr, MACDOUGALL (Simooe) sald thare was no doubt some fpcrease in crime, but he hoped there would not bae a necessity for the targe increase asked for, He thought local | taw yers. mich as the County Attorneys, ought f | to be able to perform the duties of Crown Coungel, instoad of friends of the Governa-- | ment being eimployed for the purpose. Mr. MOWAT polnted out that there had heen a gradval increase in the amount asked for under this bead, It bad always been the practice to appoint as Crown Counsel g.ntle-- men other than Coounty Attorneys. The judges had susgested that 1t was desirabla that the County Attormeys should not he the Crown Counsel. The ablest men at the Bar were in the habit of going to ull parts of the country to delead prisoners, and it was therefore necessary to bave abile men to conduct the Crown business. Besides that,{t was desirable that the Crown

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